Bandit on a Safari and I'm Hunting Unicorns

Bandit420 said:

Ethos Wrank R2. Egg sized nugs after drying and they smell like propane and butcher shop. Tastes like cleaning chemicals. Very potent. Strong entouroage effect of a warm bath. Medicinal grade

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Is this the one that was supposed to smell like roadkill? I've been MIA but I remember there was one strain i was wanting a follow-up on.

GrumpAzz said:

Is this the one that was supposed to smell like roadkill? I've been MIA but I remember there was one strain i was wanting a follow-up on.

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Yes Sir that's it!
That description is translation for an Afghani x Roadkill Skunk x Diesel hybrid that leans heavy on the indica side.
You can find an isolation or combo of these traits in many other cuts but I'd say this is one of the more uniform around with no pheno hunt or weird drama from pollen chucking. It's a legitimately bred R2 IMO.
She's a stable, hi potency & heavy yielding version of skunk & diesel ladies and with all the indica traits, very ez to extremely ez to grow. You'd have to really try to fuck it up to fail with her.



Taggin' and baggin day.

The private reserve stash. Steeltainer cold cure storage for this select bunch. Might pop it open around the 4th of July and sample some




Finally got around to upgrading my glass cleaning routine with a new sonic cleaner




Takes two quart bottles of Iso to fill 'er up but I can fit some pretty good size pieces in it




Sparkly clean again!!

Bandit420 said:

Yes Sir that's it!
That description is translation for an Afghani x Roadkill Skunk x Diesel hybrid that leans heavy on the indica side.
You can find an isolation or combo of these traits in many other cuts but I'd say this is one of the more uniform around with no pheno hunt or weird drama from pollen chucking. It's a legitimately bred R2 IMO.
She's a stable, hi potency & heavy yielding version of skunk & diesel ladies and with all the indica traits, very ez to extremely ez to grow. You'd have to really try to fuck it up to fail with her.

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Beautiful. I love a good rotten terp. I'm gonna have to grab a pack or two. Still searching for my 4-5 forever strain rotation. My all-star lineup, if you will. As of right now, the only pack I have saved for that project is Kitchen Sink by Cannarado. It was tough to track down, and pricey too.

Edit: i need a good Haze in that rotation as well. Like a Moonshine or Ghost Train. Any recommendations? This place in Aurora used to have a strain called Poison. It was a Neville's Wreck cross but I can't find it anywhere. I'd like to grow something like that.

GrumpAzz said:

Beautiful. I love a good rotten terp. I'm gonna have to grab a pack or two. Still searching for my 4-5 forever strain rotation. My all-star lineup, if you will. As of right now, the only pack I have saved for that project is Kitchen Sink by Cannarado. It was tough to track down, and pricey too.

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You'll like the Ethos.
I have not had a bad grow using their genetics.

GrumpAzz said:

Beautiful. I love a good rotten terp. I'm gonna have to grab a pack or two. Still searching for my 4-5 forever strain rotation. My all-star lineup, if you will. As of right now, the only pack I have saved for that project is Kitchen Sink by Cannarado. It was tough to track down, and pricey too.

Edit: i need a good Haze in that rotation as well. Like a Moonshine or Ghost Train. Any recommendations? This place in Aurora used to have a strain called Poison. It was a Neville's Wreck cross but I can't find it anywhere. I'd like to grow something like that.

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You're on the right track hunting something down from Neville.
Ghost Train has his stuff in it and it's legit. There's a black pepper terp w/ pink flowers pheno in there that's really nice.
"Poison" may be a cross with Durban Poison in it and that's another nice one. Super Silver Haze or Lemon Haze may be others you'd like.
Irie has some nice stuff I'd consider haze. His Ruby Waves I just hauled is a great example.

I'm currently trying out some Vietnamese stuff looking for the long rumored and legendary strain that has at times, made people hallucinate. They'll be haze.

Landrace seeds can bring you a good haze as well.

Couple things to forewarn or advise you about...They're hard to grow until you understand their nuances. Once you do it gets easier but they're still the most challenging so don't give up.
Growing haze is like hitting in baseball where if you get 3 of 10 to harvest from regular seed, you're a fucking all star bro.

Source your seeds from legitimate, well known breeders who have been around more than a minute. I'm seeing what looks like a lot of hemp in new genetics being passed off as cannabis. Buyer beware on the new stuff.

steamroller said:

You'll like the Ethos.
I have not had a bad grow using their genetics.

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They're on my keeper list. Spendy choice but good one.




Long delayed and overdue upcan day today.

I wanted to stick the Vietnamese 3ways into 5g airpots but this is what I got when I ordered them from Amazon....





Yeah, counterfeit AF!
First of all...Airpots are made in Scotland
I mean...it is kinda funny I'd have to incorporate basket weaving skills to put them together but holy fuck balls what a fail these are.
And they even stink??!! Smells like the waste dump at Dow chemical or something. If I left them on a street corner, I'm pretty sure a junkie would pick them and start huffing them to get high.
So yeah, they're going back for a refund.
The sad thing is there's probably a grower or two out there thinking airpots suck because they think these are them.

Anyways....lol....

Bandit420 said:

You're on the right track hunting something down from Neville.
Ghost Train has his stuff in it and it's legit. There's a black pepper terp w/ pink flowers pheno in there that's really nice.
"Poison" may be a cross with Durban Poison in it and that's another nice one. Super Silver Haze or Lemon Haze may be others you'd like.
Irie has some nice stuff I'd consider haze. His Ruby Waves I just hauled is a great example.

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I want to say it was Neville's Haze Crossed with Durban. Just Durban. Not sure if that's even a thing but I faintly remember that being what the ID card said. Maybe I can hit up the dispensary and get some more info.

Ghost Train and Mooshine had a very similar smell/taste to the Poison I'm after, but muted somewhat. The Poison was just so strong. It was the dispensary's star sativa strain for a while.

Bandit420 said:

I'm currently trying out some Vietnamese stuff looking for the long rumored and legendary strain that has at times, made people hallucinate. They'll be haze.

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That would be intense like some special occasion buds.

Bandit420 said:

Couple things to forewarn or advise you about...They're hard to grow until you understand their nuances. Once you do it gets easier but they're still the most challenging so don't give up.
Growing haze is like hitting in baseball where if you get 3 of 10 to harvest from regular seed, you're a fucking all star bro.

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Say you find a keeper... would this also mean a mother would be harder to keep alive? Maybe clone her more often to keep that sativa growth in check?

Bandit420 said:

Source your seeds from legitimate, well known breeders who have been around more than a minute. I'm seeing what looks like a lot of hemp in new genetics being passed off as cannabis. Buyer beware on the new stuff.

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Old Sog has some good Haze beans, right? I'm pretty sure I saw several on his website at one point.

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Good Luck with the landrace. Those strains are ancient. Like smoking what the cavemen smoked. Back to our roots

GrumpAzz said:

I want to say it was Neville's Haze Crossed with Durban. Just Durban. Not sure if that's even a thing but I faintly remember that being what the ID card said. Maybe I can hit up the dispensary and get some more info.

Ghost Train and Mooshine had a very similar smell/taste to the Poison I'm after, but muted somewhat. The Poison was just so strong. It was the dispensary's star sativa strain for a while.


That would be intense like some special occasion buds.


Say you find a keeper... would this also mean a mother would be harder to keep alive? Maybe clone her more often to keep that sativa growth in check?


Old Sog has some good Haze beans, right? I'm pretty sure I saw several on his website at one point.

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Good Luck with the landrace. Those strains are ancient. Like smoking what the cavemen smoked. Back to our roots

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Yes Old SOG is a great source! Super Silver Haze came from him.
You may also want to browse seed sites in the UK. Attitude and Seedsman at the forefront there. Nirvana seeds has a terrific haze in Chocolope.
The reason I say go overseas is because over here stateside everything is very heavy into cookies and candy which are reincarnations of diesels, chems, and OG Kush variants so there's not much haze being bred here aside from some heirloom stuff and the old school unfucked haze that hasn't been in the hands of pollen chuckers is still the best around. That stuff came from the Netherlands to begin with since they were legal all that time so might as well go to the source and not chance a deal with any fakes over here.

A mother can be kept indefinitely. The Shoreline707 mum is still alive and well living down in Houston last I heard and I think she was germinated around 2010-2011.
You can also take clones of clones and keep the line going that way.
In keeping a mum, I'd get well acquainted with bonsai techniques to keep her small until you need cuttings otherwise you're maintaining a tree

Settling in.
Shaped and sculpted so no baby plant stuff remains and most growth older than a week trimmed away to guide the new wanted shoots.
With all the fresh shoots and those roots systems ready to go...These plants should explode.
Friday they get flipped and on Sunday they get a pyrethrin bomb to take out any hitchhikers.
Lights at 30% and 50%, tables at max height.
Working with temps in the 90s and not flinching about it
The wonky plants? Greenpoint . Need I say more?






I got action in the backyard!




Cayenne pepper in copious amount sprinkled around my tubs seems to be keeping the squirrels out so far






Many thanks to @Driver77 for him showing off the Fruity Freak and hooking up the forum with a good coupon code to Hi Elevation.
Everything he said would happen did and then some. He's damn good people in my book

wow man your thread is just zooming by!!!! who needs noveg when you have turnover this quick!!!!

that is a badass megasonic cleaner man!!! does it have or do you use a degassing mode? where the unit pulses on and off every couple seconds mine has one and i have to tell if it's better or not. you mentioned it taking a lot of volume, i'm sure you reuse your IPA between cleanings to reduce waste but i found that if i only have something small to clean i can put it in a small sealed jar with IPA and then just put water in the cleaner then put the jar of ipa in the water. it transfers the vibrations into the IPA jar and still cleans the parts.

roots look awesome man... at first i thought the T was for rooTrimmer!!! hahaha i've seen those put together airpot knockoffs online, wondering if they hold the round shape or just become oval.

and wow you're getting maters already!! today marks the calendar day where its officially safe for us to put plants outside. haven't even started a garden yet and you already have fruit!!!!!

see you got your fruity freaks already... mine just shipped yesterday so i won't see em for a few days yet, theyre still in oregon.

and in case you didn't vote for all stars the code is: 2025ASVOTE . somehow i got 49 points for the powerball this week.. i thought 49 was a weird amount, i don't ask i just collect the points!! haha i wonder if they'll let us collect for a trivia tomorrow since we got hooked up yesterday, last week it would only let me collect it once for the week.

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so you mention putting that bud away for a while till it cures and having it for a special smoke... i do this as well and i'm pretty sure a lot of us here do. we talk of having stash from grows ago and don't need the new harvest... well last week i was looking downstairs and i have more stashed away than i thought.. it's well over five pounds from look of it. i gotta do something with it.. i was thinking of maybe just buying a new washing machine and making a big run of bubble hash with it all. it's been curing too long for pressing, plus would take way too long to press it all out. i've been tossing the idea around of giving to a local extraction place i know somebody works at and have them turn it all into distillate?

just curios what do you guys ever plan to do with your stash's?

Stoneyluv said:

just curios what do you guys ever plan to do with your stash's?

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I've been considering charity~!
Just kidding but in the same boat as you.
I got more than I need at this point with 20 in the room~!

steamroller said:

I've been considering charity~!
Just kidding but in the same boat as you.
I got more than I need at this point with 20 in the room~!

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i've even run out of friends to give it to... the few that used to take the bulk of it all now grow themselves from watching me enjoy the hobby and are now hooked themselves.

i'm tempted to grind it all up and decarb it out.

oh Bandit something else i wanted to tell ya.. that place i've been getting that good coffee from in Beachwalkers thread also sells tea. they sent me an email yesterday to get a sample pack of their spring teas.. thought maybe you'd like to try them out, the sample packs makes 27 cups of tea for $14....

Bandit420 said:

there's not much haze being bred here aside from some heirloom stuff

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Is that because of the longer flower times and the push for profits in the American Market?

Fuckin' wusses.. Just put out a solid product and you'll make money.. damn

Stoneyluv said:

it's well over five pounds from look of it. i gotta do something with it

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I know something you could do with it...

Bandit420 said:

Settling in.
Shaped and sculpted so no baby plant stuff remains and most growth older than a week trimmed away to guide the new wanted shoots.
With all the fresh shoots and those roots systems ready to go...These plants should explode.
Friday they get flipped and on Sunday they get a pyrethrin bomb to take out any hitchhikers.
Lights at 30% and 50%, tables at max height.
Working with temps in the 90s and not flinching about it
The wonky plants? Greenpoint . Need I say more?

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I got action in the backyard!

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Cayenne pepper in copious amount sprinkled around my tubs seems to be keeping the squirrels out so far

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Many thanks to @Driver77 for him showing off the Fruity Freak and hooking up the forum with a good coupon code to Hi Elevation.
Everything he said would happen did and then some. He's damn good people in my book

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Looking forward to seeing your Freak grows!
I've grown the cross(GCF) in the freebie and it was crazy good...frosty solid nugs with a strong energetic sativa kick. Crossed with a haze should be nice.
Between the 2 you should be able to scratch your sativa itch for a good long time!

Stoneyluv said:

wow man your thread is just zooming by!!!! who needs noveg when you have turnover this quick!!!!

that is a badass megasonic cleaner man!!! does it have or do you use a degassing mode? where the unit pulses on and off every couple seconds mine has one and i have to tell if it's better or not. you mentioned it taking a lot of volume, i'm sure you reuse your IPA between cleanings to reduce waste but i found that if i only have something small to clean i can put it in a small sealed jar with IPA and then just put water in the cleaner then put the jar of ipa in the water. it transfers the vibrations into the IPA jar and still cleans the parts.

roots look awesome man... at first i thought the T was for rooTrimmer!!! hahaha i've seen those put together airpot knockoffs online, wondering if they hold the round shape or just become oval.

and wow you're getting maters already!! today marks the calendar day where its officially safe for us to put plants outside. haven't even started a garden yet and you already have fruit!!!!!

see you got your fruity freaks already... mine just shipped yesterday so i won't see em for a few days yet, theyre still in oregon.

and in case you didn't vote for all stars the code is: 2025ASVOTE . somehow i got 49 points for the powerball this week.. i thought 49 was a weird amount, i don't ask i just collect the points!! haha i wonder if they'll let us collect for a trivia tomorrow since we got hooked up yesterday, last week it would only let me collect it once for the week.

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so you mention putting that bud away for a while till it cures and having it for a special smoke... i do this as well and i'm pretty sure a lot of us here do. we talk of having stash from grows ago and don't need the new harvest... well last week i was looking downstairs and i have more stashed away than i thought.. it's well over five pounds from look of it. i gotta do something with it.. i was thinking of maybe just buying a new washing machine and making a big run of bubble hash with it all. it's been curing too long for pressing, plus would take way too long to press it all out. i've been tossing the idea around of giving to a local extraction place i know somebody works at and have them turn it all into distillate?

just curios what do you guys ever plan to do with your stash's?

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Yeah and this is me in slow motion and delayed. Tellin' Y'all...If I wanted to..1lb every 80 days with the tent now. Only thing holding that back is I don't need that much weed and it would be costly in material and utilities but very possible. It's nice to be able to outkick your coverage

Yeah funny you brought up old weed.
When I was cleaning up my steeltainers because I forgot to order more groves, one container was still full and labeled "More Cowbell"
How long has it been since we grew that??!!
It was brown and ugly but smelled like hash. Young me woulda smoked it. Old me tossed it in the compost.
I experiment a ton with weed so I waste a lot. If I have stuff that ages out I'll bag it up and leave it where I know a homeless person will find it.
It's one of the main reason why I focus so much on colas. I smoke colas and treat them like prized treasure so they never get wasted and are usually smoked within 3-9 months of harvest.

The new sonic cleaner has none of that fancy stuff man. Even a drain valve would be nice but it's bare bones.
It gets warm and buzzes.
IDK what sort of weird Chinese gobboldygook deal there is on the temp display. I'm pretty sure it's not 3000*F and more like around 90 but it does a great job.
I do one of two things with the iso...Use it until it's so brown and gross I dump it down the toilet or actually try to strain it thru a coffee filter and reclaim it. That just depends on what I've cleaned and how dirty the iso gets.
Overall, I'd say 1 quart of iso gives me a month worth of cleaning.
I'm also using 70% iso I buy in bulk at Costco. I'm not sure but I don't think it's very flammable at all so I don't worry about fumes or anything.

I'm still super late on veggies but I think there's still time to get some peppers and melons going. Maybe some squash too.
Will drop seeds for that today and also drop the freakshow.

Have another idea about the VG I think you'll like. Gonna test it out today. I want to see if I can use newspaper. Either completely replace the paper towel or a single layer over the paper towel.
I want to see how well it wicks up water. If it can wick then it can replace paper towel but if it don't wick too well then just use it as a surface layer over the paper towel.
I'm doing this to slicken up the channel. You were saying when they fishbone they can grab the paper so I'm thinking newsprint would possibly fix that. Newsprint works great for making paper pots, biodegradable, plant friendly...Just makes sense.
I can't fix user error when it comes to that thing but I can address some things and figure them out. Grabby roots is one I think I can cure with a little thought and innovation.

Yeah I grabbed up my all star points! No fantasy points this week though. Fuckers.
I need to hit big on the pwerball. Like a fatty 500 or something would be nice.

steamroller said:

I've been considering charity~!
Just kidding but in the same boat as you.
I got more than I need at this point with 20 in the room~!

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And here I am feeling like I'm herding cats growing 13
I did want 17 though so at least I have that going for me. I think?

Stoneyluv said:

i've even run out of friends to give it to... the few that used to take the bulk of it all now grow themselves from watching me enjoy the hobby and are now hooked themselves.

i'm tempted to grind it all up and decarb it out.

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That's a real good idea there!
What about decarbing and processing it into a sauce or cooking oil?
I also like the idea of handing it off to a commercial extractor then using that distillate for edibles.

Stoneyluv said:

oh Bandit something else i wanted to tell ya.. that place i've been getting that good coffee from in Beachwalkers thread also sells tea. they sent me an email yesterday to get a sample pack of their spring teas.. thought maybe you'd like to try them out, the sample packs makes 27 cups of tea for $14....

Spring teas Gift Sampler

The birds are chirping, the winds are blowing, and the flowers are coming back to life. Spring is in the air and with it our collection of Spring teas to help you embrace the enchantment of the season

www.adagio.com

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You know this post was supposed to be done last night but I went down a rabbit hole looking at tea for two hours thanks to you.
I'm gonna order some of those fruit teas for Summer.
That's all I drink is tea, hot or cold. Well bottled spring water too.
Cold, I mix with fruit juice or hibiscus fresca juice and warm just honey and lemon.
Their fruit flavors are super unique and tantalizing to me. Plus I have my mint plant taking off ready to garnish some tall glasses of iced tea!

GrumpAzz said:

Is that because of the longer flower times and the push for profits in the American Market?

Fuckin' wusses.. Just put out a solid product and you'll make money.. damn


I know something you could do with it...

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Growing sativa haze for the most part is best left to outdoor legal state grow ops so that almost limits it's work to being in Oregon and California where they have the climate for it.
Most other states and countries go indoors with commercial operations and these plants don't fit well unless you get radical with the training and a controlled short veg period.
They were born to grow as big as a SUV so it's hard for many to tame a beast that should be that big into something manageable indoors.

The greatest challenge may be in how they feed, drink, and take in light.
They guzzle water like a fish. They constantly eat but not heavy feeders so it's ez to burn them up. Like a low dose steady IV drip of food is ideal and not a heavy feed/pure water routine.
They have massive rootballs I don't think ever stop growing even after chop so outdoors in a 100 gallon grow bag is common.
They're suicidal when it comes to light. Stretching as much as possible in an act of almost trying to eat a light only to burn itself on the heat of the light.
Compare all that to an indica that only grows to about 3-4' tall in a 5 gallon bucket and is as ez to care for as a goldfish then you can kinda see why a cash cropper would go that easier route especially if your growers are just basic hired hands to work a water hose and do some trim work.

Driver77 said:

Looking forward to seeing your Freak grows!
I've grown the cross(GCF) in the freebie and it was crazy good...frosty solid nugs with a strong energetic sativa kick. Crossed with a haze should be nice.
Between the 2 you should be able to scratch your sativa itch for a good long time!

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Thanks Buddy! I'm excited on all levels from getting to see how they grow up close and in person to enjoying that harvest!

So I'm looking on Ethos' website...

Would you go with:
Wrank S1
or
Wrank R2

Hell.. the Wrank multipack could have some killer crosses.

GrumpAzz said:

So I'm looking on Ethos' website...

Would you go with:
Wrank S1
or
Wrank R2

Hell.. the Wrank multipack could have some killer crosses.

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The multi pack does look like a lot of fun!
Usually 3-4 plants of any strain is good for me for a while then circle back later if there was a keeper. Dropping a multipack of similar crosses might find what ya like. It looks like there's near pure indica and 50/50 hybrid in that group.
I have nothing but good things to say about Wrank R2 as well. That's one where I may not want to grow it again soon because I have a huge stash of it for now, but it's one where I know if I want a wickedly baddass and nasty potent indica I know where to look first.
I think next on my Ethos list will be Samo 78 but I like the Lilac Diesel multipack option too. Maybe they both make the cart.
I'm also happy with my two Planet of the Grapes plants right now so I kinda see a space for Ethos in my room when I need some good stable fem stuff.
I'm also having my first dance with Equilibrium Genetics and all I can say so far is .They're worth a browse because there's some crazy shit in their catalog. They have some stuff from Ethiopia and the South Pacific I wanna give a run as well as heirlooms.

Awesome. Thanks. I'll figure it out and likely make a decision this evening. Nothing to do on nightshift but shop for seeds

Didn't @steamroller have good things to say about Planet of the Grapes?

My Dalato run had a bit of a Lilac profile. Probably won't be running those again any time soon though.

I'll check out those other guys too. Can't have too many beans if you ask me. Never know when they'll close up shop and stop letting us buy them so we may as well sit on a stockpile, eh?

I'd like to assume we'll always have access to seeds but I'm not super confident. Motherfuckers banning PORN... I can see another push for cannabis prohibition in our future.

Damn.. this sounds awesome and they'll ship it to me which is sweet.


Old-school genetic makeup.

Question:
Let's say my next round is to be clones, but I only want to order one clone from these dudes. When, in my grow cycle, should I place the order if I planned to take clones of this clone for my run?
Like... say I wanted 4 clones of this clone ready at harvest. How long would it take to establish their clone well enough to take clones from it?

GrumpAzz said:

Damn.. this sounds awesome and they'll ship it to me which is sweet.
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Old-school genetic makeup.

Question:
Let's say my next round is to be clones, but I only want to order one clone from these dudes. When, in my grow cycle, should I place the order if I planned to take clones of this clone for my run?
Like... say I wanted 4 clones of this clone ready at harvest. How long would it take to establish their clone well enough to take clones from it?

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If I bought a clone I'd want my grow op cleared and ready to receive. I'd want it so that clone got my undivided attention and I'd pamper it.
It would probably take close to a month after getting it before it could give up some clones but that depends really.
Like you could probably get the first clone within a week or maybe two. But if you wait and top & train the plant and direct growth as if it's a mother, then in about 4-6 weeks she'll have maybe up to a dozen clones to take at one time. Basically every three nodes off a branch has a chance to be another plant by cloning.
The first thing though is get her established then when the time comes, top her early to promote branching. You might stall vertical growth today but you'll promote 4x lateral growth tomorrow

Thanks Bandit. If I go that route, I'll be hitting you up for some pointers.

$45 seems cheap for a clone of some fire.. maybe I'll hold off on some seed purchases and just do 4 clones when the time comes.

They've got some fire clones from the looks of it. Gary Peyton, Permanent Marker, GG4, Lemon Cherry Gelato...

Thanks for the info man. I'm sure I'll be sending them some money in the future.