Stoney grows Honey Fried Bananas in RDWC SCROG

Stoney's pro tip of the day...

take an old hex nut driver that ya have laying around, cut a couple slots in er and stick a magnet in the bottom, and then you can put in eye hooks like a champ!!!!

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My kit of different screw gun bits/heads actually came with a bit that does this. Works for a few different styles including the thumb screw and butterfly. IMG_6765.jpeg

A much older kit had one similar but it’s disappeared.
 
My kit of different screw gun bits/heads actually came with a bit that does this. Works for a few different styles including the thumb screw and butterfly. View attachment 115518

A much older kit had one similar but it’s disappeared.

yea, mines better.. one because it's mine!! haha two because that doesn't even have a quick change so it can't be used in a driver... bet it do't even have a magnet in it!! hahahahahaha'

i'm just fuckin wit ya man!!!!!!!!

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end of week one of flowering....

turned the lights up another 10% on the red and white, only 5% more on the blue. this will be the highest the blue goes until finishing time...

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the PPMs are holding steady at 450.. been three or four days now.. i expect it to slowly drop a little, the uppers are only at 420ppm so all top off is a little light. the ph doser is still working a little to keep the ph up so i'll let the top off lower it some more but it's way better than it was and going in the correct direction.

i bailed on filling the three squares.. i went for quality over quantity.. they looked like were gonna be behind everything else so i readjust a few of them and will live with empty spots... i mean there's no denying that they look better this way than horizontal and should produce some nice buds!!!

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just a little in the middle yet. hoping some of these smaller ones are grow'ers and not show'ers!!!

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thats about it for now.... Thanks for lookin in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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yeah it happens to the best of em.....

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i know you said you like to watch a lot of older races, have you ever heard DW sing that loose wheel song? omg he's suck a goofball!!!! hahaha




hell i say that almost every week to the TV!!!!!!!

Max, i need ya to root for your boy SVG this sunday... i need a win from the 88 team this week!!!!!!!!!!!

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Haha..I’m rooting for him..how’d he go anyway.ill b getting a new tv soon so I’ll b getting some pay per view stations..can’t wait actually…
 
Haha..I’m rooting for him..how’d he go anyway.ill b getting a new tv soon so I’ll b getting some pay per view stations..can’t wait actually…

he does incredible on the road courses, nobody can beat unless he beats himself. he won his fifth of the season today. the 5 team was giving it everything they had and he was still a tenth better a lap.

if he could improve his oval game and short track races he could be dangerous. but with road races a minority it would be very tough for him to win a championship in nascar if he doesn't get better at the intermediate tracks.

i'll take the win today for our office race pool thats for sure!!!!!!

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so tonight i did something i should have done last sunday... i kinda wasted an entire week of rapid growth that could have been all vertical above the screen but they wasted a bunch of energy growing all the stuff i just cut out of there tonight.. better late than never but next time i gotta be on it quicker.. Granny warned me!!!!!!!!

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something else i did.... maybe corny maybe cool don't know but it was fun so i did it...

i cut a window out for the back wall that was all white.... ya know a window for plants to look out of!!!!! hahahaha


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i was hoping it was bigger but it was the biggest i could find the shark in all the big ones seemed to be scenery.

have a great week everybody!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
he does incredible on the road courses, nobody can beat unless he beats himself. he won his fifth of the season today. the 5 team was giving it everything they had and he was still a tenth better a lap.

if he could improve his oval game and short track races he could be dangerous. but with road races a minority it would be very tough for him to win a championship in nascar if he doesn't get better at the intermediate tracks.

i'll take the win today for our office race pool thats for sure!!!!!!

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so tonight i did something i should have done last sunday... i kinda wasted an entire week of rapid growth that could have been all vertical above the screen but they wasted a bunch of energy growing all the stuff i just cut out of there tonight.. better late than never but next time i gotta be on it quicker.. Granny warned me!!!!!!!!

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something else i did.... maybe corny maybe cool don't know but it was fun so i did it...

i cut a window out for the back wall that was all white.... ya know a window for plants to look out of!!!!! hahahaha


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i was hoping it was bigger but it was the biggest i could find the shark in all the big ones seemed to be scenery.

have a great week everybody!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He will get better at it but like you said he is a champion touring car driver.up amongst the best we have had and we have many great champion supercar drivers..I tell you if any of those oval races gets a little slippery “watch out” he drives like a man possessed in the wet..
 
He will get better at it but like you said he is a champion touring car driver.up amongst the best we have had and we have many great champion supercar drivers..I tell you if any of those oval races gets a little slippery “watch out” he drives like a man possessed in the wet..

they'll put rain tires on a road course but never an oval... i so wish they would!! they put dirt down at bristol but they won't race in the rain?!?! C'mon!!!!! hahaha

vegas on sunday!!! only four more races left this season!!!!!!!!
 

end of week two of 12/12...

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a shout out to my fellow SCROG'rs... y'all put in work!!!!! like pimpin ain't ez yo!!!!!

i'm still a day late and a dollar short!!! defol day...

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i also installed a carbon filter... ACI refillable.

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i put the intake vent right where i made the mistake when i drew out the hydro system... what mistake??? hehehehe

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got more artwork......

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thanks for lookin in everybody!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
the good, the bad, and the ugly...

so the good...

flowering, buds starting, not the biggest but we're making it happen...

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the Bad....

the smaller plant can't decide if she's a boy or girl.. this is going to make it so much fun for harvest times and not being done...


speaking of done... i am so done with two plants from different seeds in this system forever...

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and the ugly... nah just foolin, no ugly here.. instead of ugy i'll give ya the boring details so far....

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Hey bud...where's the year stamp on those 550s bro?
There's a couple on ebay I was looking at

they're right next to where the communication ports are...

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the newer versions are just a thin white tag and the older models are brown...

i have a 2020, a 2018, and two 2017's...

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the two older ones are still kickin ass.... osram baby!!!

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That green on the bottom is crazy man.
Hop the other hurry up for ya...👊

i can already tell it's gonna be behind... i ain't waiting.. i've already decided that.

Dang. Is she hermin'?

man i wasn't even thinking that bad... i just thought she was super late to the game.. i'll keep my eyes peeled though... freakin better not be!!! it won't end well for the plant i can say this...

i've gona a little evil on plants in the past... (with audio)


 
the good, the bad, and the ugly...

so the good...

flowering, buds starting, not the biggest but we're making it happen...

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the Bad....

the smaller plant can't decide if she's a boy or girl.. this is going to make it so much fun for harvest times and not being done...


speaking of done... i am so done with two plants from different seeds in this system forever...

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and the ugly... nah just foolin, no ugly here.. instead of ugy i'll give ya the boring details so far....

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Watched that movie last nite.ol Clitty Eastwood.
well one thing havin a gal flower late is she sure will b a stacker and have more budz to toke 😁
 
Holy shit.....FLASH BACK!!!!!......

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man i saw lots of old ass videos looking for those..

i miss the shinin... i need to make a batch one day.. i was cleaning up downstairs tonight and moved a couple gallons in jugs, i never drink it i just like making it!!


Watched that movie last nite.ol Clitty Eastwood.
well one thing havin a gal flower late is she sure will b a stacker and have more budz to toke 😁

man that song is so damn iconic.. that song could never be reused for anything else...


What year did the 550 change/update? There diodes...?? Is that the right words....😁

so out of my four lights three of them are different from each other..

my 2017's are identical to each other. they look similar to this layout diode wise and the white diodes are a "soft" white looking. appear to be 2700k or less to me...

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my 2018 model has the same diode layout but the white diodes are a much higher Kelvin, like a 5000k looking light. the software seems to be the same though. meaning that if you put on all blue, it's all blue..

now the 2019 model is when everything changed. completely different diode style and layout 2019 and newer have COB diodes for the white and an even higher K, my guess is around 6500K, "daylight" style and also have a little bit different software and act a bit different from each other even connected to the same controller.

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update time....

now mid bloom so i mixed up some mid bloom nutes and tonight is change out time..

a little pour porn for y'all... turn the volume up loud if ya have to pee!!! hahaha


here we have a before shot...

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and now an after...

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yup!!! it's like that... i made the executive decision and she's gone!!! she was a month behind the other plant and completely full of leaves, there wasn't really any space for buds anyway from all the leaves!! and there is no way i was gonna wait an extra month after i harvest the left side.. so the nute stealer is out and and now i'll get to see the true numbers of the one plant drinking and eating with no variables.. i think this move will help me learn better anyway.

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so rest in peace HFB... ending root shot... and yes, i took a bite!!!! hahaha

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my new solution is:

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i kept it right at 420ppm it's where they liked it the best but we'll see if anything changes since the "sensitive" is now gone.

i mixed up enough for the rez change and about five or six gallons left over so see how she likes it and i can make changes soon if needed for the top off.

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Have a great weekend everybody!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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a little pour porn for y'all... turn the volume up loud if ya have to pee!!! hahaha
It seems to be working for you, but I was always told to dilute the nute before adding it to the solution. I usually do 4:1 water to nutes

ending root shot... and yes, i took a bite!!!! hahaha
Hell yea!!
 
Adding nutrient to a resevoir like that video?

Should be fine, imo.
Moe explained it to me and I ran a little experiment at the time.

You can take a cup of your solution and, if pour something in at full sgrength, you can actually see some of it precipitate out and fall to the bottom.

I tried it with pH Down, though, so maybe that's what he referenced. Not the nutes but the adjusters?
 
Strong Sharknado vibes up in here!

On the plant you pulled...was it an equal and just slow developing or started later? Sorry for not following too close but it's got me thinking about my own situation and runts.
So I have two strains. Nine plants total and three runts in the nine from both strains.
I kept the runts up front so I could baby them and protect them from being choked out.
They snap out of being runts for the most part and do their thing.
Now here we are in full bloom and the slow aspect of being runts has never left them. If I didn't know they were all started at the same time I'd believe the4 runts were started 3 weeks after the others because they're about 2-3 weeks behind in bloom.
It has me wondering if it was worth it to keep them?
Sure I'll get weed out of them but would I have gotten more weed from the other by giving up the space the runts used to other larger plants?
It's just something I'm at a crossroads here and seeing you take out a plant has me leaning more and more to less is more and not hanging onto runts or anything else that's slower than the main crop.
There's a greed there for sure...more plants = more weed. A thing where it's just too hard to kill a perfectly good fem plant even if it is slow and small. Some runts do produce great weed.
But IDK man....I'm really getting to the point of culling runts or anything that can't keep up with the peloton. I'll end up chopping my main crop then waiting two weeks for the runts to finish pretty much delaying the next crop and it's all for maybe 4-5oz, if that.
 
Strong Sharknado vibes up in here!

On the plant you pulled...was it an equal and just slow developing or started later? Sorry for not following too close but it's got me thinking about my own situation and runts.
So I have two strains. Nine plants total and three runts in the nine from both strains.
I kept the runts up front so I could baby them and protect them from being choked out.
They snap out of being runts for the most part and do their thing.
Now here we are in full bloom and the slow aspect of being runts has never left them. If I didn't know they were all started at the same time I'd believe the4 runts were started 3 weeks after the others because they're about 2-3 weeks behind in bloom.
It has me wondering if it was worth it to keep them?
Sure I'll get weed out of them but would I have gotten more weed from the other by giving up the space the runts used to other larger plants?
It's just something I'm at a crossroads here and seeing you take out a plant has me leaning more and more to less is more and not hanging onto runts or anything else that's slower than the main crop.
There's a greed there for sure...more plants = more weed. A thing where it's just too hard to kill a perfectly good fem plant even if it is slow and small. Some runts do produce great weed.
But IDK man....I'm really getting to the point of culling runts or anything that can't keep up with the peloton. I'll end up chopping my main crop then waiting two weeks for the runts to finish pretty much delaying the next crop and it's all for maybe 4-5oz, if that.
Dealing with a runt myself. Kind of wish it didn’t make it as it looks two weeks behind the rest.

Another issue is one strain is looking perfectly healthy while the other strain looks like an N deficiency.
 
But IDK man....I'm really getting to the point of culling runts or anything that can't keep up with the peloton. I'll end up chopping my main crop then waiting two weeks for the runts to finish pretty much delaying the next crop and it's all for maybe 4-5oz, if that.
Here's my anecdotal evidence from my Guzzlers run.

4 seeds same strain.
Front left plant was the runt...
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...but then she exploded in flower.
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Highest yielder in the tent and was the closest to being finished, but I chopped early.

I say seeds are like a box of chocolates...

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Runt is the front right. It was behind from the get-go. Lapped the others in flower.
 
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Here's my anecdotal evidence from my Guzzlers run.

4 seeds same strain.
Front left plant was the runt...
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...but then she exploded in flower.
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Highest yielder in the tent and was the closest to being finished, but I chopped early.

I say seeds are like a box of chocolates...

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Runt is the front right. It was behind from the get-go. Lapped the others in flower.

That's what makes the choice hard is that some do perform.
I think there's signs though maybe...Like indicas that stack nodes on top of each other early and almost self top.
I clean up a lot on those and it works yes but not so sure it's worth it to keep those plants when real estate is tight
 
It seems to be working for you, but I was always told to dilute the nute before adding it to the solution. I usually do 4:1 water to nutes

no, i was never told that.. kinda glad i never had an issue. i do use my my stirring stick before i add each one...

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Hell yea!!

they were good at first, like you say a sprout flavor and then it got real bitter on the back end like an over ripe dandelion. i'd be curious as to what the sugar content is, i'd like to try and make moonshine from ganga roots!!

Adding nutrient to a resevoir like that video?

Should be fine, imo.

i've never had an issue thus far. the floranova stained it a little but even that suff mixed up well.

Moe explained it to me and I ran a little experiment at the time.

You can take a cup of your solution and, if pour something in at full sgrength, you can actually see some of it precipitate out and fall to the bottom.

I tried it with pH Down, though, so maybe that's what he referenced. Not the nutes but the adjusters?

could that have been his video where he shows how a very high ph causes some of the micros to precipitate out? i believe he told me it was mostly the heavy metals that would separate like iron.


Strong Sharknado vibes up in here!

On the plant you pulled...was it an equal and just slow developing or started later? Sorry for not following too close but it's got me thinking about my own situation and runts.
So I have two strains. Nine plants total and three runts in the nine from both strains.
I kept the runts up front so I could baby them and protect them from being choked out.
They snap out of being runts for the most part and do their thing.
Now here we are in full bloom and the slow aspect of being runts has never left them. If I didn't know they were all started at the same time I'd believe the4 runts were started 3 weeks after the others because they're about 2-3 weeks behind in bloom.
It has me wondering if it was worth it to keep them?
Sure I'll get weed out of them but would I have gotten more weed from the other by giving up the space the runts used to other larger plants?
It's just something I'm at a crossroads here and seeing you take out a plant has me leaning more and more to less is more and not hanging onto runts or anything else that's slower than the main crop.
There's a greed there for sure...more plants = more weed. A thing where it's just too hard to kill a perfectly good fem plant even if it is slow and small. Some runts do produce great weed.
But IDK man....I'm really getting to the point of culling runts or anything that can't keep up with the peloton. I'll end up chopping my main crop then waiting two weeks for the runts to finish pretty much delaying the next crop and it's all for maybe 4-5oz, if that.

i'm not even sure "runt" is the correct term the way i'm using it. these plants were definitely smaller and took longer than other plants to get to the same size and grew smaller right from the very start.

these two plants were started as seeds on June 12th. they were started in a group of 18 total plants, three of each strain. after a few weeks when it was time to upcan these two did not make the cut, just smaller and under developed compared to the other 16.

so on august 12th they went into the hydro system, eight weeks since dry seed. on sept 27th they were flipped. the plant on the left started spitting pistils and flowering normal speed, again the plant was small so were the buds..

that other plant on the right just started showing pistils now.. three weeks after the left side plant did. i'm just not waiting that long for it, it never gonna be a record size breaker so i cut my loses sooner than later.

these plants were only going in for a test to see if my poison issue was gone and they passed. i should have started over way back on august 12th. keeping them going kinda fast forwarded my learning lesson though so i kept going just to learn. now i'm in so far and deep i gotta keep something going. by removing the other plant i will be saving on nutes and electricity because i was able to turn off the one 550.. so i'm flowering this plant from just one light. that might cut into my final yield as well but i'm good with it.

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my new furnace arrives soon so once i get that all in place and i know what space i have to work with i'm going to either build a veg cabinet or use a tent. prolly a tent cuz it's quick and free! i honestly wouldn't mind dipping back into perpetual. i kinda like the one at a time versus the mono crop. it changed the way i feed and use the lights but lets be honest here, i never was good at the feeding schedule thing and i really don't believe adjusting my spectrum does anything at all.

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so man what do ya say, are ya gonna take it easy on me in the race pool this very last weekend? how can i root for the 5 when you got him in the pool!!!

i think Reddick needs to finish 23rd or better to cancel out any bonus scenarios you could possibly get to beat me no mater what happens.

i gotta start looking for a new avatar, sad it's the last race of the season!!! i'm super excited for all the teams though man, this is what they worked hard for all year. the 5-11-19-24 get to lay it all out there for one last race and crown a king!!!! i mean no other sport does it like that!!

i hope it's a great race with great weather and may the best team win, unless it's the 11!!!! hahaha

C'mon # ;lar!!!!!!!! go go go!!!!!!

Dealing with a runt myself. Kind of wish it didn’t make it as it looks two weeks behind the rest.

Another issue is one strain is looking perfectly healthy while the other strain looks like an N deficiency.

the difference in strength they wanted was also was giving me slight issue and i knew it would be even more amplified when the other one would quit eating and drinking, and then how do i even do a flush on time?? pull one without a flush, flush em both and let one run out nuteless for three weeks or more? screw that... "yanked"

what the fuck is a frush??


Here's my anecdotal evidence from my Guzzlers run.

4 seeds same strain.
Front left plant was the runt...
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...but then she exploded in flower.
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Highest yielder in the tent and was the closest to being finished, but I chopped early.

I say seeds are like a box of chocolates...

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Runt is the front right. It was behind from the get-go. Lapped the others in flower.

these two were the front left two in this pic.. all the other plants had been topped and pruned already and these were just lagging in every way. the hydro was a test but then they kinda bushed out pretty quick so i thought maybe i was out of the woods and honestly if the rigt plant would have been at the same speed i would have kept it, it wasn't a size thing at all, it was a timing thing. plus what would i do with bud that leafy?? i'm super snobby as it is so i ain't gonna smoke any of that..

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the good news is the one plant is starting to smell great and i hope i get something worth smoking and can't wat to finish up and go from testing to growing and start learning more details and not be so focused on the system and be more focused on the genetics and growth.
 
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This would be so damn cool

i'll have to look into it but i've never heard of anyone using hydro roots for a mash bill. something would have to be added into the taste though. just plain roots and sugar wouldn't have much of any flavor at all and might just be jet fuel. i'd like to add some sort of fruit to the mash. when i ran dandelion i added pears. i'm not sure.. apples are in season right now, hard to go wrong with an apple mash!!

but i have a tool that measures the sugar content so i wouldn't be guessing on it, shine ain't like ganga yields, in shine you measure everything and before you even light the still you know exactly how much of what proof you're gonna get with math.

it would be really cool to run a small batch with roots in it.. maybe 6 gallon mash, 'll take the best 5 gallons and run that and get about a gallon and a half of 100 proof

It can be fun. A rabbit hole if you get into it. Wine, beer or spirits. I’d buy the wort or mash to start.

Takes a few months but it’s worth it if you do it right.

i'm glad i don't drink... and as i get older i know fewer and fewer people that do. normally the only reason i run a batch is because i don't have any.. or the show moonshiners comes on and gives me the itch!!! haha

i made that big batch of wine with my peaches and gave away a few bottles and a case and a half sits downstairs!! i was told it was strong!! hehehe what do ya expect when a shiner makes wine!!! haha

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hahaha love it Max, wish the times were still that simple!! i live around some good ol boys up here though.. i'm not the meet ya with a gun type but they always tell me, just shoot first and ask questions second!!! hahaha

my neighbor will go on vacation and say hey if you see anybody just shoot first then ask why they're there, if they don't answer they shouldn't have been there!!! i honestly never really know if he's joking or not!!! hahahaha

 
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