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Hey gang i just trimmed up an Amnesia Haze I had hanging for 2 weeks. The stems were still bendy. On a time crunch and need to make room for more about to get yanked. When I jarred up the goodness and put a hydrometer in, after a few hours got a reading of 64%. Am I susceptible to mold at that reading? I plan on longer and more frequent burps. Anyone else have any better suggestions?
 
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Dingo said:
Hey gang i just trimmed up an Amnesia Haze I had hanging for 2 weeks. The stems were still bendy. On a time crunch and need to make room for more about to get yanked. When I jarred up the goodness and put a hydrometer in, after a few hours got a reading of 64%. Am I susceptible to mold at that reading? I plan on longer and more frequent burps. Anyone else have any better suggestions?
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I'm going to use Grove bags for the first time on this approaching harvest, I don't understand exactly how they work yet so I'll be asking questions about them coming up, but these guys know!
 
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Beachwalker said:
This was my question about Grove bags from a while ago, hope it helps!

Grove Bags ??

When I quit growing four years ago these weren't around yet, but I'd sure like to give them a try Could someone who's used these give me an opinion please?
budbuilders.org budbuilders.org
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From what I read about them I think that might be the way to go for me at this point in time anyway with time constraints and moving. Gave Jeff Bezos more money to get them here to me today. Thanks again Beachwalker I heard of them but didn’t understand them so never looked.
 
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Dingo said:
From what I read about them I think that might be the way to go for me at this point in time anyway with time constraints and moving. Gave Jeff Bezos more money to get them here to me today. Thanks again Beachwalker I heard of them but didn’t understand them so never looked.
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Screenshot_20250630-093744.jpgI just bought these, still not exactly sure how they work, going to read that thread again. I've got time, haven't even chopped yet
 
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Dingo said:
From what I read about them I think that might be the way to go for me at this point in time anyway with time constraints and moving. Gave Jeff Bezos more money to get them here to me today. Thanks again Beachwalker I heard of them but didn’t understand them so never looked.
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Jeff's gonna need the money, he just got married, $he'll be taking half soon!💸 😂🤣😂
 
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Drying is the hardest part of growing for me. I can get 60-62% but I can never get 60-62f. The best I can do is 68f in the winter maybe 65f, summer I'm fked with temp lucky if I can get 74f..at night....So I over dry always so they snap off the branches then put in Grove bags, sealed with 1-2, 62% humidity packs in them. I use the 1/4lb bags with 2 size #67 humidity packs in them. 2 weeks + and longer in the bags brings back the moisture and smell. I don't have a Cannatrol so this is the best I can do and for me it works great. My weed smells great and is hard and burns perfect.

I built a 3x3x3' wood box with a12 v computer fan exhaust , passive filtered intakes and a small osculating fan inside 2 weeks and they're done into the bags they goMay19 Dry box.JPG
 
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Pipecarver said:
Drying is the hardest part of growing for me. I can get 60-62% but I can never get 60-62f. The best I can do is 68f in the winter maybe 65f, summer I'm fked with temp lucky if I can get 74f..at night....So I over dry always so they snap off the branches then put in Grove bags, sealed with 1-2, 62% humidity packs in them. I use the 1/4lb bags with 2 size #67 humidity packs in them. 2 weeks + and longer in the bags brings back the moisture and smell. I don't have a Cannatrol so this is the best I can do and for me it works great. My weed smells great and is hard and burns perfect.

I built a 3x3x3' wood box with a12 v computer fan exhaust , passive filtered intakes and a small osculating fan inside 2 weeks and they're done into the bags they goView attachment 107079
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Yeah I’m seriously considering building a DIY cannatrol for this reason. It’s difficult for anyone to get down to a consistent 60 degrees.
 
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Dingo said:
Yeah I’m seriously considering building a DIY cannatrol for this reason. It’s difficult for anyone to get down to a consistent 60 degrees.
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I had plans this year to buy a small freezer and run 4" ducts from the freezer to my box with an intake and an exhaust fan on a thermostat, Moe said great what about condensation? it will build up inside the freezer. scrap that plan.....a small air conditioner with ducts into my box is option 2 but I still need exhaust for the aircon down in a windowless basement1751293412523.png
 
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I took the plunge and purchased a bunch of items.
Here is what I am thinking.
Strip contents.
Start unit under load with some garden plant clippings.
Install fans for indirect air flow.
Monitor to determine how the unit will work.
Add Dehumidifier if applicable.
I will be hanging the plant material just like cannibas.
Here are the purchased items...and I will be using an AC Infinity controller to monitor and control.

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It goes without saying, that there are things to consider here. For example...
Humidity control
Fresh air turn over
Temperature control
Air flow
So, I will be looking at how all that works together. I make the assumption that the unit pulls in fresh air, but it might not do it frequently enough. So it might require some slow and steady air turnover, using some filtered 1 inch fans installed in opposing sidewalls. Just a thought.

Of all my dries, a total of 4 or 5, the best was 60F and 60 RH. I am looking to improve it with some methodologies I read online. It is a 3 day drawdown from the original amount of moisture introduced in the initial introduction of plant material to the space. If you load and set for 60/60, it will dry out the material to fast. You must slowly pull our moisture over days, to get to 60/60. It's a dance with mold too. If you take too long to stabilize, you run the risk of mold. There are additional methods of target Temp/RH measurements, such as VPD, but I have not researched it as of yet.

In short...meat, cheese, wine, tobacco etc., have 100s of years of experience and knowledge doing the same thing we are doing with cannibas, that is, drying and curing. After you busted your ass growing a fabulous plant, why not finish it correctly with proper drying and curing methodologies. Just saying...lol.

I'll keep trying and sharing. Beats 1000s of dollars on Cannatrol. Just imagine..
Cannatrol is not much different than what us do it yourselfers are doing. If they would just sell it at a fair price of 300-500 dollars, they would be flying off the shelves. But instead I imagine they are collecting dust in a warehouse somewhere in China. Oh well.

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I also looked at some Peltier devices as well. Many have purchased the small Dehumidifier devices and stripped them down to the peltier device, as the housing etc., is not needed.

My concern was that the peltier device didn't actually remove moisture, but instead raised the internal temperature and signal the wine cooler to cycle, which in turn moves air, cools, and pulls out moisture. It is my belief that the peltier device may indeed remove some moisture out of the environment and returns it in the form of small droplets that are collected and drained out of unit. But, this is miniscule compared to the moisture removing capabilities of the wine cooler. So, it seems that the design would benefit from an actual Dehumidifier, but time will tell. It's all new to me and I'm NO engineer. Just read tons of posts online about this and how to proceed. I took a closer look at Cannatrol and it is almost the same damn size as my unit. 1600 dollars. All in, I am not remotely close, maybe 400 dollars tops. Geez loo weez. Get a fucking grip Cannatrol you trolls.


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I like to dry in my room or tent in the room if I can manage it. Sometimes it means cutting a few plants late and a few plants early.
I run 62-68f with humidity at 50% first couple days then 62%.
Could be a week or 2. Never had my stems snap unless the whole plant was over dry or small stem.
I like to finish in a paper bag for maybe 3-7 days still in the room or tentbefore jarring with hygrometer and Boveeda 62% pack.
Having your herb at 62% is ok.
Over 65% is time to air.
I never burp unless I am out of range[over 65%].
I also have a cannatrol for when I can't just convert the room, or tent for the one or two oddball plants that can't play well with the others.
It only holds 2lbs wet and takes 5 days or so before I can jar. Good tool but has limits.
 
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Tremojem said:
In short...meat, cheese, wine, tobacco etc., have 100s of years of experience and knowledge doing the same thing we are doing with cannibas, that is, drying and curing. After you busted your ass growing a fabulous plant, why not finish it correctly with proper drying and curing methodologies. Just saying...lol.
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The closer I get to recreating a cheese cave, the better my weed gets. ;smoke
 
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Dingo said:
Hey gang i just trimmed up an Amnesia Haze I had hanging for 2 weeks. The stems were still bendy. On a time crunch and need to make room for more about to get yanked. When I jarred up the goodness and put a hydrometer in, after a few hours got a reading of 64%. Am I susceptible to mold at that reading? I plan on longer and more frequent burps. Anyone else have any better suggestions?
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Your good at 64%. Jar them up and burp once a day, if they stay the same, your good to seal them up and start curing.

No molding at 64%

Edit: 64% humidity at 72deg f
 
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58-62% RH for buds sitting in jars, higher than that and molding possibility.

From everything I've read.

Bud moisture content should be between 8-12%
 
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