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Kuwl...... MH FC 8000 EVO + 6 Plants

OLDCRO said:
I put my seeds in the final pot right off the bat so have no experience with using sunshine 4 in starter cups no up potting for me one and done.
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I don't know how you can do that, small plants in large pots makes watering properly difficult. I guess like everything experience has its benefits. I feed the pot not the plant in soil until they hit the AP's.

I used the Google Ai feature and compared VPW30 - Sunshine Mix #4. They are comparable but there's no starter charge in the VPW30. I always treated them the same and I thought the VPW had a charge in it as well ( I don't read the fine print very often).

I have some leaf problems now from not giving them a regular dose of Epsom salts, I kept forgetting to add and now I've a few leaf issues. They'll get better now that I'm on it but its always something.
 
Pipecarver said:
I don't know how you can do that, small plants in large pots makes watering properly difficult. I guess like everything experience has its benefits. I feed the pot not the plant in soil until they hit the AP's.

I used the Google Ai feature and compared VPW30 - Sunshine Mix #4. They are comparable but there's no starter charge in the VPW30. I always treated them the same and I thought the VPW had a charge in it as well ( I don't read the fine print very often).

I have some leaf problems now from not giving them a regular dose of Epsom salts, I kept forgetting to add and now I've a few leaf issues. They'll get better now that I'm on it but its always something.
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I don’t think the older blue bushels of SSM#4 were charged. The newer black ones might be.
 
Zen_seeker said:
I don’t think the older blue bushels of SSM#4 were charged. The newer black ones might be.
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I just asked to compare Greenworld VPW30 to Sunshine Mix #4 for growing cannabis

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Both
Greenworld VPW30 and Sunshine Mix #4 are effective peat-based growing media for cannabis, with the main difference being the perlite concentration and the need for nutrient supplementation.

  • Greenworld VPW30 comes pre-mixed with a higher perlite content (around 30%), offering excellent drainage and aeration, and is often a more budget-friendly option.
  • Sunshine Mix #4 is an OMRI-listed (Organic Materials Review Institute) mix that includes beneficial mycorrhizae, which helps with nutrient uptake and root health. Its perlite content is typically lower (around 17-20%).
Both mixes are primarily composed of Canadian Sphagnum Peat Moss and perlite, designed for high aeration and excellent drainage. They are considered "inert" or soilless media, meaning you have full control over the nutrient schedule from early on in the plant's life cycle.


Feature
Greenworld VPW30Sunshine Mix #4
Primary IngredientCanadian Sphagnum Peat Moss (approx. 70%)Canadian Sphagnum Peat Moss
AerationCoarse Perlite (approx. 25%), Coarse Vermiculite (approx. 5%)Horticultural Grade Perlite
Nutrient ContentStarter charge includedStarter nutrient charge with gypsum and dolomite lime
pH LevelSlightly acidic, balanced by limepH range of 5.0-7.0, buffered with dolomite lime
Key AdvantageHigh air capacity and moisture retentionHigh air capacity and rapid drainage, often includes Mycorrhizae
 
Pipecarver said:
I just asked

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Both
Greenworld VPW30 and Sunshine Mix #4 are effective peat-based growing media for cannabis, with the main difference being the perlite concentration and the need for nutrient supplementation.

  • Greenworld VPW30 comes pre-mixed with a higher perlite content (around 30%), offering excellent drainage and aeration, and is often a more budget-friendly option.
  • Sunshine Mix #4 is an OMRI-listed (Organic Materials Review Institute) mix that includes beneficial mycorrhizae, which helps with nutrient uptake and root health. Its perlite content is typically lower (around 17-20%).
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I’ll have to see if the last bales wrapper is still in the garage. Pretty sure it didn’t but you know how old stoners memory goes. 🤣
 
Zen_seeker said:
I’ll have to see if the last bales wrapper is still in the garage. Pretty sure it didn’t but you know how old stoners memory goes. 🤣
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These are not the compressed bales, they are lose pack with some chunks 80L/2.8cu/ft. I used to get the solid 3.2cu/ft bales around $35. These bags are easier to handle, those old bales were supposed to be like 50lbs but left outside in their yards they turned to 100lbs after a few rains.
 
Second opinion
I believe these spots are a bug, mites?
or thripes I have to check with a mag glass as I cannot see.
None of the other plants have them.
gtg eat, here's a pic
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Kuwl said:
Second opinion
I believe these spots are a bug, mites?
or thripes I have to check with a mag glass as I cannot see.
None of the other plants have them.
gtg eat, here's a pic
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Better pic but nope, no bugs, that I can see with the loup.
From problem leaf pic's, it's a early Calcium def., Guess I will feed a 2/2/2/2 + 1/2ml r + 1/2 tsp es
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Kuwl said:
Second opinion
I believe these spots are a bug, mites?
or thripes I have to check with a mag glass as I cannot see.
None of the other plants have them.
gtg eat, here's a pic
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I don't think they are bugs from what I see. I get funky spots and deformed leaves early a lot of times. I think its just a temperamental/ finicky plant., doesn't like the ph or soil or air pressure/humidity but will eventually adjust
 
Pipecarver said:
These are not the compressed bales, they are lose pack with some chunks 80L/2.8cu/ft. I used to get the solid 3.2cu/ft bales around $35. These bags are easier to handle, those old bales were supposed to be like 50lbs but left outside in their yards they turned to 100lbs after a few rains.
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Ah, that’s it then. Mine are compressed. Good to know if it comes up again. Carry on.
 
I re-potted them today.
All but the 2 seedlings (Runtz/AHLJ)
The root look skimpy but pretty good in length.
I put the 2 WT's in one pot, from there it will go into the XXL AP.
They look ok so far, now if I can just keep my hands off them. haha
I'll have to get a note book to keep track of all of them, with dif start/feed times an all.
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Took the pic from the cam down there, to lazy to go down there again lol.
 
Let's see now:
Runtz @ 1 wk old
AHLJ @ 1 wk old
White Truffles x2 @ 2 wks old
Tangi Dream @ 2 wks old
Sun Daze Haze @ 6 wks old
That's close enough, so I check on the pots this morning and lift each one to see how light.
SDH was light again after a minimimal watering with plain PH'ed (was at 7.5 ph'ed it down to 6.5) water.
As I see the high N in this plant. When I checked the run off it was 2300 so just plain water till that calms down.
Now after only a few days it's dry again. I watered again because it does not look like it needs any more nutes added.
Next time I will add a 4/4/4/, (Micro/Grow/Bloom) to give it some fresh nutes.
This plant is very very green and lush and bushy as heck, the only plant to survive my soil mix.

Only problem I see is the one WT with some yellowing bottom leaves.
The other WT is responding well. In fact all the plants are doing ok except that one.
I hope it don't stunt again but I do not see any growth with that one.
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Tangi Dream doing much better now
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The new kids in the cups
Runtz n AHLJ
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Sun Daze Haze :) I topped it once so far.
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Family pic
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Being careful I don't water till the pots are dry enough, keeping track of it.
SDH is drying out fast, 2 or 3 days, the roots must be big.
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I would pull the yellow leaves and the ones next to them/ the whole cluster of 3 blades if they touch the soil.
You don't want your leaves resting on the soil.
They all look to be doing much better.
 
Progress :)
I let the pots get bone dry before watering with PH water, cause my PH lvl for tap is 7.5 give or take 2.
Still no nutes going in it. The big SDH is doing much better, the dark green leaves are finally fading to a more normal green.
The plants in the solo's (Runtz/SHLJ) are getting along fine and so is Tangi Dream in the gal. pot.
White Truffle plants are doing well except for the one that had yellow leaves is not doing much of anything. Stalled again.
Still a nice color green and no yellowing or burning just sitting there, not growing or developing. The other WT has over taken it.

I raised the light over SDH from 13" to 16" and increased it to 50%.
Lux reads are about 36k over SDH - 27k over TD/WT's - 19% over Runtz/AHLJ in the solo's.
I got a note book to keep track of everything cause it's a cluster f in my head.
I'm thinking of transplanting the SDH to the AP pot to be done with it and maybe TD and WT's too.
Maybe I'll wait another week and do them all in the AP's. idk
But so far so good.
IMG_6978.PNG I think the numbers look ok.
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