Landraces and pure strains

[MDK]

I've been looking at landraces and wanted to know which ones made it into modern cannabis. Someone pointed me to this site and I was able to find a specific section that helped answer my questions and let me explore a bit. Too much work to do anything more comprehensive in my opinion so I'll just post the link. Can't vouch on accuracy, but a good starting point.

Genetic-DB - Pure Strains and Hybrids :: SeedFinder.eu

Here you can allocate pure strains and landraces as like as unknown hybrids or strains out of our big Cannabis Genetic Database.

en.seedfinder.eu

 

[Bandit420]

I've been looking at landraces and wanted to know which ones made it into modern cannabis. Someone pointed me to this site and I was able to find a specific section that helped answer my questions and let me explore a bit. Too much work to do anything more comprehensive in my opinion so I'll just post the link. Can't vouch on accuracy, but a good starting point.

Genetic-DB - Pure Strains and Hybrids :: SeedFinder.eu

Here you can allocate pure strains and landraces as like as unknown hybrids or strains out of our big Cannabis Genetic Database.

en.seedfinder.eu

That's a legitimate and accurate database at seedfinder.

I've dabbled with some landrace from Vietnam, the sativa Mekong High, and the natural hybrid from up in the mountains, China Yunnan.
Decent pot and better suited for breeding IMO but still a fun and interesting project that taught me some things. #1 being sativas have no business in my room and are better suited for outdoors. Those plants got way too big for me indoors. Yunnan was more manageable though. Longest pistils I've ever seen on cannabis and her colas were dubbed "Wookie Spears" because they seriously looked like Chewbacca's fur coat when they went red.

 

[MDK]

Yea I think it'll help me narrow down where I want to go based on strains I like...I'm a creative person so breeding will be something I do at some point for my own use.

 

[BigBagOfBuds]

That's a legitimate and accurate database at seedfinder.

I've dabbled with some landrace from Vietnam, the sativa Mekong High, and the natural hybrid from up in the mountains, China Yunnan.
Decent pot and better suited for breeding IMO but still a fun and interesting project that taught me some things. #1 being sativas have no business in my room and are better suited for outdoors. Those plants got way too big for me indoors. Yunnan was more manageable though. Longest pistils I've ever seen on cannabis and her colas were dubbed "Wookie Spears" because they seriously looked like Chewbacca's fur coat when they went red.

How was the China Yunnan? Any pictures you can share? I have some seeds in the freezer waiting for my return to growing.

I've collected a fairly diverse variety but only grown a handful so far. Sudannese and Syrian, the Sudannese has some interesting autoflowee genetics, super long flowering, if I remember correctly they took 90-100 days from seed, 6.5ft tall of pure sativa buds. Please excuse the dead leaves, it was my first pure sativa hahaha.

 

[SweetLeafGrow]

I have some China Yunnan seeds as well, thought about running them or some Viola next, got them both from Ace Seeds over in Spain.

However, I am thinking about running another strain I got in that same order called Panama Red, a pure Sativa landrace. Never grown a Sativa but really want to so I might bust one of these out and get it going soon. If I end up going that route, gonna do a lot of LST and use my spectrum control light to keep her short as possible.

Should be a fun one!

 

[Costanza]

I highly recommend this guy. Hes got some Colombian gold, golden highland thai and a few others.

Hyp3rids

 

[SweetLeafGrow]

I highly recommend this guy. Hes got some Colombian gold, golden highland thai and a few others.

Hyp3rids

I have heard very good things about this breeder. Never tried any yet though I would love to!

 

[Bandit420]

How was the China Yunnan? Any pictures you can share? I have some seeds in the freezer waiting for my return to growing.

I've collected a fairly diverse variety but only grown a handful so far. Sudannese and Syrian, the Sudannese has some interesting autoflowee genetics, super long flowering, if I remember correctly they took 90-100 days from seed, 6.5ft tall of pure sativa buds. Please excuse the dead leaves, it was my first pure sativa hahaha.
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Looked very similar to that plant there, maybe a bit thinner colas and fewer of them since it was indoors. Grew to 6' tall ez and gave me all sort of issues with headroom and her burning herself on the light.
The smoke was ok and better suited to be made to hash or even charas. Very low potency but good earthy flavor.

I have some China Yunnan seeds as well, thought about running them or some Viola next, got them both from Ace Seeds over in Spain.

However, I am thinking about running another strain I got in that same order called Panama Red, a pure Sativa landrace. Never grown a Sativa but really want to so I might bust one of these out and get it going soon. If I end up going that route, gonna do a lot of LST and use my spectrum control light to keep her short as possible.

Should be a fun one!

The Mekong and China Yunnan I grew were both from Ace as well and legit.
Dutch Passion claims to also have Mekong but I'm skeptical. Too many DP strains are fakes or trash renamed to sell when they didn't sell under a different name

 

[Costanza]

I have heard very good things about this breeder. Never tried any yet though I would love to!

I have 2 of his strains in my tent rigit now and I'm trimming one right now as I type this

 

[MDK]

These low potency landraces would they be able to be selectively bred and overtime made into something potent? Does this only work to a degree or is potential there to take something 5% thc and turn it to 25% through selective breeding?

 

[BigBagOfBuds]

These low potency landraces would they be able to be selectively bred and overtime made into something potent? Does this only work to a degree or is potential there to take something 5% thc and turn it to 25% through selective breeding?

Anything is possible with enough time and money hahaha. But realistically I don't think you could without outcrossing to something higher potency like a thai or malawi plant. Ace has done a bunch of work with pure sativa hybrids mixing up the low and high potency and then selecting from large populations to get somewhat consistent high potency. So it is possible to breed with landraces and get modern potency, just unlikely if you inbreed/cross with low potency only. However the low potency stuff has its benefits in other ways that the high THC stuff doesn't. More variety in cannabinoids, interesting aromas, disease and drought resistances.

 

[moe.red]

These low potency landraces would they be able to be selectively bred and overtime made into something potent? Does this only work to a degree or is potential there to take something 5% thc and turn it to 25% through selective breeding?

I think what you are searching for is hybrid vigor. Crosses can be better than either of the parents.

But if you are just dealing with a single landrace, that would be tough. They are already stable genetics. You need something to rock the boat.

 

[Bandit420]

These low potency landraces would they be able to be selectively bred and overtime made into something potent? Does this only work to a degree or is potential there to take something 5% thc and turn it to 25% through selective breeding?

I'd look to Thai to bump potency in the South East Asian landraces or cross it with South Central American sativa.
A good Thai cut can get into the teens. Best I had was Chocolate Thai come in at 17% but average was around 12%. Some as low as 8%.
This side of the Pacific is more potent with original skunk coming from those landrace strains so you could probably pheno hunt and do selective breeding that could result in a SEA sativa get high teens low 20s. Then you would have a Haze strain. Might take a few years and hundreds of plants to choose from but possible. Not many breeders go down that road these days though. Most are just pollen chucking the latest fads

 

[Tremojem]

I have some China Yunnan seeds as well, thought about running them or some Viola next, got them both from Ace Seeds over in Spain.

However, I am thinking about running another strain I got in that same order called Panama Red, a pure Sativa landrace. Never grown a Sativa but really want to so I might bust one of these out and get it going soon. If I end up going that route, gonna do a lot of LST and use my spectrum control light to keep her short as possible.

Should be a fun one!

I would love some Panama Red seeds!

 

[Franksta]

I have some China Yunnan seeds as well, thought about running them or some Viola next, got them both from Ace Seeds over in Spain.

However, I am thinking about running another strain I got in that same order called Panama Red, a pure Sativa landrace. Never grown a Sativa but really want to so I might bust one of these out and get it going soon. If I end up going that route, gonna do a lot of LST and use my spectrum control light to keep her short as possible.

Should be a fun one!

First strain I ever smoked was the Panama red back in the 70s

I’m with bandit420 that most landraces are best suited for breeding purposes but perhaps some of the indica can be easily grown in some climaxes and even a sativa depending on your local climate parameters

Need to find strains suitable for your location and this should yield the best results imho

 

[steamroller]

Glad to hear from you @Franksta

 

[TomH]

First strain I ever smoked was the Panama red back in the 70s

That’s an awesome start, heck my first toke was from some brown stuff that was more seed than weed. I’m not even sure I remember seeing buds, just shake and seeds.

Still did the job, but I’m guessing I wouldn’t want it today!