Aliens and UFOs/UAPs

[Bushman]

 

[Bushman]

Don't get me wrong with this video, it might be kinda silly and funny, but i like it.

Aliens is a very serious and very interesting subject. There was times, when i was giving a lot of attention to the sky. Couple of times i saw something pretty weird, my primitive brain just can't explain it lol

 

[Observer]

Reddit - Dive into anything

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another alien body "found"

 

[SiamSam]

Does this Nebula look like anything familiar to you? My friend from Utah sent me this picture, his local astronomy hobby group recorded using days worth of data. It looks like a giant ganja seed to me.....what kind of weed do aliens smoke?

 

[SiamSam]

Reddit - Dive into anything

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another alien body "found"

Nazca Tridactyl Alien Reptiles of Peru and Russia, are they the same species and does the existence of both establish that they are genuine aliens? One thing it kind of does indicate that it would be awfully far to walk from Peru to Russia so the skeletons featured here probably had some kind of airborne craft to take them from one place to another. The 'identical' nature is pretty interesting and if you dig around in the ground sooner or later you can have a TV show (Oak Island comes to mind).​

 

[Observer]

the sol foundation

 

[Observer]

the sol foundation

genius

 

[Observer]

we are going to the stars

 

[Observer]

"its possible"

 

[Observer]

clever engineering

charging supercapacitors through superconductivity via quantum vacuum energy extraction

how?
ill be back

 

[GoodShit97]

the sol foundation

This dude is from UAlbany college right here 25-30 minutes away from me.

 

[Observer]

This dude is from UAlbany college right here 25-30 minutes away from me.

pretty cool

just finding him out, pretty knowledgeable of the subject too

i was thinking earlier:

How to BAIT a UFO: fly some nukes/ launch some dummy nukes around, he mentions that at the end, lmao.

cool af.


and we have.

 

[Observer]

 

[Observer]

Reddit - Dive into anything

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[Observer]

Aneutronic fusion propulsion

Not heard that one before

 

[Observer]

"Well, years later, decades later actually, finally our own science moves along. We move into an area called metamaterials, and it turns out exactly this combination of materials at exactly those dimensions turn out to be an excellent microscopic waveguide for very high frequency electromagnetic radiation terahertz frequencies. So, the wavelength is 60 microns, which is a pretty small size. But it turns out because of the metamaterial aspect of this material, those bismuth layers that act as waveguides can be one twentieth the size of the wavelength, and usually when you make a waveguide it’s gotta be about the size of the wavelength. So, in fact this turned out to be a material that would propagate sub-wavelength waveguide effects. Why somebody wants to do that we still don’t know the answer to that."

 

[Observer]

some history

 

[SiamSam]

OBSO, best video yet explaining how the technology transfer has/is taking place between the military and UFP....

 

[Observer]

Tf is this

Stigmatoteuthis dofleini | JAMSTEC E-library of Deep-sea Images

Perhaps it's overexposure from the subs lights just reflecting off a darting squid???

Or it's claimed it's just a fish, reflection, etc

I don't know

Looks cool though.

0:25-0:31 seconds in


Supposedly a ribbon fish......

If it is, that's crazy/cool it can appear that way.

 

[SiamSam]

Hawaii is the darkest place in the US. It’s a hotspot for UFO sightings.​

In a remote region of the island of Hawaii (aka the Big Island), where the road ends completely at a hardened lava field, I walk a short gravel path to the edge of what is Hawaii’s only UFO landing pad, at the Hawaii Star Visitor Sanctuary.

A handmade sign announces my arrival at the alien landing pad, a large and level undeveloped patch of black lava rock. It was dedicated in 2014 and advocated for by the late Robert Keliihoomalu, who was the patriarch of this community and part of the Hawaiian sovereignty group Lawful Hawaiian Government. The Sanctuary’s Declarationstates the group’s belief that, “Hawaiian tradition recognizes Na Huihui o Makalii (the constellation of Pleiades/Seven Sisters) as the place from which, according to legend, the first Hawaiian people came to Earth.”

As unusual as a landing pad may sound, it’s not so far-fetched for an island with the most spectacular views of space. The night sky glitters like a field of gemstones, with planets and radiant stars filling every dark void. The Milky Way galaxy is clear and defined. Satellites are visible, orbiting above at a smooth and steady pace. And when the bright International Space Station makes an appearance, it catches the observer’s eye.

In the Puna district of the Big Island, the Hawaii Star Visitor Sanctuary was dedicated in 2014 as a place where visitors from space can land.
Christine Hitt/SFGATE
With a strict lighting ordinance protecting its dark skies, the Big Island has become a hot spot for sightings of unidentified flying objects, and they are vastly underreported. It’s a place where UFO enthusiasts gather to review the sky, and local UFO investigators study the phenomena regularly.

Reported sightings​

Hawaii has seen UFO sightings since at least 1947, when submarine base sailors reported seeing a “flying saucer” fly by “like a streak” over Pearl Harbor, according to a 1977 article in The Honolulu Advertiser.

From Waikiki to Maui and Maunakea, countless sightings have been reported since. In 1959, The Indianapolis Star reported that a veteran airline pilot flying from San Francisco to Honolulu saw “one intensely bright white light followed by four smaller lights” east of Honolulu. “Suddenly the object made a sharp right turn at a speed inconceivable of any vehicle we know of and the light suddenly disappeared,” he said.

Newspapers have reported UFO sightings in Hawaii since at least 1947. The above 1973 sighting, reported by the Hawaii Tribune-Herald, was by “three Hilo firemen and an air traffic controller.”
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Later, in 1973, Hilo firemen reported a UFO to the Hilo Airport, which verified there were no flights. “It looked like a large star, but like it had artificial lighting. When we trained our telescopes and binoculars on it, it looked oval in shape, with red lights around it,” the lieutenant reported, as quoted in the Hawaii Tribune-Herald. “... After 10 minutes, it suddenly shot straight up to the sky.” And a little over three years ago, a large blue UFOwas seen over Oahu and dropped into the ocean. The Federal Aviation Administration told Hawaii News Now that there were no missing or overdue aircraft.

But sightings outnumber those reported in the news. As I was leaving the Big Island on a predawn morning flight, I mentioned to my driver, a local, how amazing the stars are at night, without saying anything about UFOs.

He then told me that while out stargazing, he saw what appeared to be a satellite merge with another object, then split into three and speed off in different directions. A witness to abnormal behavior for what was supposed to be a satellite, he told me it spooked him.
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During a Big Island UFO tour, Thompson and her guests spotted a cigar-shaped object in the night sky.
Lisa Thompson
Unexplained sightings aren’t that unusual in Hawaii, especially on the Big Island.

“There are sightings just all the time,” Lisa Thompson of Big Island UFO Tours told SFGATE. “People don’t report it here because it’s either such a normal thing or they don’t know where to go.”

Thompson, who has a Ph.D. in organismal biology and anatomy, has lived on the Big Island for three years. She has collected a plethora of stories from Big Island residents.

“One of my guests, he’s a local nighttime fisherman, and he and his brother, they were several miles offshore in the middle of the night, pitch-black ocean like 2,000-3,000 feet deep, and all of a sudden, it was like 3 in the morning, that ocean just lights up all around them. No explanation for that,” said Thompson.

Another resident said while fishing nearby, “a massive white light craft comes up out of the water right in front of them,” startling them so much they left their gear and drove away. Other people, she said, have seen UFOs going into the mountains, and into and out of the water.

The known objects​

On the Big Island UFO tour, guests meet Thompson at a location in Waikoloa Village, where she educates them on the behavior of known objects, such as drones, satellites, planes and helicopters. Satellites, for instance, move in one direction across the sky at a consistent speed, without changing direction.

The Big Island UFO tour meets Lisa Thompson at a location in Waikoloa to view the night sky.
Lisa Thompson
The tour continues with guests looking up at the night sky using advanced Gen 3 military night vision goggles, which, she said, are 100 times better than the naked eye. “We will see things that start out looking like satellites, but then they’ll do something that satellites don’t do or can’t do, like change direction, change the amount of light that they’re giving off,” said Thompson. “We’ve had zigzags, wobbles, there have been some close enough where we’re able to see kind of shape, like the triangular craft is one that we’ve seen a few times where it comes closer.”

Thompson said they check sightings against satellite tracking and constellation apps to identify whether it is a known object or, in fact, unknown. They take photos and videos when they can. “Sometimes we will have things start happening before we even get the goggles out,” she said.

Thompson said her best personal experience was on March 7, 2023, when she saw a bright light above the tree line near her home that “looked like it was a very, very big, pulsating star.” She checked her constellation app and made sure it wasn’t a star or planet, and knew it wasn’t a satellite because it was not moving. It stayed there for 30 minutes, she said, brightening and dimming.

“With the video, what you can see is the pulsing, but you can actually see the spinning part of the craft as well,” she said. “Whether you or your readers would believe it, it is a Pleiadian craft.”

Thompson said several friends have also captured the same type of craft from the Pleiades star cluster, here on the island with their phones.



Across the street from her home, Big Island UFO Tours owner Lisa Thompson caught a video of “double doughnut” rotating circles.
Lisa Thompson
In January 2023, a telescope on top of the Mauna Kea volcano on the Big Island captured a swirling shape in the sky, and the space community suspects it to be caused by a SpaceX launch that happened the same day. The difference between the two is that what Thompson captured wasn’t swirling, but rather, two rotating circles that did not break shape.

“I know that a lot of scientists are very close-minded to this, so I don’t really pay much attention to what they say,” Thompson said. “I know what I have experienced; I know what I have seen.”

The darkest sky​

Richard Wainscoat, an astronomer at the University of Hawaii at Manoa, researches Near-Earth Objects with the Pan-STARRS telescopes on Haleakala, Maui. The Pan-STARRS team were the ones who discovered Oumuamua, the first interstellar object found within our solar system. Now largely considered a comet, its odd shape and peculiar acceleration have some researchers still speculating about a possible artificial origin.

“I have an open mind. I saw one thing when I was a kid that I didn’t understand, but by the time I fetched someone else to see it, it was gone,” Wainscoat told SFGATE. “I think there can be stuff in the sky that we don’t even see and that would be subject for future research, but it’s a stretch to say that anything that we see is sort of extraterrestrial life.”

The most common objects people see moving in the sky are satellites, he said, which number in the thousands. SpaceX’s Starlink satellites, the long series of lights that crawl across the sky like a train, also get mistaken for UFOs.

Some satellites rotate, which may cause one to look like a flashing light. “If you look at the sky with night vision goggles, you see a lot more. There are a lot of satellites that are just beyond what you can see with your naked eye,” Wainscoat said. There’s also space junk reentering the atmosphere that can be mistaken for UFOs and, though rare, there are also satellite collisions.
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Star trails over the Big Island, taken with the Canada-France-Hawaii telescope.
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There are no electronic systems that monitor the sky every second, according to Wainscoat. Instead, it is scanned in intervals of around 5 to 15 minutes. “If there’s a short flash or something, it’s probably not going to be seen or not going to be recorded in those systems,” he said.

He also doesn’t think the Big Island is a ground zero for unexplained events, but rather it only appears that way because it doesn’t have as much light pollution as Oahu or Maui.

“People think there’s something magical about the Big Island but the thing that’s magical about the Big Island is the dark sky. It’s not that all these celestial phenomena are happening there; it’s that they are visible from there because the sky is dark.

“The darkest sky in Hawaii would be the Big Island,” Wainscoat continued. “It’s darker than anywhere in the United States,” he said, including the desert areas and even Alaska.

The 2 percent​

When the New York Times published its article in 2017 about U.S. military jets encountering unknown objects and the existence of a Pentagon UFO program, it was a watershed moment for UFO believers. It was also a turning point for Richard Griffiths, the Mutual UFO Network Hawaii state director, who had no interest in UFOs prior to that point.

“I was studiously ignoring it, like a lot of scientists,” Griffiths, a retired Carnegie Mellon University astrophysics professor, told SFGATE. After watching interviews with the jet fighter pilots and developing a keen interest, he became the Hawaii MUFON director in 2022.

MUFON is a civilian organization that was established in 1969 to study UFO phenomena after Project Blue Book, a government program, shut down. It now has “over 7,000 members worldwide… in about 30 countries,” Ron James, the media relations director for MUFON, told SFGATE, and there are state chapters all over the United States.
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On the Big Island UFO tour, military goggles are used to amplify what can be seen in space.
Lisa Thompson
MUFON studies and documents reported sightings, and if warranted, puts boots on the ground to do further investigation. Its national database now contains about 150,000 sightings, but the organization said it is able to identify about 96% of the objects that are reported to it.

“One thing MUFON’s very, very serious about is making sure that we’re not misidentifying things that have logical explanations. We’re very happy that 94-98% of our sighting reports are explained, because we’re really focusing on the 2% that aren’t,” James said.

James said fewer and fewer people are nonbelievers. “There’s evidence that there’s been some sort of unidentified intelligence interacting with humanity for pretty much all of recorded history,” he said. “Certain aspects of the government are aware of this phenomenon and keeping it a secret. And the odds of there being life other than us, even in physical space are overwhelming.”

Griffiths, who lives on the Big Island where there are military bases like on the other islands, said he doesn’t believe the unexplained objects are experiments by the military, but rather, the UFOs are interested in watching the military.

Most of the UFOs reported to him come from Oahu and they are mostly reported by visitors, rather than residents. Often, it’s photos of sunsets with “internal reflections in their cameras.” However, he’s also gotten reports from fishermen and others over in Waikiki and on the west coast of Oahu of objects going into the water.

Griffiths knows, though, that not everyone reports to MUFON and there’s more that could be happening out there. So he continues his work on the Big Island, where distant towns are enveloped in darkness as the evening sets in, and the illuminated sky begins its nightly show, while residents and visitors stare up at the sky, hoping to catch another sign that something else out there exists.

 

[Observer]

 

[SiamSam]

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They are smoking alien rock candy on the flightline

 

[Observer]

Howdy UFOs,

It’s been awhile since I’ve talked about audits and aliens. I would like to present some findings which may corroborate specific claims made in the legendary Wilson/Davis memo, namely in identifying the audit which nearly outed the program, according to Admiral Thomas Wilson. I will begin with a brief passage of relevant points within the memo, and will provide further information that may tie up a few loose threads, and wrap up with a brief timeline of events. As always, I am happy to answer the community’s questions and will provide a link to the good questions at the bottom of this post. I've also left a brief conclusion/TLDR at the bottom for the folks who can't bother reading all of the details...

Wilson/Davis Memo recap

full notes link: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6185702-Eric-Davis-meeting-with-Adm-Wilson

(Prior context: Adm. Thomas Wilson (TW) is recounting to Eric Davis (EWD) how he discovered a UFO program within OUSDAT records and him reaching out to said-program.)

TW: Yes, ten days later (mid-June or so). Flew out there

• Met in their conference room in their secure vault
• Three of them show up

EWD: Three guys with whom you had telecon?
TW: Yes, same 3

• Security director (NSA-retired, a CI expert)
• Program director
• Corporate attorney
• Called themselves “the watch committee,” or gate keepers.

EWD: What that phrase or name?
TW: I asked; they said they were formed out of necessity to protect themselves after a near disaster in the past almost blew their cover - something to do with an agreement that was reached with a couple of Pentagon SESs overseeing SAPs in those days - were vague about when that was.
EWD: What was this?
TW: Let me finish!
- They said years ago in past an audit investigation led to them, and it wasn’t supposed to- nearly outed!

• A battle, a nasty back n’ forth between them and the investigator and his Pentagon chief ensued - like a tug of war for program transparency, they told me- money was the issue- their hiding out became the other issue! - Some kind of threat was leveled to blow the lid off them so they backed down and let the investigator in to complete his job
• (They work very hard to keep program hidden)

EWD: What happened with that?
TW: He was officially briefed, given tour, shown their program
EWD: Did they show him a craft? Or hardware they said was “alien” or from a UFO?
TW: Didn’t say more about that.
- Said after that episode a formal agreement was struck with Pentagon people (SAPOC) to prevent this in future - didn’t want a repeat.

• Special criteria were established in agreement

- A special circumstance that must meet rigorous access criteria set by contractor committee

• No USG personnel are to gain access unless they met the criteria - to be administered by contractor committee (program director, attorney, security director) irregardless of the tickets and position USG personnel possessed.
• Literally their way or the highway

Helpful context: Eric’s detailed notes indicate that Admiral Thomas Wilson had this exchange with “the watch committee” around May 1997.

GAO Audits of the DoD

The Government Accountability Office, or GAO, is an independent government agency within the legislative branch that provides auditing, evaluative, and investigative services for the United States Congress. When instructed, the GAO has the capacity and legal authority to investigate any federal government agency and report relevant findings to the appropriate Congressional committees. ***You may have seen this office (w / r/ t UFOs) in passing, as there is a recent amendment to the IAA for 2025

which requires a GAO Comptroller General review of the All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO), namely its UAP reporting and Federal agency coordination efforts.

The GAO isn’t the only office with purview over DoD audits, and general monetary audits are usually performed by the Inspectors General of each agency, sometimes with the assistance of public accounting firms. However, if Congress asks any questions about DoD spending or programs, they often call upon the GAO to get it done, sometimes in the form of an amendment to the annual spending bill. With that in mind, and also keeping in mind the context of the Wilson/Davis memo, let’s take a look at a pretty scathing report of DoD Special Access Programs, which was completed and reported to Congress just a few years before Thomas Wilson would meet with the “gatekeepers”.

DoD Special Access Programs: Administrative Due Process Not Provided When Access Is Denied or Revoked, published May 1993

~https://www.gao.gov/assets/nsiad-93-162.pdf~

The full report is 38 pages, but I will summarize key findings, quotes, and major takeaways:

• The GAO “review(ed) the due process procedures and practices for individuals whose access to Special Access Programs (SAPs) and sensitive compartmented information (SCI) in the Army, Navy, and Air Force is denied or revoked.”
• Report was requested by:
  • William Clay (D), Chairman, Committee on Post Office and Civil Service
  • Frank McCloskey (D), Chairman, Subcommittee on the Civil Service, Committee on Post Office and Civil Service
  • Don Edwards (D), Chairman, Subcommittee on Civil and Constitutional Rights, Committee on the Judiciary

Key Quote on due process: “When unfavorable information surfaces or actions occur that indicate that authorizing or continuing an individual’s access to a SAP or SCI is not clearly consistent with the interest of national security, the access may be denied or revoked. When this happens, the individual should generally receive administrative due process, which includes being notified of the reasons, given a chance to respond, and advised of any appeal procedures. The nature and extent of due process depends on whether there is a security clearance, SAP access, or SCI access and whether the individual is a government or contractor employee.”

• “DoD procedures for security clearance and SAP/SCI access denials and revocations for government personnel provide that the individual be told in writing that denial or revocation is being considered, including the reasons; given an opportunity to respond in writing; given a written response with the reasons for the final administrative action; and given an opportunity to appeal the decision to a higher authority within the service or component.”
• “The Director of Central Intelligence (present-day Director of National Intelligence) has established minimum appeal procedures for individuals whom access to SCI has been denied or revoked. The SCI due process procedures are not as extensive as DoD’s. For example, the individual can request the reasons for denial or revocation of SCI access, but there is no requirement that the reasons be provided.”
• “With respect to DoD military and civilian personnel in SAPs, the Navy and Air Force did not comply with DoD Regulations, which generally requires due process when access to a SAP is denied or revoked.”
• In responding to this apparent noncompliance by the Navy and Air Force, DoD officials said the regulation was not intended to cover covert or unacknowledged SAPs. However, the regulation does not contain such qualification or limitation.
• The Navy and Air Force used the minimum procedures established by the Director of Central Intelligence (ie. individuals were notified after the access had been denied or revoked).
• “The Navy and Air Force did not have appeal procedures for SAPs because they did not have administrative due process for these programs. The Army had SAP administrative due process, including appeals, which was similar to its SCI process.”
• “Some of the designated appeal officials of the Navy and Air Force were in the same commands as the officials who made the determinations that resulted in the appeals (ie. revoking SAP clearance).”
• “DoD officials told us that the regulation was not intended to cover covert or unacknowledged SAP or SCI programs; however, there is no mention in the regulation about this limitation. DoD officials said that in the case of SAPs involving DoD personnel, they used the due process procedures established by the Director of Central Intelligence for SCI because of the program similarities.”

I call this next section, “fun with audit samples”

• “Because DoD does not maintain centralized records on SAP denials and revocations, we could only review the cases provided by the services, who told us that unacknowledged program cases would be excluded.”
• “The Navy gave us a listing of 70 SAP cases that covered the 9-month period beginning October 1, 1991, and we randomly selected 30.”
• “The Air Force gave us 26 SAP cases, and we reviewed them all. Most of the cases involved contractor personnel.”
• “DoD maintains a central records system that shows the security clearance and SCI eligibility status to DoD military, civilian, and contractor personnel. We used these records to select random samples of security clearance denials and revocations during our previous review, but we could only use them to select Army cases. We could not use them to select Navy and Air Force cases because of unreliable data partly resulting from the way the two services were organized to adjudicate security clearances and SCI accesses.”
• “The Army has a central adjudication facility to handle clearances and SCI access, whereas the Navy has one office handling clearances and two that handle SCI accesses. The Air Force, until recently, had two separate offices handling clearances and SCI accesses.”

Admiral Wilson also mentions how the unacknowledged UAP SAPs are in the same records group, but their relationship to each other is not obvious, which is weird based on his experience.

• "The central records showed that during the first 6 months of fiscal year 1992, there were 479 DoD and contractor employees for whom the Army denied or revoked SCI access. We selected our 30-case sample from that number. When we extracted random samples of Navy and Air Force cases from the central records and attempted to review the cases at the Navy and Air Force SCI adjudicating offices, we had some problems. The offices had many cases that did not appear in the central records. Therefore, we had to use listing of cases provided by the offices to select random samples of cases to review."

Did the GAO accidentally stumble across the UAP program due to the sampling approach used to review SCI cases? The next section might shed some more light.

Unacknowledged SAPs in the sample?

• “When we started our review, DoD was reluctant to give us SAP cases from unacknowledged programs because of security reasons. DoD told us that such programs accounted for about 10 to 20% of the total number of SAPs.”
• “We agreed to review access denials and revocations for only the presumably less sensitive acknowledged programs.”

Sure, it seems as if the sample sizes might not have accounted for revocations cases involving unacknowledged SAPs, but the way these are phrased possibly infers that an unacknowledged program was accidentally discovered during this particular audit. Was the SAP discovered during the concurrent review of SCI cases?

Director of Central Intelligence 1/14 for SCI

• Signed in May 1976 by George H.W. Bush, Director of Central Intelligence at the time.
• Sets minimum standards for notification that access to SAP or SCI has been denied or revoked, no provision for individual response to notification, however individuals are given the opportunity to appeal decisions.
• “Navy and Air Force, as permitted by DoD regulation, used minimum procedures established by the DCI. Individuals were notified after the access had been denied or revoked.”

GAO Recommendations to DoD

1. Direct Secretaries of the Navy and Air Force to comply with the due process requirements of DoD’s personnel security program regulation with respect to military and civilian personnel for whom access to a SAP is denied or revoked;
2. Require that the services designate officials for appeal purposes from commands that are independent from those officials who make unfavorable SAP/SCI access determinations;
3. Establish oversight procedures to ensure compliance by the services and components with the SAP/SCI due process requirements for DoD and contractor personnel;
4. Propose that the National Industrial Security Program (NISP) establish SAP due process procedures for contractor employees that are similar to DoD’s procedures for its military and civilian personnel.

DoD’s Response to GAO Recommendations

• DoD generally did not agree with our findings and recommendations, although it agreed with several issues.
• Basic differences exist with respect to the interpretation of requirements of DoD regulations (over SAP/SCI administrative due process procedures), DoD’s practical definition of due process, and results of our review and accompanying recommendations.
• “DoD did not concur with our recommendation calling for Navy and Air Force compliance with the administrative due process requirements. DoD said that we incorrectly took the position that its regulation requires the same administrative due process to deny or revoke an individual’s clearance for access to SAPs, regardless of the sensitivity of the program information.”

If the GAO only looked at acknowledged SAP cases, why is the DoD defending their rationale for cases involving “sensitive” (unacknowledged) programs?

Creation of the Senior Review Group (SRG) supporting SAPOC

Following the public release of the report in May 1993, DoD officials worked to revamp their protocols for SAPs and SCI. Notably, the SAPOC (Special Access Program Oversight Committee) modified its process for validating SAPs and reviewing security protocols. On January 5, 1994, the DEPSECDEF (Deputy Secretary for Defense) announced the creation of a Senior Review Group, which would review all SAPs before they were presented to the SAPOC. Click here for that document.

This is the same Senior Review Group that intimidated Admiral Wilson after he discovered a SAP dealing with UAP. Direct quotes from Wilson/Davis memo below:

EWD: Did you complain to SAPOC?
TW: Yes - called the subgroup members (Senior Review Group members) to a meeting at Pentagon

• Told them what happened at meeting
• They responded that they would sustain the contractor on their access denial
• So I ended up arguing with them a while
• Broke up in 20 minutes and they would meet me in 2-3 days.
• Got the call 2 days later (near end of June) and met again with Senior Review Group members

EWD: When?
TW: Before last week of June (97’)

• They told me (TW) that they were sustaining the contractor, that I was to immediately drop the matter and let it go - forget about it as I did not have purview over their project, it didn’t fall within my oversight, etc.
• I became very angry - started yelling when should have kept my mouth shut

EWD: Miller and Greer said you nearly got busted.
TW: Close to that!
- Told Miller Senior Review Group chairman said if I didn’t follow their suggestion that I would not see Director DIA promotion, got early retirement, lose 1 or 2 stars along the way

• Really incredibly angry - upset over this - livid!!!
• Why such a big deal over this considering the position of trust I have in the Pentagon - I do have relevant regulatory/statutory authority over their program - that’s my position!!!

Chronological Timeline of Events Described Above

February 1993-April 1993: GAO reviews SAP and SCI administrative due process protocols for Army, Navy, and Air Force. GAO finds limited evidence that Army follows DoD regulations, but seriously questions due process protocols for SAPs/SCI for Navy and Air Force.

April 1993: DoD responds to draft GAO report, indicates due process is not required for sensitive/unacknowledged programs. Agrees with several issues, but does not concur with GAO’s underlying assessment or definitions.

May 1993: GAO report forwarded to Congress. DoD begins addressing recommendations.

January 1994: DEPSECDEF announces creation of SRG to review all SAPs prior to transmission to SAPOC.

July 1994: While directly unrelated to this narrative, the Air Force publishes the “Roswell Report” after a lengthy GAO records inspection for documents “on the 1947 weather balloon crash at Roswell Army Air Field, New Mexico, focusing on the requirements for reporting air accidents similar to the Roswell crash; and any government records concerning the Roswell crash. (Anyone find the scope of this investigation curious?)

May 1997: Admiral Thomas Wilson discovers a series of unacknowledged SAPs under his authority and demands read-in to the program.

mid-June 1997: Admiral Wilson is told by “the watch committee”, a group of three corporate officials, that their program is reverse engineering a vehicle “not from this earth - not made by human hands.” The gatekeepers are extremely testy with Wilson’s lines of questioning.

late-June 1997: Admiral Wilson then meets with the SRG overseeing the portfolio and is told to drop his inquiries. Warned he will lose his promotion chances, forced into early retirement, or worse.

October 2002: Eric Davis meets with Admiral Wilson to discuss his discovery of an unacknowledged SAP dealing with a UAP vehicle in the possession of a "top aerospace defense contractor with intelligence in their portfolio."

Conclusion

Based on the details provided within the Wilson/Davis memo, I have reasonable confidence that this GAO audit-in-question is the audit referenced within the memo, which almost inadvertently outed the UAP Program. The GAO’s review focused on the larger concept known as due process, which is a fundamental right afforded to all Americans under the US Constitution. The GAO believes that due process should be afforded to all individuals, including those working in SAPs or working with SCI. However, the DoD (mainly the Air Force and Navy) disagreed with this notion, stating that due process is not required for cases involving unacknowledged or extremely-sensitive programs, among other reasons. The DoD were required to address the recommendations of the report, which likely led to the creation of the Senior Review Group that assists the SAPOC, the same SRG which intimidated Admiral Wilson after he discovered a UAP program.

 

[Observer]

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loved this patch

it was an official unreleased icon afaik

 

[Observer]

With all the stars, planets, solar systems and galaxies out in space............


It Would Be Ignorant to Think Earth is the only planet harboring Life.

 

[Observer]

Nazca Tridactyl Alien Reptiles of Peru and Russia, are they the same species and does the existence of both establish that they are genuine aliens? One thing it kind of does indicate that it would be awfully far to walk from Peru to Russia so the skeletons featured here probably had some kind of airborne craft to take them from one place to another. The 'identical' nature is pretty interesting and if you dig around in the ground sooner or later you can have a TV show (Oak Island comes to mind).​

im still waiting to see more data

but it appears some are legit mummies that are NOT HUMAN, and are UNKNOWN ORIGIN.


but again. waiting for more data and lab work, from reputable places....

 

[Observer]

""It was Charles Bowsher Comptroller General of the United States under President Reagan from 1981 to 1996 that was the one doing the audit that almost blew the lid off the program.

In Jacques Vallee’s book Forbidden Science 5 he states ““Hummingbird. Friday 24 September 2004. Jim Westwood, in Virginia, has come up with new data, looking up archives and “inspecting government documents. He’s close to Fred Durant (of the old Robertson panel) and his contemporaries.

He’s uncovered a third official trail into the secret UFO project through Charles Bowsher, Comptroller General of the United States under President Reagan from 1981 to 1996.

He may be one of the four “iron posts” beyond Sheehan and Wilson. Bowsher found a crashed UFO program during a massive audit of classified projects: “Less than a handful of officials knew about it.” In the period 1984-85, Bowsher uncovered a bizarre special access program coverup which surely violated every classification, executive order, regulation, and Congressional rule. They contemplated turning it over to Justice for prosecution, but “a powerful person in DoD quenched it.” The program, according to the reviewers, had to do with an exotic, non-Earthly vehicle.""

 

[SiamSam]

""It was Charles Bowsher Comptroller General of the United States under President Reagan from 1981 to 1996 that was the one doing the audit that almost blew the lid off the program.

In Jacques Vallee’s book Forbidden Science 5 he states ““Hummingbird. Friday 24 September 2004. Jim Westwood, in Virginia, has come up with new data, looking up archives and “inspecting government documents. He’s close to Fred Durant (of the old Robertson panel) and his contemporaries.

He’s uncovered a third official trail into the secret UFO project through Charles Bowsher, Comptroller General of the United States under President Reagan from 1981 to 1996.

He may be one of the four “iron posts” beyond Sheehan and Wilson. Bowsher found a crashed UFO program during a massive audit of classified projects: “Less than a handful of officials knew about it.” In the period 1984-85, Bowsher uncovered a bizarre special access program coverup which surely violated every classification, executive order, regulation, and Congressional rule. They contemplated turning it over to Justice for prosecution, but “a powerful person in DoD quenched it.” The program, according to the reviewers, had to do with an exotic, non-Earthly vehicle.""

Could have been a weather balloon or spent elephant prophylactic.....

 

[TomH]

Could have been a weather balloon or spent elephant prophylactic.....

Light from Venus, dispersed by swamp gas.

 

[Observer]

his latest video was made private, trying to figure out why, it did involve china.....curiously...

 

[Observer]

UK MoD sent two intelligence officials to classified Pentagon UFO summit

EXCLUSIVE: The UK MoD sent two intelligence officials to a top-secret Pentagon summit despite defence officials closing the UFO desk in 2009 insisting it was a waste of money.

www.express.co.uk

 

[Observer]

""There were three crashes at Kingman. Rough timeline is this, allegedly:

Operation upshot-knothole was launching high explosives and nukes from May 15-25.

Many people reported UFOs dancing in the skies during this period.

On May 19 the 'dirty Harry' bomb was detonated. It was far larger than expected, and caused significant contamination for the down winders.

This is where the saucer craft has a forced landing, near Kingman. It was retrieved on the 21st by an m25 tank transporter, over the Colorado River and eventually passing through a few afbs before ending up at Wright-Patterson. Allegedly, it was retrofitted as a flight simulator for USAF test pilots who train to fly other landed craft.

But a second elongated tear shaped craft crashed near Red Lake, North of Kingman. It was partially destroyed. Crashed. There is evidence of military action there, with rations and garbage from 53 still being found at the site.

The third crash happened on haulapi mountain on May 24. Witnesses saw a fireball crash into the mountain. Fire fighting crews were dispatched, and noticed two or three disoriented and partially burnt 'strange looking' people.

There are two variations from here. Newspapers I've read indicate three people, one of which died in the ambulance were taken to a hospital. The other account says that the two survivors were arrested on suspicion of arson, and kept in the courthouse basement jail, where they mysteriously escaped. Though, the courthouse jail wasn't built until later, so I have many doubts on this variation of the story."""

 

[Observer]

""wonder if the EMP from the nuclear weapons tested brought the UFOs down? There is talk of a UFO brought down due to the Starfish Prime atmospheric nuclear tests, Bluegill shot in particular.""

 

[Observer]

https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/Z3u3gr5Ne3

 

[Observer]

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[Observer]

They create gravity waves and ride it like surfing.

How exactly?


Thomas Townsend Brown....knew/figured it out I bet...





There's a paper called "the minor quantum", he wrote, you can't find it.

But you can easily find the one he wrote after, called "the structure of space".

 

[SpectrumFarms]

I whole heartedly believe we are not alone in this universe. I witness a UFO when I was 14 and uprooted my beliefs. I do think we spend too much time looking in space and not enough time looking in our own oceans. Only 10% mapped and 5% explored, we are still at the starting line. I also can go down my rabbit hole of the human perception and how much we can’t observe what is going on around us. So many questions…

 

[Observer]

I whole heartedly believe we are not alone in this universe. I witness a UFO when I was 14 and uprooted my beliefs. I do think we spend too much time looking in space and not enough time looking in our own oceans. Only 10% mapped and 5% explored, we are still at the starting line. I also can go down my rabbit hole of the human perception and how much we can’t observe what is going on around us. So many questions…

well, i can tell you we definitely are not, i just can not provide evidence.


i think it would be silly to think this one marble out of a trillion+, only this one can harbor life?

no way.

"theres literally everything in space, morty"

 

[Observer]

there is a shit-ton of other species and civilization's out there.

 

[Observer]

another mindfuck too is that its possible theres humans on another solar system out there too......