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Aliens and UFOs/UAPs

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I wrote this for one of the alternative history or high strangeness subs a while back, but you may appreciate it too,

I don't think the Germans made die glocke themselves. It was allegedly a bell shaped device depicted with a swastika* on the side and some kind of nondescript "occult symbols" around the skirt. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Glocke_(conspiracy_theory) I think there's a decent chance it's real and that the relic was part of a vimāna (maybe a power source), recovered archeologically during one of those SS expeditions in the 1930s that inspired Indiana Jones adventures.

The Germans thought they were descended from a long lost ancient global super civilization, Atlantis stuff, and they
spent real resources trying to find evidence of it archeologically. I think they really thought they could find part of a vimana to reverse engineer and that's where The Bell enters the story. They could have looted it from a ruined temple where it had been preserved for ages as a holy relic by monks that didn't understand what it really was, or they could have recovered it from a collapsed tibetan cave, something like that. There have long been rumors that some recovered UFOs are archeological, something like this scenario could be the source for those stories.

Later, after the war I suspect it was captured by the allies and quietly spirited away to the United States along with a bunch of other German equipment and scientists to continue their work to reverse engineer the device, because later still at a place called Kecksburg Pennsylvania a UFO that made several course changes crashed in the woods outside of town. Very shortly after, a group of soldiers arrived, formed a perimeter and hauled the thing out on a flatbed truck, but before that happened some locals got a look at the device and described it as acorn shaped, with "alien" hieroglyphics around the rim. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kecksburg_UFO_incident

Compare the images on the two wiki pages above, the devices depicted are suspiciously, even cartoonishly similar, no? Perhaps those "alien hieroglyphics" reported in so many cases, from Rendlesham to Roswell, are actually some kind of ancient language like the indus valley script which almost nobody outside of a very narrow slice of academia would recognize today. One more thing, die glocke the nazi bell is depicted with a swastika prominently displayed on the side, which gives the impression that the Germans made it, however, the swastika also just happens to be one of the 400+ characters in the indus valley script, and in this case may simply be an ancient invocation of good luck on a potentially hazardous device, kind of like a yellow danger sign on heavy machinery, or maybe more like when Chick-fil-A prints Bible verses on their fry containers.

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Indus script - Wikipedia

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Edit, ignoring the alleged inner workings, the fluxliner ARV's outward appearance looks like it could be a reverse engineered US made version of the device. https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/OUct4z8V0f

Edit 2, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vimana

*A note on the swastika symbol itself, it's found all over the ancient world, from a 14k year old mammoth ivory carving found in Ukraine, to a 6k year old cave painting in North America. The Navajo called it whirling logs, and it represented luck and victory, it meant more or less the same thing to the buddists too. I think that Nazis thought the symbol was evidence, a remnant of the global super civilization (atlantis/mu/lemuria or whatever you want to call it) that got passed down through time to all these seemingly separate groups all over the world and chose it for themselves in an attempt to connect themselves to the past.""
 
Didn’t the US or German bell use mercury as well or am I mixing up the bell and a small craft?
 
Zen_seeker said:
Didn’t the US or German bell use mercury as well or am I mixing up the bell and a small craft?
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Yes


The nazis die glocke

And Indian vimanas from the sanskrit epics.
Talk about mercury vortex engines.
Ancient flying machines.

That's always in the back of my mind. Further study warranted perhaps.

There's some videos on YouTube that run electricity through mercury and it spins?

Aren't these similarities peculiar?

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Observer said:
From plasma research, to quantum consciousness, then back to UFOs.
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At our thanksgiving in October my wife and buddy were smoking the pipe with me and we saw two things flying around like that. Way high up on two nights in a row.

I looked online the next day but didn’t find anything about it. All together we’ve seen it a few times last year. We stay indoors all winter so between spring and fall.

Can’t say what it was/is but it’s not small drones or planes. Doesn’t have the right lights.
 
Pipecarver said:
It was found in the Jungle near Buga Columbia?? I thinks. I watched the Mexican scientist tests on it and there's no consensus on its origin or age....
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They said the place but was it dug out, just laying on the earth or in a structure or cave?

At least no one’s stolen it yet. Sounds like fake cops tried and failed.
 
Pipecarver said:
It was found in the Jungle near Buga Columbia?? I thinks. I watched the Mexican scientist tests on it and there's no consensus on its origin or age....
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Red mercury

Thanks to AI it's hard to know what's real anymore but supposedly they x-rayed that orb and there was something really interesting in it, if I see the article again I'll post it
 
Pipecarver said:
It was found in the Jungle near Buga Columbia?? I thinks. I watched the Mexican scientist tests on it and there's no consensus on its origin or age....
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Red mercury

Thanks to AI it's hard to know what's real anymore but supposedly they x-rayed that orb and there was something really interesting in it, don't know how to describe it, a weird octopus maybe, if I see the article again I'll post it
 
Pipecarver said:
It was found in the Jungle near Buga Columbia?? I thinks. I watched the Mexican scientist tests on it and there's no consensus on its origin or age....
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I think that Jaime maussan guy is a fraud.

I was following along the buga sphere story but I'm skeptical on that one.
 
Beachwalker said:
Red mercury

Thanks to AI it's hard to know what's real anymore but supposedly they x-rayed that orb and there was something really interesting in it, don't know how to describe it, a weird octopus maybe, if I see the article again I'll post it
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collective-spark.xyz

MIT X-Ray Reveals Buga Sphere’s Advanced Internal Structure

MIT’s X-ray exposes 18 microspheres, 52 fiber strands, and a 12,560-year-old core inside the Buga Sphere—technology far ahead of its time.
collective-spark.xyz collective-spark.xyz
 
Zen_seeker said:
They said the place but was it dug out, just laying on the earth or in a structure or cave?

At least no one’s stolen it yet. Sounds like fake cops tried and failed.
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They watched it hit power lines while flying then watched it land after a electrical discharge...Its in the hands of the private sector not with the military otherwise we'd never know about it. Seems legit to me but I smoke pot so I'm easily impressed with flying orbs
 
Observer said:
Yes


The nazis die glocke

And Indian vimanas from the sanskrit epics.
Talk about mercury vortex engines.
Ancient flying machines.

That's always in the back of my mind. Further study warranted perhaps.

There's some videos on YouTube that run electricity through mercury and it spins?

Aren't these similarities peculiar?

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here it is

PASSING DC THROUGH LIQUID MERCURY


  • Liquid mercury is a metallic conductor.
  • DC current causes normal ohmic conduction and heating.
  • If a magnetic field is present, Lorentz forces occur (J × B).
  • These forces can drive fluid motion and vortices.
  • This is standard magnetohydrodynamics (MHD).
  • Used in liquid-metal pumps and experimental cooling systems.

MERCURY VORTEX ENGINES
What can happen:
  • Current + magnetic field can rotate liquid mercury.
  • Stable vortices can form.
  • Angular momentum can be transferred mechanically.
  • Acts like an electromagnetic pump or motor.
What cannot happen:
  • No reactionless thrust.
  • No antigravity or gravity shielding.
  • No spacetime effects.
  • Conservation laws are not violated.
  • MHD-driven vortices can store large angular momentum.
  • Energy can be injected electromagnetically with no moving parts.
  • Relevant to generators, fusion research, and plasma analog studies.
  • Liquid metals act as dense, low-temperature plasma analogs.
beyond this chatgpt summing it up, i dont know what else is there, right off the bat.
maybe theres something to it, maybe not really.
 
UAPgerb on youtube has DEEP dives into these programs.

That lays everything out and exactly who/what organizations do/did what.
 
QuadraCore Fusion Tokamak Design.

Just rambling, this is related because of the energy aspect.

Modern day tokamaks use 1 central solenoid to control plasma current

Why not 4 solenoids, in a quadrupolar config

That design offers more stability and control

Any plasma physicists here? Lol

I've been interested in energy generation since I was a teen

Self-sustaining, renewable and ecologically friendly unlimited "clean" energy.

Use to start to think maybe it's not possible, maybe we are locked here, but UFOs prove that's not the case and that it IS possible.

Answers some "life" questions like "are we alone?"



And then the idea or possible fact that some of them don't even have "engines"....

"Consciously" "powered"

wtf?
 
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I've had this "thing" stuck in my head since I've done DMT

I've correlated it to a blueprint, or a concept, a Design.

Only way to verify is to dive-in and try it.
Get simulation software and test it.

Thinking on how I can make a tabletop scale prototype for a self-containing plasma energy device that one can extract energy from.
 
Observer said:
I've had this "thing" stuck in my head since I've done DMT

I've correlated it to a blueprint, or a concept, a Design.

Only way to verify is to dive-in and try it.
Get simulation software and test it.

Thinking on how I can make a tabletop scale prototype for a self-containing plasma energy device that one can extract energy from.
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Do it! If you make clean energy don’t patent it or you’ll disappear!! The gubment don’t like anything that could fook up the economy. But it wouldn’t because everyone would be richer! I wish I was that smart haha. I’m pretty good with bun chucks tho…
 
Observer said:
The Thirst For Knlowedge & Answers Continue...
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I saw the Matrix in 1968, I'd done acid a few times by then but this one time I saw code in everything. We were in a park and there were numbers, letters and odd symbols that made everything, park benches, trees, baseball dugouts, backstops, all numbers and letters I didn't know what it was at the time, there were no computers. It wasn't until much later I realized what I'd seen. I remember trying to explain it while high that night but it didn't make sense....Just saying I've seen the Matrix believe it or not....
 
Pipecarver said:
I saw the Matrix in 1968, I'd done acid a few times by then but this one time I saw code in everything. We were in a park and there were numbers, letters and odd symbols that made everything, park benches, trees, baseball dugouts, backstops, all numbers and letters I didn't know what it was at the time, there were no computers. It wasn't until much later I realized what I'd seen. I remember trying to explain it while high that night but it didn't make sense....Just saying I've seen the Matrix believe it or not....
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I did acid once and we were in the woods. We ran into a big herd of deer while peaking. Then for the next several hours I was seeing deer everywhere. In trees, bushes, rocks etc. my mind was just making everything deer faces. It was a trip.

Speaking of acid stories; one time I had some very, very strong acid. I did three tabs and needed a cigarette bad. I went into 7/11 and grabbed a pack from behind the counter(I had no money). I figured if I don’t have a cig I would lose my mind. I got in a fight with some dude and had a psychic moment and told him to stop beating his wife(who was the counter lady). I later found out he was really beating his wife! They called the cops and I wrestled three or four cops and they maced me and shackled me and threw me in the cop car. Ended up in the hospital where they gave me something that brought me down real quick. I remember saying horrible stuff to my folks like I was possessed or something. I couldn’t control my words, they were just coming out of me. I was like fighting for my soul. It was not a good time. I was sixteen or seventeen. Full of teenage insecurities, competitiveness and craving nicotine and having a terrible trip haha. Anyway sorry for the UFO thread derailment.
 
Observer said:
I've had this "thing" stuck in my head since I've done DMT

I've correlated it to a blueprint, or a concept, a Design.

Only way to verify is to dive-in and try it.
Get simulation software and test it.

Thinking on how I can make a tabletop scale prototype for a self-containing plasma energy device that one can extract energy from.
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Make a mini dysons sphere.

As a teen I thought of ways to try and make one. Problem was the container.

No one looking into cold fusion anymore?
 
Zen_seeker said:
Make a mini dysons sphere.
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Oo gives me more thoughts tho.


Perhaps it's not needed because of whatever the fuck "zero-point" energy could be?

Which as i understand is;
space, all around us, is/in a "field" the entire universe is a electromagnetic field space is not "empty".

the definition of zero-point is:

"Zero-point energy (ZPE) is the residual vibrational energy that molecules and atoms retain even at absolute zero temperature.

In quantum mechanics, the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle prevents a system from having both perfectly defined position and momentum.

As a result:
A quantum system cannot have zero total energy
The lowest possible energy state is the zero-point energy"

And this can be "tapped" into, and extracted for "energy"


Zen_seeker said:
As a teen I thought of ways to try and make one. Problem was the container.

No one looking into cold fusion anymore?
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Room temperature fusion?
Looked into the concept since my teens, I think it's still on the board.....oh wait a minute....correlation....it went completely silent, as in it went dark.....another tech swept away under black projects/SAPs, special access programs.

Are you familiar or aware of Lockheed Martin announcing a compact fusion device that would come to market "soon"? It was like 10-15 years ago, I can find mentions of it probably, but yea....that went "dark" too....
 
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Oo gives me more thoughts tho.


Perhaps it's not needed because of whatever the fuck "zero-point" energy could be?

Which as i understand is;
space, all around us, is/in a "field" the entire universe is a electromagnetic field space is not "empty".

the definition of zero-point is:

"Zero-point energy (ZPE) is the residual vibrational energy that molecules and atoms retain even at absolute zero temperature.

In quantum mechanics, the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle prevents a system from having both perfectly defined position and momentum.

As a result:
A quantum system cannot have zero total energy
The lowest possible energy state is the zero-point energy"

And this can be "tapped" into, and extracted for "energy"



Room temperature fusion?
Looked into the concept since my teens, I think it's still on the board.....oh wait a minute....correlation....it went completely silent, as in it went dark.....another tech swept away under black projects/SAPs, special access programs.

Are you familiar or aware of Lockheed Martin announcing a compact fusion device that would come to market "soon"? It was like 10-15 years ago, I can find mentions of it probably, but yea....that went "dark" too....
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""To add: the point of 'zero-point energy' is that it's the lowest amount of energy a system - say a particle in a box - can have, and that it's more than 0. That BY DEFINITION means it's impossible to extract energy from that system: it can't go any lower, so you can't harvest any from it.""

But I'm not sure that's completely true.

currently, to keep it short, the universe is a electromagnetic "bubble", it's everywhere.
It can be "extracted" from
Is this true reality? I can't confirm, I don't know. But I can see answers, ask questions, & try to experiment.

everything me and you have access to is , only "public' knowledge.

0 access to "classified" "databases"
 
Observer said:
""To add: the point of 'zero-point energy' is that it's the lowest amount of energy a system - say a particle in a box - can have, and that it's more than 0. That BY DEFINITION means it's impossible to extract energy from that system: it can't go any lower, so you can't harvest any from it.""

But I'm not sure that's completely true.

currently, to keep it short, the universe is a electromagnetic "bubble", it's everywhere.
It can be "extracted" from
Is this true reality? I can't confirm, I don't know. But I can see answers, ask questions, & try to experiment.

everything me and you have access to is , only "public' knowledge.

0 access to "classified" "databases"
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Strange how we were closer to resolving these things in the 60’s, then the 90’s, and then poof. Forgotten or buried.

To dangerous for the public? Protecting the local or global economy? Protecting a few of the rich that would be greatly impacted, again?

🤦
 

Observer said:
""To add: the point of 'zero-point energy' is that it's the lowest amount of energy a system - say a particle in a box - can have, and that it's more than 0. That BY DEFINITION means it's impossible to extract energy from that system: it can't go any lower, so you can't harvest any from it.""

But I'm not sure that's completely true.

currently, to keep it short, the universe is a electromagnetic "bubble", it's everywhere.
It can be "extracted" from
Is this true reality? I can't confirm, I don't know. But I can see answers, ask questions, & try to experiment.

everything me and you have access to is , only "public' knowledge.

0 access to "classified" "databases"
Click to expand...
"Quantum field theory shows that empty space is not truly empty. Instead, the universe is filled everywhere with fundamental quantum fields, each corresponding to a type of particle. What we call a particle, such as an electron or photon, is actually a localized excitation—a tiny ripple—within its underlying field. The electron field exists everywhere, and an electron appears when that field is disturbed in a specific way.

This framework explains why particles of the same type are perfectly identical and why interactions occur through field-mediated processes rather than direct contact. Forces arise from fields exchanging energy and momentum, and even the vacuum exhibits measurable effects, such as quantum fluctuations and virtual particles. Quantum field theory unifies special relativity with quantum mechanics and underpins the Standard Model of particle physics.

Understanding particles as field excitations reframes matter itself as dynamic structure rather than solid substance, revealing that the universe’s most basic reality is a continuous, interacting network of invisible quantum fields."

Physical Review Letters, Nature Physics, Quantum Field Theory Standard Model Literature
 
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