Art of the Cure

[2Bad]

Another thing I did was shake the bags so there wasnt any air gaps in between the buds. Hey not trying to convince you just saying it worked for me.

 

[Rootsruler]

I did a side by side cure with the normal 2.5 gal glass jar with boveda and a groove bag.

I'm using both side by side now.

I prefer the jar. I know I am somewhat alone here and that groove has taken the cure market by storm. My issue is that the stuff in the bag is too dry. Crumbly dry. I left the groove bag in my admittedly dry basement for a month and a half unopened.

I think it may have worked better with a higher RH in the basement, but with glass I don't care what time of year or what the RH is to cure properly. I'm going back to jars personally.

My reasons for staying in glass jars are more for personal reasons rather than performance.

IMO, Grove bags are good when you have excess and you want to do long term storage without having to check on them every few days. My personal reason is that I barely get it cured before the GF raids the jars........

 

[Observer]

vaping some fresh flower can be a pleasant and very tasty experiance!

I'll have to try this more

 

[Observer]

I smoke flowers and rosin these days. Used to do BHO but since rosin came along I'm all about solventless extraction.
I added a freeze dry technique to my rosin routine for a live resin type of extraction. Very solid results with a dewaxed blonde crumble

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That's about as fresh I'll go but I'll squish flowers into rosin anywhere from when it's dry and ready to cure to months after harvest.
Be it Grove or Boveda, I've never had an issue with getting too dry so I'm not sure why aging dries out weed for so many. Like for the buds above, there's no way I could dry sift them right now since they're like dry sponge. I'd have to let them sit out and get brittle before I rubbed or tumbled them. Even if I put them in a grinder they'll gum up the grinder with too much sticky residue so I have to hand grind.
I quit burping a long time ago when I was into another type of container using a dialed in dry, Boveda packs, and vacuum sealing. That was a pretty good cure but tedious compared to just dropping the buds in a bag.
The only real major difference for me extracting cured compared to fresh is the terp profiles. Fresh tends to be pungent and hashy while cured tends to be floral or fruity incense but potency of the high between the two is not much of a difference.
The flower smoke is similar in terp profile difference but the high from the cure is much heavier, longer lasting, and I can usually only get thru half a joint before I'm too baked to continue but can smoke a whole joint of fresh dried weed ez.




They don't need to be heat sealed but they do need to be closed up tight with minimal head space and dead air in the bag.
I tend to stuff mine, zip up to almost closed, press a little to push air out, then zip up all the way and don't open for at least 3 weeks. A small tester bag is a nice option for peek a boo while waiting and it will tell you what's going on with the other bags too.
I think what I like most about Grove or Boveda is their ability to correct the dryness. It's better to overdry a little then let the bag or pack work to bring it up slowly IME. There's been many times where I cure buds that are very brittle and fragile going in but after at least 3 weeks in locked up RH control they have that nice slow burn and dry sponge texture where you squeeze and they give a little but will not crumble apart.

I'm also fairly certain my cure fridge plays a huge roll working with the gas exchange of RH controllers. It maintains a 63% RH so for these bags to exchange gas at 55%-62%, the RH of the fridge is as close to ideal as it gets and the bags don't have to work too hard on the adjustment.

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Root beer?

 

[TSD]

I've watched those videos. My first question about static tech is what sort of work survace can be used. I see it always done on a 25m nylon screen. If I use a 160m tumbler for the initial seperation, and spred that out on my glass worktop, ..... I don't have any success. I'm guessing it has to do with the glass, but then I'll try to get static tech while the sift is on a 90m nylon screen and still can't get the DVD or paint roller to work. I've got some latex gloves around here somewhere, so perhaps I'll break up some buds and trry again. But does the work surface matter? Does it need to be conductive? And how about RH? Isn't the lower the better for static tech?

I think it must matter, because you can't do static tech without static, and you have to have friction of some kind to make static... glass doesn't offer much friction. I did it on the final screen, plenty of static. I also did it on the porch in winter. The DVD case did not work nearly as well as the paint roller with the glove condom. You can clearly see the line of good stuff and the debris behind... going in one direction only w the roller is a must.

 

[Observer]

I smoke flowers and rosin these days. Used to do BHO but since rosin came along I'm all about solventless extraction.
I added a freeze dry technique to my rosin routine for a live resin type of extraction. Very solid results with a dewaxed blonde crumble

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That's about as fresh I'll go but I'll squish flowers into rosin

Alright, I'm busting out the hair straightener.

 

[Bandit420]

Another thing I did was shake the bags so there wasnt any air gaps in between the buds. Hey not trying to convince you just saying it worked for me.

I press air out of mine too. Not 100% but yeah minimal air inside. I don't stuff my buds and pack them in tight but they are so close they're on the brink of being crushed against each other.
Are you working with the original black Groves or the newer style they call "velvet soft touch - child resistant" with the graphics and stuff?

I find the velvet bags have the better zipper and it's deeper down in the bag. The plastic is thicker too. Overall more of a heavy duty bag. The type of zipper in there is why I don't heat seal. That thing is so tough trying to unzip I'm often nervous I'll tear it apart

 

[TSD]

I press air out of mine too. Not 100% but yeah minimal air inside. I don't stuff my buds and pack them in tight but they are so close they're on the brink of being crushed against each other.
Are you working with the original black Groves or the newer style they call "velvet soft touch - child resistant" with the graphics and stuff?

I find the velvet bags have the better zipper and it's deeper down in the bag. The plastic is thicker too. Overall more of a heavy duty bag. The type of zipper in there is why I don't heat seal. That thing is so tough trying to unzip I'm often nervous I'll tear it apart

Seriously, they could give you more than an inch of extra plastic... but they wanna sell more bags obviously. I prefer the velvet style too, seem higher quality over all. I'll be due for new bags this fall, used mine for two years. Using jars just isn't practical for me, considering I grow all m smoke for the year in one shebang. I still use jars for a head jar of each strain.

 

[TSD]

Also, I've definitely ripped a zipper clean off pulling on the wrong part. Stoner moment.

 

[2Bad]

I press air out of mine too. Not 100% but yeah minimal air inside. I don't stuff my buds and pack them in tight but they are so close they're on the brink of being crushed against each other.
Are you working with the original black Groves or the newer style they call "velvet soft touch - child resistant" with the graphics and stuff?

I find the velvet bags have the better zipper and it's deeper down in the bag. The plastic is thicker too. Overall more of a heavy duty bag. The type of zipper in there is why I don't heat seal. That thing is so tough trying to unzip I'm often nervous I'll tear it apart

I have the shiny black ones. I don't mind it at all it is a lil thin a sharp stem could def poke a hole in them. But I love to set n forget

 

[Observer]

Alright, I'm busting out the hair straightener.

Alright, I got some.


Lol

 

[Observer]

This heart from straightener pressing.

Lol