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BlueCollarBob- Bumbling Through My First Grow

Collected cattails to make fermented plant juice last weekend:

Cattails Inspector
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Cleaned cattails befor chopping
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I used 4lbs of chopped cattails and 4lbs of brown sugar. I ended up with about 1.25 quarts of FPJ. 1:1 may have been strong on brown sugar. It didn't take much to to super saturate and make shelf stable. Here's a pic right after super saturating with brown sugar.
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Random pics from this morning:

Morning mushrooms
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Butter Waves from above
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Jet Fuel Odder Popz wants to go wide
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I hope to do some low stress training and maybe some fimming this evening.
 
BlueCollarBob said:
Collected cattails to make fermented plant juice last weekend:

Cattails Inspector
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Cleaned cattails befor chopping
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I used 4lbs of chopped cattails and 4lbs of brown sugar. I ended up with about 1.25 quarts of FPJ. 1:1 may have been strong on brown sugar. It didn't take much to to super saturate and make shelf stable. Here's a pic right after super saturating with brown sugar.
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Random pics from this morning:

Morning mushrooms
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Butter Waves from above
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Jet Fuel Odder Popz wants to go wide
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I hope to do some low stress training and maybe some fimming this evening.
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You ever ate a cattail? Cleaned like that they are edible and reminiscent of a cucumber.
 
CannaGranny said:
You ever ate a cattail? Cleaned like that they are edible and reminiscent of a cucumber.
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I have read that they are edible, but never tried it. Knowing they aren't poisonous was one of the reasons selected cattails to try making FPJ. The smell of the nasty pond water in the roots turned me off, but they did smell crisp and clean when I pulled the hearts out of the stalks. I can get the cucumber comparison from the smell. Maybe next time I'll try it.
 
BlueCollarBob said:
I have read that they are edible, but never tried it. Knowing they aren't poisonous was one of the reasons selected cattails to try making FPJ. The smell of the nasty pond water in the roots turned me off, but they did smell crisp and clean when I pulled the hearts out of the stalks. I can get the cucumber comparison from the smell. Maybe next time I'll try it.
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Look into using banana peels. šŸ™‚
 
BlueCollarBob said:
That's for when in flower, right?

PS- Your topping and fimming video that @GoodShit97 pointed me to was perfectly done.
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I've seen it used through both processes. Iā€™ve never used it. I use seaweed and kelp and worm castings. I also use Dr Earths Flower Girl. Itā€™s all organic too.
Thanks for the kind words on the vid. Was so much easier to show someone than to tell them šŸ™‚
 
BlueCollarBob said:
Collected cattails to make fermented plant juice last weekend:

Cattails Inspector
View attachment 62914

Cleaned cattails befor chopping
View attachment 62918

I used 4lbs of chopped cattails and 4lbs of brown sugar. I ended up with about 1.25 quarts of FPJ. 1:1 may have been strong on brown sugar. It didn't take much to to super saturate and make shelf stable. Here's a pic right after super saturating with brown sugar.
View attachment 62922

Random pics from this morning:

Morning mushrooms
View attachment 62923

Butter Waves from above
View attachment 62924

Jet Fuel Odder Popz wants to go wide
View attachment 62925

I hope to do some low stress training and maybe some fimming this evening.
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Ya the fpj takes a little less sugar most of the time to render liquid 2/3 to half the wieght of material seems like the sweeter something is the more sugar it takes to get the fermented liquid. The fermented fruit juices usualy always use 1 to 1 sugur to material.some plants don't give up any liquid at all.for example cannabiss is like this, yarrow also.when I want to ferment a plant I know dosnt give out much liquid I mix it with comphrey half and half then do my ferment. that way the comphrey, that produces allot, jump starts the fermentation and osmotic pressure of the extraction,and I can get the hormones and nutrients I was after better than just using the low yielding plant by itself. Don't use pineapple it will fry your plants.pineapple is the only fruit I was warned not to use.looking great
 
BlueCollarBob said:
Thanks for the feedback @Rootsruler. I thought the plants were drooping because I took the pics at dusk. They've been reaching for the sky when the sun is up. What are the signs of heat stress? Do you have any recommendations on what I should be doing to help with that?
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If those were morning shots then you're good. I've noticed right before lights on or if otudoors at dawn the leaves will be droopy.
 
stonemason said:
Ya the fpj takes a little less sugar most of the time to render liquid 2/3 to half the wieght of material seems like the sweeter something is the more sugar it takes to get the fermented liquid. The fermented fruit juices usualy always use 1 to 1 sugur to material.some plants don't give up any liquid at all.for example cannabiss is like this, yarrow also.when I want to ferment a plant I know dosnt give out much liquid I mix it with comphrey half and half then do my ferment. that way the comphrey, that produces allot, jump starts the fermentation and osmotic pressure of the extraction,and I can get the hormones and nutrients I was after better than just using the low yielding plant by itself. Don't use pineapple it will fry your plants.pineapple is the only fruit I was warned not to use.looking great
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Thanks. I really appreciate you sharing your experience with KNF. I'm digging it.
 
Had an unfortunate casualty in the garden. I don't kill these, but he was dead when I found him. He somehow managed to get his head through some bird mesh and became entangled. Impressive that he got in that far. I had to cut him out and it was tight, tight, tight.

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Been a little busy and haven't been spending time gardening as much as I'd like. I did do some FIMing a few days back, after being pointed to @CannaGranny's nice "how to" video. I suspect I need to get in there and clean things up some.

I also used a tow strap and some manual grunting to space out the plants a little better.

I have some tall stakes and netting that I plan to set up and provide some support for the three younger plants. It is too late for that with Butter Waves, I think. I may have to at a couple stakes to tie her off to, if it looks like she needs support. I can also probable rig something up overhead and drop support lines to tie her off.

Something has been chewing holes in some leaves. I looked around and found some small green worms that sorta resemble inch worms, but are something smaller. They remind me of the moth larva that chew on cabbages around here. Slurty 3 has the most leaf damage. Jet Fuel Odder Popz seems almost untouched. I gave them a good dousing with Neem Oil shortly before dusk. I hope that helps. I took these photos after spraying the Neem Oil:

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I have a compost tea brewing that will be ready tomorrow evening. They really seem to love this stuff:
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It has been super dry here. I bought a cheap 1HP pump at Harbor Freight that lets me pump water from the creek without worry about running the well dry. I just used that for the first time yesterday and the whole garden started perking up.
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Work looks to be a bitch through Wednesday, but I'll have some daylight in the evening to work on things. As always, glad to hear any recommendations from you guys. Hope everyone had a great holiday and the new week treats you well...
 
BlueCollarBob said:
Been a little busy and haven't been spending time gardening as much as I'd like. I did do some FIMing a few days back, after being pointed to @CannaGranny's nice "how to" video. I suspect I need to get in there and clean things up some.

I also used a tow strap and some manual grunting to space out the plants a little better.

I have some tall stakes and netting that I plan to set up and provide some support for the three younger plants. It is too late for that with Butter Waves, I think. I may have to at a couple stakes to tie her off to, if it looks like she needs support. I can also probable rig something up overhead and drop support lines to tie her off.

Something has been chewing holes in some leaves. I looked around and found some small green worms that sorta resemble inch worms, but are something smaller. They remind me of the moth larva that chew on cabbages around here. Slurty 3 has the most leaf damage. Jet Fuel Odder Popz seems almost untouched. I gave them a good dousing with Neem Oil shortly before dusk. I hope that helps. I took these photos after spraying the Neem Oil:

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I have a compost tea brewing that will be ready tomorrow evening. They really seem to love this stuff:
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It has been super dry here. I bought a cheap 1HP pump at Harbor Freight that lets me pump water from the creek without worry about running the well dry. I just used that for the first time yesterday and the whole garden started perking up.
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Work looks to be a bitch through Wednesday, but I'll have some daylight in the evening to work on things. As always, glad to hear any recommendations from you guys. Hope everyone had a great holiday and the new week treats you well...
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Looking fantastic! Thanks for sharing this with us!
 
Just finished feeding them some compost tea. Managed to find one of the little green worms munching on a leaf. I need to look it up and figure out what it takes to get rid of them.


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GoodShit97 said:
Captain Jacks DeadBug is my go to outside this year. View attachment 65014
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Perfect! I like that organic label. I'm pretty certain these worms are cabbage loopers. I've been using Monterey b.t. on my cabbages for those, but I'm nearly out. I'll look for Captain Jack's when I get to the store. Looks like it may be more broadly effective for some bugs that Monterey b.t. doesn't cover. Really appreciate the recommendation @GoodShit97 !

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Just a quick update:

The Monterey b.t. seems to have done the trick for the worms, but the moths are still in there. The little green bastards are probably laying eggs. I hit three stores looking for Captain Jack's Dead Bug, but they were all out of stock. I ordered some concentrate from amazon, but it's not due to arrive until 7/25. I gave the whole garden a good drench with Neem Oil this evening.

All things considered, and acknowledging that I know nothing, they seem pretty healthy. I measured Butter Waves and she has just cleared the six foot mark. I actually think the younger ones are growing faster, tho. I keep procrastinating, but intend to get some trellis netting in there this week.

Like a lot of people, we really need some rain here. Pumping water from the creek to water the plants is working well, but even the creek is drying up. I'm starting to get some anxiety (ya'll have any recommendations for that šŸ¤Ŗ) about the potential for our well to go dry. It hasn't happened before, but this is the driest I can recall. Come on rain...

Here's a crappy pic from mid-morning. Must have had something on my phone's lens:

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not sure if you're able to find thuricide BT that works great on worms and cats...

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Those borers will fuck ur shit all up, from experience lol.

Watch out for wpm too

Gotta have IPM esp outdoors, learned that the hardway my first and only outdoor grow so far lol.
 
Observer said:
Those borers will fuck ur shit all up, from experience lol.

Watch out for wpm too

Gotta have IPM esp outdoors, learned that the hardway my first and only outdoor grow so far lol.
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Honestly, other than fear of the unknown as a first time grower, the powdery mildew is my biggest worry. We shall see...
 
@TomH's post about his plant's super fast recovery when it got thirsty in a cloth bag got me to thinking about things I already expect to change when growing outdoors next year. I tried planting some squash in 7 gallon bags., this year. They dry out too quick. I go through the evening ritual of watering and bringing them back to life. The squash I planted in the ground have flourished.

The 100 gallon bags I have the cannabis in have enough volume to hold moisture pretty well. I'm happy with them, but think I'll go in the ground with next year. Partly for security. They've grown more than I imagined and are more visible from the road than I expected. I want to move them to a more private location, anyway.

Right now, I think I like the way this guy digs out and lines a hole before filling it with a living soil mix. The video should start where you can see layout without having to watch the video:

 
Pruning outdoor cannabis plants


  • Improved Air Circulation: Removing excess foliage enhances airflow, reducing the risk of mold and mildew.

  • Increased Light Penetration: By trimming leaves and branches, more light reaches lower parts of the plant, promoting even growth and better bud development.

  • Enhanced Bud Quality: Redirecting the plant's energy towards fewer, larger buds improves overall bud quality. except, you may not want larger buds in a higher RH environment, unless they are of the "airy" structure variety.

  • Controlled Growth: Pruning shapes the plant, maintaining desired size and shape, crucial in limited outdoor space.

  • Disease Prevention: Removing crowded areas reduces pest and disease risks, facilitating early detection and treatment.

  • Harvest Timing: Pruning influences harvest timing, optimizing yield and cannabinoid production.

  • Training Techniques: Combined with topping or low-stress training (LST), pruning promotes higher yields and canopy uniformity.

  • Aesthetic Appeal: Well-pruned plants look neater and more visually appealing, ideal for discreet outdoor cultivation.
 
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