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Why is that? Biological or chemicals added?
It's because of all the TDS in the well water. The higher that is, the less time the membrane will last. Typical city water is around 300 ppm. Our well water is 8-900 ppm and un-usable in hydro. I think @smoke has well water over 2000 :oops:
 
It's because of all the TDS in the well water. The higher that is, the less time the membrane will last. Typical city water is around 300 ppm. Our well water is 8-900 ppm and un-usable in hydro. I think @smoke has well water over 2000 :oops:
Thanks, that’s nuts. Never thought about it.
 
Mrs SweetLeaf snapped a couple of photos yesterday of these girls. Pretty happy so far with the xxl Scrog, except'n the one front left, seems a bit lanky still and an obvious different pheno from the others but thinking she will catch up fine.

Will do one more major defoliation when I get home tomorrow and it's looking like the fun is about to begin!

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Did a bit more defoliation on these gals and chugging along, full on blossom mode. Interesting to see the different phenotypes, one is lanky but looking good, another is one of those tricksters trying to fool me to thinking she’s N deficient but I ain’t fooled this time, she darkens in after a few days. The other odd thing about that one is she is throwing some freakish fans out, never really seen that before.

Other than that,res is stable, running around 420 ppm’s.


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Did a bit more defoliation on these gals and chugging along, full on blossom mode. Interesting to see the different phenotypes, one is lanky but looking good, another is one of those tricksters trying to fool me to thinking she’s N deficient but I ain’t fooled this time, she darkens in after a few days. The other odd thing about that one is she is throwing some freakish fans out, never really seen that before.

Other than that,res is stable, running around 420 ppm’s.


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Interesting mutation
 
Interesting mutation
Agreed. If you look close in one of those photos, you can see the plant that's doing it and there are quite a few that you can see that I left on the stems. None of the other 3 plants are doing this and I've never seen anything quite like that.
 
Did a bit more defoliation on these gals and chugging along, full on blossom mode. Interesting to see the different phenotypes, one is lanky but looking good, another is one of those tricksters trying to fool me to thinking she’s N deficient but I ain’t fooled this time, she darkens in after a few days. The other odd thing about that one is she is throwing some freakish fans out, never really seen that before.

Other than that,res is stable, running around 420 ppm’s.


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I have actually seen this before, but ya best keep a keen eye on it!
 
I remember first reading about polyploids back in the 80s~! I believe it is explained in Ed Rosenthal's grower's bible.
Ed's book explained how to do it with crushed plant bulbs I believe as a catalyst.
Colchicine, in the form of the autumn crocus (Colchicum autumnale), has been used as early as 1500 BC to treat joint swelling.[9] It was approved for medical use in the United States in 1961.[1]
Taken from; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colchicine
The production of tetraploid plant was improved with colchicine at different concentrations and time through dropping method. Flow cytometry analysis was used to confirm the ploidy level. Morphologic, anatomic and biochemical characteristics were compared between tetraploid and diploid control plants. The results showed that 0.2% colchicine for 24 h was the most efficient for production of polyploid plants. The percentage of tetraploid plants and the survival rate were lowered by the increasing the treatment time.
Taken from; https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-319-54564-6_17
 
Agreed. If you look close in one of those photos, you can see the plant that's doing it and there are quite a few that you can see that I left on the stems. None of the other 3 plants are doing this and I've never seen anything quite like that.
I've seen it before, I thought it was from pushing the light limits. really not sure though.
 
Man my city water is like 300-350 and I thought that was crazy, but 1k, 2k? that's absolute insanity. BIL's water up in Sac is like 50PPMs, but the PH is fucked, 9.5 last time we checked.

Those girls are going to be massive man.
 
Man my city water is like 300-350 and I thought that was crazy, but 1k, 2k? that's absolute insanity. BIL's water up in Sac is like 50PPMs, but the PH is fucked, 9.5 last time we checked.

Those girls are going to be massive man.
Yeah, no way that works with hydro. You might be able to get away with it on a soil grow, but even then I think I would still use an RO.

I think my wife would go insane trying to keep the shower doors clean. Insaner?

I'd be curious to know what makes up that 1K+? Probably lots of calcium. If there is sodium in there, that's a big problem for any plants other than mangroves, but they don't smoke as nice as weed IME. I'd stick with RO and cannabis personally.
 
Did a bit more defoliation on these gals and chugging along, full on blossom mode. Interesting to see the different phenotypes, one is lanky but looking good, another is one of those tricksters trying to fool me to thinking she’s N deficient but I ain’t fooled this time, she darkens in after a few days. The other odd thing about that one is she is throwing some freakish fans out, never really seen that before.

Other than that,res is stable, running around 420 ppm’s.


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They lookin THICK lol. She is so happy she is growing leaves on her leaves :D.
 
They lookin THICK lol. She is so happy she is growing leaves on her leaves :D.
Thanks man, yea, coming along nicely. It's a trip because I recently picked up more hours at work so I am away from home 4 days a week now and @MrsSweetLeaf has been doing a marvelous job taking care of the plants when I am gone. I've taught her how to read the water and add or subtract from the nutrient levels as needed. I still need to teach her how to do a res change but by the time we do that, she will already have the basics down and it will mainly be the mechanics of getting all the water in and out of the system that she needs to learn, piece of cake there.

I do need to teach her some pruning, defoliation, etc but for now, I've been able to keep up on that. But what's a trip is being away for four days and getting wowed every week when I get home and see how fast the progress is! Got three grows in flower and it's the most enjoyable time of the grow for me. These are some of my funnest grows ever, just having a blast with these plants that I love so much and appreciating every day best I can. Lots to say about plant therapy and I'm blessed to have plenty to spare 👊
 
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Res is super stable, feeding at 500 ppm now on early bloom ratios.
 
Changed out the res today for mid bloom ratios, been out of commission for a bit and recovering from a surgery myself but these girls are still chugging along. Did come home to an unpleasant surprise when one of these biotches threw balls on me 🤨

Plucked everything I could see, some of the sacks had opened unfortunately but is what it is. Everything undesirable was coming out of lower nodes where everything had been removed much earlier.

Aside from that, they’re feeding at right around 500 ppm, watching to see how they react to the new res.


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Balls you say huh
Ya, unfortunately this round is going to have some seeds, already found a few, mainly on those low flowers, which I preemptively removed a bunch of, them little bastards are hard to see, and they just pop out from those lower nodes and I’ve even found a couple that were on a female flower hiding on the underside. I did notice a few pistils that turned way too early, pretty sure these were seeded. If I don’t get too many more I might be good with only a few seeds to deal with.

Other than that, things are progressing nicely, changed the light spectrum to mimic HPS and ready for a big seedless bud explosion 👊


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so seeds from universally seeded in the future are a no go bud…
I tend to think genetics although they could have been stressed since my wife has been helping me and is not attentive to the environment as I am when I am here. I think there were a couple of days she let temps get upwards of 90+F so that may have been what happened. Even still, you'd think if the genetics were solid this would not have happened. Not too happy that's fosure.

If you look closely, most of the pistils seem unaffected by any pollen. I noticed almost immediately after this happened several of the lower flower pistils started turning orange on me. I've seen them do that when I accidentally brush up against them when defoliating, but I was seeing this on buds where I was pretty sure I had not disturbed them. I picked a couple of swollen calyxes and yea, definitely little seeds in there forming dagnabit, somebiotch.
 
I’d say it’s genetics..hopefully the pollen wasn’t viable bud.i had this happen awhile ago with Ethos planet of the grapes same area down low on the plant with the odd one just under the bud.luckily for me it wasn’t viable as I didn’t see it till week 4 in flower.most likely the breeder was just lazy and never tested before releasing.👏 it’s not too bad SLG
 
Right about the end of week 7 since flipping these gals, “breeder” says 7-10 weeks. Still been finding a few balls here and there but fortunately they have not gotten worse and went crazy hermie on me…bad enough as it is and really hoping the majority of these flowers remain un pollinated as they do appear to the eye.

Otherwise , the plants look fantastic and loving the HPS simulation from the Raging Kush. Drinking 5-6 gallons a day, feeding at about 365 ppm and starting to drop as the flowers begin to mature. Gonna change out the res this week for late bloom ratios and waltz to the finish line 💃 hopefully in 2-3 weeks.


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Hey nice stuff, a few seed won't hurt, my last crop was full of them from 1 bad plant....ah well onto the next grow ...eh.

I think you've been giving them a bit too much nitrogen after the 2nd week in flower. The amount of leaves & round ones in your buds at the top tell me that, along with the darker color1713985060131.png
 
Hey nice stuff, a few seed won't hurt, my last crop was full of them from 1 bad plant....ah well onto the next grow ...eh.

I think you've been giving them a bit too much nitrogen after the 2nd week in flower. The amount of leaves & round ones in your buds at the top tell me that, along with the darker colorView attachment 55545
You may be right about that PC, I did get a bit of leaf tip burn somewhere along the way, not exactly sure how it happened but I miss a lot when I’m gone and may not be getting all the events of the week if you know what I mean lol.

8 weeks in the books since flipping, I guess flowering for a bit over 6, still not sure when to start counting days, these plants don’t look 2 weeks from finishing but it could be that I’m not used to seeing them under HPS lighting. I’d say they still have a good amount of time left to fatten up and get ripe for the picking.

Did not get the res changed last week so gonna do that sometime today or tomorrow for late bloom ratios. Res has been stable but asking for less nutrients every day, down to 365 ppm and drinking 6-8 gallons of water a day. I think I might be done chasing balls, definitely gonna have some seeds on the lower buds but the uppers are looking pretty good, may not be 💯 seedless but I don’t think they’ll be packed either. I got a good pic of one I found last week, little bastards are hard to spot, a small number of them did open in the beginning but I do think I caught most of them thereafter.

Balls 🏀


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Flower shots 🌸

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You may be right about that PC, I did get a bit of leaf tip burn somewhere along the way, not exactly sure how it happened but I miss a lot when I’m gone and may not be getting all the events of the week if you know what I mean lol.

8 weeks in the books since flipping, I guess flowering for a bit over 6, still not sure when to start counting days, these plants don’t look 2 weeks from finishing but it could be that I’m not used to seeing them under HPS lighting. I’d say they still have a good amount of time left to fatten up and get ripe for the picking.

Did not get the res changed last week so gonna do that sometime today or tomorrow for late bloom ratios. Res has been stable but asking for less nutrients every day, down to 365 ppm and drinking 6-8 gallons of water a day. I think I might be done chasing balls, definitely gonna have some seeds on the lower buds but the uppers are looking pretty good, may not be 💯 seedless but I don’t think they’ll be packed either. I got a good pic of one I found last week, little bastards are hard to spot, a small number of them did open in the beginning but I do think I caught most of them thereafter.

Balls 🏀


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I get that from Granny, she's the one that said she hates giving too much nitrogen in flower because the buds get too many small leaves in them. Or something along those lines. ...At 1 week in flower I'm giving them 6ml /gal of my Grow and Micro and 3 ml... 3rd week in flower to cut back.
 
Nine weeks since flip on these ladies, got in there and removed a bunch of fans that were blocking light and getting ready for the upcoming harvest, getting there but still not even close to the finish line. Have not seen any more balls so hopefully I minimized the damage and there won’t be a butt load of seeds.

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11 weeks since flip and these plants are coming down today. They had pretty much stopped drinking and starting to show some amber trichomes three days ago, unplugged the light and let ‘em sit in the dark until today.

I have some mixed feelings about this grow. I thought from my end it went pretty well, no major issues with my room or equipment. The plants looked great but I took a chance on these genetics and not real happy with the outcome.

These plants flat out hermied on me and I attribute that to the genetics in the seeds I started. I guess I know what “universally seeded” means now. I’ve pulled a few branches already and not real happy at all, many seeds in those lower buds and so far I’ve found a small number on some upper buds, and that’s not even breaking one up yet. I also found two ball sacs that were very well hidden, fully opened and damage done for sure.

The upside is they are pretty sticky and looks like a good yield. Testing will be the final arbiter for my medicinal needs so we’ll see.


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