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dragonsflamegenetics said:
I also have testers as well that I only charge shipping and a commitment to grow em and take photos and tell me how they smoke, do not vault or resell them. I totally get money being tight...going back to college in my 30s has me in that boat wondering if its worth the cost.
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I saw that, i posted in your tester thread just lmk, id be more than happy to run testers for you without a doubt im just completely full until like the beginning of July.

Yeah i know all about it man, well not college, never went. But only making 1800 a month with 2 kids and bills is really hard.
Just gotta make it 4 more months til little dude is in school and income will double... without falling behind would be nice but thats not gonna happen lmao.
 
dragonsflamegenetics said:
the only time I've seen a difference in that was from super thin leaf heirloom types. where the seed mom wants to throw some bananas but the clone wont, but I also think that's more to do with sexual maturity of plants and maintaining health for longer periods of time. Alot of truly thin leaf stuff wont trigger until its big, so that first run in flower could be 16 -20 weeks, but from clones pulled off that mom the time can be more in the 12 week range. but in general.... herm is herm, if it herms once, it most certainly can, and likely at some point, will herm again. that has been my experience anyway....and I've popped and ran and overseen the running of....more than a few lol seeds. Some things at least do the sterile herms - like the chem d cut I got from hazeman, indoors especially, some runs she would banana up all over, but never would find any seeds. Had a dog Kush cut that was like that as well. I've also seen a handful of missed bananas fully seed out the tops of a 100' greenhouse lol. nature is crazy
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Some interesting info to say the least. The Clone going 4 weeks short has me really confused, I mean technically the clone is suppose to be an identical genetic copy of the mother plant. Wait I remember something about this, there was a guy on Spotify, he had a channel called shaping fire. I am going to screw up his name but it was something like Shango Lust. Anyways he had a breeder on one show. It might have been dungeon vault genetics. That guy mentioned something that could explain the shorter flower time. He stated when you take a plant out of its natural environment it will morph pretty quickly. It might have something to do with the change in environment because it sounds like you are talking about strains located very close to the equator and stuff.
 
Anthem275 said:
Some interesting info to say the least. The Clone going 4 weeks short has me really confused, I mean technically the clone is suppose to be an identical genetic copy of the mother plant. Wait I remember something about this, there was a guy on Spotify, he had a channel called shaping fire. I am going to screw up his name but it was something like Shango Lust. Anyways he had a breeder on one show. It might have been dungeon vault genetics. That guy mentioned something that could explain the shorter flower time. He stated when you take a plant out of its natural environment it will morph pretty quickly. It might have something to do with the change in environment because it sounds like you are talking about strains located very close to the equator and stuff.
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yea the trigger time is built into genetics. Something that isn't really spoken about in the mainstream.. Like for example - an 8 week flower time that triggers june 15th vs 8 week time that triggers at july 7th outdoor. Both are technically 8 week flower time, but one will harvest early then other. With the tropical equatorial stuff where daylight hours are incredibly similar, that trigger response is delayed esp from seed plants. Clones are copies - but clones are also generally sexually mature while seed mothers generally take time to reach sexual maturity in order to start flower. You could root a clone and flip it immediately and it triggers different then the seed mom. or you could start equatorial lines right under 12/12 and normal genetics under 12/12 - standard genetics likely will end up with a mini plant while the equatorial line might get 4 foot tall before it actually starts stretching and flowering.
 
The Wedding Cake clone is in the middle. Its small and spindly right now, but should fill in. Everything else is humming along. So far no noticeable difference between perlite/no-perlite. If anything, the no-perlite plants appear to be growing faster, but that could be the genetics.
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Nesta said:
The Wedding Cake clone is in the middle. Its small and spindly right now, but should fill in. Everything else is humming along. So far no noticeable difference between perlite/no-perlite. If anything, the no-perlite plants appear to be growing faster, but that could be the genetics.
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Nesta I believe there are two different types of Wedding Cake. I had one about 7 years ago that was short bushy and shocky branching. There is another one that I had but never flowered that was much more sativa leaning. I believe the Sativa leaner is the better one from what little I know.
Is the wedding cake the 2nd one in from the left?
 
Anthem275 said:
Nesta I believe there are two different types of Wedding Cake. I had one about 7 years ago that was short bushy and shocky branching. There is another one that I had but never flowered that was much more sativa leaning. I believe the Sativa leaner is the better one from what little I know.
Is the wedding cake the 2nd one in from the left?
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This is supposed to be the jbeezy wedding cake cut. It is second one in from the left in the middle row. This pic is not a good depiction of what the strain looks like because it was a neglected clone. I took from a mother 2 weeks into flower. It went through a little re-veg.
 
Almost one week into flower. Everything looks healthy and starting to fill in a bit. I need to get some risers, as the two sunset frosts in the back are out pacing the rest.

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Rootsruler said:
For sure. On the current run I have going I had one cultivar that just didn't want to cooperate. She was healthy and green but just didn't really grow much. About 3 weeks in she just blew up like roots hitting water in RDWC.

I took a cut off of her and she's showing the same characteristics in the mom tent. Very slow growth but she's healthy.

Don't count them runts out.
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My Mimosa X Orange Punch was a runt for a long time, now that she's got free reign outdoors, she's one of the bigger ladies. I think maybe some strains like to grow a crap ton of roots before really pushing the vegetation, because she had very robust roots at transplant time.
 
TSD said:
My Mimosa X Orange Punch was a runt for a long time, now that she's got free reign outdoors, she's one of the bigger ladies. I think maybe some strains like to grow a crap ton of roots before really pushing the vegetation, because she had very robust roots at transplant time.
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Probably right. Could be genetically they have a time clock where it all comes together.
 
3 weeks in. I pulled a male White Tahoe Dragon today. The rest are all female. The Sunset Freeze, Grape Gas, and Wedding cake all stretched like crazy. The WTD and the Cuntz both stayed pretty stout. I trimmed off all lowers today and will leave these be for a while.
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3 1/2 weeks into flower. I started getting some tip burn at 1/2 strength, so I stepped it back to 1/4 strength. One downfall of the blumat line is you can only adjust the hight of each plant so far. Running multiple strains with wildly different stretch rates is challenging. Will make the best of it.

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Nesta said:
3 1/2 weeks into flower. I started getting some tip burn at 1/2 strength, so I stepped it back to 1/4 strength. One downfall of the blumat line is you can only adjust the hight of each plant so far. Running multiple strains with wildly different stretch rates is challenging. Will make the best of it.
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^^ This is good info^^(y)
 
Nesta said:
3 1/2 weeks into flower. I started getting some tip burn at 1/2 strength, so I stepped it back to 1/4 strength. One downfall of the blumat line is you can only adjust the hight of each plant so far. Running multiple strains with wildly different stretch rates is challenging. Will make the best of it.


White Tahoe Dragon

Grape Gas

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Cuntz


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Dayyyyyyum Nesta, nice pimp jungle ya got there. Hussies all over the place. Tall ones, short ones, and all in between. Hell yeah bud, no discrimination from here. You've got to get in where you fit in :ROFLMAO:
Keep it up man and burn one for me this weekend. Happy 4th ahead 🎆
 
No im using canna classic bud..I get up to 500ppm in veg and up to 610 ppm in flower around week 5 then very slowly reduce till chop.I don’t get any def or toxity‘s thank god..
 
A few pics before I head out of town. 4 1/2 weeks into flower. Added PK 12/14 and Boost to the res this week. Resin production continues to pick up.

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Just got back from a week away and everything is still upright. We are in week 6 and still following the Canna Coco feeding schedule. They are fading pretty fast, but since this is my first run with a 2 part mix, Im really not sure what I would add more of to keep things green longer for future runs. Thoughts would be appreciated. The smell in the tent is fantastic and the buds are starting to swell.
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An interesting side project. I took cuttings at week two of flower, but I didnt have room to put them in the dome or cloner as my 2x4 is full with my DFG grow. So I took the cuttings and put them in water in solo cups in the 2x4. Three + weeks later, we have roots! I have read this works, but have never done it before. It certainly is not my preferred cloning method, but it definitely works.
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Today is officially the start of week 8 since flip. Everything is looking good at the moment. The buds are swelling nicely. I do have to say that the Sunset Freeze by Tenguseedco is one the of the frostiest strains I have ever grown. I have two distinct phenos in what I popped, but the pic below is of the frostiest. Hats off to TF for creating this strain. All drama aside, its beautiful. I will say that nothing in the tent compares to the grape gas in terms of smell. I’m not sure if its the strains or the switch to coco from organic soil, but the smell has really been tamed this run. This was a concern i had when switching to coco. I hope the coco is not the culprit because i have really enjoyed the switch. Will reserve judgement until we’ve had a good cure. A side by side might be warranted in the future. Here are some pics in the meantime. Perhaps a week of two to go.
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Im a little late for an update. Will get one up this weekend. In the meantime I have what may be a stupid question for my hydro/coco growers: @Aqua Man @smoke @Mad Max @Moe.Red and any others that see this. Since I am using blumats and feeding at 1/4 strenght (Coco A&B), should I also be 1/4 dosing all of the supplemental additives such as cannazyme/rhizotonic/PK/Boost ect? Or only 1/4 dose the A&B?
 
Nesta said:
Im a little late for an update. Will get one up this weekend. In the meantime I have what may be a stupid question for my hydro/coco growers: @Aqua Man @smoke @Mad Max @Moe.Red and any others that see this. Since I am using blumats and feeding at 1/4 strenght (Coco A&B), should I also be 1/4 dosing all of the supplemental additives such as cannazyme/rhizotonic/PK/Boost ect? Or only 1/4 dose the A&B?
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Any nutrients imo should be run at a similar dose… products like cannazyme can be run full strength
 
I don’t run cannazym.rhizotonic.pk 13/14. Didn’t notice any difference in performance running them.not saying they don’t work.the cannazym def does.should see the Color of the runoff ,,goes brown as ..I could not afford to run cannaboost at full strength so I thought it’s best to give them something rather than nothing.directions are normal dose 20ml a ltre and another at 40 ml .I thought 20 was too much so I give them 28 ml to 32 odd litres and only run it from week 5 or 6 for 2 to 3 weeks.I use to run the pk 13/14 just after using the boost at half strength for one week.didn’t notice any difference in size..maybe it needs to b ran at full dose..that ones cheap enough..I run go roots instead of rhizotonic .it’s dear af.has humic and fulvic acid..an old friend from the farm One Drop who was kicked out uses it and said it works very well. 2.5 ml to 10 litres .I use 5ml to 32litres..I have the approach using additives that the “less is more” works better..you will also see the experienced grower mention running all these additives can give you an unstable ph…
 
Alright we are getting pretty close here. This coming Wednesday will be 63 days. This week I switched to plain water and Epsom, taking a page out of @Anthem275’s book. Will see how that goes. Most look like they will finish this week, but the Wedding Cake (which I just realized I didn’t snap a pic of) that may need another week. All in all, this has been a fairly successful first run at Coco. Here are a few pics. Will grab a shot of the WC tomorrow.

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Day 64, some are ready and some need a few more days. The reality is based on my space end up, coming work, travel everything is coming down on Saturday. So far really happy with how this grow turned out and the switch from organic soil to Coco. Time will tell if the herb is as tasty and smells as good!
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