The Psyche Gardens

[Observer]

@Observer , hey man did you have an issue trying to post those links? i saw a weird server error and wanted to make sure you weren't getting hosed.

aeroponics FTW!!!

exactly

i was like is it the amazon link, it let me post otherts, so i jsut deletred everything and will post it back in a bit

 

[Observer]

thinking about playing around with this

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BZBWMKDJ?smid=A3UHVGJXG4AZ5E&th=1

 

[Observer]

i liked this little setup demo too

 

[Observer]

still got plans for the fog but thats gonna take more stuff and work to get to work, compared to rigging up this pump and res.

 

[Observer]

thinking about playing around with this

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https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BZBWMKDJ?smid=A3UHVGJXG4AZ5E&th=1

Arriving Wednesday

 

[Observer]

Little root just keeps growin

Put it in a "kratky" last night.

 

[Observer]

Gotta get flower salts....not being able to cut N sucks.

 

[steamroller]

I really like the high pressure set up.
Can't wait to see what do with it.

 

[Observer]

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[Observer]

I really like the high pressure set up.
Can't wait to see what do with it.

It should be here this week.


then ill start trying to rig it up into a tote.

 

[Observer]

i might try to innoculate the roots with myco, and run 34% h2o2 along side as well.

• Mycorrhizae Need Oxygen: Like plant roots, mycorrhizal fungi require oxygen for respiration and metabolic processes. They are not anaerobic and will not thrive in oxygen-deprived conditions.
  
  
• Aeroponics Provides High Oxygen: A properly functioning aeroponic system, especially with a 40µm mist, delivers a significant amount of oxygen directly to the roots. This highly oxygenated environment is generally conducive to mycorrhizal colonization.
  
  
• Benefits of Oxygen for Mycorrhizae:Sufficient oxygen is crucial for the germination of mycorrhizal spores, the growth of their hyphae (the thread-like structures), and the formation of the symbiotic relationship with the plant roots.
  
  
• Low Oxygen is Detrimental: Conversely, conditions with low dissolved oxygen or stagnant water can hinder mycorrhizal development and even lead to their decline. This is why good aeration is important in any hydroponic or soil-based growing method when using mycorrhizae.
• Different Types of Mycorrhizae:The most common and beneficial type of mycorrhizae for cannabis are arbuscular mycorrhizae (AM fungi), which form symbiotic relationships within the root cells. These types also benefit from good oxygen availability.
  

 

[Observer]

A little purple color is showing.

 

[SiamSam]

40% of women say purple is their favorite color, 99% of dinosaus prefer purple

 

[Observer]

 

[Observer]

thinking about my nutrient ratio for this aeroponics setup

i was using JRCROPTECH 9-17-28 before for RW/coco/

but im pretty sure im going to need to switch it up a little for aero, and i ran out anyways.

Potential Ratio Adjustments:

• Nitrogen (N):
  • Given the increased efficiency of nutrient uptake, you might be able to slightly reduce the nitrogen content.
  • However, nitrogen is crucial for vegetative growth, so don't reduce it too drastically.
  • Pay close attention to leaf color and growth rate to ensure adequate nitrogen levels.
• Phosphorus (P):
  • This is where the most significant adjustment might be needed.
  • The "17" in your current ratio is relatively high.
  • In aeroponics, with enhanced uptake, and especially with Mycorrhizae, excessive phosphorus can easily lead to nutrient imbalances and lockouts.
  • Consider reducing the phosphorus content significantly. Start with a much lower P value, and increase slowly if needed.
  • Mycorrhizae greatly increase the plants ability to uptake phosphorus, therefore it is very easy to over feed phosphorus.
• Potassium (K):
  • Potassium is essential for flowering and overall plant health.
  • The "28" might remain relatively stable, but careful monitoring is still crucial.
  • Potassium is also important for water regulation, which is vital in the highly oxygenated environment of aeroponics.
  • Depending on the strain of plant being grown, the potassium number may need to be increased.

Practical Recommendations:

• Start with a Modified Ratio:
  • Consider starting with a ratio closer to 9-10-20, or even lower in phosphorus.
  • This provides a more balanced approach that accounts for the increased efficiency of aeroponics and the presence of mycorrhizae.
• Gradual Adjustments:
  • Make small, incremental adjustments to the ratio based on your plants' response.
  • Pay close attention to leaf color, growth rate, and flowering.
• Monitoring:
  • Regularly monitor EC and pH levels.
  • Observe plants for signs of nutrient deficiencies or toxicities.
• Mycorrhizal Influence:
  • Remember that mycorrhizae will enhance nutrient uptake, especially phosphorus.
  • This means you'll likely need to use lower nutrient concentrations overall.

Example Ratio Adjustment Process:

1. Initial Ratio: 9-10-20 (or similar lower P value)
2. Monitor: EC, pH, plant growth
3. Adjust: If plants show signs of phosphorus deficiency, gradually increase the P value. If signs of other deficiencies show, adjust those values.
4. Record: Keep detailed records of your adjustments and observations.

 

[SiamSam]

thinking about my nutrient ratio for this aeroponics setup

i was using JRCROPTECH 9-17-28 before for RW/coco/

but im pretty sure im going to need to switch it up a little for aero, and i ran out anyways.

Potential Ratio Adjustments:

• Nitrogen (N):
  • Given the increased efficiency of nutrient uptake, you might be able to slightly reduce the nitrogen content.
  • However, nitrogen is crucial for vegetative growth, so don't reduce it too drastically.
  • Pay close attention to leaf color and growth rate to ensure adequate nitrogen levels.
• Phosphorus (P):
  • This is where the most significant adjustment might be needed.
  • The "17" in your current ratio is relatively high.
  • In aeroponics, with enhanced uptake, and especially with Mycorrhizae, excessive phosphorus can easily lead to nutrient imbalances and lockouts.
  • Consider reducing the phosphorus content significantly. Start with a much lower P value, and increase slowly if needed.
  • Mycorrhizae greatly increase the plants ability to uptake phosphorus, therefore it is very easy to over feed phosphorus.
• Potassium (K):
  • Potassium is essential for flowering and overall plant health.
  • The "28" might remain relatively stable, but careful monitoring is still crucial.
  • Potassium is also important for water regulation, which is vital in the highly oxygenated environment of aeroponics.
  • Depending on the strain of plant being grown, the potassium number may need to be increased.

Practical Recommendations:

• Start with a Modified Ratio:
  • Consider starting with a ratio closer to 9-10-20, or even lower in phosphorus.
  • This provides a more balanced approach that accounts for the increased efficiency of aeroponics and the presence of mycorrhizae.
• Gradual Adjustments:
  • Make small, incremental adjustments to the ratio based on your plants' response.
  • Pay close attention to leaf color, growth rate, and flowering.
• Monitoring:
  • Regularly monitor EC and pH levels.
  • Observe plants for signs of nutrient deficiencies or toxicities.
• Mycorrhizal Influence:
  • Remember that mycorrhizae will enhance nutrient uptake, especially phosphorus.
  • This means you'll likely need to use lower nutrient concentrations overall.

Example Ratio Adjustment Process:

1. Initial Ratio: 9-10-20 (or similar lower P value)
2. Monitor: EC, pH, plant growth
3. Adjust: If plants show signs of phosphorus deficiency, gradually increase the P value. If signs of other deficiencies show, adjust those values.
4. Record: Keep detailed records of your adjustments and observations.

Wondering if your hobby takes away too much time; seems too complex and then again, some spend all their time on orchids.

 

[Zen_seeker]

Little root just keeps growin

Put it in a "kratky" last night.

You missed it. I grew a clone in a shotglass. Had the neoprene puck sit on top.

 

[Observer]

Thinking I'll transfer these 2 to the aero system once/if I can get that up and running by this weekend.

I do not have anything to pH with right now


But I did add a very small dosage of 3% peroxide and Calcium hypochlorous acid, alongside a tiny dose of soluble kelp.

I need to get potassium hydroxide, or potassium bicarbonate,

Potassium sillicate and phosphoric acid would be great.

I also would like to get some mycorrhizae.



Might end up going with the plant success great white or liquid orca, if I can.

And then I need to get a lower concentrated NPK formula with micronutes.

To run the aero system

And then I need a bloom salt with 0

Would like to get koolbloom powder pk boost 2-45-28 as well.

Add 34% h2o2 as well again

 

[Observer]

.

 

[Observer]

Ooo

 

[Observer]

Pinching the bottom of the tap root.

@Stoneyluv to get the root system to start branching

 

[Observer]

Versus not pinching

 

[Observer]

Chelation:

• Citric acid is a powerful chelating agent. This means it can bind to metal ions, such as iron, manganese, and zinc, making them more soluble and available for plant uptake.
  
  
• Chelation prevents these micronutrients from precipitating out of the solution and becoming unavailable to plants.
  
  
• This is particularly important in hydroponic and aeroponic systems, where nutrient availability is directly linked to the solution's composition.

hmm

 

[Observer]

The Reaction:

The reaction involves neutralizing the alkaline potassium silicate solution with phosphoric acid. This process releases monosilicic acid and forms potassium phosphate as a byproduct. The simplified chemical reaction is complex, but the general concept includes these basic interactions. The introduction of the acid donates H+ ions that interact with the silicate ions, and though several intermediate compounds can be formed, the aim is to create the Monosilicic acid. The process also creates various potassium phosphates.

Steps Involved:

1. Preparation of Potassium Silicate Solution:
   • Dilute potassium silicate in water to the desired concentration.
   • It's crucial to use high-quality potassium silicate.
2. Slow Addition of Phosphoric Acid:
   • Slowly add phosphoric acid to the potassium silicate solution while continuously stirring.
   • This is the most critical step. The addition must be slow to prevent rapid polymerization of silicic acid, which would render it unavailable to plants.
   • Monitor the pH of the solution. The goal is to lower the pH to a slightly acidic range (e.g., pH 5.5-6.5).
3. Monitoring and pH Adjustment:
   • Use a pH meter to constantly monitor the pH during the reaction.
   • Adjust the rate of phosphoric acid addition to maintain the desired pH.
4. Dilution:
   • Once the desired pH is reached, dilute the solution to the appropriate concentration for your aeroponic system.

• Stability:
  • Monosilicic acid is unstable and can polymerize over time. Use the solution promptly after preparation.
    
• Byproducts:
  • The reaction will create potassium phosphate, this can be an added nutrient to your nutrient solution.

Why Monosilicic Acid Is Beneficial:

• Increased Cell Wall Strength:
  • Silica strengthens plant cell walls, making them more resistant to pests, diseases, and environmental stresses.
    
• Enhanced Nutrient Uptake:
  • Silica can improve the uptake and utilization of other essential nutrients.
    
• Improved Growth and Yield:
  • Silica can promote overall plant growth and increase yields.

 

[Observer]

....

 

[Observer]

Want/need to get some 1-2 inch circular drill bits to properly fit the net cups I have


I Want shit to be "proper" as I can afford/get it.

Tight fits and no/minimal leaks.

 

[Observer]

2 green 4 chop 4 me.

 

[Observer]

This one looks like it's buds are getting more mass.

And the color is changing more, so I'm letting go, more.

Just filtered bottled water and MagSulfate.

 

[Observer]

...

 

[Stoneyluv]

Versus not pinching

so you pinch them off as soon as you see them come out of the bottom?

Want/need to get some 1-2 inch circular drill bits to properly fit the net cups I have


I Want shit to be "proper" as I can afford/get it.

Tight fits and no/minimal leaks.

one word: unibit