Adventures in Building an Outdoor Garden

[4Plants]

Welcome to my little corner of the forum! I am happy to be here and share my summer journey with you guys. I have done a little growing here and there, enough to be dangerous, I hadn;t grown anything in my tent in a bit and decided it was time. Started some plants meant as indoor mother plants and well things sort of changed somewhere along the way. The plants are now going outdoors into a neglected section of my yard, and it is being converted into my outdoor Zen Garden chill space. Somewhere to sit down and relax and smoke a joint.

While i have grown veggies outdoor before I have never grown cannabis outdoors.

Anyways, let me get down to it and post some pictures. I have two Colombian Jacks and one Alien Rock Candy. Wasn't really the best and documenting earlier in process.













Old fence panels being turned into risers. Still ended up cutting 2x4s into little blocks to prop pots up off of these to get more airflow.

 

[4Plants]

Took a photo of the girls this morning. The one in the front is the Alien Rock Candy.

 

[moe.red]

Welcome to BB, plants look great. Good luck on a banner harvest this year.

 

[4Plants]

I have been busy starting seeds the last few days. Flowers and veggies. Mammoth Sunflower, Zinnias, Snapdragons, Swiss Giant Pansies, Roma Tomato, Cherry Tomato, Early Girl Tomato, Tangerine Dream Peppers, Brussel sprouts,

 

[4Plants]

Sunflowers are off to the races. Have nine getting ready to go into the ground. The plan for them is to put them in the front yard to grow up and block the visibility of the ladies as they grow taller than my fence.



If you have never seen Mammoth Russian Sunflowers., they get big. The suinflower head can be up to a foot across

 

[tobh]

what size fabric pots are you using there? looking for some comparable to that for some gorilla trees.

 

[4Plants]

what size fabric pots are you using there? looking for some comparable to that for some gorilla trees.

30 gallons

 

[4Plants]

The girls are getting tall. This one put on around 10 inches in the last 2 weeks. I am really wondering just how tall they are gonna be.

 

[TSD]

Sunflowers are off to the races. Have nine getting ready to go into the ground. The plan for them is to put them in the front yard to grow up and block the visibility of the ladies as they grow taller than my fence.

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If you have never seen Mammoth Russian Sunflowers., they get big. The suinflower head can be up to a foot across

Nice, I do the same to block the line of sight, Mammoth Russian as well.

 

[4Plants]

Things still going smoothly. Still super worried about bud rot. Need to do some trimming. Felt like the girls hadn't gotten that much bigger since I put them out and looking back at early photos going outdoor here, I realize just how much bigger they already are.






And how about some music to round out the post.

 

[4Plants]

Been thinking about switching to the balling on a budget recipe; who has experience with it?

It is

Silica
Jacks Part A - 3 grams
Calcium Nitrate (I just plan to use the Part B) - 2 grams.
Epsom Salt - 1 gram
Fluvic Acid

That is the order you mix it in right? How do you determine the feed strength during early veg, veg, and flower. What is the ratio for the Silica and the fulvic acid? You pull the silica in flower, correct? Any and all help will be appreciated

Planning on ordering 25lb bags just to be cost effective so wanna make sure I will get ir right and be fairly happy with the results.

 

[4Plants]

Security came by to check on my girls!!! Better watch out peeps Boxxy Borwn doesn't play.

 

[4Plants]

Should I start a thread about the Jacks Balling recipe, don't seem to get much attention to my thread, guess I'm not cool enough.

 

[GoodShit97]

I dont run jacks, but i bet @Observer would be interested, i think he runs with jacks.

 

[4Plants]

Just realized I didn't post my bonsai here. First photo was a month or so back. Was supposed to fertilize and forget. Have some browning on my needles now. I feed it some liquid fertilizer the other day and added some 16-4-8 granular today. Juniper takes a while to be affected by nutrients so we shall see. Moss is looking great though.

 

[Shaded]

can't help ya in regards to the jack's thing but nice looking setup ya got going here

 

[Aqua Man]

I’ve used jack and most of the recipe… i know @Anthem275 has a fair bit of experience running it

 

[Observer]

Currently using jacks, don't know too much about it but it's cheap and simple to mix you're own nutrients.

And goes a long ways.

15-0-0
5-12-26
Epsom

 

[4Plants]

Well I have ordered a 25lb bags of Jacks 5-15-26 and Jack's 15-0-0. Also ordered (3) 8 pound bags of unsented epsom salt USP grade, and a liter of Mr Fulvic.

Still trying to decide what silica I wanna get. Any suggestions?

 

[SiamSam]

Who was it back on the old site saying you shouldnt add silica during flower? Might have been BurnYaBuds but I remember that being said. Cant remember the rationale....but someone else might.

 

[Observer]

Who was it back on the old site saying you shouldnt add silica during flower? Might have been BurnYaBuds but I remember that being said. Cant remember the rationale....but someone else might.

Makes the buds rock hard afaik

Some don't like buds like that (?)

I don't know the other reasoning

 

[Observer]

Well I have ordered a 25lb bags of Jacks 5-15-26 and Jack's 15-0-0. Also ordered (3) 8 pound bags of unsented epsom salt USP grade, and a liter of Mr Fulvic.

Still trying to decide what silica I wanna get. Any suggestions?

Any product that's monosiliic acid

 

[Moshmen]

Who was it back on the old site saying you shouldnt add silica during flower? Might have been BurnYaBuds but I remember that being said. Cant remember the rationale....but someone else might.

I believe it was a decline in quality ? No expert here but too much silica in flower could lead to harsher crappier burning weed imo . I guys use it but I think that’s for weight ?

 

[Observer]

I believe it was a decline in quality ? No expert here but too much silica in flower could lead to harsher crappier burning weed imo . I guys use it but I think that’s for weight ?

Yup heard that as well

 

[4Plants]

Who was it back on the old site saying you shouldnt add silica during flower? Might have been BurnYaBuds but I remember that being said. Cant remember the rationale....but someone else might.

Bill Farthing said it in the original thread. Compared it to using PGRs

 

[4Plants]

Posted in outdoor thread but will post here as well. Going to try to take it again in a few hours hoping everything is darker out. We will see

 

[4Plants]

 

[Anthem275]

Bill Farthing said it in the original thread. Compared it to using PGRs

Monosilic Acid is about the easiest to work with but also the most expensive. The best price I have found was from Front Row Ag. You only use 0.5 mills per gallon. You can run it thru to about week 4 of 12/12 and it will not have an big difference on bud density. After that it will start to make rock hard buds. I only run fulvic in veg and first 2 weeks of 12/12. With Jacks make sure to use this ratio and RO water
3.79 grams of Jack 5-12-26, .99 grams of epson salt and 2.52 of Calcium Nitrate. Also make sure you add the silica first than the jacks then the epson salt and last the calcium nitrate.

 

[4Plants]

Monosilic Acid is about the easiest to work with but also the most expensive. The best price I have found was from Front Row Ag. You only use 0.5 mills per gallon. You can run it thru to about week 4 of 12/12 and it will not have an big difference on bud density. After that it will start to make rock hard buds. I only run fulvic in veg and first 2 weeks of 12/12. With Jacks make sure to use this ratio and RO water
3.79 grams of Jack 5-12-26, .99 grams of epson salt and 2.52 of Calcium Nitrate. Also make sure you add the silica first than the jacks then the epson salt and last the calcium nitrate.

I was looking at this earlier. I think Bill suggested as an alternative to Grow Genius and PowerSI

Looks to be about $30 for 250ml.
I will look at FrontRow a little more, seen it in my browsing.

https://www.grotek.com/product-page/gro-silic

• GUARANTEED MINIMUM ANALYSIS​

  
  Available Silicon (Si(OH)4) .......... 44.0%
  Boron (B)(actual) .......... 0.009%
  Molybdenum (Mo)(actual) .......... 0.0015%
  

 

[4Plants]

Enjoying some fat dabs while waiting for everyone to go to bed so I can take some more twilight photos.

 

[Anthem275]

I was looking at this earlier. I think Bill suggested as an alternative to Grow Genius and PowerSI

Looks to be about $30 for 250ml.
I will look at FrontRow a little more, seen it in my browsing.

https://www.grotek.com/product-page/gro-silic

• GUARANTEED MINIMUM ANALYSIS​

  
  Available Silicon (Si(OH)4) .......... 44.0%
  Boron (B)(actual) .......... 0.009%
  Molybdenum (Mo)(actual) .......... 0.0015%

I have done more research than I care to admit on some of these nutrients and the shit the companies put on labels and most are completely lying on the labels. When you see something like Guaranteed Minimum Analysis that means nothing really. A big company like Jacks or Masterblend is pretty accurate about the actual products in the bag. Some of the other manufacturers do some really bad things. I know one company that posts Magnesium at half of what is in the mix, this same company uses calcium nitrate in their blend but they also add the micro nutrients to the calcium Nitrate to make you pay 100 dollars for the calcium Nitrate over 40 bucks for a 50 pound bag of green house grade calcium Nitrate. The best Monosilic Acid I have used is cilicium but the stuff is too expensive, I saw an paper by a well known hydroponic expert and he sort of explained that they are doing. See the boron in the label above that has to be there to keep the Monosilic Acid stable. More than likely Cilicium is adding extra boron because the plant likes it. They all do crappy stuff like this but the only way to really know what is in the stuff is to have it lab tested.

 

[4Plants]

Cooked some fried rice today for lunch

 

[Aqua Man]

Well I have ordered a 25lb bags of Jacks 5-15-26 and Jack's 15-0-0. Also ordered (3) 8 pound bags of unsented epsom salt USP grade, and a liter of Mr Fulvic.

Still trying to decide what silica I wanna get. Any suggestions?

Id just foliar it in your situation. Agsil is a good option. You can really go wrong or add too much. It’s actually i think the most abundant nutrient in the soil naturally. Makes a real difference in terms of stem strength and pest resistance

 

[4Plants]

This is the auto super skunk I have in my tent. I wanted to try my hands on an auto just to see what I think. Guess I won't really know until I smoke it but it is looking alright so far.

 

[4Plants]

I was super excited to get my jacks until I open it and see this.



Two bags of Cal Nit and no part A. Oh well, the seller has the part A on the way and let me keep the extra bag of Cal Nit. I'm sure the return shipping would have killed whatever margin is there anyways. Think I am covered on the Cal Nit for awhile.

Still need to order my MSA

 

[4Plants]

Well, the rest of my Jacks should be here tomorrow. Should be fun to start working with it finally. Had a wild storm that brough some of the fastest and hardest hail I have ever seen in my life. The girls outside were not happy. We will see what they look like tomorrow afternoon after some time to bounce back. Such a freak storm. Wasn't even a huge area around us that got it



Here is my Super Skunk auto tonight.

 

[steamroller]

Find a super dry place to keep your Jacks, and keep the open bag super sealed up.
It is hydroscopic and more than a few have found their bag turning to slush..

Plants and fried rice look good~!

 

[4Plants]

Find a super dry place to keep your Jacks, and keep the open bag super sealed up.
It is hydroscopic and more than a few have found their bag turning to slush..

Plants and fried rice look good~!

Good to know, I was planning on getting some of the tall dog food plastic containers for it.

 

[GoodShit97]

Good to know, I was planning on getting some of the tall dog food plastic containers for it.

Im a sucker for Uline, so id recommend a gamma bucket, or even a viddle vault from petsmart, its the same concept just 8 times the price lol.
I saw observer had a lot of issues keeping his dry.

 

[CannaGranny]

Everything is looking beautiful! Thanks for sharing!