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Is this normal yellowing?

Garbage_bear

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It's a Bodie Pacific NW dog shit x 88g13 hash plant. Living soil. Fed with microbe compost/earth worm casting tea and Roots Organics Terp Tea. Is it too much water? I really don't think I over water them. Is this normal yellowing?
 

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Garbage_bear said:
It's a Bodie Pacific NW dog shit x 88g13 hash plant. Living soil. Fed with microbe compost/earth worm casting tea and Roots Organics Terp Tea. Is it too much water? I really don't think I over water them. Is this normal yellowing?
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How far along in flower are you? Looks like a nitrogen deficiency and it’s mobile. If it were normal N burn, it would start at the bottom. The integrity of your leaves do not look like something that was overwatered. Mine will do that but only at the end of bloom and I force it to happen.
Another question is how do you water them? In the root zone or do you saturate the entire pot?
 
Garbage_bear said:
It's a Bodie Pacific NW dog shit x 88g13 hash plant. Living soil. Fed with microbe compost/earth worm casting tea and Roots Organics Terp Tea. Is it too much water? I really don't think I over water them. Is this normal yellowing?
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Normal I'd say yes. but by better feeding I think we can prevent it from starting at 4 weeks in flower by controlling our feed better.

The pro's will pop in and correct me for sure but I'm not getting that fade at 4 weeks now after adding Cal/mag to my nutrients starting at week 3 of flower. I 'm also not dropping Grow / nitrogen? out of my feed and keeping it at veg levels right through until I taper everything off starting around week 9. I don't add it to my nute mix until week 3 of flower because this chart says that's when I need it & just basic veg nutes until this chart says to change up........I've stretched this chart to 10 weeks and finishing at 111695308589718.png
 
Pipecarver said:
Normal I'd say yes. but by better feeding I think we can prevent it from starting at 4 weeks in flower by controlling our feed better.

The pro's will pop in and correct me for sure but I'm not getting that fade at 4 weeks now after adding Cal/mag to my nutrients starting at week 3 of flower. I 'm also not dropping Grow / nitrogen? out of my feed and keeping it at veg levels right through until I taper everything off starting around week 9. I don't add it to my nute mix until week 3 of flower because this chart says that's when I need it & just basic veg nutes until this chart says to change up........I've stretched this chart to 10 weeks and finishing at 11View attachment 22229
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I pulled this last night and looking at the pic I may have over fed a bit with the shiny green leaves but It didn't show that to me under the lights. I'll have to back off a bit....no yellow leaves at the end though at 11.5 weeks1695309271045.png
 
CannaGranny said:
How far along in flower are you? Looks like a nitrogen deficiency and it’s mobile. If it were normal N burn, it would start at the bottom. The integrity of your leaves do not look like something that was overwatered. Mine will do that but only at the end of bloom and I force it to happen.
Another question is how do you water them? In the root zone or do you saturate the entire pot?
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I'm about a month in. I water around the edges, not in the root ball zone. It's not in a pot, it's in the earth. If it is a N deficiency could I add a good amount of worm castings to fix that issue?
 
Pipecarver said:
Normal I'd say yes. but by better feeding I think we can prevent it from starting at 4 weeks in flower by controlling our feed better.

The pro's will pop in and correct me for sure but I'm not getting that fade at 4 weeks now after adding Cal/mag to my nutrients starting at week 3 of flower. I 'm also not dropping Grow / nitrogen? out of my feed and keeping it at veg levels right through until I taper everything off starting around week 9. I don't add it to my nute mix until week 3 of flower because this chart says that's when I need it & just basic veg nutes until this chart says to change up........I've stretched this chart to 10 weeks and finishing at 11View attachment 22229
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I’m always loathe to add N after three weeks in flower. It seems to throw it back into a veg state and it starts producing leaves like crazy. I use close to the same method that he does, but I also feed throughout the entire process with seaweed and kelp. Mine would look like that too, if I did not supplement.
 
CannaGranny said:
I’m always loathe to add N after three weeks in flower. It seems to throw it back into a veg state and it starts producing leaves like crazy. I use close to the same method that he does, but I also feed throughout the entire process with seaweed and kelp. Mine would look like that too, if I did not supplement.
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I have some Down to earth Bio-Live 5-4-2. It has crab meal and kelp meal I believe. Would that help?
 
I'm gonna say yes for the time of year it is....no spotting on them to be seen...looks like mostly fans, that time of year...your in Oregon right?

Probably slightly underfed going into bloom
 
Garbage_bear said:
I'm about a month in. I water around the edges, not in the root ball zone. It's not in a pot, it's in the earth. If it is a N deficiency could I add a good amount of worm castings to fix that issue?
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No too late but next time maybe I've no idea of growing outside like you but my experience may help you next round. There's no real issue in my eyes , the plants will use them up, I'd pull the full yellow just for light penetration but it is fall and dropping leaves is a normal part of that.
 
Listen to the others though I usually have issues really nailing down the feed into bloom so I see more fade and yellowing than is ideal I'd say

I'm a dum dum lol, how do they smell? I am real interested in growing some bodhi stuff eventually
 
CannaGranny said:
I’m always loathe to add N after three weeks in flower. It seems to throw it back into a veg state and it starts producing leaves like crazy. I use close to the same method that he does, but I also feed throughout the entire process with seaweed and kelp. Mine would look like that too, if I did not supplement.
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My N is not all N it just a higher in a higher % than the other crap I guess. I don't really use those elements to figure my mixes. I'm more of a brown/green/pink kinda guy with the added orange and even blue when you start talking n/k/p/ca/mg and shit it gets all confusing so there's that. There can be a loss in translation so more Green and Orange about 5ml each / gal
 
Hey PC are you growing organic too?
I have done top dressing up to five weeks in very low ratio, and it worked. When I get in trouble like that, I top dress with Dr Earths flower girl. It’s full of crab etc like the stuff he has.
 
MDK said:
Listen to the others though I usually have issues really nailing down the feed into bloom so I see more fade and yellowing than is ideal I'd say

I'm a dum dum lol, how do they smell? I am real interested in growing some bodhi stuff eventually
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They are just starting to smell. So far they are Minty, Pepper and maybe arm pit? lol.
 
CannaGranny said:
Hey PC are you growing organic too?
I have done top dressing up to five weeks in very low ratio, and it worked. When I get in trouble like that, I top dress with Dr Earths flower girl. It’s full of crab etc like the stuff he has.
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No, but the plants don't care. if its low on the ions it needs to uptake they either need to be added or should have been added earlier as in more Worm Castings or some organic shit that would have supplied what it is now needing but once yellow always yellow there's no coming back from that now so coulda shoulda but no real harm other than losing a few leaves so wtf party on....almost out of breath on that one .....lol
 
CannaGranny said:
I’m always loathe to add N after three weeks in flower. It seems to throw it back into a veg state and it starts producing leaves like crazy. I use close to the same method that he does, but I also feed throughout the entire process with seaweed and kelp. Mine would look like that too, if I did not supplement.
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I'll point you to my chart on N.....loathe or not they still need some Green
 
CannaGranny said:
I’m always loathe to add N after three weeks in flower. It seems to throw it back into a veg state and it starts producing leaves like crazy. I use close to the same method that he does, but I also feed throughout the entire process with seaweed and kelp. Mine would look like that too, if I did not supplement.
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I use roots organic terp tea line with their feed schedule. It gives a shot of N by itself in week 2 and then again in week 5 along with a bloom and bloom boost.
 
Garbage_bear said:
Haha no I left that Shithole about eight years ago. I live in the Ochoco's. Nice private property.
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Up in the Pine trees. I rode my bike ( 10 speed ) ....through bend when I was in my 20's then up to Crater lake where I met a few guys and we hiked down to the lake for a swim. Almost lost my life on the way back up but I'd packed a 10 ft length of rope I was able to sling around a small tree to escape a small ledge I got stuck on...
Beautiful country below Bend but all that desert North of it had me panicking without enough water, I was lucky I met enough tourists to help me out at rest stops.
 
Pipecarver said:
Up in the Pine trees. I rode my bike ( 10 speed ) ....through bend when I was in my 20's then up to Crater lake where I met a few guys and we hiked down to the lake for a swim. Almost lost my life on the way back up but I'd packed a 10 ft length of rope I was able to sling around a small tree to escape a small ledge I got stuck on...
Beautiful country below Bend but all that desert North of it had me panicking without enough water, I was lucky I met enough tourists to help me out at rest stops.
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there's some pretty cool stuff to discover up there north of bend. lots of old abandoned railroad lines and whatnot. been meaning to make my way back out that way. there are some really great roads for scooting on two wheels, too. not heavily trafficked, few if any police, dry, clean...
 
Garbage_bear said:
Bend is now overrun with spandex, puffy coat wearing Subaru drivers and about as many homeless as Portland. It has changed for the worse. Lots of blue pill shooters and whatnot.
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i knew that was going to happen about ten years ago when i went down there for a vacation in sun river. hit up 10 barrel to get some growlers filled and i could just see the influx of californians coming in and recreating their all-the-same tiny boxes and shopping centers and whatnot. can't really blame em, the climate there is fantastic with four real seasons, the beauty of the PNW without the constant rain inherent to the cascades, and some of the best outdoors accessibility in the country.

but, with the fruits and nuts came the liberal policies, and with the liberal policies came the homeless. they're going to migrate to wherever there is a concentration of money and social warriors, it's just the way it is. there's a reason you don't see them as visibly in places like TX and NM -- people are fucking hostile down there even if NM leans more liberal than TX.
 
tobh said:
i knew that was going to happen about ten years ago when i went down there for a vacation in sun river. hit up 10 barrel to get some growlers filled and i could just see the influx of californians coming in and recreating their all-the-same tiny boxes and shopping centers and whatnot. can't really blame em, the climate there is fantastic with four real seasons, the beauty of the PNW without the constant rain inherent to the cascades, and some of the best outdoors accessibility in the country.

but, with the fruits and nuts came the liberal policies, and with the liberal policies came the homeless. they're going to migrate to wherever there is a concentration of money and social warriors, it's just the way it is. there's a reason you don't see them as visibly in places like TX and NM -- people are fucking hostile down there even if NM leans more liberal than TX.
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Yeah the Californians have taken it over and brought all the stupid policies with them. Brought lots of money in the area. It’s kind of like a rich ski town with tons of homeless now. Very liberal people running the city which of course brings all the liberal problems. I’m 60% redneck and 40% hippie so the redneck in me said let’s get the hell out of this mini San Diego and I moved into the mountains, super private pine tree farm in the Ochocos.

The homeless thing has just been in the last few years. They literally migrated here from wherever because measure 110 basically legalized hard drugs. My buddy runs a rental shop across the street from the homeless shelter they put in. Boy he has told me some stories. One dude went ape shit and attacked a car with a machete, one lady was found all beat up with her pants off in front of the shop, and on and on it goes. They put tents up all in front of his shop so they put the generators facing their tents and ran them all day to make em leave.

It’s quite sad seeing the huge divide in wealth and rampant homelessness. Anyway I’m out of there and growing weed in the mountains. I feel as free as it gets in this country at the moment.
 
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