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Green Crack on left, last day of week 3.

Apple Gelato on right, last day of week 4.

Green is now the bigger of the two plants. It had been about 25% smaller ever since they popped out of the soil. But the stretch and early flower growth has been amazing.

The aroma of Green Crack is a candy sweet lemons while Apple Gelato is a musky, funk skunk.

I’m not sure these are the final smells as we’re still early in the flowering stage, but if they stay this way, I’ll be very pleased.

Buds are already very sizable, significant bulk for this stage of growth. IMG_3314.jpegIMG_3315.jpegIMG_3316.jpegIMG_3318.jpegIMG_3321.jpegIMG_3325.jpegIMG_3324.jpeg
 
Today is the end of week 5 since flip.

Apple Gelato, on right, is at week 4 since true bud formation.

Green Crack, on left, is week 3 since true bud formation. This one has caught up and is now bulkier than the Apple Gelato.

Both plants just finished three gallons of nutrients. Two gallons were flower stacker and ca-mag/iron, fulvic acid and golden tree. The third gallon is enzymes, great white and molasses. IMG_3335.jpegIMG_3336.jpegIMG_3337.jpegIMG_3338.jpegIMG_3339.jpegIMG_3340.jpegIMG_3341.jpegIMG_3342.jpegIMG_3343.jpegIMG_3344.jpegIMG_3345.jpegIMG_3346.jpegIMG_3347.jpeg
 
The difference in week four (Green Crack) versus week five (Apple Gelato) is more visible when viewed from the side than the top.

Green Crack is still narrow as they are still filling out. Apple is more pyramidal in shape. IMG_3453.jpegIMG_3455.jpeg
 
Green Crack, middle of week five.
I feel like it’s slightly unhappy with the feed cocktail, slightly burnt tips.

Which nutrient does this? Am I hot on P or K or am I locked out with Ca?

It’s not bad yet, but I don’t want it to progress.

Using Humbolt secrets nutrient line.
Feeds are always below 500 ppm, usually ph 6.3 to 6.7.

Peat based soil.

Temperature with lights on upper sixties to upper seventies, hitting low eighties for about two hours a day. IMG_3557.jpegIMG_3556.jpegIMG_3555.jpeg
 
TomH said:
Green Crack, middle of week five.
I feel like it’s slightly unhappy with the feed cocktail, slightly burnt tips.

Which nutrient does this? Am I hot on P or K or am I locked out with Ca?

It’s not bad yet, but I don’t want it to progress.

Using Humbolt secrets nutrient line.
Feeds are always below 500 ppm, usually ph 6.3 to 6.7.

Peat based soil.

Temperature with lights on upper sixties to upper seventies, hitting low eighties for about two hours a day. View attachment 92704View attachment 92705View attachment 92706
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I don't have a recommendation. Just trying to follow along and am curious: Are you feeding the Green Crack the same as the Apple Gelato and the Green Crack is responding differently?
 
BlueCollarBob said:
I don't have a recommendation. Just trying to follow along and am curious: Are you feeding the Green Crack the same as the Apple Gelato and the Green Crack is responding differently?
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Yes and yes, I have noticed Green Crack likes a lower feed, so I’ve been feeding both at lower levels, but I just don’t want it getting out of hand in the last weeks or.

If I can figure out what is amiss, I can feed her a different solution and keep her happy. But I don’t know what’s causing the burnt edges.
 
TomH said:
Yes and yes, I have noticed Green Crack likes a lower feed, so I’ve been feeding both at lower levels, but I just don’t want it getting out of hand in the last weeks or.

If I can figure out what is amiss, I can feed her a different solution and keep her happy. But I don’t know what’s causing the burnt edges.
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Thanks! I'll bet someone here has some ideas. I always enjoy following your grows 🍿.
 
I usually assume it is N with tip burn even though it could be either of the big 3 [ NPK].
I have never flushed but it is a quick fix to use and then re feed 50% stregnth.
Being a slacker I would just feed plain water next time or two. Maybe still Ca/Mg but no big 3.
 
Friday will be eight weeks since 12:12 light.
Green crack on left, is closing out week five of actual flower. Has a very sweet lemony aroma, tons of sticky sugar. About 50% of stigmas have turned a gorgeous orange color.

Apple Gelato on right, finishing week six of flower. Bud tips and sugar leaf edges showing purple. Very sugary. About 40% stigmas have turned orange. IMG_3597.jpegIMG_3598.jpegIMG_3599.jpegIMG_3600.jpegIMG_3601.jpegIMG_3602.jpegIMG_3603.jpegIMG_3604.jpegIMG_3605.jpegIMG_3609.jpegIMG_3606.jpegIMG_3607.jpegIMG_3608.jpegIMG_3610.jpegIMG_3611.jpegIMG_3612.jpegIMG_3615.jpegIMG_3616.jpegIMG_3620.jpeg
 
So how much longer till chop?
I usually start the clock when I flip the light cycle so I see you at 8 weeks not 5 or 6.
I know you said you start the clock when you see buds forming.
They looked dialed in nicely.
 
steamroller said:
So how much longer till chop?
I usually start the clock when I flip the light cycle so I see you at 8 weeks not 5 or 6.
I know you said you start the clock when you see buds forming.
They looked dialed in nicely.
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I kinda think that using this method, I’ll chop at the 9 to 9.5 weeks that the breeder recommends. Given that, I’m looking at the first or second week in April.

Thank you for the complement. Good genetics really make a huge difference. I hope they smell and taste as good as they look.
 
Last glamour shots for the week.
Late flower but still some white stigmas on the buds and new white hair keeps popping out but the majority are now a very attractive orange in both plants.

Expect another four weeks before chop, but will consult the oracle of trichomes before chopping. IMG_3635.jpegIMG_3636.jpegIMG_3637.jpegIMG_3638.jpegIMG_3640.jpegIMG_3641.jpegIMG_3642.jpegIMG_3645.jpegIMG_3649.jpegIMG_3648.jpegIMG_3647.jpegIMG_3650.jpeg
 
They have been drinking between 3 and 4 gal of water/nutrients or water only, twice a week since they flipped.

Last Tuesday, my GF noticed significant runoff at 2 gal.
This morning (Sat), I noticed the same thing. Significant runoff at 2 gal.

From here on, they will be getting water only, no nutrients and the axe is getting close, I am planning on 2 weeks from today.

Lights are turned down, probably 50% on main, side lights are off and the fruiting bulb is still at 100% (but its small - 35w). Temps will be in the mid 60s over night and ambient temp during the day (no AC).

Time seems to slow down when you’re waiting to chop!
 
Hey @TomH, I really enjoy following your grows, man! Thanks for taking the time to share everything.

Quick question: Did the seeds for your Green Crack germinate normally? I bought a 5 pack of GC from the same vendor (Captain Red Beard's) and I failed to get the first two I tried to germinate. Odds are it's something I did wrong, but other seeds I did at the same time did fine. Just wondering if you did anything differently to germinate Green Crack versus your other seeds. Hoping to set things up for the best shot at success with my second effort. I'm excited to see what you think of the Green Crack. It's on my "really want to try" list.

Happy growing!
 
BlueCollarBob said:
Hey @TomH, I really enjoy following your grows, man! Thanks for taking the time to share everything.

Quick question: Did the seeds for your Green Crack germinate normally? I bought a 5 pack of GC from the same vendor (Captain Red Beard's) and I failed to get the first two I tried to germinate. Odds are it's something I did wrong, but other seeds I did at the same time did fine. Just wondering if you did anything differently to germinate Green Crack versus your other seeds. Hoping to set things up for the best shot at success with my second effort. I'm excited to see what you think of the Green Crack. It's on my "really want to try" list.

Happy growing!
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Yes on the germination question, but I tried one seed from the pack, it popped just fine.
I recall that both GC and the other plant were both the fastest germinations I’ve had success with.
I soaked in water/peroxide (50:50 with 3%) 18 hours, 1 day in a paper towel and then into soil. They were up above soil in about 3 days.

I’m so ready to give both a try. Trichs are still clear and some white. Nothing changing color yet (in the buds). There are some red trichs on the sugar leaves but not in the buds.
 
TomH said:
Yes on the germination question, but I tried one seed from the pack, it popped just fine.
I recall that both GC and the other plant were both the fastest germinations I’ve had success with.
I soaked in water/peroxide (50:50 with 3%) 18 hours, 1 day in a paper towel and then into soil. They were up above soil in about 3 days.

I’m so ready to give both a try. Trichs are still clear and some white. Nothing changing color yet (in the buds). There are some red trichs on the sugar leaves but not in the buds.
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Thanks. I think I'll try the diluted peroxide on the next effort. A tiny sample, but it still threw me off when the other 6 seeds germinated quick and easy, but nothing from either of the Green Crack seeds.

I didn't anticipate all of that color you're getting. It looks delicious. I'm looking forward to your smoke report. The Apple Gelato is looking awfully nice, too.
 
These girls are slowing down significantly.

It’s been five days since last drink, both plants are still slightly damp on the skewer.

Tomorrow or Saturday for the next drink. Might be the last before chop.

Tomorrow is day 63 since 12:12 flip.

Planning to chop Saturday April 5.
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Day 63 since flip, both are nearing the finish line. As planned, a week from tomorrow is harvest, I will of course, check the Oracle of trichomes prior to continuing with the chop.
The color of the plants tells me they aren’t yet ripe. 🤞🤞🤞🤞this coming week gets us ready. IMG_4115.jpegIMG_4116.jpegIMG_4117.jpegIMG_4118.jpegIMG_4119.jpegIMG_4120.jpegIMG_4121.jpegIMG_4122.jpegIMG_4123.jpegIMG_4124.jpegIMG_4125.jpegIMG_4129.jpegIMG_4127.jpegIMG_4131.jpegIMG_4135.jpegIMG_4134.jpeg
 
Current temp 77 degrees, 47%RH.
It’s been six days since last drink, they both shared 2 gal today. Probably the last.
Overnight temps are 65 degrees with a 50% sustained RH (it pops into 60%s about 30 min after lights out then back down to 50%).
 
BlueCollarBob said:
I didn't anticipate all of that color you're getting. It looks delicious. I'm looking forward to your smoke report. The Apple Gelato is looking awfully nice, too.
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I believe the color on the green crack is the effect of a particular additional light I use in early and mid flowering.

When I saw a leaf that was shaded is far greener than the canopy top leaves.

Not sure how that will affect yield, taste, smell nor affect but they look nice.

Here’s the light, I hung it between a couple bars in my 230 watt light.

About 30” above canopy at flip time, currently about 18” to 20” above cola tops. IMG_4160.jpegIMG_4161.jpegIMG_4162.jpeg
 
TomH said:
I believe the color on the green crack is the effect of a particular additional light I use in early and mid flowering.

When I saw a leaf that was shaded is far greener than the canopy top leaves.
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That's pretty wild. The shaded leaf being colored differently sure sounds like a promising clue that you're right about the new light.
TomH said:
Not sure how that will affect yield, taste, smell nor affect but they look nice.
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I'm hoping for good things. I'll bet it smokes as good as it looks.
TomH said:
Here’s the light, I hung it between a couple bars in my 230 watt light.
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That looks interesting. Before I saw it was led, my thought thought was that it had a big heatsink wrapped around a bulb.

I've been reading up on supplemental lighting. Found an interesting study focussed on light intensity and fertilizer dilution. I came away from reading it wondering about my humidity, lol.
TomH said:
About 30” above canopy at flip time, currently about 18” to 20” above cola tops.
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