Foliar Feeding Recommended Droplet Size or Fogger

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I wish to foliar feed my outdoor plants this Summer. A first for me.

Using recommended nutrients for this purpose. So the added nutrient solution will not have any impact on device or device nozzles per se.

My questions are...

1) What do you recommend for a droplet size, if not using a traditional Fogger?

2) What sprayer/mister do you recommend, that delivers the recommended droplet size?

3) What fogger do you recommend?

4) Am I over thinking my research that determined droplet size had a real impact on foliar feeding success?

5) Can you help me find my research, so that I don't have to post this?
 
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4. smaller droplet size plays more of a role on the roots, to change their morphology, the leafs will/can absorb the water/bigger droplets regardless.

Smaller droplet size would mean an increase in surface area and maybe make it easier and quicker for the leafs to absorb, but isn't as critical.

Just a basic spray bottle with a low PPM concentration will work for foliar feeding, but a finer mist is perhaps more effective. Faster & Easier to Absorb.

I don't know what you're outdoor garden scale would be, maybe a 5gallon backpack sprayer would be best, or just a 7$ pump sprayer from Walmart for a few "medium" sized plants.


Otherwise get something like a cannafogger, someone I once knew bought that and loved it, or something similar, to the scale of you're needs.




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I see the devices you attached as I continue researching...lol. Thanks man.

Yes, large droplets fall off the leaf and that is not ideal. I get it. It's obvious that water is water. And there are large droplets on leaves. But, it's not the same when we think about other factors that influence the effectiveness of foliar feeding. For example, surfactant and its incredible ability to reduce surface tension, making it easier for the water to be absorbed. And that brings me to where I am now. Trying to find my old research, now that I am ready to add this to my gardens feeding methodology. And that includes food too, lol.

Think surfactant or making water wetter (sounds so silly, but that is how they market it) with Yucca. There is clearly scientific research to support more wettable soil by using wetting agents.

I will post what I find, and thanks again.

Oh, here is what inspired me to continue down this path...

I was watching NBCs "The Americas" episode 9. The title is "The West Coast". In this episode they speak to the cold waters of the Pacific Ocean mixing with the warm air from the coastland. This creates a thick blinding FOG. This fog is rich in Nitrogen and Phosphorus, from the Ocean. Wait for it...this fog moves into and thru the canopy of some of the oldest and tallest trees in the world, "Redwoods". The fog provides 50% of their nutrients and water thru foliar feeding. AMAZING

So, now I have to mimic nature and learn more so that it will be successful lol. Hey, I got nothing else to do on a Thursday, cuz I am old and retired.

Thought I would post the question and see where everyone is, and then start getting to work on learning and sharing. Again, I know it's not important, I am just bored and having fun.

Here is a short read, but doesn't address droplet size.

 
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I use a few different spray bottles with the nozzles that can mist or spray and when I'm feeling all fancy pants and techy, I use a USB rechargeable spray bottle by AC Infinity. It's really nice and big too!
I spray until there's run off the leaves. Basically simulate a heavy rain.
Never needed a fogger but I think those are for greenhouses. There's also sulfur burners but never needed to use that either
 
Another article that is a little heavy on the science side, but a good one.


I was looking at this section of bullet points specifically...

Additional points to consider when foliar feeding crops include:

  • Foliar feeding the micro-nutrients appears to be much more effective than the macro-nutrients.
  • If practiced, foliar feeding should be done when the air is relatively cool (around 72°F). For most summer crops this dictates early morning or late evening application.
  • Do not apply foliar fertilizer to the point that droplets form on leaf surfaces—this encourages leaf burn.
  • It is better to apply weaker concentrations of foliar feed more frequently than stronger concentrations less frequently.
  • As with any new cultural practice, initiate foliar feeding on a trial basis first.
In short, foliar feeding is usually not the most cost effective method of supplying nutrients to plants. However, it has proven to be an effective method of treating certain nutrient deficiencies and (perhaps) boosting plant growth in times of stress. Growers wishing to initiate a foliar feeding program should research the subject well before proceeding.

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Another article for review.


Here is what was interesting...

Foliar feeding should be applied with a sprayer that can produce a mist for best results. The smaller the droplet size, the better the nutrients will absorb. Spray all surfaces of the leaves and stems.​

You can use a surfactant, such as coconut oil or a mild soap (1/4 tsp. per gallon of spray), to ensure better coverage of the leaves. Otherwise the spray may bead up on the foliage and you won’t get as much benefit.​


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I Googled it again and Google said this...(I use DuckDuckGo typically.)

For effective foliar feeding, a droplet size of 200 to 350 microns is generally recommended. This range allows for good coverage and absorption of nutrients by the plant leaves. Avoid droplets smaller than 100 microns, as they may drift, and larger droplets (over 350 microns) may not be as effective due to potential runoff.

Elaboration:
  • Droplet Size Matters:
    The size of the droplets applied to plant leaves significantly impacts how well they absorb nutrients.

  • Optimal Range:
    A medium to slightly coarse droplet size, falling within the 200-350 micron range, provides a good balance between coverage, absorption, and minimal drift.

  • Fine vs. Coarse:
    Smaller droplets (under 100 microns) can be carried away by wind, leading to nutrient loss (drift). Larger droplets (over 350 microns) may not adhere well to the leaf surface and can run off, reducing effectiveness.

  • Nozzle Choice:
    The type of spray nozzle used is crucial in determining droplet size. Selecting a nozzle that produces the desired droplet size range is important for effective foliar feeding.
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I attached a PDF that really takes a deep dive. The unfortunate part about this document is that it does not directly speak to "feeding". It also lacks direct pointers to the devices or mechanical parts needed to achieve the desired rates of flow, drift or droplet size that I am seeking.

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Okay, enough for now. I will post any device or nozzle, etc., that meets the requirements based on this research. Please feel free to peer review and put ne on the correct path if I have been mistaken in my research and thank you.


Below is a screenshot of PDF, in case you don't want to open a PDF.


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Here is another screenshot of nozzle selections...


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I own this Petratools HD101. With a high psi (40-60) and the correct nozzle, this might work. It will take some time to find nozzles that fit, but it should be a standard thread size for this application. So, it is a matter of using the charts I posted. Petratools does not supply nozzle accessories and has not responded to my questions regarding droplet size, with the supplied nozzles.

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I just purchased this Cannafogger from the same company. On sale now for $80. I am excited and happy to get $20 off and free shipping. Fuck Amazon. I have yet to fail in going to Amazon to find what I want, then going directly to manufacturing website and find the same promotion and free shipping. Doing this fucks Amazon for supporting hate by backing the orange clown. It also helps the manufacturer. All it cost me was, 45 seconds. I love sticking it to the rich fucks that have stolen from us to gain their wealth.

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I have three other pump sprayers. One backpack, and two portable tanks, much like the HD101. They are dedicated to weed control and pest control. I do not wish to mix any ingredients in any tank. Science is scary. Just mix some bleach with ammonia and you will know immediately what I mean. So, the HD101 has been delegated to feeding, as well as the Cannafogger.

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Okay, this is all I got. I like the information he presented. It does sound like a little overkill at the same that it completely makes sense. LOL

 
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