Kuwl...... MH FC 8000 EVO + 6 Plants

[Pipecarver]

I put my seeds in the final pot right off the bat so have no experience with using sunshine 4 in starter cups no up potting for me one and done.

I don't know how you can do that, small plants in large pots makes watering properly difficult. I guess like everything experience has its benefits. I feed the pot not the plant in soil until they hit the AP's.

I used the Google Ai feature and compared VPW30 - Sunshine Mix #4. They are comparable but there's no starter charge in the VPW30. I always treated them the same and I thought the VPW had a charge in it as well ( I don't read the fine print very often).

I have some leaf problems now from not giving them a regular dose of Epsom salts, I kept forgetting to add and now I've a few leaf issues. They'll get better now that I'm on it but its always something.

 

[Zen_seeker]

I don't know how you can do that, small plants in large pots makes watering properly difficult. I guess like everything experience has its benefits. I feed the pot not the plant in soil until they hit the AP's.

I used the Google Ai feature and compared VPW30 - Sunshine Mix #4. They are comparable but there's no starter charge in the VPW30. I always treated them the same and I thought the VPW had a charge in it as well ( I don't read the fine print very often).

I have some leaf problems now from not giving them a regular dose of Epsom salts, I kept forgetting to add and now I've a few leaf issues. They'll get better now that I'm on it but its always something.

I don’t think the older blue bushels of SSM#4 were charged. The newer black ones might be.

 

[Pipecarver]

I don’t think the older blue bushels of SSM#4 were charged. The newer black ones might be.

I just asked to compare Greenworld VPW30 to Sunshine Mix #4 for growing cannabis

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Both
Greenworld VPW30 and Sunshine Mix #4 are effective peat-based growing media for cannabis, with the main difference being the perlite concentration and the need for nutrient supplementation.

• Greenworld VPW30 comes pre-mixed with a higher perlite content (around 30%), offering excellent drainage and aeration, and is often a more budget-friendly option.
• Sunshine Mix #4 is an OMRI-listed (Organic Materials Review Institute) mix that includes beneficial mycorrhizae, which helps with nutrient uptake and root health. Its perlite content is typically lower (around 17-20%).

Both mixes are primarily composed of Canadian Sphagnum Peat Moss and perlite, designed for high aeration and excellent drainage. They are considered "inert" or soilless media, meaning you have full control over the nutrient schedule from early on in the plant's life cycle.

Feature

	Greenworld VPW30	Sunshine Mix #4
Primary Ingredient	Canadian Sphagnum Peat Moss (approx. 70%)	Canadian Sphagnum Peat Moss
Aeration	Coarse Perlite (approx. 25%), Coarse Vermiculite (approx. 5%)	Horticultural Grade Perlite
Nutrient Content	Starter charge included	Starter nutrient charge with gypsum and dolomite lime
pH Level	Slightly acidic, balanced by lime	pH range of 5.0-7.0, buffered with dolomite lime
Key Advantage	High air capacity and moisture retention	High air capacity and rapid drainage, often includes Mycorrhizae

 

[Zen_seeker]

I just asked

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Both
Greenworld VPW30 and Sunshine Mix #4 are effective peat-based growing media for cannabis, with the main difference being the perlite concentration and the need for nutrient supplementation.

• Greenworld VPW30 comes pre-mixed with a higher perlite content (around 30%), offering excellent drainage and aeration, and is often a more budget-friendly option.
• Sunshine Mix #4 is an OMRI-listed (Organic Materials Review Institute) mix that includes beneficial mycorrhizae, which helps with nutrient uptake and root health. Its perlite content is typically lower (around 17-20%).

I’ll have to see if the last bales wrapper is still in the garage. Pretty sure it didn’t but you know how old stoners memory goes.

 

[Pipecarver]

I’ll have to see if the last bales wrapper is still in the garage. Pretty sure it didn’t but you know how old stoners memory goes.

These are not the compressed bales, they are lose pack with some chunks 80L/2.8cu/ft. I used to get the solid 3.2cu/ft bales around $35. These bags are easier to handle, those old bales were supposed to be like 50lbs but left outside in their yards they turned to 100lbs after a few rains.

 

[Kuwl]

Second opinion
I believe these spots are a bug, mites?
or thripes I have to check with a mag glass as I cannot see.
None of the other plants have them.
gtg eat, here's a pic

 

[Kuwl]

Second opinion
I believe these spots are a bug, mites?
or thripes I have to check with a mag glass as I cannot see.
None of the other plants have them.
gtg eat, here's a pic
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Better pic but nope, no bugs, that I can see with the loup.
From problem leaf pic's, it's a early Calcium def., Guess I will feed a 2/2/2/2 + 1/2ml r + 1/2 tsp es

 

[Pipecarver]

Second opinion
I believe these spots are a bug, mites?
or thripes I have to check with a mag glass as I cannot see.
None of the other plants have them.
gtg eat, here's a pic
View attachment 120022

I don't think they are bugs from what I see. I get funky spots and deformed leaves early a lot of times. I think its just a temperamental/ finicky plant., doesn't like the ph or soil or air pressure/humidity but will eventually adjust

 

[Zen_seeker]

These are not the compressed bales, they are lose pack with some chunks 80L/2.8cu/ft. I used to get the solid 3.2cu/ft bales around $35. These bags are easier to handle, those old bales were supposed to be like 50lbs but left outside in their yards they turned to 100lbs after a few rains.

Ah, that’s it then. Mine are compressed. Good to know if it comes up again. Carry on.

 

[Zen_seeker]

Second opinion
I believe these spots are a bug, mites?
or thripes I have to check with a mag glass as I cannot see.
None of the other plants have them.
gtg eat, here's a pic
View attachment 120022

I’ve seen that on mine when over watered. You mean the white lines yes?

Leaves get weird and chubby too.

 

[Kuwl]

I re-potted them today.
All but the 2 seedlings (Runtz/AHLJ)
The root look skimpy but pretty good in length.
I put the 2 WT's in one pot, from there it will go into the XXL AP.
They look ok so far, now if I can just keep my hands off them. haha
I'll have to get a note book to keep track of all of them, with dif start/feed times an all.

Took the pic from the cam down there, to lazy to go down there again lol.

 

[Kuwl]

Let's see now:
Runtz @ 1 wk old
AHLJ @ 1 wk old
White Truffles x2 @ 2 wks old
Tangi Dream @ 2 wks old
Sun Daze Haze @ 6 wks old
That's close enough, so I check on the pots this morning and lift each one to see how light.
SDH was light again after a minimimal watering with plain PH'ed (was at 7.5 ph'ed it down to 6.5) water.
As I see the high N in this plant. When I checked the run off it was 2300 so just plain water till that calms down.
Now after only a few days it's dry again. I watered again because it does not look like it needs any more nutes added.
Next time I will add a 4/4/4/, (Micro/Grow/Bloom) to give it some fresh nutes.
This plant is very very green and lush and bushy as heck, the only plant to survive my soil mix.

Only problem I see is the one WT with some yellowing bottom leaves.
The other WT is responding well. In fact all the plants are doing ok except that one.
I hope it don't stunt again but I do not see any growth with that one.

Tangi Dream doing much better now

The new kids in the cups
Runtz n AHLJ

Sun Daze Haze I topped it once so far.

Family pic

Being careful I don't water till the pots are dry enough, keeping track of it.
SDH is drying out fast, 2 or 3 days, the roots must be big.

 

[steamroller]

I would pull the yellow leaves and the ones next to them/ the whole cluster of 3 blades if they touch the soil.
You don't want your leaves resting on the soil.
They all look to be doing much better.

 

[Kuwl]

Things are getting squirrely over here

 

[Kuwl]

Progress
I let the pots get bone dry before watering with PH water, cause my PH lvl for tap is 7.5 give or take 2.
Still no nutes going in it. The big SDH is doing much better, the dark green leaves are finally fading to a more normal green.
The plants in the solo's (Runtz/SHLJ) are getting along fine and so is Tangi Dream in the gal. pot.
White Truffle plants are doing well except for the one that had yellow leaves is not doing much of anything. Stalled again.
Still a nice color green and no yellowing or burning just sitting there, not growing or developing. The other WT has over taken it.

I raised the light over SDH from 13" to 16" and increased it to 50%.
Lux reads are about 36k over SDH - 27k over TD/WT's - 19% over Runtz/AHLJ in the solo's.
I got a note book to keep track of everything cause it's a cluster f in my head.
I'm thinking of transplanting the SDH to the AP pot to be done with it and maybe TD and WT's too.
Maybe I'll wait another week and do them all in the AP's. idk
But so far so good.
I think the numbers look ok.

 

[Kuwl]

Stripped the SDH today, it was to thick with too many fan leaves.
She was bone dry again. That was fast so I'm gonna transfere to AP's tomorrow.
Also fed her a 3/3/3/3 (Micro, Grow, Bloom, Mag ) with no ES, the leaves are still so dark.
Topped TD and the larger WT, also topped SDH again.
They are taking off and doing well, it's nice to see some growth.
Just remembered to order some clay balls, should be here tomorrow, it says.

 

[Kuwl]

Been going to a chiropracter for a few weeks now. 3 times a wk and it has helped my back problems immensely.
Insurence does not cover tho yipees!! So I gotta whip out a credit card to pay for 20 hands on and 20 visits to the decompresion machine.
But it worked so good I don't care too much. I feel like I did before I hurt it and actually much better.
Ah It's only $, my quality of life is more important to me.
I feel so much better but now I'm more careful to not go beyond my limitations.
Wifey now going with me as her car ins is going to cover it.
We go together so it's great to have her with me!

Transplant day and my clayballs have not arrived,
I used what I had left and got the 2 WT's into the XXL AP pot and the SDH into a lg AP.
WOW the roots on the SDH but I figured that.
The others had a fair root system going.
The TD is getting done tomorrow when I get re supplied with clay balls.
Could not find the big bags of balls, like PipeCarver has. Guess only Canada has it.
Also did the Runtz and AHLJ into gallon pots for a couple of weeks then they get to fo into the AP's too.
Week after that the Auto Pot System gets turned on, if all goes well. haha
Man that XXL pot is huge!! Should be interesting to watch how the WT's perform.

Merry Christmas n Happy Holidays and a Happy New Year to all @ Bud Builders

 

[Pipecarver]

Been going to a chiropracter for a few weeks now. 3 times a wk and it has helped my back problems immensely.
Insurence does not cover tho yipees!! So I gotta whip out a credit card to pay for 20 hands on and 20 visits to the decompresion machine.
But it worked so good I don't care too much. I feel like I did before I hurt it and actually much better.
Ah It's only $, my quality of life is more important to me.
I feel so much better but now I'm more careful to not go beyond my limitations.
Wifey now going with me as her car ins is going to cover it.
We go together so it's great to have her with me!

Transplant day and my clayballs have not arrived,
I used what I had left and got the 2 WT's into the XXL AP pot and the SDH into a lg AP.
WOW the roots on the SDH but I figured that.
The others had a fair root system going.
The TD is getting done tomorrow when I get re supplied with clay balls.
Could not find the big bags of balls, like PipeCarver has. Guess only Canada has it.
Also did the Runtz and AHLJ into gallon pots for a couple of weeks then they get to fo into the AP's too.
Week after that the Auto Pot System gets turned on, if all goes well. haha
Man that XXL pot is huge!! Should be interesting to watch how the WT's perform.
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Merry Christmas n Happy Holidays and a Happy New Year to all @ Bud Builders

I got my last bag at a grow shop but I've been getting them at Halifax Grain & Seed an urban grow store more inline with Vegetable gardening than weed but they have some hydroponic stuff as well.

 

[Kuwl]

Been going to a chiropracter for a few weeks now. 3 times a wk and it has helped my back problems immensely.
Insurence does not cover tho yipees!! So I gotta whip out a credit card to pay for 20 hands on and 20 visits to the decompresion machine.
But it worked so good I don't care too much. I feel like I did before I hurt it and actually much better.
Ah It's only $, my quality of life is more important to me.
I feel so much better but now I'm more careful to not go beyond my limitations.
Wifey now going with me as her car ins is going to cover it.
We go together so it's great to have her with me!

Transplant day and my clayballs have not arrived,
I used what I had left and got the 2 WT's into the XXL AP pot and the SDH into a lg AP.
WOW the roots on the SDH but I figured that.
The others had a fair root system going.
The TD is getting done tomorrow when I get re supplied with clay balls.
Could not find the big bags of balls, like PipeCarver has. Guess only Canada has it.
Also did the Runtz and AHLJ into gallon pots for a couple of weeks then they get to fo into the AP's too.
Week after that the Auto Pot System gets turned on, if all goes well. haha
Man that XXL pot is huge!! Should be interesting to watch how the WT's perform.
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Merry Christmas n Happy Holidays and a Happy New Year to all @ Bud Builders

Forgot this pic of the Sun Daze Haze Roots omg!
I probably should have broken them up a bit before popping them in the new pot.

 

[Pipecarver]

Forgot this pic of the Sun Daze Haze Roots omg!
I probably should have broken them up a bit before popping them in the new pot.
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Wow, you are doing something right eh, I never get roots like that before a transplant, these were mine I thought was good but mine look pretty sad comparatively.

 

[Kuwl]

Wow, you are doing something right eh, I never get roots like that before a transplant, these were mine I thought was good but mine look pretty sad comparatively. View attachment 120747

Them roots of yours look more normal, mine are usually but this particular plant is bout 7 wks old and still in veg.
I think it was the soil mix which was a very hot mix and killed all but this one plant (Sun Daze Haze). Must be extremly hardy.
The staulk is thick also. Dunno why that mix was bad for the others cause I've used similar soil mixes before and plants were fine with it.
The other plants that I did today looked more like yours.
I did add some compost and worm castings to the final pot mix but very little.
The SM#4 seems like it has a charge that last me about 10 days cause I have to add some nutes before the 2 week transplant.
2 more wks then all will be in AP's then another wk or so and the system will be turned on and so will the flower schedule.

 

[Kuwl]

I think this summer I'm going to insulate the cellar room.
To keep it sealed up better and lose less heat.
Nothing much happening but all the snow gone and prob will come back over the next few days.
Freezing for a week then it gets above 32 and it all melts then comes more freezing weather.
The dips have been colder it seems or I'm gettin older dunno.

5 am and I was slightly awake. Heard my wife taking out the dog.
She started to yell at Sky then louder and louder then I heard her rush out the door.
I got out of bed fast as I could and ran to the door, seen she wasn't there and I ran outside.
I looked and wifey, in her nightgown, was on the ground screaming at Sky, holding her but it was dark and I couldn't see.
I grabbed a broom and a walking stick and I ran through the mud and grass,
it was raining out, seen her on the ground but not much else. I gave a broom wack at Sky to let it go.
The back porch light was on but still could not see much.
I reached down and then I saw what was going on, Sky has a racoon's neck in her jaws and would not release.
Wifey had Sky around her chest pulling so I grabbed her back legs but slipped and down I went too.
I finally used everything I had to hold on to her back legs and pulled back while sitting in the wet mess and
finally Sky let go and the coon jumped up on the Tracktor cover. I was pissed, Sky would not obey one command.

Well, I know I got 5 cats now and the dog but those 2 in the pantry.
I put the oil heater out there and all but but but......wifey keeps saying NO!
Then I break her down and she says..... maybe
After some more massaging she says, It's up to you.
Soooo today I brought in Buddy - the female tabby and Patches - the male cow cat, into our home to stay, if they want.
I think Buddy, the female tabby was someone's cat cause she takes to my room like she always lived there.
Patches treats Buddy like mother and visa versa.
That's it, 7 is my limit!!!
I think it will all turn out ok.

 

[Pipecarver]

I think this summer I'm going to insulate the cellar room.
To keep it sealed up better and lose less heat.
Nothing much happening but all the snow gone and prob will come back over the next few days.
Freezing for a week then it gets above 32 and it all melts then comes more freezing weather.
The dips have been colder it seems or I'm gettin older dunno.

5 am and I was slightly awake. Heard my wife taking out the dog.
She started to yell at Sky then louder and louder then I heard her rush out the door.
I got out of bed fast as I could and ran to the door, seen she wasn't there and I ran outside.
I looked and wifey, in her nightgown, was on the ground screaming at Sky, holding her but it was dark and I couldn't see.
I grabbed a broom and a walking stick and I ran through the mud and grass,
it was raining out, seen her on the ground but not much else. I gave a broom wack at Sky to let it go.
The back porch light was on but still could not see much.
I reached down and then I saw what was going on, Sky has a racoon's neck in her jaws and would not release.
Wifey had Sky around her chest pulling so I grabbed her back legs but slipped and down I went too.
I finally used everything I had to hold on to her back legs and pulled back while sitting in the wet mess and
finally Sky let go and the coon jumped up on the Tracktor cover. I was pissed, Sky would not obey one command.

Well, I know I got 5 cats now and the dog but those 2 in the pantry.
I put the oil heater out there and all but but but......wifey keeps saying NO!
Then I break her down and she says..... maybe
After some more massaging she says, It's up to you.
Soooo today I brought in Buddy - the female tabby and Patches - the male cow cat, into our home to stay, if they want.
I think Buddy, the female tabby was someone's cat cause she takes to my room like she always lived there.
Patches treats Buddy like mother and visa versa.
That's it, 7 is my limit!!!
I think it will all turn out ok.
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You paint a funny picture, out in the dark wet on yer ass holding on to your dogs rear legs with a racoon hanging out of your dogs mouth, sounds like a cartoon...lol.....My wife says 3 cats is enough but now that I know you can get them ( fem types) to cave with some gentle persuasion....lol....na our boys are all friends now and bring in another would cause stress, When we got Dusky Coal hated everything black for months, He'd been in a good mood with just Qnight around but there was a lot of hissing and spitting adding Dusky. He took it out on both of them..