Mold in Oregon dispensary herb!

[Garbage_bear]

I found a place that sells $30 oz. Well several of those oz taste like freaking mold!! I know Oregon tests but if they only test four ounces out of fifty pounds they could miss it and I think they did. Two different strains taste moldy. Gross.

Can I use 190 proof ethanol and make a tincture? I know how I’m just wondering if it would kill the mold. I’m not smoking that crap.

 

[Rootsruler]

At one of the meetings I attended in Sacramento when Cali was still trying to figure it out, I had suggested that they carve out a connoisseur proposal for boutique weed. I told them that commercial weed would have a problem much like whats been discussed here in terms of quality. They assured me that the labs would be the frontline defense against that. Uh hu.......

 

[Observer]

Unless labs are "corrupt" too lol

Which is not surprising at all

Just, god damn

 

[Rootsruler]

Unless labs are "corrupt" too lol

Which is not surprising at all

Just, god damn

Bro! The moment the Benjamins show up corruption is front and center.

I had responded by telling them what if the labs cheat? They were horrified at the mere mention. I had suggested that if they really wanted a gate keeper they needed to set up state controlled labs to minimize any influence that may be directed at the lab.

 

[tobh]

Bro! The moment the Benjamins show up corruption is front and center.

I had responded by telling them what if the labs cheat? They were horrified at the mere mention. I had suggested that if they really wanted a gate keeper they needed to set up state controlled labs to minimize any influence that may be directed at the lab.

Even that isn't a sure-fire way of dealing with the fundamental problem. Oregon is a prime example with the requirement that all dispos and testing facilities be Metrc certified. At the first company I worked for I went through all the training to get certified because we were looking at building an inventory management system for dispos, and the level of dog and pony show involved in "compliance" is arguably worse than companies getting their SOC II Type 2 audits done. Nothing more than a bunch of check boxes with no actual controls to prevent corruption.

 

[Rootsruler]

Even that isn't a sure-fire way of dealing with the fundamental problem. Oregon is a prime example with the requirement that all dispos and testing facilities be Metrc certified. At the first company I worked for I went through all the training to get certified because we were looking at building an inventory management system for dispos, and the level of dog and pony show involved in "compliance" is arguably worse than companies getting their SOC II Type 2 audits done. Nothing more than a bunch of check boxes with no actual controls to prevent corruption.

For Sure! What they need to do is treat it like any other product like alcohol or tobacco but for some reason weed seems to be nuclear waste in their eyes.

So true about the effectiveness of those laws. Look at their social equity licensing programs. Utter BS.

 

[Observer]

For Sure! What they need to do is treat it like any other product like alcohol or tobacco but for some reason weed seems to be nuclear waste in their eyes.

So true about the effectiveness of those laws. Look at their social equity licensing programs. Utter BS.

yup its straight up bs

 

[Franksta]

I can't stop looking at your finger man!

I've been living out in the bushes for a little over a year bro

That's after I clean them the clay here in the soggy bottom of the mountain stains everything grey

Just put up the roof and fireplace. Cabin is up and running finally

 

[Franksta]

To put what they said into perspective. I've ran over 150 plates in front of my laminar flow hood, direct spore inoculations (which are presumed contaminated given I've running from multispore) and only had one contaminate with trichoderma. Does that mean the other 149 are bad and need to be tossed out?

The argument is fair. However one spore does not make an infection and I don't agree with the "dead DNA" argument. For years there has been a serious problem with pay-to-play in Oregon regarding testing. In fact, there were several labs shut down for hiding pesticide and mold results and boosting cannabinoid numbers. Eg, gimme another $500 and I'll boost your THC by .5.

The argument is ad hominem.

Agree... The biggest concern is the metabolite from the spore themselves generally speaking... If it's possible to separate or isolate a highly toxic spore is the biggest thing IMO, especially if it's still alive and just put into a bag for storage

Out of sight and mind



I'm guessing I'm in the consumer campaign on this one. Learn how to grow mold free or find greener pastures

 

[Observer]

I've been living out in the bushes for a little over a year bro

That's after I clean them the clay here in the soggy bottom of the mountain stains everything grey

Just put up the roof and fireplace. Cabin is up and running finally

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awesome

 

[Observer]

Agree... The biggest concern is the metabolite from the spore themselves generally speaking... If it's possible to separate or isolate a highly toxic spore is the biggest thing IMO, especially if it's still alive and just put into a bag for storage

Out of sight and mind



I'm guessing I'm in the consumer campaign on this one. Learn how to grow mold free or find greener pastures

i agree

maybe things like this leads to taking these "bigger "Corporate" "cultivators" out of business.

i just want to see it go to smaller "Craft farms" for quality control and for my own gain if i can ever possibly get into the game.

im more passionate about it then anything.

 

[Franksta]

 

[Observer]

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now those are some healthy plants.

love the mtn in the back ground

 

[tobh]

I've been living out in the bushes for a little over a year bro

That's after I clean them the clay here in the soggy bottom of the mountain stains everything grey

Just put up the roof and fireplace. Cabin is up and running finally

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looks damn good man. glad you're getting that area dialed in finally. I know it's been something on your list for a while.

Does that fire 7.62x39? Looks an awful lot like my sister's RAK-74.

 

[tobh]

i agree

maybe things like this leads to taking these "bigger "Corporate" "cultivators" out of business.

i just want to see it go to smaller "Craft farms" for quality control

The way the laws and licensing for producers is written, there's no room for craft farms. It's 100% designed to move production, and thus profits, to a small set of very wealthy companies. There's a reason that microbreweries that get too successful get bought by Anheiser Busch, and damn near every cigarette sold is produced by a subsidiary of Phillip Morris. Cannabis is destined for the same fate.

 

[Observer]

The way the laws and licensing for producers is written, there's no room for craft farms. It's 100% designed to move production, and thus profits, to a small set of very wealthy companies.

which is exactly what i wanted to not happen when its all finally legalized but ofc figured it would.

There's a reason that microbreweries that get too successful get bought by Anheiser Busch, and damn near every cigarette sold is produced by a subsidiary of Phillip Morris. Cannabis is destined for the same fate.

the way Capitalism goes i suppose.

 

[Franksta]

i agree

maybe things like this leads to taking these "bigger "Corporate" "cultivators" out of business.

i just want to see it go to smaller "Craft farms" for quality control

I'm starting to see a few good outside vendors who are knocking it out of the park IMO but they are in the minority and use only certain cultivator that do better than others IMO

There's two of them here in Washington state that I know of for sure

I won't pay over $30 USD for a ounce and it better be bomb shit and have a few mature seeds in it

 

[tobh]

The difference, which we all can't see, is almost non-existent. Because we're active producers and we have been on the illegal side for so long, our emotions peak hard when it comes to legislation of any kind in relation to this plant. Give it 30 years and I imagine things will relax to the point that nationally one can produce their own unlicensed, within reason, and beyond that we might see alcohol production type of regulations -- labeling controls, quality controls, et al.

 

[Observer]

I'm starting to see a few good outside vendors who are knocking it out of the park IMO but they are in the minority and use only certain cultivator that do better than others IMO

I won't pay over $30 USD for a ounce and it better be bomb shit and have a few mature seeds in it

damn any actually decent bud (lets say 20%+Thc 3%+ terps (?) smooth smoke, has a good taste, not dark or brown colored, etc (?))
have not been in a dispo in awhile but seems prices in Tulsa OK for an oz of quality is around 100-200+ still

 

[Franksta]

Mostly the best outdoor weed I smoke is usually a purple type that's got lots of funky or stinky stuff

Those mold resistant plants

Usually 18-22% and high Terps and potency. I even see THCV in there often enough

 

[Observer]

The difference, which we all can't see, is almost non-existent. Because we're active producers and we have been on the illegal side for so long, our emotions peak hard when it comes to legislation of any kind in relation to this plant. Give it 30 years and I imagine things will relax to the point that nationally one can produce their own unlicensed, within reason, and beyond that

we might see alcohol production type of regulations -- labeling controls, quality controls, et al.

curious about that too, afaik it seems even more regulated than alcohol and shit im way more likely to fuck my self side ways on some liquor and pills.

 

[tobh]

I'm starting to see a few good outside vendors who are knocking it out of the park IMO but they are in the minority and use only certain cultivator that do better than others IMO

There's two of them here in Washington state that I know of for sure

I won't pay over $30 USD for a ounce and it better be bomb shit and have a few mature seeds in it

Did you forget a zero on that number?

Someone can still fetch $400/oz to the right buyer for top shelf. Locally produced commercial grade? I wouldn't wipe my ass with it. Even the distillates I see come around are a joke. Fuck the 80%+ cannabinoid content, production quality is a fucking thing and if the extraction was fucked no amount of layering artificial terpenes is going to fix it. Yet, bubble and BHO have damn near been abolished as "inferior."

 

[tobh]

curious about that too, afaik it seems even more regulated than alcohol and shit im way more likely to fuck my self side ways on some liquor and pills.

look back at alcohol prohibition and it followed a very similar path. now you can brew and distill at home so long you don't exceed certain limits and don't sell. if you sell, you step into the realm of regulation.

 

[Franksta]

The original DJ Short does really good outside too

 

[Observer]

Did you forget a zero on that number?

Someone can still fetch $400/oz to the right buyer for top shelf. Locally produced commercial grade? I wouldn't wipe my ass with it.

Even the distillates I see come around are a joke. Fuck the 80%+ cannabinoid content, production quality is a fucking thing and if the extraction was fucked no amount of layering artificial terpenes

haha you say that, this dispo near me has some 8$ carts and they fucking suck.
taste/smells "perfume" like cheap shitty terpenes added to some low quality distillate.

is going to fix it. Yet, bubble and BHO have damn near been abolished as "inferior."

i cant find shatter or that classic wax either that id use to get off the street, the smell good shiny tan/brown oily looking wax.

 

[Franksta]

The slacker family should be imprisoned IMO for what happened

That stuff was really terrible when capitalism does it's thing with healthcare

That's why some regulations are good IMO cause you always have bad actors in the crowd

 

[Observer]

The slacker family should be imprisoned IMO for what happened

That stuff was really terrible when capitalism does it's thing with healthcare

That's why some regulations are good IMO cause you always have bad actors in the crowd

i knew a little about it but if what that guy is saying on the podcast thats some crazy behind-the-scenes information.

my brother was hooked on opioids, went down that path for some years and started shooting up

the exposure starts with high school and a DR visit.

 

[tobh]

haha you say that, this dispo near me has some 8$ carts and they fucking suck.
taste/smells "perfume" like cheap shitty terpenes added to some low quality distillate.

i cant find shatter or that classic wax either that id use to get off the street, the smell good shiny tan/brown oily looking wax.

that's what i'm talking about. when i walk in a room where someone is hitting a pen with a cheap cart and it reminds me of my bubble spinning days (former meth addict 10 years clean from last relapse), there's a problem.

The slacker family should be imprisoned IMO for what happened

That stuff was really terrible when capitalism does it's thing with healthcare

That's why some regulations are good IMO cause you always have bad actors in the crowd

Agreed. Regulation needs to be in place, but cannabis and opiates are a different ball game. Each serves a purpose, and what the Sacklers did was disgraceful.

I'm a huge proponent for proper usage of opium and its derivatives. Refinement beyond the base alkaloids is where I draw my line, though. Oxy, Fent, Dem, etc are all far too dangerous to even be considered, despite the effectiveness in very isolated medical situations.

 

[Franksta]

Did you forget a zero on that number?

Someone can still fetch $400/oz to the right buyer for top shelf. Locally produced commercial grade? I wouldn't wipe my ass with it. Even the distillates I see come around are a joke. Fuck the 80%+ cannabinoid content, production quality is a fucking thing and if the extraction was fucked no amount of layering artificial terpenes is going to fix it. Yet, bubble and BHO have damn near been abolished as "inferior."

Thirty $$$ ounces but I'm in it for the quality seed stock cause it's so obvious that's the case

Everything I've got from this guy is all mature seeds in everything. Just not lots of them


This is the day tripper

 

[Franksta]

that's what i'm talking about. when i walk in a room where someone is hitting a pen with a cheap cart and it reminds me of my bubble spinning days (former meth addict 10 years clean from last relapse), there's a problem.

Agreed. Regulation needs to be in place, but cannabis and opiates are a different ball game. Each serves a purpose, and what the Sacklers did was disgraceful.

I'm a huge proponent for proper usage of opium and its derivatives. Refinement beyond the base alkaloids is where I draw my line, though. Oxy, Fent, Dem, etc are all far too dangerous to even be considered, despite the effectiveness in very isolated medical situations.

Dirty 30mg blues are like $0.25-0.50 in Seattle right now. I'm all in on those who want to smoke opium too. Just give it to the people naturally and leave it at that. Natural concentrate ECT


That and good purity quality control

 

[GrumpAzz]

Dirty 30mg blues are like $0.25-0.50 in Seattle right now. I'm all in on those who want to smoke opium too. Just give it to the people naturally and leave it at that. Natural concentrate ECT

Dirty blues have taken out two of my friends in the last 4 years.. fuck those things

 

[GrumpAzz]

I've been living out in the bushes for a little over a year bro

That's after I clean them the clay here in the soggy bottom of the mountain stains everything grey

Just put up the roof and fireplace. Cabin is up and running finally

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I wasn't trying to clown you. I was just captivated and couldn't even focus on the bud.

Props to ya, man. Working hard for yourself. That's a dream only some can achieve.

 

[Observer]

Thirty $$$ ounces but I'm in it for the quality seed stock cause it's so obvious that's the case

Everything I've got from this guy is all mature seeds in everything. Just not lots of them


This is the day tripper
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that does look decent from here

 

[tobh]

Dirty blues have taken out two of my friends in the last 4 years.. fuck those things

they have my oldest nephew by the balls right now. no contact with the kid but hope he's still six feet up and being as safe as he can. it's only a matter of time till the call comes in, though. fuck fent.

 

[Franksta]

they have my oldest nephew by the balls right now. no contact with the kid but hope he's still six feet up and being as safe as he can. it's only a matter of time till the call comes in, though. fuck fent.

I got a friend that does it but has it "under control" and it's a sad situation to watch. But I tolerate it cause he's a good guy and it keeps me on the straight and narrow watching him decline. Plus he's always hitting the booze and beer by noon everyday, diabetes and fat as fuck. Always bitching about feeling like shit

Not much that can be done, when someone is hellbent on killing themselves

I just watch it from the porches cause I don't want to breathe any of the fumes. Sorta like a sad drama with a bad ending

 

[Franksta]

Truth of the situation is I think there's just a lot of decent people who have addiction issues and bad habits.....

Sad suffering souls

Doesn't mean their evil or liars, thieves or criminals. Those types are pretty much in all corners of society

 

[Observer]

Well put

 

[GrumpAzz]

I got a friend that does it but has it "under control" and it's a sad situation to watch. But I tolerate it cause he's a good guy and it keeps me on the straight and narrow watching him decline. Plus he's always hitting the booze and beer by noon everyday, diabetes and fat as fuck. Always bitching about feeling like shit

Not much that can be done, when someone is hellbent on killing themselves

I just watch it from the porches cause I don't want to breathe any of the fumes. Sorta like a sad drama with a bad ending

For sure. I have a really close homie with nerve pain in his lower back (botched surgery back in 08). When the stuff first made it's rounds around here, he was getting it mixed with saline and sold in a nasal spray bottle. He got hooked immediately. He's not an idiot, but the stuff grabbed him by the balls, like you said. He realized he needed to step away when the withdrawal symptoms would surface less than 3 hours after a few snootz. 3 freakin hours and he'd start feeling like he was dieing. It's so scary man.

I used to really love some ecstasy back in college. My ol' lady has never tried it. Never tried a lot of stuff. She worked as a sheriff deputy right up until we got together and loves some of the stories. No way am I gonna go looking for it. That fents in everything nowadays, intentionally or not. Sad state of affairs.

Another guy I shared a jobsite with recently said he can get it by the ounce for $300 in SanFran. No wonder it's dropping folks like flies. It's nearly the cheapest thing out there now, if we're going by potency.

People can do what they want and honestly I love the perspective I get from some of them, but it's pretty damn wild how prevalent it's become.

 

[Garbage_bear]

Did you forget a zero on that number?

Someone can still fetch $400/oz to the right buyer for top shelf. Locally produced commercial grade? I wouldn't wipe my ass with it. Even the distillates I see come around are a joke. Fuck the 80%+ cannabinoid content, production quality is a fucking thing and if the extraction was fucked no amount of layering artificial terpenes is going to fix it. Yet, bubble and BHO have damn near been abolished as "inferior."

No $30 an ounce for kind of small, leafy trim job herb. $50 an ounce for good trimmed big nugs. Not top shelf by any means but enough to get me by until my harvest. I can’t buy top shelf dispo bud as it is expensive and usually still tumble trimmed losing 25% of tricombs. They have extracts cheap too. I don’t know how they make any money. Quantity I guess.

 

[GoodShit97]

No $30 an ounce for kind of small, leafy trim job herb. $50 an ounce for good trimmed big nugs. Not top shelf by any means but enough to get me by until my harvest. I can’t buy top shelf dispo bud as it is expensive and usually still tumble trimmed losing 25% of tricombs. They have extracts cheap too. I don’t know how they make any money. Quantity I guess.

The dispensary i go to in Maine is anywhere from 60 an ounce to 220 an ounce.
Wanna know the difference?
Absolutely nothing but the trim job, because the shop take 2 strains every week or 2 and puts them down to 60 dollars an ounce to bring in more business.
Its actually pretty good flower too.
Could be anything too. Ive gotten $60 ounces of
Apples & bananas
Candy store from ethos
Planet of the grapes from ethos
White nightmare
Orange goji
Grape goji
LA Cheese
Peanut Butter Breath from rugged roots
Etc.

Also get live resin or diamonds too and they only run $10 a gram.

Its almost cheaper for me to just make a trip to maine once a month and buy 500 dollars worth of stuff. But i enjoy growing my own thats why i only buy edibles and concentrates from the dispo now.

 

[Rootsruler]

My exposure to the biz gave me a permanent allergic reaction to dispensaries so if I'm buying smoke I'll buy it at taco sessions where local growers are selling their wares. I can pickup ounces of top shelf for around $30 - $40 an ounce and extracts like diamonds/butter/crumble for around $5 a gram. I'm not big into vaping but if I do I look for clearwater vapes. I usually pay around $6 for 1/2 gram carts.