Observers' Flower Space

[Dirtbag]

Ohh.

which is kinda funny cause i think it was growing the "fastest" and bushiest, and wanted all the PPFD in veg, maybe some stress/defoliation related/ and 2 much back to back ppfd, tiring it out

ive been back and fourth between 50 and 75% power on the vipar. i have moved it up and over towards the other ones a little.



Ahh, i See, maybe ill just buy the slabs and try the stacked rooters on top lmao.

excited to finally try it.

2x4 flowers go down in a week or two, then time for the next VEG Start/Run

Almost any configuration of rockwool works, I've even done fabric pots of loose rockwool flock before. Slabs are a bit more pricey, but they are designed to work very well, and they do.
A 3" half block on top of a unislab is a deadly way to go.

 

[Observer]

Almost any configuration of rockwool works, I've even done fabric pots of loose rockwool flock before. Slabs are a bit more pricey, but they are designed to work very well, and they do.

clever

A 3" half block on top of a unislab is a deadly way to go.

OoH, buy some 6' and cut em in half?, place on slabs.



ill have it up as soon as i can chop the 2x4 and get the materiels.

that fuckin works/sounds perfect.

without breaking the bank i barely have lol

thx bro


you smart, lol

 

[Observer]

30 something degrees outside.

This is how I balance my grow environment out.

I guess too much light at/on the back plant there but it's at 75% and it's gonna have to deal with it, the others seem to want more if im "reading" the plants correctly.

Unless, it's a root zone problem, I doubt it, checked it not long ago.

 

[Observer]

30 something degrees outside.

This is how I balance my grow environment out.

I guess too much light at/on the back plant there but it's at 75% and it's gonna have to deal with it, the others seem to want more of I'm reading them correctly.

No control over lights off besides ambient, and fuck it don't care/can't worry about it.

That's something I'll have to optimize when I have a proper setup/room and closer to full control over all parameters at all times.

Then I'll dial/optimize the lights off environment in

 

[Observer]

So I'm aiming for 85/75 for these next weeks or so till last two

But if the temp is staying 84 I'll take 74rh, just gotta open the flap a little more for it to drop, or go wipe some water off the floor.

Can turn this down too so I don't have to open it as much to keep heat in, possibly.

 

[Observer]

So I'm aiming for 85/75 for these next weeks or so till last two

But if the temp is staying 84 I'll take 74rh, just gotta open the flap a little more for it to drop, or go wipe some water off the floor.

Can turn this down too so I don't have to open it as much to keep heat in, possibly.

Also, I could remove some of these fan leafs too for RH control

Reason this doesn't work in soil, or schwazzing is because soil is a slow media, organic food takes a little time to break down and become bio-available.

Supplying them readily bio-available salt solutions, they have instant food-uptake, optimized gas exchange, high heat for cellular division and multiplication growth rates, humidity keeps them breathing and uptaking CO2.

 

[Observer]

The whiteboard, lol.

Current nutrients, E.C and pH range, and "crop-steering" method, and week stage.

I am currently doing, 5.5 > 5.6 > 5.7 > 5.8 > 5.9 > 6.0 > 5.5

So every night when I make gallon of nutrient solution I go through the pH point "steps"

So if I water them 5.5 one night, 5.6 on the next solution, till 6.0 or 6.1 (if that's recommended, 6.1) then back to 5.5 - logic being good range/better absorption/uptake range for ALL elements.

 

[Observer]

The whiteboard, lol.

Current nutrients, E.C and pH range, and "crop-steering" method, and week stage.

I am currently doing, 5.5 > 5.6 > 5.7 > 5.8 > 5.9 > 6.0 > 5.5

So every night when I make gallon of nutrient solution I go through the pH point "steps"

So if I water them 5.5 one night, 5.6 on the next solution, till 6.0 or 6.1 (if that's recommended, 6.1) then back to 5.5 - logic being good range/better absorption/uptake range for ALL elements.

Small pots best pots in growth rate optimization context

Small and tall pots are best, but have their drawbacks too, I'd like to use tall and skinny half gallons next time but that's for coco, I'm planning for rockwool run next , just the upfront cost to once again go out and buy more shit when I have a kid to prioritize, making me go back and fourth , cost.

Coco seems to be a lot cheaper than Rockwool.


But I'll probably get a few bigger ones and cut em in half then place on slab come flower.

 

[Observer]

Kinda hard to check their EC as it just runs out on the floor but I'll turkey baster some up and see.


This wasn't even the plan lol

Just ran out of room on the 2x4 and figured go ahead and flower these with how sick those root balls were looking.

These were the moms.

 

[Observer]

@GoodShit97

It's bong breaking season, apparently.

Lol

 

[SSgrower]

I just sifted some sift hash with my bitch Sifter and we got the bong & Banger w/ carb cap out of the closet! I hear ya. As to your financial problems I feel it too, my Texas electric with Reliant energy just increased rates in September for me,Frick! You trying to figure out how you want to RDWC there are Moe & plenty of other semi-Pro's, don't want to give em the big head,Ha. Cheers bro, they make Grodan slabs and now Canna has Coco slabs if you have seen them? SSgrower

 

[GoodShit97]

@GoodShit97

It's bong breaking season, apparently.

Lol

Man, you too huh? My wife broke this one last night.
Shes ALWAYS wearing a fucken blanket through the house and caught the damn thing when she turned around.
I think i could fix it with 2 ton quick set epoxy but its not worth it to me lol.

 

[Dirtbag]

OoH, buy some 6' and cut em in half?, place on slabs.

No, I use the 3 x 3" x 2.5 inch blocks on a slab. The roots find the bottom really fast so they can be put on slabs faster.

These guys.

Grodan Delta 4 Block, 3" x 3" x 2.5" with holes

Grodan Stonewool (rockwool) is made from molten rock spun into cotton candy-like fibers and then compressed into cubes, blocks, or slabs. Where other rockwool brand manufacturers cut all sizes from one batch of wool, Grodan is unique by making different types of fibers.

hydropros.com

6" blocks are way too big for slabs, even cut in half, they'd be wider than they need to be. The small block on top is just for getting them started and to keep the crown of the stalk elevated out of the main slab.

 

[Dirtbag]

Also, I could remove some of these fan leafs too for RH control

Reason this doesn't work in soil, or schwazzing is because soil is a slow media, organic food takes a little time to break down and become bio-available.

Supplying them readily bio-available salt solutions, they have instant food-uptake, optimized gas exchange, high heat for cellular division and multiplication growth rates, humidity keeps them breathing and uptaking CO2.

Go easy pulling leaves during the stretch and bud set period. I really try to minimize stress during that phase, if they can herm, that will hermie them.

 

[Rootsruler]

I just sifted some sift hash with my bitch Sifter and we got the bong & Banger w/ carb cap out of the closet! I hear ya. As to your financial problems I feel it too, my Texas electric with Reliant energy just increased rates in September for me,Frick! You trying to figure out how you want to RDWC there are Moe & plenty of other semi-Pro's, don't want to give em the big head,Ha. Cheers bro, they make Grodan slabs and now Canna has Coco slabs if you have seen them? SSgrower

Dang....Texas....what do you do when there's a hot or cold snap and your electrical grid starts shutting down? Do you have a generator to keep things going?

 

[Pipecarver]

@GoodShit97

It's bong breaking season, apparently.

Lol

That sucks, You could stick the stem of the top pic into a piece of 1 1/2" PVC pipe hot glue a bottom on and where you drill to add the stem to secure it in place. Use a hair dryer or heat gun to mold the top into a comfortable shape to smoke from. paint funky colors or leave as is...... cheap and almost indestructible bong

 

[Observer]

Go easy pulling leaves during the stretch and bud set period. I really try to minimize stress during that phase, if they can herm, that will hermie them.

wouldn't want that, thanks.

have not picked anything else after the second strip.

 

[Observer]

No, I use the 3 x 3" x 2.5 inch blocks on a slab. The roots find the bottom really fast so they can be put on slabs faster.

These guys.

Grodan Delta 4 Block, 3" x 3" x 2.5" with holes

Grodan Stonewool (rockwool) is made from molten rock spun into cotton candy-like fibers and then compressed into cubes, blocks, or slabs. Where other rockwool brand manufacturers cut all sizes from one batch of wool, Grodan is unique by making different types of fibers.

hydropros.com

6" blocks are way too big for slabs, even cut in half, they'd be wider than they need to be. The small block on top is just for getting them started and to keep the crown of the stalk elevated out of the main slab.

ohhh ok thanks man.

 

[Observer]

Man, you too huh? View attachment 27832My wife broke this one last night.
Shes ALWAYS wearing a fucken blanket through the house and caught the damn thing when she turned around.
I think i could fix it with 2 ton quick set epoxy but its not worth it to me lol.

 

[Observer]

So guess I should be doing "vegetative", (1-4% sub volume, so I'ma keep it at 4% lol.

Instead of generative at (4-8%)

 

[Observer]

Getting pretty comfortable with the whole salt/high-freq-fert method, ready to try it in rockwool next.

Re-arranged the grow area for now, thinking about throwing a wall up and turning this into a "room", half the living room space convert to grow room.

Maybe.



Getting this ready for the next veg run, finally automatic-watering.

A wall before or after the outlet there on the left side by lamp.

Few more nights on 2x4 then next veg run start soon.

Last place fucked this run just rushing to the finish line to start again


Already chopped about 8 plants now or so

 

[Observer]

I have to make more salt solution and water the 5x5

80ml for now, first bottom line on 16oz solo - give or take.

1.4-1.6ec 5.7 pH tonight

I'll try to measure the run off tonight.

 

[Observer]

Got the power strips set up better

And now full-easier-convient access to the tent

One side was blocked.

Hung the power strips up finally.

 

[Observer]

Probably set my res here

An extension cord for the power strip here

Need to get a decent/long power strip for this

 

[Observer]

4000K---6000K "full" spectrum in 5x5

~522-672watts, any more without CO2 may/seems/will be overkill.

 

[Observer]

I have to make more salt solution and water the 5x5

80ml for now, first bottom line on 16oz solo - give or take.

1.4-1.6ec 5.7 pH tonight

I'll try to measure the run off tonight.

1.3 EC
5.8 pH

and approximately the first line from the bottom of a 16oz red solo cup is 88~mL so i was damn close, ha.

first watering event about to happen, close enough to 1am, so 3 hours after lights on, watering 88~mL

pretty sure they are dry rn, did not water much last night

 

[Observer]

1.3 EC
5.8 pH

and approximately the first line from the bottom of a 16oz red solo cup is 88~mL so i was damn close, ha.

first watering event about to happen, close enough to 1am, so 3 hours after lights on, watering 88~mL

pretty sure they are dry rn, did not water much last night

i ended up giving them x2 , so 176~mL of water

in my mind, the substrate was dry as fuck, so thats basically ~~0%~~water content, + the 176mL, need to weigh/slide a scale under the pot, weigh the substrate when its dry,

and then add the 80 or 160ml and then weigh it, do the difference and thats the water content %

make a table for the WC ranges, and BAM
including time/weight/% fert amount, check the differences every hour before/after watering or so.

crop-steering without sensors

mimicking the same "crop steering" techniques/ PATTERNS , WITHOUT sensors.

Once i get the E.C variable dialed, ive not made the time for it, yet.

unless im terribly mistaken, and missing some "proprietary" information or variable/detail.

then i can do shit like playing around with stressors/increasing-decreasing E.C/changing ENV variables for certain responses from the plants.

 

[Observer]

lmao

old EM did not give any fucks

 

[Observer]

trying to "force" a "senescence" "response" on the 2x4 flowers, "rush" em to "a" finish line.


colder temps, low/er RH, low PPMs, only feeding a little MagSulf, a pinch of Kelp.


more of a "fade", is appearing now, and the scents seem to be getting stronger/better (?)

 

[Observer]

next water event at 3-4 am period perhaps.