Stoney's Luv Shack

[steamroller]

I used the green killing machine in my tanks.
It is a reasonably priced stand alone unit.
Pump and all in one.

https://www.amazon.com/AA-GKM9W-Internal-Aquariums-Black/dp/B099KRCQPN/ref=sr_1_1?adgrpid=1333708169403731&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.SZ-AVtlGtUT4JCHqIg2ewpXmIkUVrpKtSHQR9ETxFl_lzmNorlaxV8G_UWs9erkGmS5mDWNUmrRl4mV1-f-LIfJgTKI32Er0G3bm_NUwWK8ivKqApQTpWh-eavy2wIESRkyCSoQQtnqJDhk4_ArItPAskJIJxIdaTDTuY-sdLr2fX1314RnA5utnRBzGq5Tlu-SiD8cJMsLeASzUvE1Zidab_ZHnEbEzWwG0SHd8JAafEdTkMOFkZ64umfwYe_0dAwG8SaUIix5otwk_vCWO8mjy-HHjuuAEo-Xl19xXsUo.ReFlwHY_0RYiULOZ6kr7P-u2bjpK8CfKpIpDyDxTmgQ&dib_tag=se&hvadid=83357083891844&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=105461&hvnetw=o&hvqmt=e&hvtargid=kwd-83357106716043%3Aloc-190&hydadcr=16165_13560012&keywords=green+machine+for+aquarium&mcid=b6e3ee5fbc643d83a40fa558ec96a0c9&qid=1749523912&sr=8-1

 

[Stoneyluv]

And you already got the UV bulbs, they make inline water UV filters too, could just run one of those with ur rain water

it looks like for $300-$400 i could have a nice setup that i would never need to second guess or worry about. thats a pretty cheap piece of mind! you guys are really twisting my arm now!!!

I wish someone would have told me this before



nice rosin!
Funny, i've only bought bags once, and I got those same ones lol. I like them, but have zero to compare with. good to know they are good from someone who knows!

Sounds like you are on the right track with the water, and that worm could prolly tell us the story, lol
sucks, but always feels great to be able to address a problem you are aware of then shoot in the dark, less fun, but more productive lol

hahaha the worms side of things!!!

you're right man, it feels great to just move forward and onward.

I used the green killing machine in my tanks.
It is a reasonably priced stand alone unit.
Pump and all in one.

https://www.amazon.com/AA-GKM9W-Internal-Aquariums-Black/dp/B099KRCQPN/ref=sr_1_1?adgrpid=1333708169403731&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.SZ-AVtlGtUT4JCHqIg2ewpXmIkUVrpKtSHQR9ETxFl_lzmNorlaxV8G_UWs9erkGmS5mDWNUmrRl4mV1-f-LIfJgTKI32Er0G3bm_NUwWK8ivKqApQTpWh-eavy2wIESRkyCSoQQtnqJDhk4_ArItPAskJIJxIdaTDTuY-sdLr2fX1314RnA5utnRBzGq5Tlu-SiD8cJMsLeASzUvE1Zidab_ZHnEbEzWwG0SHd8JAafEdTkMOFkZ64umfwYe_0dAwG8SaUIix5otwk_vCWO8mjy-HHjuuAEo-Xl19xXsUo.ReFlwHY_0RYiULOZ6kr7P-u2bjpK8CfKpIpDyDxTmgQ&dib_tag=se&hvadid=83357083891844&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=105461&hvnetw=o&hvqmt=e&hvtargid=kwd-83357106716043%3Aloc-190&hydadcr=16165_13560012&keywords=green+machine+for+aquarium&mcid=b6e3ee5fbc643d83a40fa558ec96a0c9&qid=1749523912&sr=8-1

thats a lot nicer than what i have, thats a lot better proper size too.. i don't need my large 36watt.. i think Bandit may have used the same one actually. this is my old one, i have this one and a brand new backup still in the box. this thing worlks over my 4000 gallon pond with ease so i don't need something this big, plus these bulbs are pricey compared to a 9w... i was only keeping them because they're the exact same bulb my newer cousin eddies use, i'd rather save these for that and buy a new one for the garden water. i think i need to take the plunge on the setup. maybe i've just been lucky all these years and can't leave it up to luck going forward!



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my new favorite cleaning tool... i don't know why i never did this before... dust be-gone!!!!

https://imgur.com/a/R9tw3BD

 

[Observer]

I wish someone would have told me this before



nice rosin!
Funny, i've only bought bags once, and I got those same ones lol. I like them, but have zero to compare with. good to know they are good from someone who knows!

Sounds like you are on the right track with the water, and that worm could prolly tell us the story, lol
sucks, but always feels great to be able to address a problem you are aware of then shoot in the dark, less fun, but more productive lol

You too lol

RO RO RO +high oxygenation, closed loop micron filtration cycling system.
UV filter the return for redundancy

You're roots and water bill will love you.

highly recommend with any hydro system

I can't fucking wait to stop using tap water and 100% control the water chemistry.

Shouldn't have to worry about root diseases every again, and healthier oxygenated roots.

 

[Bandit420]

Should be able to under 300, 250 maybe.

For gardening, $75 can give you 50 gallons/day per year then replace filters each year. Simple plug and play into a garden hose.
But if you want whole house except for toilet yep it gets very spendy at $350 minimum

 

[Observer]

For gardening, $75 can give you 50 gallons/day per year then replace filters each year. Simple plug and play into a garden hose.
But if you want whole house except for toilet yep it gets very spendy at $350 minimum

Sweet, I might of lowballed a little but Definitely worth for me/imo.

75$/garden hose route with a drum resevoir he has doesn't sad bad.

 

[Stoneyluv]

For gardening, $75 can give you 50 gallons/day per year then replace filters each year. Simple plug and play into a garden hose.
But if you want whole house except for toilet yep it gets very spendy at $350 minimum

i'd need a booster pump as well so i need to factor that cost in along with filter. i also need to find out if the pump would be able to work with gravity pressures under 5psi.

like i said, i'm not saying no to RO, i need to get more info is all. like the things you showed me have the water saving and the smart booster pump clams it reduces 65% of waste.. i need to do some math and see how much volume, time, and money all this is costing me.

i also fully understand this is not just to grow hydro, this would need to be for all my gardening so it's not just another hydro expense.

but it's gonna be more than $75 i'm sure.

 

[Bandit420]

i'd need a booster pump as well so i need to factor that cost in along with filter. i also need to find out if the pump would be able to work with gravity pressures under 5psi.

like i said, i'm not saying no to RO, i need to get more info is all. like the things you showed me have the water saving and the smart booster pump clams it reduces 65% of waste.. i need to do some math and see how much volume, time, and money all this is costing me.

i also fully understand this is not just to grow hydro, this would need to be for all my gardening so it's not just another hydro expense.

but it's gonna be more than $75 i'm sure.

I don't think you need RO to garden since you're already at 0ppm. I just mentioned it for using in a humidifier so the water is purified and wondering if the slime would still occur in RO water since things like mosquitoes don't get into RO until it's polluted.
Like others mentioned about the vinegar doing the same or maybe even lemon juice.

IDK if your grocery store or even like the Lowes has those big water jugs for like office water dispensers? But that's RO water in those jugs so you could get that to test out if RO would help before actually getting into a system.

If you or Observer were to get into RO, a system you would use for gardening and home are two totally different things.
For Observer, I assume he would be going off city tap from a garden hose or kitchen/bathroom sink so a basic 3 stage would be more than adequate. If there's other shit in the water the 3 cant get out, usually chloramine or ions, then other stages of filter would be needed.
By and large though, 3 is fine for gardening and organics like making teas and the $65-$75 systems from Aquatic Life fits that.
Then yeah for you a pump like the 1/10HP from HF and an electric float valve would easily double that and then some.
I have a piggyback float valve for that type of a system so if you ever need lemme know. It'll save anywhere from $20-$100 being where those things price out at

 

[GrumpAzz]

i would need a booster pump. and need to be careful where i mounted it because i don't have a good drain downstairs, it's just a french drain and can't handle that kind of volume.

I think Steam mentioned, it comes out of the waste line with decent pressure and flow. It could send it wherever you needed it to.

what i would really like to look into is if it's possible to run my rain water through an R/O filter?

Absolutely, but you guys got that in the works.

I quoted all these so by george I'm gonna use 'em whether or not the questions got answered already.

i'm just not fond of all the water i wastes. just against my ethics is all and it the real deal breaker ATM and not the cost.

Can you save it? @Bandit420, what's the waste consist of? Could he collect it and use it elsewhere? I need to look that up cuz now I'm curious.

looking for nice A to B run. no drama!

This is it man.. Just keep it between the ditches and drive her home. You got this.

 

[moe.red]

Waste water has what the source water had in it but certain things have been removed (first 2 stages have physical and carbon filters) but things not collected prior to the RO membrane are actually increased in concentration

Example of sodium. Input is 50 ppm, RO output is 0 ppm but waste is now 100ppm.

Things that can be removed by carbon are in fact removed and not sent back to the waste.

Most bacteria and viruses are filtered by the membrane. Those get washed back into the waste as well.

I can see a scenario where it makes sense to run the waste back to the rain barrel. If you have sodium in your source water this would not work well because your input water would constantly increase in sodium levels eventually to a harmful level. You would have to drain the source periodically. But with rain water there should not be sodium or heavy metals or other nasty stuff that would build up over time and cause issues.

 

[Bandit420]

I think Steam mentioned, it comes out of the waste line with decent pressure and flow. It could send it wherever you needed it to.


Absolutely, but you guys got that in the works.

I quoted all these so by george I'm gonna use 'em whether or not the questions got answered already.


Can you save it? @Bandit420, what's the waste consist of? Could he collect it and use it elsewhere? I need to look that up cuz now I'm curious.


This is it man.. Just keep it between the ditches and drive her home. You got this.

When I flip my system to collect RO, the waste line runs out to irrigate trees during the drought. Trees love it probably because the nitrates are concentrated. It's not toxic but could be brackish depending on the source water. In theory I really don't waste a single drop but when I run RO, only 1/2 the water gets used in my garden and that waste goes back into the Earth.

Rain barrel RO systems are quite common here. My neighbor is off grid with solar and rain and their system is whole house RO off three 1000g rain water tanks. So even though he collects 3000 gallons of rain, only 1500 are harvested and last him thru the year and the waste goes into his garden.
But for growing pot?
Just need two or more 55g barrels for a grow the size of yours or Stoney's. The bigger the rain collector the better but the usable collection only needs to be around 50 gallons.
One barrel collects rain. A pump, usually inline 1/10th HP minimum, moves water from the rain collector thru the filter and then into the collection barrel to be collected and used.
Where you and I get away with using a float valve shut off at the top of our collection tank to prevent overflow, a rain barrel system would put a piggyback cord float valve on a tether in the bottom of the rain barrel. It's placement would be set to the same height from the bottom of the barrel as the height which you would want it to stop filling in the collection barrel. You would do that so power is cut to the pump and does not burn up pumping a dry barrel.

 

[Bandit420]

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[Stoneyluv]

I don't think you need RO to garden since you're already at 0ppm. I just mentioned it for using in a humidifier so the water is purified and wondering if the slime would still occur in RO water since things like mosquitoes don't get into RO until it's polluted.
Like others mentioned about the vinegar doing the same or maybe even lemon juice.

IDK if your grocery store or even like the Lowes has those big water jugs for like office water dispensers? But that's RO water in those jugs so you could get that to test out if RO would help before actually getting into a system.

If you or Observer were to get into RO, a system you would use for gardening and home are two totally different things.
For Observer, I assume he would be going off city tap from a garden hose or kitchen/bathroom sink so a basic 3 stage would be more than adequate. If there's other shit in the water the 3 cant get out, usually chloramine or ions, then other stages of filter would be needed.
By and large though, 3 is fine for gardening and organics like making teas and the $65-$75 systems from Aquatic Life fits that.
Then yeah for you a pump like the 1/10HP from HF and an electric float valve would easily double that and then some.
I have a piggyback float valve for that type of a system so if you ever need lemme know. It'll save anywhere from $20-$100 being where those things price out at

ahhh i'm sorry i misunderstood ya... i got ya now. makes me think though, this adds more puzzle pieces to it.. i used that water in my other humidifier for years and never had any of that, the old one i would have to take it apart to fill it so i see the guts every time and always clean. it's only been this recent water causing it in this humidifier i bet.

i use one of these under my kitchen sink for drinking water and coffee makers and stuff..


it works great with my tap water and nothing scales from it. i also have the same one downstairs plumbed to my ice maker.. i could easily tap a tee in that line and run a valve next to my humidifier and just use that water for it next winter. i'll see how all this goes first.

I think Steam mentioned, it comes out of the waste line with decent pressure and flow. It could send it wherever you needed it to.


Absolutely, but you guys got that in the works.

I quoted all these so by george I'm gonna use 'em whether or not the questions got answered already.


Can you save it? @Bandit420, what's the waste consist of? Could he collect it and use it elsewhere? I need to look that up cuz now I'm curious.


This is it man.. Just keep it between the ditches and drive her home. You got this.

i've been trying to keep it between the mayo and the mustard for three grows now!!! one of these just has to stick!!! ( i hope)

Waste water has what the source water had in it but certain things have been removed (first 2 stages have physical and carbon filters) but things not collected prior to the RO membrane are actually increased in concentration

Example of sodium. Input is 50 ppm, RO output is 0 ppm but waste is now 100ppm.

Things that can be removed by carbon are in fact removed and not sent back to the waste.

Most bacteria and viruses are filtered by the membrane. Those get washed back into the waste as well.

I can see a scenario where it makes sense to run the waste back to the rain barrel. If you have sodium in your source water this would not work well because your input water would constantly increase in sodium levels eventually to a harmful level. You would have to drain the source periodically. But with rain water there should not be sodium or heavy metals or other nasty stuff that would build up over time and cause issues.

yea, i can't do that!! i would just be asking for problems down the road. the waste would have to be wasted and just the way it is.

so i assume if the bacteria and virus' are small enough they pass through the RO membrane? where a UV would kill 99.9%? this is probably the same equal efficiency in removing bacteria and virus'

i have to assume thats what i had, one of those. i've ruled out russet mites from the two hour inspection i did over the weekend.

i mean i guess this test right here answers all that, right? with the peroxide it takes bacteria and virus' out the equation, correct?

if i just hold the h2o2 levels at like ten for the first month i'll know if the problem is gone.. i think i'd just like to know that it's possible to grow right now and if this problems continue i can 100% rule out water? if the problem goes away then i'll be down to try some other way out to clean the water.

this is how i'm thinking in my head, dos that all sound accurate from your screen?

When I flip my system to collect RO, the waste line runs out to irrigate trees during the drought. Trees love it probably because the nitrates are concentrated. It's not toxic but could be brackish depending on the source water. In theory I really don't waste a single drop but when I run RO, only 1/2 the water gets used in my garden and that waste goes back into the Earth.

Rain barrel RO systems are quite common here. My neighbor is off grid with solar and rain and their system is whole house RO off three 1000g rain water tanks. So even though he collects 3000 gallons of rain, only 1500 are harvested and last him thru the year and the waste goes into his garden.
But for growing pot?
Just need two or more 55g barrels for a grow the size of yours or Stoney's. The bigger the rain collector the better but the usable collection only needs to be around 50 gallons.
One barrel collects rain. A pump, usually inline 1/10th HP minimum, moves water from the rain collector thru the filter and then into the collection barrel to be collected and used.
Where you and I get away with using a float valve shut off at the top of our collection tank to prevent overflow, a rain barrel system would put a piggyback cord float valve on a tether in the bottom of the rain barrel. It's placement would be set to the same height from the bottom of the barrel as the height which you would want it to stop filling in the collection barrel. You would do that so power is cut to the pump and does not burn up pumping a dry barrel.

wait up so you're saying i can run an RO filter from a submersible pump? the big ones have enough pressure? i have a few of them here.

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huh?? how were you controlling it all this time? saw there was a new firmware update a week or so ago,, added some feature in the lighting but i haven't figured out what it does yet, too lazy to look it up,, haha

but i thought you always had the app and thats how you used it even until you learned you can just double click the power button? i'm confused.

how are liking your new austin glass?

 

[Bandit420]

ahhh i'm sorry i misunderstood ya... i got ya now. makes me think though, this adds more puzzle pieces to it.. i used that water in my other humidifier for years and never had any of that, the old one i would have to take it apart to fill it so i see the guts every time and always clean. it's only been this recent water causing it in this humidifier i bet.

i use one of these under my kitchen sink for drinking water and coffee makers and stuff..
View attachment 105046

it works great with my tap water and nothing scales from it. i also have the same one downstairs plumbed to my ice maker.. i could easily tap a tee in that line and run a valve next to my humidifier and just use that water for it next winter. i'll see how all this goes first.



i've been trying to keep it between the mayo and the mustard for three grows now!!! one of these just has to stick!!! ( i hope)



yea, i can't do that!! i would just be asking for problems down the road. the waste would have to be wasted and just the way it is.

so i assume if the bacteria and virus' are small enough they pass through the RO membrane? where a UV would kill 99.9%? this is probably the same equal efficiency in removing bacteria and virus'

i have to assume thats what i had, one of those. i've ruled out russet mites from the two hour inspection i did over the weekend.

i mean i guess this test right here answers all that, right? with the peroxide it takes bacteria and virus' out the equation, correct?

if i just hold the h2o2 levels at like ten for the first month i'll know if the problem is gone.. i think i'd just like to know that it's possible to grow right now and if this problems continue i can 100% rule out water? if the problem goes away then i'll be down to try some other way out to clean the water.

this is how i'm thinking in my head, dos that all sound accurate from your screen?



wait up so you're saying i can run an RO filter from a submersible pump? the big ones have enough pressure? i have a few of them here.



huh?? how were you controlling it all this time? saw there was a new firmware update a week or so ago,, added some feature in the lighting but i haven't figured out what it does yet, too lazy to look it up,, haha

but i thought you always had the app and thats how you used it even until you learned you can just double click the power button? i'm confused.

how are liking your new austin glass?

Well that was supposed to be a link to the Race Day light scheme I created but I guess I have'nt6 figured it out yet?
IDK man...me and apps don't get along too well a lot of the time.

To get RO from a submersible would probably take one of those big pumps for removing water from a flooded basement in a hurry.
Something like this with the built in float valve

https://www.harborfreight.com/plumbing/pumps/13-hp-submersible-sump-pump-with-vertical-float-3400-gph-57718.html

Most common I see are non submersible inline transfer pumps like these at HF

https://www.harborfreight.com/plumbing/pumps/110-hp-transfer-pump-320-gph-63317.html

With these you would need a float valve with an electrical switch in your collection tank so when it's topped off it does not over flow and will turn off the pump.
How it's arranged would depend on size of the tanks but I'm thinking that if I understand your rig correctly I would probably go with the basement submersible but also use a redundant float switch in the collection tank to turn the pump off when you have enough water.
Other than that, any pump will work and even gravity could work if the water supply was elevated high enough with small diameter tubing.
Speaking of tubing, these filters all use 1/4" tubing, kinda like bowden tubes for water, which will help increase the water pressure in the system.

The main thing is a PSI of 40-90 must be achieved to get the needed pressure at the RO membrane. Really you could gravity filter thru sediment and carbon then booster pump into the RO chamber.
It's not exactly cookie cutter I guess is what I'm trying to convey here. Once you get 40PSI and can shut down flow automatically you're good to go and can configure it any way that fits your needs

 

[GrumpAzz]

Yeah man.. it's all easy peasy considering the scope of some of your other projects.

My only thoughts after Bandit's points, I don't know if I'd go with that large of a submersible. I'm just thinking of how long it might be running to get 50-100 gallons of RO and envision it heating up the water. Maybe that's not an issue, though. My resevoir sits until I run out of top-off water...

Either way, I'd got with a transfer pump and a pressure switch. Something like this...

Pump Switch 1/4" Quick Connect

Tank Pressure shut-off switch PWS W/Wire harness features, Pump Switch 1/4" Quick Connect is used to control the on/off of the Aquatec booster pump 6800 series and 8800 series. Application is installed on a reverse osmosis water system. Instructions are included in the packaging. This...

www.reverseosmosis.com

Float valve in the resevoir will let this little thing shut the pump off when it's full.

 

[moe.red]

so i assume if the bacteria and virus' are small enough they pass through the RO membrane? where a UV would kill 99.9%? this is probably the same equal efficiency in removing bacteria and virus'

i have to assume thats what i had, one of those. i've ruled out russet mites from the two hour inspection i did over the weekend.

i mean i guess this test right here answers all that, right? with the peroxide it takes bacteria and virus' out the equation, correct?

if i just hold the h2o2 levels at like ten for the first month i'll know if the problem is gone.. i think i'd just like to know that it's possible to grow right now and if this problems continue i can 100% rule out water? if the problem goes away then i'll be down to try some other way out to clean the water.

this is how i'm thinking in my head, dos that all sound accurate from your screen?

Bacteria and viruses are mostly removed by the RO membrane. Only the very smallest can get thru.

Peroxide takes water borne pathogens out of the mix. Will not have any impact on stuff getting passed around on trimmers and such. For example hop latent viroid will not be touched by what you do with water. But your uv and ozone will hopefully zap any of that stuff

 

[GrumpAzz]

Hot lady what now?!

 

[Bandit420]

Yeah man.. it's all easy peasy considering the scope of some of your other projects.

My only thoughts after Bandit's points, I don't know if I'd go with that large of a submersible. I'm just thinking of how long it might be running to get 50-100 gallons of RO and envision it heating up the water. Maybe that's not an issue, though. My resevoir sits until I run out of top-off water...

Either way, I'd got with a transfer pump and a pressure switch. Something like this...

Pump Switch 1/4" Quick Connect

Tank Pressure shut-off switch PWS W/Wire harness features, Pump Switch 1/4" Quick Connect is used to control the on/off of the Aquatec booster pump 6800 series and 8800 series. Application is installed on a reverse osmosis water system. Instructions are included in the packaging. This...

www.reverseosmosis.com

Float valve in the resevoir will let this little thing shut the pump off when it's full.

I'd agree simply because the inline allows a ton more options in the overall system install.
The inline allows it to be in a position very close to the filter then the filter can be almost anywhere.
But with the submersible, that filter will need to be as close to the pump as can be and that usually mean mounting the filter to the rain barrel where it will be exposed to elements unless a housing is built for it..

Another thing to consider Stoney, is the waste line.
An RO system will have 2 lines coming off it. One is filtered you collect and the other is waste.
Most common, the waste goes to a drain.
But if your waste water is not brackish then it can be used so where ever your filter would be, you could run the waste line outside to refill your pond or water trees, garden, etc. If it's contaminated with a bio nasty, fill a tank with it and treat the tank with h2o2 then use it in the landscape

 

[Stoneyluv]

Well that was supposed to be a link to the Race Day light scheme I created but I guess I have'nt6 figured it out yet?
IDK man...me and apps don't get along too well a lot of the time.

ahhh yeah i want that!!!!! i got your back man, this is how ya do it.. first logon to your app and open the mood lights, then do this...

https://imgur.com/a/rCNlZ9V

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i looked into that new feature... dude it changes the tempo of the mood light according to how we inhale!!!!! C'MON!!!!!



you need the AV firmware to use it...

To get RO from a submersible would probably take one of those big pumps for removing water from a flooded basement in a hurry.
Something like this with the built in float valve
https://www.harborfreight.com/plumb...-pump-with-vertical-float-3400-gph-57718.html

i have a couple of those big ass pumps, i have one connected to a two inch hose for my pond.. "it's a get the water out quick" emergency pump.

Most common I see are non submersible inline transfer pumps like these at HF
https://www.harborfreight.com/plumbing/pumps/110-hp-transfer-pump-320-gph-63317.html

i think this kind would work much better for my setup. in case i never showed this.. btw, i put a piece of my pond filtering on the rain collector versus the carbon mat, this is 8 ply with 5 filtration levels and two of them are smaller than the carbon mat so i put a piece of that on there today...



but i get my water from the bottom of the collector, through a 25 foot drinking hose (not vinyl) to the window of my basement..



i stick the hose in the hole of the barrel and turn the valve on.. this is how i fill the barrel.



my hydro setup and mixing barrel is just six foot from this barrel... the white lid in the bottom right of this photo is my hydro mixing barrel.



and thats my water setup... i get 1 psi for every two foot of elevation.

i think it would be better if i left the outdoor collector alone and just treated the water that comes inside. i could put an inline pump on that hose that comes in and mount the pump to the wall along with an RO filter.

i think this might be better than using a submersible.

With these you would need a float valve with an electrical switch in your collection tank so when it's topped off it does not over flow and will turn off the pump.
How it's arranged would depend on size of the tanks but I'm thinking that if I understand your rig correctly I would probably go with the basement submersible but also use a redundant float switch in the collection tank to turn the pump off when you have enough water.
Other than that, any pump will work and even gravity could work if the water supply was elevated high enough with small diameter tubing.
Speaking of tubing, these filters all use 1/4" tubing, kinda like bowden tubes for water, which will help increase the water pressure in the system.

The main thing is a PSI of 40-90 must be achieved to get the needed pressure at the RO membrane. Really you could gravity filter thru sediment and carbon then booster pump into the RO chamber.
It's not exactly cookie cutter I guess is what I'm trying to convey here. Once you get 40PSI and can shut down flow automatically you're good to go and can configure it any way that fits your needs

i can handle all the controls and power, i'm just not sure of the hardware needed. i'll have to look for a pump.

i have one right now that i could try.. it even has a built in pressure off switch. it's designed to be a shower pump for an RV.



it's right at the bare minimum but it would be a way i could try an RO filter before buying a new pump.

Yeah man.. it's all easy peasy considering the scope of some of your other projects.

My only thoughts after Bandit's points, I don't know if I'd go with that large of a submersible. I'm just thinking of how long it might be running to get 50-100 gallons of RO and envision it heating up the water. Maybe that's not an issue, though. My resevoir sits until I run out of top-off water...

Either way, I'd got with a transfer pump and a pressure switch. Something like this...

Pump Switch 1/4" Quick Connect

Tank Pressure shut-off switch PWS W/Wire harness features, Pump Switch 1/4" Quick Connect is used to control the on/off of the Aquatec booster pump 6800 series and 8800 series. Application is installed on a reverse osmosis water system. Instructions are included in the packaging. This...

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Float valve in the resevoir will let this little thing shut the pump off when it's full.

yeah i agree, an inline would probably last longer too..

Bacteria and viruses are mostly removed by the RO membrane. Only the very smallest can get thru.

Peroxide takes water borne pathogens out of the mix. Will not have any impact on stuff getting passed around on trimmers and such. For example hop latent viroid will not be touched by what you do with water. But your uv and ozone will hopefully zap any of that stuff

i've been sticking to protocol Moe, new gloves each time and i wear my mr. wizard lab coat!! not sure if i mentioned this but i busted out my old sanitizer that i had from mushroom stuff and i have been putting all my tools and beakers in it each time i use one i put it back in there and blast it!!

Hot lady what now?!

hop latent viroid.... she's a real bitch that one!!!!!!!!!!!!! haha

I'd agree simply because the inline allows a ton more options in the overall system install.
The inline allows it to be in a position very close to the filter then the filter can be almost anywhere.
But with the submersible, that filter will need to be as close to the pump as can be and that usually mean mounting the filter to the rain barrel where it will be exposed to elements unless a housing is built for it..

thats a good point, keeping the filter close to the pump. i could mount a board to the wall and mount everything right next to each other.

Another thing to consider Stoney, is the waste line.
An RO system will have 2 lines coming off it. One is filtered you collect and the other is waste.
Most common, the waste goes to a drain.
But if your waste water is not brackish then it can be used so where ever your filter would be, you could run the waste line outside to refill your pond or water trees, garden, etc. If it's contaminated with a bio nasty, fill a tank with it and treat the tank with h2o2 then use it in the landscap

yes, we've been discussing the waste... thats what kinda started all this detail talk.. i'll figure something out. i already have a second ran collector behind my garage and use that one for the pond. it's more than i ever use for it. i have a third smaller one on the other end of the garage for the chickens... i'm just a rain collecting fool man!!!!! hahaha

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so maybe if i could use that pump i had now just to try it out i could get started for under $100. i already own float valves and some tubbing..

 

[GrumpAzz]

i get 1 psi for every two foot of elevation.

Easy peasy. Mount your rain barrels 80 feet in the air.. done.

 

[Stoneyluv]

Easy peasy. Mount your rain barrels 80 feet in the air.. done.

ian't gonna lie.. there was a time or two i thought about building a water tower!!!

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a little slackin on a couple but so far we're lookin good!!!

no berry widows yet and one shine is upside down. if nothing happens on the berry widows i may start a backup.. i'll decide tomorrow night. i'll probably help the shell off of that one purple lobster.. all the others are aces!!!

 

[ninjadip]

ian't gonna lie.. there was a time or two i thought about building a water tower!!!

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a little slackin on a couple but so far we're lookin good!!!

no berry widows yet and one shine is upside down. if nothing happens on the berry widows i may start a backup.. i'll decide tomorrow night. i'll probably help the shell off of that one purple lobster.. all the others are aces!!!

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How you set that up like that? What am I looking at? I love it lol

 

[Stoneyluv]

How you set that up like that? What am I looking at? I love it lol

you don't have one yet? thats Bandit's vertical germinator.. the patented wavy wall keeps the tap roots nice and neat and is quite possible the most stress free way just behind direct sowing.

I'll print you one out man, Bandit has a newer model that is better so i'll ask him for the files and send ya one!




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all systems are a go!!!!

got all the seedlings in soil tonight and watered them in with great white. two of the berry widow did germinate but grew upside down and never found gravity.. i put them in soil but i have no hope.. last nigh i went ahead and soaked three more Anesia seeds, Indigo Sapphire.

these were the two berry widow..



on the flip side of that coin the third The Shine that came up upside down did find gravity and was just tucked in the VG, i have full confidence she will make it!!!



the three Indigo Sapphire will be a few days behind..





Family shot.... day 1



have a great weekend everybody!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[ninjadip]

you don't have one yet? thats Bandit's vertical germinator.. the patented wavy wall keeps the tap roots nice and neat and is quite possible the most stress free way just behind direct sowing.

I'll print you one out man, Bandit has a newer model that is better so i'll ask him for the files and send ya one!

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all systems are a go!!!!

got all the seedlings in soil tonight and watered them in with great white. two of the berry widow did germinate but grew upside down and never found gravity.. i put them in soil but i have no hope.. last nigh i went ahead and soaked three more Anesia seeds, Indigo Sapphire.

these were the two berry widow..

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on the flip side of that coin the third The Shine that came up upside down did find gravity and was just tucked in the VG, i have full confidence she will make it!!!

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the three Indigo Sapphire will be a few days behind..

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Family shot.... day 1

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have a great weekend everybody!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have one that he printed me, I just was looking at how you had it setup, cool for sure

 

[steamroller]

Stoney made me this extra large one as he knows I lack proper counting control.

Does 22 seeds~!

 

[Stoneyluv]

I have one that he printed me, I just was looking at how you had it setup, cool for sure

it works the same as the othe VG's this one is a rez and cover with it. a little tricky loading one side full and then turning it upside side down to load the other side but so far i've never had an issue.

this is the most i've ever started at one time.. normally don't start 21 at one one time.

Stoney made me this extra large one as he knows I lack proper counting control.
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Does 22 seeds~!


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and if there was one even bigger than you'd have it!!! even the XL isn't quite enough slots for you. you need a 3xl!!! haha

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the one Berry Widow made it, The Shine in soil did not.. the three Indigo Sapphire all sprouted and have heads above soil.



i also dropped some test seeds last night, i want to test my rain water so i germinated some extra seeds in rain water and will be watering only the test plants with it and when it's time to upcan i'll put them outside.

i will be trying a UV aquarium filter in my water barrel, thanks Steamroller!!!



all the other plants i will be watering with my tap water to be safe.

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i also brought my harvest upstairs and put the buds in my old drying cabinet, my diy cannatrol is full right now so i need to make a bigger one. buds are getting crispy!!!!



some very nice smelling plants this round.. the sour tangie is everything i hoped for. the big surprise is the rainbow kush, smells incredible!!!
and also the Oracle Octane smells the best of all of them. a real stinker!!! like a wood pussy dipped in racing fuel wearing a shitty diaper!!!



keep dry everybody!!!

 

[doublej]

it works the same as the othe VG's this one is a rez and cover with it. a little tricky loading one side full and then turning it upside side down to load the other side but so far i've never had an issue.

this is the most i've ever started at one time.. normally don't start 21 at one one time.



and if there was one even bigger than you'd have it!!! even the XL isn't quite enough slots for you. you need a 3xl!!! haha

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the one Berry Widow made it, The Shine in soil did not.. the three Indigo Sapphire all sprouted and have heads above soil.

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i also dropped some test seeds last night, i want to test my rain water so i germinated some extra seeds in rain water and will be watering only the test plants with it and when it's time to upcan i'll put them outside.

i will be trying a UV aquarium filter in my water barrel, thanks Steamroller!!!

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all the other plants i will be watering with my tap water to be safe.

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i also brought my harvest upstairs and put the buds in my old drying cabinet, my diy cannatrol is full right now so i need to make a bigger one. buds are getting crispy!!!!

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some very nice smelling plants this round.. the sour tangie is everything i hoped for. the big surprise is the rainbow kush, smells incredible!!!
and also the Oracle Octane smells the best of all of them. a real stinker!!! like a wood pussy dipped in racing fuel wearing a shitty diaper!!!

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keep dry everybody!!!

Long time scene I've seen the dry cab...nice work buddy...

 

[Stoneyluv]

Long time scene I've seen the dry cab...nice work buddy...

been a couple harvests since i used it.. nice to have it when i need it.. i bet the carpenter that made that in the 1920's never thought it would be used to dry ganja!!!! haha

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hammer down!!!!!!

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[doublej]

been a couple harvests since i used it.. nice to have it when i need it.. i bet the carpenter that made that in the 1920's never thought it would be used to dry ganja!!!! haha

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hammer down!!!!!!

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Nice.........

I'm about 20 minutes away from the race Park, where they have those 2 times a year... hahahaha..I've never been..to many people & I don't have any interest in sitting out in the sun. It's on Some channel anyway...still cool though...

 

[Stoneyluv]

Nice.........

I'm about 20 minutes away from the race Park, where they have those 2 times a year... hahahaha..I've never been..to many people & I don't have any interest in sitting out in the sun. It's on Some channel anyway...still cool though...

hot, sticky, and loaded with skeeters!!!! almost all sports are better on my tv!! haha

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end of week one and all is well, no drama...



some are short...

some are tall...


some are big...


and some are small...

 

[doublej]

hot, sticky, and loaded with skeeters!!!! almost all sports are better on my tv!! haha

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end of week one and all is well, no drama...

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some are short...
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I look at that, and I am very cofie saying nnnnever ever again... nonsense for me anyway..
I still have better than half left, half of that would be better...

 

[Bandit420]

hot, sticky, and loaded with skeeters!!!! almost all sports are better on my tv!! haha

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end of week one and all is well, no drama...

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Man, best of luck with this grow and sorting out that water sitchyation.

All your talk about your peach trees got me craving peaches. I got some but they were picked way too early and was kinda bummed then somehow news of this made it's way into my inbox so now I'm thinking of doing the fruit festival circuit while on vacation. This one is only an hour down the road heading west..

Peach JAMboree

65th Annual Stonewall Peach JAMboree & Rodeo - June 18-20, 2026 Stonewall Peach JAMboree Forms, Applications, and Information 2026 Peach JAMboree Baking Contest Rules & Entry Guidelines 2026 Peach Queen Court Contestant Application 2026 Peach JAMboree Parade Registration Form

stonewalltexas.com

Peaches this weekend, watermelon festival next weekend at the Luling Watermelon Thump, then dirt track racing again on July 5th.
I wonder if it's gonna be like the Bubba Gump of peaches?

 

[Stoneyluv]

I look at that, and I am very cofie saying nnnnever ever again... nonsense for me anyway..
I still have better than half left, half of that would be better...

what the volume of plants??? why you no like so many... huh?? too much work?? too small?? whats you beef stroganoff?

i'm not flowering all of those.. three won't make the cut!! hehe

Man, best of luck with this grow and sorting out that water sitchyation.

All your talk about your peach trees got me craving peaches. I got some but they were picked way too early and was kinda bummed then somehow news of this made it's way into my inbox so now I'm thinking of doing the fruit festival circuit while on vacation. This one is only an hour down the road heading west..

Peach JAMboree

65th Annual Stonewall Peach JAMboree & Rodeo - June 18-20, 2026 Stonewall Peach JAMboree Forms, Applications, and Information 2026 Peach JAMboree Baking Contest Rules & Entry Guidelines 2026 Peach Queen Court Contestant Application 2026 Peach JAMboree Parade Registration Form

stonewalltexas.com

Peaches this weekend, watermelon festival next weekend at the Luling Watermelon Thump, then dirt track racing again on July 5th.
I wonder if it's gonna be like the Bubba Gump of peaches?

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oh man thats a match made in heaven right there.. peaches and watermelon.. Cindy says she wants to visit you!!!! she eats watermelon pretty much every single day!! no exaggeration!!

i took my pickin pole out there before and snagged these three testers.... (watermelon was from the store today!!) haha



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so when i installed that UV filter in my water barrel it forced me to cut an access hole in the top. and now i can see/get a pressure washer wand in there. it's not terrible, but it ain't clean either.. i think it may be algae carcass (if thats a real thing)




once i use the water i'll take it outside and wash it out good. for now it's got the UV with an aquarium sponge and i put a modified raindrip filter on the output.



the seeds for this test are popping.. i germinated them in the rainwater from the very start. i'll put these in soil late tonight or tomorrow.



and i printed matching hinges and knob as my rez for style points!!!! haha

 

[BlueCollarBob]

what the volume of plants??? why you no like so many... huh?? too much work?? too small?? whats you beef stroganoff?

i'm not flowering all of those.. three won't make the cut!! hehe



oh man thats a match made in heaven right there.. peaches and watermelon.. Cindy says she wants to visit you!!!! she eats watermelon pretty much every single day!! no exaggeration!!

i took my pickin pole out there before and snagged these three testers.... (watermelon was from the store today!!) haha

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so when i installed that UV filter in my water barrel it forced me to cut an access hole in the top. and now i can see/get a pressure washer wand in there. it's not terrible, but it ain't clean either.. i think it may be algae carcass (if thats a real thing)

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once i use the water i'll take it outside and wash it out good. for now it's got the UV with an aquarium sponge and i put a modified raindrip filter on the output.

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the seeds for this test are popping.. i germinated them in the rainwater from the very start. i'll put these in soil late tonight or tomorrow.

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and i printed matching hinges and knob as my rez for style points!!!! haha

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It stinks that you’ve had to invest so much effort in your water supply. Especially after it’s done you so good for so long. I’m sure the peace of mind that all of these improvements bring will be a sweet payoff going forward. Nice work!

You guys are making it really hard for me to resist moving a printer up on my long list of wants. The vertical germinator got the wheels spinning, but the potential with every new thing I see you guys creating just feeds my interest.

 

[doublej]

what the volume of plants??? why you no like so many... huh?? too much work?? too small?? whats you beef stroganoff?

i'm not flowering all of those.. three won't make the cut!! hehe

Yes...

oh man thats a match made in heaven right there.. peaches and watermelon.. Cindy says she wants to visit you!!!! she eats watermelon pretty much every single day!! no exaggeration!!

i took my pickin pole out there before and snagged these three testers.... (watermelon was from the store today!!) haha

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so when i installed that UV filter in my water barrel it forced me to cut an access hole in the top. and now i can see/get a pressure washer wand in there. it's not terrible, but it ain't clean either.. i think it may be algae carcass (if thats a real thing)

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once i use the water i'll take it outside and wash it out good. for now it's got the UV with an aquarium sponge and i put a modified raindrip filter on the output.

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the seeds for this test are popping.. i germinated them in the rainwater from the very start. i'll put these in soil late tonight or tomorrow.

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and i printed matching hinges and knob as my rez for style points!!!! haha

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[Bandit420]

what the volume of plants??? why you no like so many... huh?? too much work?? too small?? whats you beef stroganoff?

i'm not flowering all of those.. three won't make the cut!! hehe



oh man thats a match made in heaven right there.. peaches and watermelon.. Cindy says she wants to visit you!!!! she eats watermelon pretty much every single day!! no exaggeration!!

i took my pickin pole out there before and snagged these three testers.... (watermelon was from the store today!!) haha

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so when i installed that UV filter in my water barrel it forced me to cut an access hole in the top. and now i can see/get a pressure washer wand in there. it's not terrible, but it ain't clean either.. i think it may be algae carcass (if thats a real thing)

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once i use the water i'll take it outside and wash it out good. for now it's got the UV with an aquarium sponge and i put a modified raindrip filter on the output.

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the seeds for this test are popping.. i germinated them in the rainwater from the very start. i'll put these in soil late tonight or tomorrow.

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and i printed matching hinges and knob as my rez for style points!!!! haha

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Went to a peach festival and came home with a watermelon



We've had so many watermelons this year I've lost count. Probably 2 a week since early May. We were gonna stop at the store for another on the way home but they had a tractor pulling a cart with a really good looking stack of melons on it so I got a melon off that cart.

Had the best peach cobbler with peach ice cream I've ever had and stopped at three different orchards.
We were too high and everything looked good so our peach haul had us riding low in the water on the way home!

 

[doublej]

Went to a peach festival and came home with a watermelon

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We've had so many watermelons this year I've lost count. Probably 2 a week since early May. We were gonna stop at the store for another on the way home but they had a tractor pulling a cart with a really good looking stack of melons on it so I got a melon off that cart.

Had the best peach cobbler with peach ice cream I've ever had and stopped at three different orchards.
We were too high and everything looked good so our peach haul had us riding low in the water on the way home!

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That Peach Pecan...u prolly not like so much.....you have my addy.......

 

[ninjadip]

Went to a peach festival and came home with a watermelon

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We've had so many watermelons this year I've lost count. Probably 2 a week since early May. We were gonna stop at the store for another on the way home but they had a tractor pulling a cart with a really good looking stack of melons on it so I got a melon off that cart.

Had the best peach cobbler with peach ice cream I've ever had and stopped at three different orchards.
We were too high and everything looked good so our peach haul had us riding low in the water on the way home!

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Just made a peach crisp last night!! Was amazing

 

[Stoneyluv]

Went to a peach festival and came home with a watermelon

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We've had so many watermelons this year I've lost count. Probably 2 a week since early May. We were gonna stop at the store for another on the way home but they had a tractor pulling a cart with a really good looking stack of melons on it so I got a melon off that cart.

Had the best peach cobbler with peach ice cream I've ever had and stopped at three different orchards.
We were too high and everything looked good so our peach haul had us riding low in the water on the way home!

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oh man give me that bottom row and a box of ritz and you won't see me for a couple days!!!!!

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who knows, maybe when you go to the watermelon fest you'll come home with a basket of peaches!!! hahaha

couple weeks ago we were cruzing through jersey and i did a brake check for one of those melon wagons!!! haha
got two watermelon and a honeydew.. wish i would have bought five of those honeydew man, they were so perfect!!!

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shitty rain!!! i should have known better than a weekend without rain.. wasn't even on the forecast.. came in like a banshee, knocked out my power and left!! wtf?!?! got internet though so could be worse i guess.. got the genny going to keep the freezers from melting.

race starts at 430 now...

go #5!!!!!!!!

 

[doublej]

It says Logano 17 years in NASCAR...fk..
Makes me really feel old....

 

[Stoneyluv]

It says Logano 17 years in NASCAR...fk..
Makes me really feel old....

hahaha right?!?!? watchin jr yesterday on the box and thinking back to when he and kenseth came out rookie year together.. fuck it feels like just a few years ago!!