Winter Run

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47F

Been a minute. Life got up to shit, you know how it is. Either way we coming up on the start of week 8. We had more cases of self induced re-veg, or at least we think. The Real Sours were affected the most, but all the tents were touched some what. We believe between our heavy defoliation 14F and a combination of upping the PPM's around the same time caused some interesting side affects. The Apples & Banana's has one plant that's completely normal.

Real Sours: You can see in some of the pictures how the calix are split into long fox tailish looking nugs instead of solid dense ones. There are examples of decent looking nugs, but almost all the tops are airy. She's a 9-11 week girl so we still got plenty of time for things to change, and we know it will, but right now it's a little bum.


Durban Poison and the Glitter Bomb: The Durbans are likely the least affected as a whole by our error. They have some leafy funk on the top of most of the tops, but everything else below that is straight dongs. One plant was affected more than the rest, but even then, it's still not bad. The Glitter Bomb was putting on a frost show and really doing some packing but then got stunted for about 2ish weeks. A lot of her frost also went amber. It was like she was finishing on week 4. After adjusting the water down things cleared up a bit. She's not going to be a chunker like the last run, but she'll be still plenty of good smoke.

Apples & Banana's: Tent has some of the most afflicted and least influenced all under one light. Wild. Anyways, back right really was unaffected by any of the bull shit. All fat fucking golfball tops. Her sisters...well pictures show. They're chunky, but in a wild kinda way.



Overall will be a solid harvest. It's been nice in the bay and the girls have been getting a good dose of warmth. Next run is getting huuuuge. Need these girls to finish to make room lol. That'll be the last run till the fall. Tired of dealing with 100+ degree garage.

Temp: 85F
RH: 57%
PPFD: 850~
PPM: 1000

 

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The Apples&Banana's, Glitter Bomb and Durban Poison got the chop. Only ones left are the Real Sours.

Some shots of the real sours and how they're doing:
The N Toxicity did a number on them. They are filling out decently now that we've cut the N back, but still :/


Lastly Some parting shots of the rest of the girls:


Next run is getting scary big lol. We'll take some pictures here soon, but needless to say the dante's inferno's are going to be HUUUUUUGE.

 

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So we chopped the last of the girls from that run. The Glitter Bomb and Apples & Banana's have finished drying already. Unfortunately we have to dry in the garage so its been warm. Finished in about a week :/ Glitter Bomb has all been trimmed up. Got about 1/3lb of her. Just like our last run terp and smoke wise. Working through the Apples & Banana's right now. Going to get some weight off them. Will take pictures...eventually lol.

Anyways on to the next run. Only running two strains this time. Trop Cherry and a Mile High Dave cut of Dante's Inferno. We took these cuts back at the end of March...they have had some time to veg to say the least. The Dante's inferno's are ahead as far as flowering goes and just hit 7F today. The Trop Cherry's are only day 3F.

Trop Cherry: We got 8 of them packed in there right now, but that's only because one of their tents is being used to dry our last run. Once we get the Durban Poisons trimmed up we can move the Real Sours (all 5 racks) to another smaller tent to finish drying and move the other trop cherry's into their home. And then we're going to turn on the CO2. Not going to change anything compared to the other tent, simply add CO2 and see what happens. Most have been in their respect 3gal pots for at least 2 weeks, some even longer.


Dante's Inferno's: Yeah we fucked up. They're huge. We tried our best to flatten them out but they still have TWO MORE WEEKS OF STRETCH. Either way, it's a decent even canopy right now and hopefully we can keep it that way. Should have taken a picture of the trunks of these gals. Thicker than a snicker.


Temp: 78F
RH: 67%
PPFD: 525~
PPM: 900

 

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Alright it's been another week and the stretch has really been on.

Trop Cherries: 9F for these gals. We finally got the other tent emptied out and the girls in their perm homes. One tent has CO2 running at 1100PPM and the other is without. Girls usually perform really well in our system, so excited to see what the CO2 tent can do and what problems it will cause. They started budding up at 7F. Have to admit that's the earliest we've ever had obvious buds showing up.

W/O CO2:


/w CO2:


Dante's Inferno: It's been fun trying to keep these girls from kamikazing straight into the light. We have about 4-6 more inches of play between the light and the highest we can get it in the tent. Goal was to keep the light as is and raise once the stretch was done. It's sitting at around 12 inches right now and it's a tad too tight. Some hot spots are getting 850+PPFD, and for day 14F that feels like a tad too much light. Good thing is that the it's been keeping the bud spacing very tight on the taller lights.


Overall things are going well. Keeping our feed consistent this time around, no messing around with the numbers and possibly giving too much N. We are adding Purpinator, and that's the only thing that will change. We've been running RH pretty high in our last few grows, usually ending at 57% RH, feels a bit easier to keep things in control but we will see. Temps have been really warm, and that's likely been stressing them a bit, but they're just happy to finally be off to the races.


Temp: 90F
RH: 67%
PPFD: 600~
PPM: 900

 

[Observer]

Alright it's been another week and the stretch has really been on.

Trop Cherries: 9F for these gals. We finally got the other tent emptied out and the girls in their perm homes. One tent has CO2 running at 1100PPM and the other is without. Girls usually perform really well in our system, so excited to see what the CO2 tent can do and what problems it will cause. They started budding up at 7F. Have to admit that's the earliest we've ever had obvious buds showing up.

W/O CO2:
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/w CO2:
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Dante's Inferno: It's been fun trying to keep these girls from kamikazing straight into the light. We have about 4-6 more inches of play between the light and the highest we can get it in the tent. Goal was to keep the light as is and raise once the stretch was done. It's sitting at around 12 inches right now and it's a tad too tight. Some hot spots are getting 850+PPFD, and for day 14F that feels like a tad too much light. Good thing is that the it's been keeping the bud spacing very tight on the taller lights.
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Overall things are going well. Keeping our feed consistent this time around, no messing around with the numbers and possibly giving too much N. We are adding Purpinator, and that's the only thing that will change. We've been running RH pretty high in our last few grows, usually ending at 57% RH, feels a bit easier to keep things in control but we will see. Temps have been really warm, and that's likely been stressing them a bit, but they're just happy to finally be off to the races.


Temp: 90F
RH: 67%
PPFD: 600~
PPM: 900

nice

i like to run 80sF+ 70s rh , drop temps and rh last week or two.

 

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Almost another week in the books and shits looking good. The Dante's inferno are going to get a heavy defoliating tomorrow. The trop cherry's are still about a week away from having their heavy clean up.

Trop Cherry's: We at 15F. We had the lights a tad too close. Some of them got a little annoyed by the extra intensity, but seem to recovering well. The CO2 tent looks like it has a bunch more mass to it, and seems to be producing more vegetation faster, but unsure if that's just the plants, or in our heads. Longer flower goes on the more we will be able to tell we hope.

W/O CO2:


/W CO2

Dante's Inferno: 20F and we're almost done. Raised the light so they weren't getting smashed by it. Needless to say need to clean this tent up, it's out of control, but that's tomorrows problem.


Temp: 87F
RH: 65%
PPFD: 700~
PPM: 950

 

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Smoll update.

Just showing off the defoliation of the Dantes Inferno's. So fucking tall. Legit like 6+ feet

 

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Defoliation DONE.

Well...the Dante's leaves all grew so it looks cluttered as fuck again. We'll deal with that. We are pushing them pretty hard right now, and probably too hard in the CO2 and the pictures will show. Overall things are looking solid! Our first run with Dante's so no idea really how we're doing there, but we've run the Trop enough times to know it's going well!

Trop Cherry: These girls are smashn right now. Let the tops get away from us a bit. Probably should have had the PPFD higher at the start of flower, but oh well. The tent without CO2 could probably use a smidge more PPFD, and the CO2 could use a smidge less, so bumped them around to around 800PPFD and 950PPFD respectively.

No CO2:


CO2: Those with a more experienced eye can probably lend some advice here. They all look a little light to us, so we backed the PPFD off about 50-100PPFD. Is this likely light stress or a def? We're running 1200 PPM CO2, lights around 900~PPFD, not really smashing hard with the food, only sitting around 950PPMs. Just from looking at the top down picture it looks like only the tops are hit and the ones directly under the boards the most affected.


Dante's Inferno: First time running these girls. Sheesh, we done gone goofed and let them veg wayyy to long. Stretch on these girls was intense, even with the light slamming on them from 1F. These girls can really take some light, the very tops are hard to see, but most of this tent is chilling around 850PPFD. Resin production is strong, but the bud development so far has been nothing to write home about.


Overall things feel good. Dante's is a bit overgrown again, and the CO2 is proving to be trouble, but we expected that. Nothing insane yet, but it's only week 3. We'll see what happens over the next few days.

Temp: 83F
RH: 65%
CO2: 1200
PPFD: 900~
PPM: 950

 

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Alright been a few days and despite it being hot as hell things are going well. We shut the CO2 off in the other Trop Cherry tent. Ended up not feeling as adventurous as we thought.

Trop Cherry: 27F for these girls and gawd damn are they starting bulk up. Usually don't get much color till week 4-5 and that seems to be the case here again. They look like they're on the same track to really put out some crazy buds. It is much hotter than last October when we were running them, so we expect a hit for that. Both tents are sitting at about 950 PPFD with some tops getting 1100+. The CO2 tent has seemed to have recovered from what ever happened. Leaves are still a bit light in the back but they've gotten a lot better from where they were. Just bumped that one back up to the 950. Other tent has been sitting at 950 for the last few days. They got lighter in color for sure, but no outward signs of problems yet.


Dante's Inferno: 32F With how overgrown this tent is it's hard to get in there and get quality pictures. Solidly into week 4 now and things look good. Resin production is amazing, and the buds are starting to put some weight on. Obviously not nearly as much as the Trop, but it's a welcomed sight. Curious to see how big the buds will get. Knowing this is an Oreoz cross, and from how our Oreoz normally grows, we expect it to really pack on weight late, but time will tell. PPFD is a little less even in this tent, as the canopy is everywhere, but most spots are around the 700-800 range. Some tops are getting just blasted at like 2000+ but that's the cost for the rest of the canopy.


Upped the Purpinator to 10ml/g and saw the tips get some color. Thinking that's about as hard as we can push for now. PPMs are sitting at 1100. Still keeping the base nutes where they've always been. Dante's are drinking about 4.5L of water a day and the trops are sitting at 3L a day. Only get about 2 days of water out of our 25g res. Going to be really fun once we hit mid flower and these girls really start pounding the water.

Eventually we want to get a drip system set up, but first goal is to get a 10x10 and get that squared away.

Temp: 90F
RH: 60%
CO2: 0
PPFD: 950
PPM: 1100

 

[Observer]

Alright been a few days and despite it being hot as hell things are going well. We shut the CO2 off in the other Trop Cherry tent. Ended up not feeling as adventurous as we thought.

Trop Cherry: 27F for these girls and gawd damn are they starting bulk up. Usually don't get much color till week 4-5 and that seems to be the case here again. They look like they're on the same track to really put out some crazy buds. It is much hotter than last October when we were running them, so we expect a hit for that. Both tents are sitting at about 950 PPFD with some tops getting 1100+. The CO2 tent has seemed to have recovered from what ever happened. Leaves are still a bit light in the back but they've gotten a lot better from where they were. Just bumped that one back up to the 950. Other tent has been sitting at 950 for the last few days. They got lighter in color for sure, but no outward signs of problems yet.
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Dante's Inferno: 32F With how overgrown this tent is it's hard to get in there and get quality pictures. Solidly into week 4 now and things look good. Resin production is amazing, and the buds are starting to put some weight on. Obviously not nearly as much as the Trop, but it's a welcomed sight. Curious to see how big the buds will get. Knowing this is an Oreoz cross, and from how our Oreoz normally grows, we expect it to really pack on weight late, but time will tell. PPFD is a little less even in this tent, as the canopy is everywhere, but most spots are around the 700-800 range. Some tops are getting just blasted at like 2000+ but that's the cost for the rest of the canopy.
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Upped the Purpinator to 10ml/g and saw the tips get some color. Thinking that's about as hard as we can push for now. PPMs are sitting at 1100. Still keeping the base nutes where they've always been. Dante's are drinking about 4.5L of water a day and the trops are sitting at 3L a day. Only get about 2 days of water out of our 25g res. Going to be really fun once we hit mid flower and these girls really start pounding the water.

Eventually we want to get a drip system set up, but first goal is to get a 10x10 and get that squared away.

Temp: 90F
RH: 60%
CO2: 0
PPFD: 950
PPM: 1100

Drip with vwc% sensors?

Once that drip amount is dialed.....killer.

 

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Yeah and with the eventual move to rockwool slabs. That's likely even more into the future.

Since we move the trop cherry really well it likely be trial and error with the drip system on a smaller scale outside of the main grow.

 

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So we got another week in the books. Trop Cherry are at 37F and the Dante's Inferno's are at 41F.

Trop Cherry: Not quite as explosive as our October run last year. Heats been a lot hotter, keeping the lights off temps in the high 70's and mid 80's. Figuring that's going to cost us, don't know how much but some. Tips are pretty lit on most of them so we're going to back off the PK a bit or drop the EC. Best part of growing these girls is the awesome color and it's starting to come through. Excited to see how purple/amber these girls get.


Dante's Inferno: Starting to pack on size is the spots we can see them. Lesson learned about these girls, they stretch a ton. Frost is incredible, which makes sense seeing it's an oreoz cross, but it's always wild to see it in person. Excited to see how big the nugs will get.



Watering about 4L a day, having to start staggering the waters to help try to reduce how crazy the dry back is. Plants are to big to be hand fed once a day, even for a 3G pot. This is for sure going to drive the EC of the media up. Figure it's kinda late in the game to hit them with enzymes as there's prolly a decent amount of salt built up in the pots. Either way we reduced the PPFD a bit to help lighten the load. Down to around 850 in most places. Still some tops getting over 1000, but no longer most of the tent. PPMs for the water have remained roughly the same, somewhere between 1000-1100. RH is chilling at 60% and figure that's about as low as we're going to go for now. Towards the end we will drop to 55%.

Temp: 90F
RH: 60%
CO2: 0
PPFD: 850
PPM: 1050

 

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Not quite another week, but the fun has begun. 41F for the Trop Cherry and 46F for the Dante's. Dropping the light seemed to be a good move. Trop Cherry really responded well and starded bulking up fast. The Dante's have really started to pack on some weight. Picture don't really do her justice...or our growing but eh... Anyways:

Trop Cherry: Leafe color is returning to normal. We were pushing them, and it seems to hard. Since backing off the light they've made significant gains. The purple color is really starting to come through. The terps are loud as hell.

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Dante's Inferno: Starting to pack on size and weight. Definitely waited too long to take to flower.



Temp: 90F
RH: 60%
CO2: 0
PPFD: 850
PPM: 1000

 

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Not quite another week, but the fun has begun. 41F for the Trop Cherry and 46F for the Dante's. Dropping the light seemed to be a good move. Trop Cherry really responded well and starded bulking up fast. The Dante's have really started to pack on some weight. Picture don't really do her justice...or our growing but eh... Anyways:

Trop Cherry: Leafe color is returning to normal. We were pushing them, and it seems to hard. Since backing off the light they've made significant gains. The purple color is really starting to come through. The terps are loud as hell.
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Dante's Inferno: Starting to pack on size and weight. Definitely waited too long to take to flower.

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Temp: 90F
RH: 60%
CO2: 0
PPFD: 850
PPM: 1000

Lookking good how come so high on temps. Just asking because might up mine deoending on what you say. Im under led tunning 81 at moment 15 days into flower. Yoi think i should go higher

 

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TLDR: We grow in the garage.

House built in the 50's with a detached 2 car garage with 0 insulation. Have a portable AC unit blowing behind all three of the tents where their intake vents are, but that's about the extent of the 'cooling' going on in there. It's summer in California so temps are getting up there for us, but we're lucky enough to be in the Bay Area so temps are pretty mild compared to pretty much everywhere else.

That all being said, the reality is that lights come on at 4PM and go off at 4AM. So they're on during the night for the majority of the time. This is to help provide heat during the colder times and it's usually cooler at night during the hot days. The AC can keep the temps in the tents a couple degrees sub ambient with lights off and a bit above ambient with the lights on during the day (like 4-7PM). Once the sun goes down temps usually drop pretty rapidly, and by 8PM the tents are sitting around 84F. By 10PM the tents are 75F and that's where they usually sit from 10PM to 4AM. They might get a bit cooler as the night goes on but once the AC kicks off they'll climb back up a bit.

Just ordered a 10x10 to replace the three 5x5's we run now. Eventually we want to get an AC Terraform 7 and have that as the AC source for the tent. The AC unit we are running now doesn't really allow for ducting and would have to be placed inside the tent to really do it's job. With a 5x5 that just wasn't doable. With the 10x10 it should be and when ever AC Infinity decides to drop the Terraform again we'll have even more room.

As far as temps go I would say you're perfect. If we could dial in our CO2 and feed I think our temps would be a bit more manageable and make things better. But without those, we are loosing some. Here's a picture from our last run with the Trop Cherry. This was in the Fall of 23. Temps were in the mid 70's. This picture is from 39F.


Not to try and shit on our own grow, but the difference is pretty obvious to us. Thinking the additional heat is playing into it a bit, but we'll find out in a few months. Going to be running the TC exclusively in our 10x10.

 

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Yeh can imagine it gets hot over there. So probs best to run light through night.
How bout ur humidity 60 do you lower that abit towards the end if ya can.
Incase bud rot etc.

That trop cherry man i gota grow that one time. Bag appeal alone wud mek it sell easyyy here in the uk

 

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RH we usually try to end at 55 or so. I remember reading Aqua or Moe saying that the enemy of mold isn't RH but air flow. I'd like to think we have pretty decent air flow in the tents. We used to push it down to like 45 at the end of flower and always ended up frying the plants. Gotta level up our growing game before we can get down to that RH lol.

 

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Yeh i gota hang another one in there soon.

 

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Double post incoming.

So was chatting about our set up, here it is.

Three flowering tents on the right, a 2x4 that can't really be seen for vegging, the 5x5 for the moms and another 2x4 that's not pictured for vegging. Going to be getting rid of some stuff to make room for the 10x10, including that massive server rack in the back...what a mistake that was.

End game is to have the 10x10 be our perpetual grow of TC. As Brett said, it's got bag appeal, it's an easy mover. We don't really care for the smoke, so we will have another 5x5 to flower something we actually want to smoke. With a 660W light we're hoping to pull at least 1.5lbs. Should be enough for us to move and smoke. A last 5x5 for the moms and will have the not pictured 2x4 since it's so snuggly fit.

 

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RH we usually try to end at 55 or so. I remember reading Aqua or Moe saying that the enemy of mold isn't RH but air flow. I'd like to think we have pretty decent air flow in the tents. We used to push it down to like 45 at the end of flower and always ended up frying the plants. Gotta level up our growing game before we can get down to that RH lol.

Air flow is a huge variable in higher rh environments, supposedly the spores can't latch on and grow, from wind.

 

[Observer]

TLDR: We grow in the garage.

House built in the 50's with a detached 2 car garage with 0 insulation. Have a portable AC unit blowing behind all three of the tents where their intake vents are, but that's about the extent of the 'cooling' going on in there. It's summer in California so temps are getting up there for us, but we're lucky enough to be in the Bay Area so temps are pretty mild compared to pretty much everywhere else.

That all being said, the reality is that lights come on at 4PM and go off at 4AM. So they're on during the night for the majority of the time. This is to help provide heat during the colder times and it's usually cooler at night during the hot days. The AC can keep the temps in the tents a couple degrees sub ambient with lights off and a bit above ambient with the lights on during the day (like 4-7PM). Once the sun goes down temps usually drop pretty rapidly, and by 8PM the tents are sitting around 84F. By 10PM the tents are 75F and that's where they usually sit from 10PM to 4AM. They might get a bit cooler as the night goes on but once the AC kicks off they'll climb back up a bit.

Just ordered a 10x10 to replace the three 5x5's we run now. Eventually we want to get an AC Terraform 7 and have that as the AC source for the tent. The AC unit we are running now doesn't really allow for ducting and would have to be placed inside the tent to really do it's job. With a 5x5 that just wasn't doable. With the 10x10 it should be and when ever AC Infinity decides to drop the Terraform again we'll have even more room.

As far as temps go I would say you're perfect. If we could dial in our CO2 and feed I think our temps would be a bit more manageable and make things better. But without those, we are loosing some. Here's a picture from our last run with the Trop Cherry. This was in the Fall of 23. Temps were in the mid 70's. This picture is from 39F.
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Not to try and shit on our own grow, but the difference is pretty obvious to us. Thinking the additional heat is playing into it a bit, but we'll find out in a few months. Going to be running the TC exclusively in our 10x10.

Have you considered dropping the lights closer and reducing power to help balance heat?

You'd lose some coverage area perhaps but anything for health of the crop is worth, imo.

 

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But nice, living the dream.

 

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RH we usually try to end at 55 or so. I remember reading Aqua or Moe saying that the enemy of mold isn't RH but air flow. I'd like to think we have pretty decent air flow in the tents. We used to push it down to like 45 at the end of flower and always ended up frying the plants. Gotta level up our growing game before we can get down to that RH lol.

Being able to push the RH down towards the end can bring out more potential.

Used as a stressor.

 

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For the grow…we on day 50F for the Dante’s and 45F for the Trop Cherry. Girls are looking amazing. It’s been cooler too so that’s been helping. Both are starting to bulk up substantially.

TC: Color is obviously coming through at this point. Frost is starting to pack on too. Resin rails are looking fantastic. Getting some slight taccoing on the upper fan leaves. Last few times we've ran it that usually meant we were pushing them just right. Judging from how much more explosive the pistol growth is getting we think we've got them pretty dialed in right now. 850PPFD, 60RH, 1050PPM, 85F.


Dante's Inferno: Welcome to the Jungle we got some funny looking things. Yeah there's some shenanigans going on in here. But there are some monsters lurking among the larf.


Temp: 85F
RH: 60%
CO2: 0
PPFD: 850
PPM: 1050

 

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Have you considered dropping the lights closer and reducing power to help balance heat?

You'd lose some coverage area perhaps but anything for health of the crop is worth, imo.

Yeah we did have them closer, but as you stated we loose some coverage area. Likely should have sacrificed in that way, but we didn't. I wanna say the mid day heat, with the lights off is probably worse than the hour or two they endure with the temps in the high 80's to low 90's with the lights on.

Moving forward we are going to be taking breaks during August/September and January/February since they're the hottest/coldest months.

As far as the stressors go, was told to lighten up on the stressors as we get into late flower, usually less drybacks, lower PPFD etc. Wouldn't dropping RH go against that?

Also with as hot as it is, I'm afraid of the terps getting toasted with the low RH/High heat combo. Least with the higher RH you can really smell the terps.

 

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Yeah we did have them closer, but as you stated we loose some coverage area. Likely should have sacrificed in that way, but we didn't. I wanna say the mid day heat, with the lights off is probably worse than the hour or two they endure with the temps in the high 80's to low 90's with the lights on.

Moving forward we are going to be taking breaks during August/September and January/February since they're the hottest/coldest months.

As far as the stressors go, was told to lighten up on the stressors as we get into late flower, usually less drybacks, lower PPFD etc. Wouldn't dropping RH go against that?

Also with as hot as it is, I'm afraid of the terps getting toasted with the low RH/High heat combo. Least with the higher RH you can really smell the terps.

working on a good reply for ya

 

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Yeah we did have them closer, but as you stated we loose some coverage area.

Likely should have sacrificed in that way, but we didn't.

yea for health of the crop, id rather have that than coverage.

I wanna say the mid day heat, with the lights off is probably worse than the hour or two they endure with the temps in the high 80's to low 90's with the lights on.

Moving forward we are going to be taking breaks during August/September and January/February since they're the hottest/coldest months.

As far as the stressors go, was told to lighten up on the stressors as we get into late flower, usually less drybacks, lower PPFD etc. Wouldn't dropping RH go against that?

well, what are we defining as late flower, on a 9 week cultivar , weeks 6-8 would be late? you wanna "smoothly sail" through and then that last week is when you start bringing in the stressors, after the buds are formed and starting to swell, and then thats when you can drop RH and TEMP

higher temps can bring out genetic expression like the "airy" buds, they form that way as another defense mechanism to deter mold, and also stresses them to possibly stack calyxes and start foxtailing, the exact scientific mechanism for why this happens i can not say yet.

Also with as hot as it is, I'm afraid of the terps getting toasted with the low RH/High heat combo. Least with the higher RH you can really smell the terps.

indeed, any temp above 68F is when certain/terpenes can start "evaporating" off the plants.

the lower RH makes the plants "tigthen" to try and preserve water loss, the lower temps help keep those sweet terps "locked in"

and at the same time, it acts as a "stressor" the plants respond by synthesizing more cannabinoids as its defense mechanism.

when ever you see commercial grows and they have fan leafs that are tacoing but are FROSTED , thats in part, why, the cause and effect.


approaching flower, week 1, defol and lollipop for penetration and redirecting energy to focus on buds and not vegetative growth.
week 2-3 is recovery and budset and then removing any excess vegetation again around day 21 or so, to again, focus on the budsites.

week 4, flower development continues, 0 stressors.

week 5-6 "bulking" phase, and i could bring up vegetative and generative growth but this gets more advanced and complicated.

sorry ran out of time on this post

 

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was trying to see what youre nutrient inputs were, "organics" or salts?

 

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ahha!


the higher heat increases cellular activity, the metabolism, therefore calyxes can stack.

Growth Rate Disruption: High temperatures can cause the plant to grow more quickly than usual.
This rapid growth can lead to abnormal bud formation.

so you gotta slow the metabolism down so the cells dont rapidly grow, whereas you want fat buds to properly form


Foxtailing is characterized by the elongated, spiky appearance of buds, which are often a result of the plant's attempt to deal with stress and produce new growth in an erratic fashion.