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Pointy things - cactus and euphorbia
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Wife is proud of her Thanksgiving one.
This is a random flower that popped up from to much sun. It’s also why leaves go purple.
Pointy plants that remain today.
Today they are all just waiting. I need to help the two little guys in the yellow pot.
This is a random flower that popped up from to much sun. It’s also why leaves go purple.
Pointy plants that remain today.
Today they are all just waiting. I need to help the two little guys in the yellow pot.
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Right up my ally. I had a right nice ebay cactus bussiness, until they decided that Trichocereus cactus was a 'drug' plant. You can still find live Lophophora williamsii (peyote) there. Go figure. Anyway... I still have a few things. I put them out of the garage a couple weeks to early this year and got some frost damage, but they're tough.
So you like monstrose plants? That's all I have left, LOL! So, let me go take some pictures....
OK, got some pictures and dug up the ebay ads I used to post with them.
I hope you enjoy these wierdo's. 1st up, the group photo.
...and from left to right:
Cereus forbesii v. spiraliforme short spine clone spiral cactus, original form
Cereus forbesii v. spiraliforme
“Description: A few branches from the original plant were imported in Europe around 1980 for a very hight price. The original clone was characterized by stong grey stems covered with a dense pruina coating and with short spines (Also known as "short spined clone"), but nowadays almost all the plant on the trade are seed grown hybrid specimens derived from cross pollination with (presumably) Cereus peruvianus, they are usually a darker blue-green colour with longher spines. It is a heavy bloomer.
Synonyms:
Cereus peruvianus forma spirale
Cereus peruvianous tortulosus “ cactus-art.biz
Above is the best web description I can find of the plant I am offering for auction. I personally imported a clone from what I believe is this short spine spiral clone several years ago from S. America, where it originates from. All indications are that it is indeed from the original spiral short spine mother plant first discovered in Brazil. Please note the dense pruina coating of grey and the short spines.
Don't miss this opportunity to own the original. This plant is NOT a hybrid, NOT from seed and it is most likely a true clone from the original plant found in Brazil and described at cactus-art.biz. (please see the picture of the original plant at that site)
You are bidding on the plant pictured above in this auction. It is showing nice new green growth. I will ship bare root, USPS Priority mail. Sorry, no international shipping.
All my cactus are grown outside in Phoenix, AZ and may show insect and/or sunburn damage. Please look at the photos carefully before bidding.
Next up is another 'spiral' that can also stack as a disc or occasionally crest.
Eulychnia castanea forma varispiralis (mostruosa)
“Description: This odd plant is known in cultivation under quite a lot of different names (among them, "spiralis", "varispiralis", "spiraliforme", "mostruosa", "monstrose", "monstrous" ) It is a variable cultivar of which we can distinguish at least four basic growing forms:
1) Columnar monstrous form: Characterized by a lumpy-bumpy monstrous surface, this is the more common form, about 60-75% of the new branch shows this monstrous morphology.
2) Columnar discoidal form: Characterized by green discs placed one on top of another in a heap. Only 20-30% of branches develop the typical discs.
3) Columnar spiral form: Characterized by curly, whirly spiral growth that can be equally dextrorotatory or levorotatory, this form is very appreciated by collectors but comparatively rare (about 5-15% of shots shows this admirable feature)
4) Crested form: Characterized by fan-like sculptural shapes comprising mix of the previously types, this form is very rare and prized.
Remarks: All this form are only growing variant of the same clone, each new branch must show one (or a mix) of the four growing mode and each plant is unique and different.” cactus-art.biz
You are bidding on the plant pictured above in this auction and the plant you see is the plant you will receive. I will ship bare root via USPS Priority mail. Sorry, no international shipping.
This disc shaped plant of Eulychnia castanea forma varispiralis is grafted onto Hylocereus undatus root stock.
All my cactus are grown outside in Phoenix, AZ and may show insect
and/or sunburn damage. Please look at the photos carefully before bidding.
...and the last one I still have is the infamous penis cactus, long form:
Trichocereus bridgesii f. monstrosus clone A Penis cactus
(long)
This is a very large clone A, long form penis cactus.
FYI, There is some well based confusion about the 2 variants of this mutant. Clone A and Clone B, long form and short form. If you got your information from a European website, you read that the Clone A was a short form and Clone B was a long form. If you got your information from an American website, you read that the Clone A is the long form and Clone B is the short form. Confused?
...from the European website, “The Trichocereus bridgesii mostruosa inermis( clone B long type ) is often known by the name "Penis Plant", it is much slower growing than the standard form of the species, but owing to its highly unusual shape, it is sought after by cactus impassioned.” Cactus-art.biz
… from the American website, and since these genetics came from California, I’ll use that naming scheme. “Note on T. bridgesii f. monstrosus cl. A & B – though both of these clones were introduced to cultivation before we were born, we were the ones to designate them clone A & B for simple ease of identification when we began distributing them as such in 1997. We mention this because the majority of the photos on the interenet have them backwards!… So much for the misinformation highway….”
Trichocereus bridgesii f. monstrosus clone A
“Virtually spineless. Smooth blue-green stems with 2–4 indistinct ribs. Occasionally produces yellow spines up to 3″ long. Plants eventually form candelabra like stands. Individual stems can grow to be remarkably phallic and this clone is referred to as the “penis cactus.” The original introduction is unclear, but this plant has been in cultivation since the 1950s.” Sacredsucculants.com
You are bidding on the plant pictured above in this auction and the plant you see is the plant you will receive. I will ship bare root via USPS Priority mail. Sorry, no international shipping.
All my cactus are grown outside in Phoenix, AZ and may show insect and/or sunburn damage. Please look at the photos carefully before bidding.
Thanks for looking and please see my other listings for more rare and
unusual cactus.
...those black spots are from , um, snow....damage!
And from the way back machine, here are some pictures from when I was selling on ebay. If you look closely, in some of the pictures you can see some grafts I was doing.
LOL, penis and titty cactus, side by side.
Some of my Crested San Pedro (trichocereus pachanoi)
So you like monstrose plants? That's all I have left, LOL! So, let me go take some pictures....
OK, got some pictures and dug up the ebay ads I used to post with them.
I hope you enjoy these wierdo's. 1st up, the group photo.
...and from left to right:
Cereus forbesii v. spiraliforme short spine clone spiral cactus, original form
Cereus forbesii v. spiraliforme
“Description: A few branches from the original plant were imported in Europe around 1980 for a very hight price. The original clone was characterized by stong grey stems covered with a dense pruina coating and with short spines (Also known as "short spined clone"), but nowadays almost all the plant on the trade are seed grown hybrid specimens derived from cross pollination with (presumably) Cereus peruvianus, they are usually a darker blue-green colour with longher spines. It is a heavy bloomer.
Synonyms:
Cereus peruvianus forma spirale
Cereus peruvianous tortulosus “ cactus-art.biz
Above is the best web description I can find of the plant I am offering for auction. I personally imported a clone from what I believe is this short spine spiral clone several years ago from S. America, where it originates from. All indications are that it is indeed from the original spiral short spine mother plant first discovered in Brazil. Please note the dense pruina coating of grey and the short spines.
Don't miss this opportunity to own the original. This plant is NOT a hybrid, NOT from seed and it is most likely a true clone from the original plant found in Brazil and described at cactus-art.biz. (please see the picture of the original plant at that site)
You are bidding on the plant pictured above in this auction. It is showing nice new green growth. I will ship bare root, USPS Priority mail. Sorry, no international shipping.
All my cactus are grown outside in Phoenix, AZ and may show insect and/or sunburn damage. Please look at the photos carefully before bidding.
Next up is another 'spiral' that can also stack as a disc or occasionally crest.
Eulychnia castanea forma varispiralis (mostruosa)
“Description: This odd plant is known in cultivation under quite a lot of different names (among them, "spiralis", "varispiralis", "spiraliforme", "mostruosa", "monstrose", "monstrous" ) It is a variable cultivar of which we can distinguish at least four basic growing forms:
1) Columnar monstrous form: Characterized by a lumpy-bumpy monstrous surface, this is the more common form, about 60-75% of the new branch shows this monstrous morphology.
2) Columnar discoidal form: Characterized by green discs placed one on top of another in a heap. Only 20-30% of branches develop the typical discs.
3) Columnar spiral form: Characterized by curly, whirly spiral growth that can be equally dextrorotatory or levorotatory, this form is very appreciated by collectors but comparatively rare (about 5-15% of shots shows this admirable feature)
4) Crested form: Characterized by fan-like sculptural shapes comprising mix of the previously types, this form is very rare and prized.
Remarks: All this form are only growing variant of the same clone, each new branch must show one (or a mix) of the four growing mode and each plant is unique and different.” cactus-art.biz
You are bidding on the plant pictured above in this auction and the plant you see is the plant you will receive. I will ship bare root via USPS Priority mail. Sorry, no international shipping.
This disc shaped plant of Eulychnia castanea forma varispiralis is grafted onto Hylocereus undatus root stock.
All my cactus are grown outside in Phoenix, AZ and may show insect
and/or sunburn damage. Please look at the photos carefully before bidding.
...and the last one I still have is the infamous penis cactus, long form:
Trichocereus bridgesii f. monstrosus clone A Penis cactus
(long)
This is a very large clone A, long form penis cactus.
FYI, There is some well based confusion about the 2 variants of this mutant. Clone A and Clone B, long form and short form. If you got your information from a European website, you read that the Clone A was a short form and Clone B was a long form. If you got your information from an American website, you read that the Clone A is the long form and Clone B is the short form. Confused?
...from the European website, “The Trichocereus bridgesii mostruosa inermis( clone B long type ) is often known by the name "Penis Plant", it is much slower growing than the standard form of the species, but owing to its highly unusual shape, it is sought after by cactus impassioned.” Cactus-art.biz
… from the American website, and since these genetics came from California, I’ll use that naming scheme. “Note on T. bridgesii f. monstrosus cl. A & B – though both of these clones were introduced to cultivation before we were born, we were the ones to designate them clone A & B for simple ease of identification when we began distributing them as such in 1997. We mention this because the majority of the photos on the interenet have them backwards!… So much for the misinformation highway….”
Trichocereus bridgesii f. monstrosus clone A
“Virtually spineless. Smooth blue-green stems with 2–4 indistinct ribs. Occasionally produces yellow spines up to 3″ long. Plants eventually form candelabra like stands. Individual stems can grow to be remarkably phallic and this clone is referred to as the “penis cactus.” The original introduction is unclear, but this plant has been in cultivation since the 1950s.” Sacredsucculants.com
You are bidding on the plant pictured above in this auction and the plant you see is the plant you will receive. I will ship bare root via USPS Priority mail. Sorry, no international shipping.
All my cactus are grown outside in Phoenix, AZ and may show insect and/or sunburn damage. Please look at the photos carefully before bidding.
Thanks for looking and please see my other listings for more rare and
unusual cactus.
...those black spots are from , um, snow....damage!
And from the way back machine, here are some pictures from when I was selling on ebay. If you look closely, in some of the pictures you can see some grafts I was doing.
LOL, penis and titty cactus, side by side. Some of my Crested San Pedro (trichocereus pachanoi)
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Amazing grows guys. My wife loves cactus but over waters everything. I save what I can.
To get cactus that big and thick takes years I hear. Some don’t flower for years. But don’t these look great!
No peyote?
To get cactus that big and thick takes years I hear. Some don’t flower for years. But don’t these look great!
No peyote?
THose have an amazing likeness to Lophophora williamsiiAmazing grows guys. My wife loves cactus but over waters everything. I save what I can.
To get cactus that big and thick takes years I hear. Some don’t flower for years. But don’t these look great!
No peyote?
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Love the flower(s).
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Google pic, hope it’s right.THose have an amazing likeness to Lophophora williamsii
Love the flower(s).
LOL, I thought they were yours. Yes, those are live and fat Peyote.
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some lophophora williamsi, trichocereus peruvianus and trichocereus bolivianus. all started from seed, all about a year and half old. the trichs need to be separated into their own pots to really take off (and be happier with me).
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I wish...well maybe not...I hear it’s something you don’t try on your own. But if I had that much...,party time bitches!
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Man you have some great stuff. Wasted 30 years on computers when I could have learned this.
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surprisingly, they're not difficult to grow. germinating the seeds can be hit or miss, depending on the vendor you buy from. i have two other small containers with 30+ yearlings in em that need to be separated and up-potted as well. a couple of different LW varieties (viesca and los coloradas).Man you have some great stuff. Wasted 30 years on computers when I could have learned this.
the columnar cacti are interesting... they're not quite like normal cacti that don't like a ton of water. during the hot summer months you can keep them damn near wet all the time and they'll grow two to four feet a year if they have the root space. originally they come from a tropical environment, so they're used to organic soil compositions with higher volumes of moisture.
the loph's, though, they grow in cracks in limestone and are used to going years without water, then getting flooded. that's why i have the ones pictured in a nearly all rock substrate with some sand to boost moisture retention slightly.
tbh, the only reason i'm even growing them is more so out of an act of preservation of the species since LW are becoming increasingly more endangered naturally. I'll never harvest them for their mescaline content -- that's what the peruvian and bolivian torches are for. fast growing columns are much more sustainable as teaching tools vs buttons.
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these are my "collection" lol. only 2...been looking for some peyote to grow as well, buts been a pain finding. these 2 I traded seeds for while we lived in hawaii, had them shipped to me, and then shipped them back to myself when we moved back - so definitely been thru the ringer.
I should have written down the names - but Im wanting to say one was a san pedro and the other is a Montrose san pedro variegated type.
I should have written down the names - but Im wanting to say one was a san pedro and the other is a Montrose san pedro variegated type.
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absolutely nucking futs!
You're almost spot on with your names. The tall thin ones are trichocereus pachanoi (aka: San Pedro) and the lumpy one is the same, monstrose or crested. So Trichocereus pachanoi f. monstrose cristata or Crested San Pedro. Both will have mescaline in them. Neither are varigated.
...and is that lettuce, kale and brocolli along the fence? YUM!!!
NICE work!
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Back in 1995, when I was young and not broken down, I bought a 10" reflector telescope with two small children to hold it steady!
They weren't too good at polar alignment so I later replaced the two small children with a tripod and equatorial wedge.
I had to sell this scope about 5 or 6 years ago because my back is too messed up to pick it up much less mount it on the tripod/wedge.
It was just sitting around. Still have the kids though, but they are bigger now!
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considering buying one like this. kids are finally old enough to appreciate that kind of thing, and creating those kind of core memories is really important to their development.
planning on doing just that with a few of the buttons. never grafted anything before, so a bit nervous about the scion not taking but only way to learn is by doing, ya know!
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Yeah im curious to see hiw that goes for you also… i have never done it. Hell i have a hundred seeds here of each i still haven’t started
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any trusted places to get them?
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I've been curious about this too. Most places I found searching (not a lot of effort put into this search), revealed a lot in Europe, but not the US.
Ridiculous that they are restricted so. I hope that loosens up as acceptance of cannabis and even psilocybin progresses.
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Lemme dig up the receipts and I'll let y'all know where I sourced em.
Edit: https://precious-cactus.com/product-category/lophophora-seeds/a-lophophora-williamsii-seeds/ is where I sourced my viesca and los coloradas seeds
For the trichocereus I got those from strictly medical seeds. They're actually located down in your neck of the woods, so shipping will be pretty quick
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