Grump's Guzzlers Grow 🌱

* 3 Composition/information on ingredients · Chemical characterization: Mixtures Fish Emulsion, Liquid Humate, Liquid Sea Kelp, Unsulfured Blackstrap Molasses · Description: Mixture of the substances listed below with nonhazardous additions.
Based on this not a good fit for this specific use. It’s only feeding the bacteria we don’t need and not feeding bacillus
 
What’s in it? No info on the listing. Hmmm

* 3 Composition/information on ingredients · Chemical characterization: Mixtures Fish Emulsion, Liquid Humate, Liquid Sea Kelp, Unsulfured Blackstrap Molasses · Description: Mixture of the substances listed below with nonhazardous additions.

Based on this not a good fit for this specific use. It’s only feeding the bacteria we don’t need and not feeding bacillus

that stuff popped up on my radar a couple months ago and i forgot it till now. its made by the same company as orca and great white. been meaning to ask if anybody here had used it..

i'm kinda surprised more places aren't selling a product aimed at this, it seems like it would be good to use.
 
that stuff popped up on my radar a couple months ago and i forgot it till now. its made by the same company as orca and great white. been meaning to ask if anybody here had used it..

i'm kinda surprised more places aren't selling a product aimed at this, it seems like it would be good to use.
Bacteria are specialized. They evolved to take advantage of certain environments and food sources. If they all lived in and ate the same stuff we would just have one massive colony world wide. Whatever could compete the best.

The bottle you mentioned has the stuff needed to attract compost kinda bacteria. They take organics and break them down. Sometimes doing that results in nutrients available for plants to take up in the right ionic form.

In hydro running ionic salts like gh there is no need for those bacteria. Keep them in the organic soil grows. Breakdown of organic material only hurts us in hydro. Ph swings for example.

There is nothing wrong with the product it is just being misused if running chelated salt nutes in hydro.
 
Bacteria are specialized. They evolved to take advantage of certain environments and food sources. If they all lived in and ate the same stuff we would just have one massive colony world wide. Whatever could compete the best.

The bottle you mentioned has the stuff needed to attract compost kinda bacteria. They take organics and break them down. Sometimes doing that results in nutrients available for plants to take up in the right ionic form.

In hydro running ionic salts like gh there is no need for those bacteria. Keep them in the organic soil grows. Breakdown of organic material only hurts us in hydro. Ph swings for example.

There is nothing wrong with the product it is just being misused if running chelated salt nutes in hydro.

why do that food all come in separate bottles? it's not the bacteria right? like we have to establish the correct bacteria and then use the agar to feed it?, am i understanding that correct?

seems pricy but if done properly you would never have to buy a bennie ever again... kinda like having a good sourdough starter for bread.
 
why do that food all come in separate bottles? it's not the bacteria right? like we have to establish the correct bacteria and then use the agar to feed it?, am i understanding that correct?

seems pricy but if done properly you would never have to buy a bennie ever again... kinda like having a good sourdough starter for bread.
You only need to or should feed the colony if you are trying to keep the colony with no plants.

It is not common practice to do it this way. You want the plants to grow the right size colony and maintain it. That’s where the symbiosis comes from.

Hopefully I’m making sense
 
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