Grump's Gelonade X Blueberry Cupcake Grow 🌱

[Stoneyluv]

They're taking off now and I'm force-feeding at this point. I've never gone this high of ppm.
1250 FAFO

do you remember how much you started out at from the time you put them in the system?

your roots are milk white!! are you still using those free sample nutes?

 

[GrumpAzz]

do you remember how much you started out at from the time you put them in the system?

Here are my batch notes for the veg cycle. They're a bit chaotic but there's a method somewhere in the madness.

That change on the 5th wasn't a full change. I mixed a new top-off batch and replaced just under half of the lowers.

You can see the bumps. Started at 100-150, to 300, 560, 750 and ended with 980 being topped off with 1320. Sometimes I mix a hot batch and dilute it so that it slowly gets more ppm as they drink and it gets topped off. I also add 15ml or so of Orca and Fulvic every full res change.

They've sucked in 6 gallons in the last 3 days. Half gallon per day per plant.

your roots are milk white!! are you still using those free sample nutes?

Yeah man I'm impressed so far. There's a pretty nasty brown film on everything in the top-off res so the real test will be the nuggets. Like I said above, I'll have enough to do 3 grows to really decide whether or not I like it enough to pay for it. I've been using their balance for the last couple changeouts and it has really kept a solid pH. Easier than premixing the Agsil beforehand as well.

 

[GrumpAzz]

Just a few days into flower now but they've shown some incredible growth already putting on an inch a day. They drank 2.5 gallons since last night. Doing their thang!

Don't mind the heavy red lighting
99r:99w:39b spectrum


Tiniest little bit of tip burn on one of the plants. I'm not concerned just yet. All the others are looking beautiful.

 

[Bandit420]

 

[GrumpAzz]

Res change tonight. There was only 5 gallons left so I figured I'd change it on a night that's not a work-night. They drank 16 gallons in the first 7 days of 12/12. Ppms in the plant sites outran the top-off ppms leading me to believe the last mix was too hot, so i dropped it this time.

Still getting really light colored new growth so I doubled the calmag intake hoping for an N boost. They need the extra calmag now anyway.
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The light colored new growth


There are a whopping 2 whole leaves that have this going on. Same plant. Windiest corner. I messed with that a bit.


Tent: 84°/50% rh
Leaf temp: 75-77°
Water temp: 72°
Plants: 1090/5.7
Top-off: 740/5.9

1480 at the plants before the change. I only emptied the control res completely which left a gallon or so at each plant. Dropped 1050 down and the final mix ended there at 1090. I expect that to climb as it circulates for a day or two. I'll adjust the pH up to 6.0 if it doesn't do that on it's own by then.

I added the rest of my RO to the top-off to make this batch last as long as possible. Next changeout, I'll likely just mix a slightly hotter batch and not do a full change. Just let it slowly rise over time.

The most vigorous plant has grown an inch per day reaching 16" now. I pulled the Velcro tie-downs because they are starting to grow together. Lettin' em run.

Thinking if dropping the rH to 45%. Up that VPD a bit. Hammer down!

I pulled a stem rub from 2 of them. I've got 2 that are runty and bushy and 2 that are looking pretty damn good. I rubbed 1 of each structure. Bushy runts smelled of orange citrus. The other was harder to pin down. Maybe Lime with a spicy/herbal overtone.

 

[Rootsruler]

That is some healthy ass foliage. Go My Dude! Go! My only concern is the leaf/air temp differential. 9° is a big expanse but maybe not so much in the water world. Soilless Boy throwing out his 2¢.

Might be hitting you up for a day or two at your resort. Cheap but decent lodging recs are appreciated.

BTW we don't have to do the obligatory snap of us at your resort if you want to stay on the DL! I actually prefer anonymity but I'm good with showing the crew you in beast mode! PM is fine also!

 

[GrumpAzz]

Might be hitting you up for a day or two at your resort. Cheap but decent lodging recs are appreciated.

Unless you're talking about my basement, I think you have me confused with someone else...

It's an honor to be confused with @Cool_Beans, though.

 

[GrumpAzz]

Lower resevoirs seem to have settled at 1140/6.0

That is some healthy ass foliage. Go My Dude! Go! My only concern is the leaf/air temp differential. 9° is a big expanse but maybe not so much in the water world.

The light is 4 feet above the plants and the cool air is coming in from the bottom.

They're really starting to take off so I think the high respiration plays a pretty big role in the high differential.

Just spitballing. Last few runs had a box fan above the light that kept the differential at -1 or -2. I'll be trying to implement that again with my next grows.

 

[steamroller]

What is your water temp?

 

[GrumpAzz]

What is your water temp?

72

 

[Rootsruler]

Unless you're talking about my basement, I think you have me confused with someone else...

It's an honor to be confused with @Cool_Beans, though.

DAMN! I need to take it easy on the last harvest!

 

[Stoneyluv]

DAMN! I need to take it easy on the last harvest!

or maybe just not enough!!!

 

[GrumpAzz]

They're really growing now.. 4 inches in two days and they've already drank 10 gallons of the new mix. Pretty impressive bushes. I'm gonna have to do a pretty serious defoliation when the stretch is through. Little gals on the left are miniature jungles.

 

[midwestcannaman]

They're really growing now.. 4 inches in two days and they've already drank 10 gallons of the new mix. Pretty impressive bushes. I'm gonna have to do a pretty serious defoliation when the stretch is through. Little gals on the left are miniature jungles.View attachment 87497View attachment 87498

Them bitches just grabbed third!

 

[Rootsruler]

Whoa......

 

[GrumpAzz]

Whoa......

You're welcome to shack up for a few days, if you're still interested

 

[GrumpAzz]

And so it begins


Still growing 2 inches a day and the lot is drinking almost 5 gallons a day. Top-off was under 5 gallons so I just filled it up to 25 with RO. Ppms sitting at 250 and 1170 down below.

Still chugging along

 

[GrumpAzz]

Made a new batch of nutes tonight on the 13th day of 12/12. Just the top-off, not a full change-out. Tallest 2 plants are 26 inches tall and the rootballs are getting massive. One of the taller 2 has some monster leaves 12 inches down from the top. No pictures tonight because my daughter was "helping".

Ended with 50 gallons of 1100/5.8 that I expect to rise a bit in pH overnight. Lowers dropped to 1140 after adding just RO a couple nights ago. 5+ gallons a day goes fast. This batch should last into the end of stretch which will work out just right. I'm not looking for any silica in the Bud Builder stage so it'll be time for a changeout anyway.

 

[GrumpAzz]

Growth is slowing back to an inch per day. Still drinking more than 5 gallons a day also.

Quite the Jungle in there. I'm guessing they'll stop growing before a full 3 weeks in, so a butchering will be happening soon. Tonight will be a full 2 weeks of 12/12.


Ppms have been climbing fast so I replaced some water with RO. 960 in the top-off. 1100 or so in the lowers. It's still settling.

 

[smoke]

so a butchering will be happening soon. Tonight will be a full 2 weeks of 12/12.

Im of the opinion that during the 21 day stretch period leave the plant alone

 

[stonemason]

Im of the opinion that during the 21 day stretch period leave the plant alone

Ya I defoiliat week 1 and 3 of flower.

 

[Stoneyluv]

the only reason i defol is to lower my rh and raise the vpd in flower. if i could keep my environment numbers where i wanted i would never take leaves.

 

[GrumpAzz]

Im of the opinion that during the 21 day stretch period leave the plant alone

I won't take anything until there's no more upward growth.

 

[steamroller]

I don't go schwazze crazy but I pull leaves whenever I think they are blocking good light to other areas or I just want the leaf gone.
Once a branch has leaves on it the main fan under the branch goes for me.

 

[GrumpAzz]

I don't go schwazze crazy but I pull leaves whenever I think they are blocking good light to other areas or I just want the leaf gone.
Once a branch has leaves on it the main fan under the branch goes for me.

These will be getting stripped. I wouldn't say a full schwazze but I'll be removing a lot of branches and undergrowth.

 

[Stoneyluv]

but I'll be removing a lot of branches and undergrowth.

yeah that sucker growth has got to go, let her focus all the energy where you want it. shave those legs!!

 

[SiamSam]

yeah that sucker growth has got to go, let her focus all the energy where you want it. shave those legs!!

Burma Shave for that smooth glide.....

 

[stonemason]

These will be getting stripped. I wouldn't say a full schwazze but I'll be removing a lot of branches and undergrowth.

I like leaving the super young leaves at the bottom until I flip them 1 or 2 per branch they get super dark and big if everything is jazzing. Then I like swazzing them right before flip and again at week 3.they think something is eating them and they act accordingly.

 

[Rootsruler]

I used to defoliate a couple times before flip but I've found that it is unnecessary and really didn't do much as far as added growth. What I did find is that when I defoliate the same day I flip the light schedule I tend to see less stretch and faster flowering.

 

[GrumpAzz]

Gonna go in swinging on these girls tomorrow night. HEAVY defo!


My heater slipped and roasted one of those front colas on the left. My exhaust is maxed to keep up with the humidity so the heater runs nearly nonstop. I've even added one outside blowing right into the filter box. Humidity will fall after the trimming so all should balance out.

Should I top it when I trim..? Take off the damage? If it wasn't the top of a main cola I wouldn't be so worried about it..

It's looking like I'll have PLENTY of buds so I'll probably just let her ride.