Grump's Gelonade X Blueberry Cupcake Grow 🌱

[steamroller]

Man they look good dude.
How much longer you going to veg?

 

[GrumpAzz]

Man they look good dude.
How much longer you going to veg?

I'm seeing preflowers on one of them so, soon. I've also got one that's been sorta weird from the get-go. Runty with some weird leaves here and there.

I think I'll go at least one more week.

I also think that I'm going to remove one of the colas on each end of each plant leaving me with 6 on each. We'll see though.

I just maxed out the light this morning.

 

[SiamSam]

The question should be how did I (Grump) forget that whole conversation in amongst the plants. I advised always to pack gum because...Paging Dr Memory. IDK why kids called me spaceman?

 

[Zen_seeker]

Everyone is held down and ready to flatten out.
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Last time I tied down with plant ties. Basically bread ties. I'm giving these velcro strips a go and, so far, I really like 'em.

https://www.amazon.com/VELCRO-Brand-VEL-30089-AMS-Garden-Support/dp/B08D6PW6ML/ref=mp_s_a_1_13

Nice idea with the Velcro. IT labs usually have a roll of black Velcro straps for tying down or bundling cables.

I couldn’t find mine but I have the bad habit of giving stuff away. Keep forgetting I don’t get free stuff to replace things anymore.

 

[Zen_seeker]

Adjusted the ties. I'll likely have to do that again tonight since 3 of them got held down by the skinny stalk after the first node.
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I'm enjoying a doob on the front porch, listening to the geese fly over. It's so damn beautiful out.
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Nope. I need trees. Lots more trees.

Reminds me of a Saskatchewan joke… Dog ran away…took 5 days.

 

[GrumpAzz]

Nice idea with the Velcro. IT labs usually have a roll of black Velcro straps for tying down or bundling cables.

This plant specific Velcro doesn't have much holding power which makes it great for gently unsticking it from the delicate plants.

I couldn’t find mine but I have the bad habit of giving stuff away. Keep forgetting I don’t get free stuff to replace things anymore.

I miss having a job that didn't know they were keeping my hobbies at home supplied. When I left, I cleaned out the truck sideboxes and grabbed plenty of zip-ties, tape, breakers, screws and nuts and bolts to hold me down for a few years.

My new job takes care of me well enough that I feel guilty for even considering swiping a box of latex gloves out of the case in the supply room.

Nope. I need trees. Lots more trees.

Reminds me of a Saskatchewan joke… Dog ran away…took 5 days.

Haha for sure. I've got a nice belt of cedars and mulberries around half of our plot. It does really well blocking the north winds.

Yeah that's an old joke around here too. Doesn't get much flatter than just west of here. I've got some hills to the north and a nice open view to the creek you see in that picture.

There's also a little something special about long open views. The expanse of it all. Reminds you of how small we really are.

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First snow of the year.

 

[Zen_seeker]

This plant specific Velcro doesn't have much holding power which makes it great for gently unsticking it from the delicate plants.

If I see it at my grow shop one day I’ll pick it up.

I miss having a job that didn't know they were keeping my hobbies at home supplied. When I left, I cleaned out the truck sideboxes and grabbed plenty of zip-ties, tape, breakers, screws and nuts and bolts to hold me down for a few years.

I did that when I left electrical estimating. Lasted years. Rawl plugs, screws, other fasteners. Never lasts though.

My new job takes care of me well enough that I feel guilty for even considering swiping a box of latex gloves out of the case in the supply room.

Not as handy for most of my hobbies but family working at a hospital, that tosses out 75% of new but opened items, has been a great help to growing. Gloves, H2O2, ISO, wipes and miscellaneous things like tape and test tubes all come in handy.

Haha for sure. I've got a nice belt of cedars and mulberries around half of our plot. It does really well blocking the north winds.

I used to say when I move up north it will be in a forest and on water. With all the flooding the last decade or so I’m just going to stick with a forest now.

Yeah that's an old joke around here too. Doesn't get much flatter than just west of here. I've got some hills to the north and a nice open view to the creek you see in that picture.

As long as there’s something to block the horizon. I don’t get lonely up north on my own for a while. But an endless or far off horizon would make it much harder. Keeps the wildlife away too. For some reason that would make me feel far more alone.

There's also a little something special about long open views. The expanse of it all. Reminds you of how small we really are.

Exactly. But for me it’s a nice thing to visit…

First snow of the year.
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Beautiful looking. Peaceful. But more importantly it’s what you like.

 

[GrumpAzz]

If I see it at my grow shop one day I’ll pick it up.


I did that when I left electrical estimating. Lasted years. Rawl plugs, screws, other fasteners. Never lasts though.


Not as handy for most of my hobbies but family working at a hospital, that tosses out 75% of new but opened items, has been a great help to growing. Gloves, H2O2, ISO, wipes and miscellaneous things like tape and test tubes all come in handy.


I used to say when I move up north it will be in a forest and on water. With all the flooding the last decade or so I’m just going to stick with a forest now.


As long as there’s something to block the horizon. I don’t get lonely up north on my own for a while. But an endless or far off horizon would make it much harder. Keeps the wildlife away too. For some reason that would make me feel far more alone.


Exactly. But for me it’s a nice thing to visit…


Beautiful looking. Peaceful. But more importantly it’s what you like.

It's about liking what you got and making the best out of wherever you are. I love the Pacific Northwest. The trees out there really are something to behold. Thankfully, I've got a friend living up there that I get to visit.

I spent a lot of time in the Colorado Rockies. The big mountains and peaks all around were another kind of beautiful.

Here, we have a lot of big rolling hills of prairie grass spotted with old cottonwoods and windmills. Beautiful sunsets on a low horizon.

Life is what you make it.

 

[GrumpAzz]

Sometimes you gotta make 'em cry

 

[Bandit420]

Sometimes you gotta make 'em cry
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And sometimes when there's immobile sugars in the plant and you cut them, you make them bleed



If you ever see this, the brix levels in the plant are like 2-3x higher than normal cannabis and very good chance the purps and haze traits are up front and dominant in the strain

 

[Observer]

Trimmed off all the lowers. I can see the second node on all the tops so I've got all my colas. I'll top them too when I can accurately get to them all.

Training is going well.
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They were still looking droopy after lowering the light's intensity, so I busted out my lux meter and they were only getting 8k lux. I feel like we aimed for 12k a few grows ago, so I cranked the light to 35r:70w:70b.

Mhmm bondage.

 

[GrumpAzz]

Everybody's shaping up and looking good. I've got one bushy runt but she's trying hard.

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[Stoneyluv]

Everybody's shaping up and looking good. I've got one bushy runt but she's trying hard.

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fuckin textbook Grump!

 

[GrumpAzz]

fuckin textbook Grump!

Thinking about a hard flip on Saturday. That'd mark the sixth week. I just want some nuggets I'M SO READY

 

[GrumpAzz]

Lights off at 10:30pm last night and we'll be starting 12/12 tonight at 6pm on the first day of week 7. Over the last couple of days I've transitioned to CLW's recommended flower spectrum without cutting hours in the day. It's currently at 99r:99w:39b 48" above the plants. They suggest 48" for veg and 36" for flower so, as they stretch, I'll raise the light when the need arises.

They'll get a full resevoir change this evening moving to bloom ratios. They've taken the high EC feed well so I'll be comfortable hitting them with 2+ EC. I've been slowly bumping it up over the last week or so and we're sitting at 1080 this morning being top-fed with a solution of 1350ppm. That allowed for a slow rise daily as they drink and the resevoir gets replenished.

This resevoir change will include vacuuming out the bottoms of the buckets, the water that's below the return line. It amounts to a little over a gallon per plant site. I'm not worried about my bennies. Each plant site contains a colonized brick of filter media. They all have a nice fuzz to them so I'm confident that, in removing all the water, I won't be destroying my benny colonies.

I've also started lowering the humidity to bump up the VPD. Average leaf temps are around 76 with the tent's temp set to 84. They've had 50% humidity over the last week, 55% the week before. I'll likely drop it to 45% when the lights come back on this evening.

Everyone seems happy and healthy. Two are pretty bushy and one of them seems like a runt. Aside from that, I'm very pleased with the mainlines I achieved this round. 6 colas per plant will give me 24 total. I'm excited for the stretch. I'm ready for some bushes bros.

 

[GrumpAzz]

Officially flipped today on the 1st day of the 7th week.

I gave them a rez change to bloom nutes and left em alone otherwise. I mixed a batch of 1370ppm/6.0 pH for the top-off and diluted that down to 1250ish for the plants. It ended a little higher than planned but I ran out of RO to dilute. If they look like they don't like it, I can dilute it down further, later. They looked a little light colored on the new growth so I hit them with a little extra CaMg, hoping that'll add a bit more nitrogen. There's 20 gallons left in the top-off after the changeout so I'll do another rez change when they drink all that. They're still not drinking too heavy yet, so I expect that to happen in 2 weeks or so.

The tallest plants are at 9 inches and I've got at least 4 feet worth of room for the stretch. BRING IT ON
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I only used 1250ml of Grow nutes and 450ml of CaMg throughout Veg with 5 rez changes. That amounts to 3 grows worth of nutes in the that Athena free trial I landed.

 

[Rootsruler]

It is DUMPING in Vermont!

What's the snow conditions out your way?

 

[GrumpAzz]

It is DUMPING in Vermont!

What's the snow conditions out your way?

We had a few inches last week. Maybe 5-7. It rained over an inch the day before it snowed, though. That froze and then got covered. Roads were terrible.

 

[Stoneyluv]

lookin like a rock star!!!!

 

[GrumpAzz]

lookin like a rock star!!!!

They're taking off now and I'm force-feeding at this point. I've never gone this high of ppm.
1250 FAFO

 

[Stoneyluv]

They're taking off now and I'm force-feeding at this point. I've never gone this high of ppm.
1250 FAFO

do you remember how much you started out at from the time you put them in the system?

your roots are milk white!! are you still using those free sample nutes?

 

[GrumpAzz]

do you remember how much you started out at from the time you put them in the system?

Here are my batch notes for the veg cycle. They're a bit chaotic but there's a method somewhere in the madness.

That change on the 5th wasn't a full change. I mixed a new top-off batch and replaced just under half of the lowers.

You can see the bumps. Started at 100-150, to 300, 560, 750 and ended with 980 being topped off with 1320. Sometimes I mix a hot batch and dilute it so that it slowly gets more ppm as they drink and it gets topped off. I also add 15ml or so of Orca and Fulvic every full res change.

They've sucked in 6 gallons in the last 3 days. Half gallon per day per plant.

your roots are milk white!! are you still using those free sample nutes?

Yeah man I'm impressed so far. There's a pretty nasty brown film on everything in the top-off res so the real test will be the nuggets. Like I said above, I'll have enough to do 3 grows to really decide whether or not I like it enough to pay for it. I've been using their balance for the last couple changeouts and it has really kept a solid pH. Easier than premixing the Agsil beforehand as well.

 

[GrumpAzz]

Just a few days into flower now but they've shown some incredible growth already putting on an inch a day. They drank 2.5 gallons since last night. Doing their thang!

Don't mind the heavy red lighting
99r:99w:39b spectrum


Tiniest little bit of tip burn on one of the plants. I'm not concerned just yet. All the others are looking beautiful.

 

[Bandit420]

 

[GrumpAzz]

Res change tonight. There was only 5 gallons left so I figured I'd change it on a night that's not a work-night. They drank 16 gallons in the first 7 days of 12/12. Ppms in the plant sites outran the top-off ppms leading me to believe the last mix was too hot, so i dropped it this time.

Still getting really light colored new growth so I doubled the calmag intake hoping for an N boost. They need the extra calmag now anyway.
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The light colored new growth


There are a whopping 2 whole leaves that have this going on. Same plant. Windiest corner. I messed with that a bit.


Tent: 84°/50% rh
Leaf temp: 75-77°
Water temp: 72°
Plants: 1090/5.7
Top-off: 740/5.9

1480 at the plants before the change. I only emptied the control res completely which left a gallon or so at each plant. Dropped 1050 down and the final mix ended there at 1090. I expect that to climb as it circulates for a day or two. I'll adjust the pH up to 6.0 if it doesn't do that on it's own by then.

I added the rest of my RO to the top-off to make this batch last as long as possible. Next changeout, I'll likely just mix a slightly hotter batch and not do a full change. Just let it slowly rise over time.

The most vigorous plant has grown an inch per day reaching 16" now. I pulled the Velcro tie-downs because they are starting to grow together. Lettin' em run.

Thinking if dropping the rH to 45%. Up that VPD a bit. Hammer down!

I pulled a stem rub from 2 of them. I've got 2 that are runty and bushy and 2 that are looking pretty damn good. I rubbed 1 of each structure. Bushy runts smelled of orange citrus. The other was harder to pin down. Maybe Lime with a spicy/herbal overtone.

 

[Rootsruler]

That is some healthy ass foliage. Go My Dude! Go! My only concern is the leaf/air temp differential. 9° is a big expanse but maybe not so much in the water world. Soilless Boy throwing out his 2¢.

Might be hitting you up for a day or two at your resort. Cheap but decent lodging recs are appreciated.

BTW we don't have to do the obligatory snap of us at your resort if you want to stay on the DL! I actually prefer anonymity but I'm good with showing the crew you in beast mode! PM is fine also!

 

[GrumpAzz]

Might be hitting you up for a day or two at your resort. Cheap but decent lodging recs are appreciated.

Unless you're talking about my basement, I think you have me confused with someone else...

It's an honor to be confused with @Cool_Beans, though.

 

[GrumpAzz]

Lower resevoirs seem to have settled at 1140/6.0

That is some healthy ass foliage. Go My Dude! Go! My only concern is the leaf/air temp differential. 9° is a big expanse but maybe not so much in the water world.

The light is 4 feet above the plants and the cool air is coming in from the bottom.

They're really starting to take off so I think the high respiration plays a pretty big role in the high differential.

Just spitballing. Last few runs had a box fan above the light that kept the differential at -1 or -2. I'll be trying to implement that again with my next grows.

 

[steamroller]

What is your water temp?

 

[GrumpAzz]

What is your water temp?

72

 

[Rootsruler]

Unless you're talking about my basement, I think you have me confused with someone else...

It's an honor to be confused with @Cool_Beans, though.

DAMN! I need to take it easy on the last harvest!

 

[Stoneyluv]

DAMN! I need to take it easy on the last harvest!

or maybe just not enough!!!

 

[GrumpAzz]

They're really growing now.. 4 inches in two days and they've already drank 10 gallons of the new mix. Pretty impressive bushes. I'm gonna have to do a pretty serious defoliation when the stretch is through. Little gals on the left are miniature jungles.

 

[midwestcannaman]

They're really growing now.. 4 inches in two days and they've already drank 10 gallons of the new mix. Pretty impressive bushes. I'm gonna have to do a pretty serious defoliation when the stretch is through. Little gals on the left are miniature jungles.View attachment 87497View attachment 87498

Them bitches just grabbed third!

 

[Rootsruler]

Whoa......

 

[GrumpAzz]

Whoa......

You're welcome to shack up for a few days, if you're still interested

 

[GrumpAzz]

And so it begins


Still growing 2 inches a day and the lot is drinking almost 5 gallons a day. Top-off was under 5 gallons so I just filled it up to 25 with RO. Ppms sitting at 250 and 1170 down below.

Still chugging along

 

[GrumpAzz]

Made a new batch of nutes tonight on the 13th day of 12/12. Just the top-off, not a full change-out. Tallest 2 plants are 26 inches tall and the rootballs are getting massive. One of the taller 2 has some monster leaves 12 inches down from the top. No pictures tonight because my daughter was "helping".

Ended with 50 gallons of 1100/5.8 that I expect to rise a bit in pH overnight. Lowers dropped to 1140 after adding just RO a couple nights ago. 5+ gallons a day goes fast. This batch should last into the end of stretch which will work out just right. I'm not looking for any silica in the Bud Builder stage so it'll be time for a changeout anyway.

 

[GrumpAzz]

Growth is slowing back to an inch per day. Still drinking more than 5 gallons a day also.

Quite the Jungle in there. I'm guessing they'll stop growing before a full 3 weeks in, so a butchering will be happening soon. Tonight will be a full 2 weeks of 12/12.


Ppms have been climbing fast so I replaced some water with RO. 960 in the top-off. 1100 or so in the lowers. It's still settling.

 

[smoke]

so a butchering will be happening soon. Tonight will be a full 2 weeks of 12/12.

Im of the opinion that during the 21 day stretch period leave the plant alone