the cheese and white afghan grow

[budsofmadison]

cheese photo's x 3 ganja farmer seeds
white afghan photo's x 3 ganja farmer seeds
using reused promix organic premium moisture control "the walmart stuff"
gaia green all purpose and power bloom
greenleaf nutrients kelp extract
bone meal
germination week

 

[budsofmadison]

germination week continued

 

[budsofmadison]

week 1

 

[budsofmadison]

beginning of week 2

 

[MDK]

I like the compostable cardboard "tubing" to help hold the seedlings up, heck of alot better than the wire glob I got made up for mine

 

[budsofmadison]

I like the compostable cardboard "tubing" to help hold the seedlings up, heck of alot better than the wire glob I got made up for mine

toilet paper rolls

 

[MDK]

Guacamole, avocado spread

I was trying to be fancy lol

 

[budsofmadison]

last day of week 2 from seed
the cheese

 

[budsofmadison]

white Afghan

 

[budsofmadison]

Guacamole, avocado spread

I was trying to be fancy lol

last day of week 2 from seed
the cheese
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white Afghan
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6 days later and the compostable cardboard tubes have composted lol

 

[budsofmadison]

i been using 3 gallon fabric pots i do have some 5 gallon fabric pots , i am wondering if there would be any advantage to using a 5 gallon pot over a 3 would the plant yield more by just being in the 5 then the 3

 

[Aqua Man]

i been using 3 gallon fabric pots i do have some 5 gallon fabric pots , i am wondering if there would be any advantage to using a 5 gallon pot over a 3 would the plant yield more by just being in the 5 then the 3

It all depends in the media, organic or synthetic nutrients and watering ability… the better gas exchange the faster growth…. Imo a 1 gal coco fabric will outperform a 3 or 5 gal of the same but when i did that i had to water 14x a day at peak… albeit only 250ml at a time.

If organic then the larger pot size is a benefit since nutrients need to be broken down and are not nearly as available and break down over time.

There are a lot of variables to this. Have you read my watering thread or high fertigation coco?

 

[budsofmadison]

It all depends in the media, organic or synthetic nutrients and watering ability… the better gas exchange the faster growth…. Imo a 1 gal coco fabric will outperform a 3 or 5 gal of the same but when i did that i had to water 14x a day at peak… albeit only 250ml at a time.

If organic then the larger pot size is a benefit since nutrients need to be broken down and are not nearly as available and break down over time.

There are a lot of variables to this. Have you read my watering thread or high fertigation coco?

yea i have read it a few times

 

[Aqua Man]

yea i have read it a few times

Yeah there is no simple answer of pot size or media… it always depends on all the other factors

 

[budsofmadison]

for like the last year and half i been using this wal mart pro mix premium moisture control that has something in it that holds on to water like a diaper , after a few grows i finally got it where i have to water 3/4 a gallon every 3 or 4 days in a 3 gallon fabric pot but you can not saturate this stuff if u do u will water once every 2 weeks lol

 

[Aqua Man]

for like the last year and half i been using this wal mart pro mix premium moisture control that has something in it that holds on to water like a diaper , after a few grows i finally got it where i have to water 3/4 a gallon every 3 or 4 days in a 3 gallon fabric pot but you can not saturate this stuff if u do u will water once every 2 weeks lol

Pro mix HP is what you want… ideally you want to water every 2 days in your type of grow… you adjust the soil and pot size to do so. And you should be able to saturate it at watering or its to dense or to large of a container

 

[budsofmadison]

Pro mix HP is what you want

you may be correct but it is not available around me

 

[Aqua Man]

Another reason to start small and be uppottong

 

[Aqua Man]

You have any none moisture control? Just regular? Just ise that and mix in 30% perlite. You can make your own peat based soils easily…. Just look for peat moss that already has a buffer and add as much perlite as you need

 

[budsofmadison]

You have any none moisture control? Just regular? Just ise that and mix in 30% perlite. You can make your own peat based soils easily…. Just look for peat moss that already has a buffer and add as much perlite as you need

no other stuff i took 15 gallon of this pro mix and added 6 gallons of perlite it's been working

 

[budsofmadison]

not hp but it is all that comes up at my local home depot

https://www.homedepot.com/b/Outdoors-Garden-Center-Hydroponic-Gardening-Hydroponic-Growing-Media-Grow-Media/PRO-MIX/N-5yc1vZceobZd06

 

[Aqua Man]

not hp but it is all that comes up at my local home depot

https://www.homedepot.com/b/Outdoors-Garden-Center-Hydroponic-Gardening-Hydroponic-Growing-Media-Grow-Media/PRO-MIX/N-5yc1vZceobZd06

Yeah id say thats a better choice and add perlite of about 30%

 

[GoodShit97]

You have any none moisture control? Just regular? Just ise that and mix in 30% perlite. You can make your own peat based soils easily…. Just look for peat moss that already has a buffer and add as much perlite as you need

Why did my dumb ass not think of this. I can get 4 cu ft bales of buffered peat for like 20 dollars. A 3.8 cu ft bale of promix BX is almost 60 dollars. Ive got 4 cu ft of fresh perlite in my shed.

Thanks again ya genius.

no other stuff i took 15 gallon of this pro mix and added 6 gallons of perlite it's been working

I took 20 gallons of promix bx and added like 8-10 gallons of perlite, water every 2 days. Almost the same time of day every 2 days they are dry.

 

[Aqua Man]

Why did my dumb ass not think of this. I can get 4 cu ft bales of buffered peat for like 20 dollars. A 3.8 cu ft bale of promix BX is almost 60 dollars. Ive got 4 cu ft of fresh perlite in my shed.

Thanks again ya genius.

I took 20 gallons of promix bx and added like 8-10 gallons of perlite, water every 2 days. Almost the same time of day every 2 days they are dry.

Glad to help brother

 

[budsofmadison]

i got to be doing something better here is my last grow in this 4x4
these were my barney's farm Acapulco gold at middle of week 3 from seed big difference in my cheese and white afghan at 3 weeks then these and there in the soil from the gold grow

 

[budsofmadison]

the only difference is im adding kelp extract to the cheese and white afghan water was not adding it to the gold grow

 

[budsofmadison]

2nd day of week 3 from seed

 

[CannaGranny]

i been using 3 gallon fabric pots i do have some 5 gallon fabric pots , i am wondering if there would be any advantage to using a 5 gallon pot over a 3 would the plant yield more by just being in the 5 then the 3

I do an organic soil grow, I have seen a remarkable difference in going from three to a seven gallon pot. An old saying, the larger the roots the larger the fruits.

 

[budsofmadison]

so i watered friday night the 26th 4 cups of water i measured it out no runoff
it will be the 31st maybe even the 1st b4 i can wata again

 

[budsofmadison]

I do an organic soil grow, I have seen a remarkable difference in going from three to a seven gallon pot. An old saying, the larger the roots the larger the fruits.

i think when it comes time to transplant i will go to 5 gallon fabric pots , i might even add a little more perlite to the mix , i am reusing the soil from my Acapulco gold grow

 

[budsofmadison]

ending of week 3 from seed what do you experienced guys think so far

 

[budsofmadison]

did i start lst to early ?

 

[moe.red]

did i start lst to early ?

No you almost cannot lst too early IMO. You can top too early, but LST is very forgiving.

Are they growing quickly?

 

[budsofmadison]

No you almost cannot lst too early IMO. You can top too early, but LST is very forgiving.

Are they growing quickly?

to me they are there the biggest plants i have had at 3 weeks
it just when i lst the tops just pulled them over they are not standing back up like they should it's been 2 days

 

[budsofmadison]

how long can i let my plants stay in the 1 gallon pots before i transplant there 4 weeks old now ? is there a benefit to keep them in the 1 gallon pots longer ,how long before i flip to 12/12 should they be transplanted 1 week b4 flip 2 weeks b4 flip ?

 

[moe.red]

how long can i let my plants stay in the 1 gallon pots before i transplant there 4 weeks old now ? is there a benefit to keep them in the 1 gallon pots longer ,how long before i flip to 12/12 should they be transplanted 1 week b4 flip 2 weeks b4 flip ?

I'm doing my first soil grow right now, in the seedling stage. So I am not an authority.

My plan is to go directly from the solo cups they are in to the final pot size - 5 gallon airpots. This is based on general feedback from soil growers.

I think I would repot now to the final size. Big roots and all.

 

[budsofmadison]

I'm doing my first soil grow right now, in the seedling stage. So I am not an authority.

My plan is to go directly from the solo cups they are in to the final pot size - 5 gallon airpots. This is based on general feedback from soil growers.

I think I would repot now to the final size. Big roots and all.

normally that's what i did solo cup to final pot but at the other place folks always told me it should of been solo cup to 1 gallon then to maybe 3 gallon then to 5 gallons lol to many steps if u ask me lol

 

[moe.red]

normally that's what i did solo cup to final pot but at the other place folks always told me it should of been solo cup to 1 gallon then to maybe 3 gallon then to 5 gallons lol to many steps if u ask me lol

I hear you. Its really confusing to us newbies when there are so many spectacular growers out there that do it differently. Sometimes instructions are contrary.

I'm transplanting seedlings to 5 gal on the advice of growers I trust. But there are many ways to do it no doubt.

 

[GoodShit97]

ending of week 3 from seed what do you experienced guys think so far
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They look really good for 3 weeks old man.

And as far as starting lst too early, on the other site, ive seen people lst little 10 day old seedlings and everything ends up aok.
As moe said, lst is pretty forgiving, where if you top to early, you could end up fkd lol.

 

[GoodShit97]

how long can i let my plants stay in the 1 gallon pots before i transplant there 4 weeks old now ? is there a benefit to keep them in the 1 gallon pots longer ,how long before i flip to 12/12 should they be transplanted 1 week b4 flip 2 weeks b4 flip ?

Did you start them in 1 gallon pots or solos?

I usually get 2-3 weeks out of a solo cup, so you could prolly get 4 or 5 out of a 1 gallon pot.

And as far as flipping to 12/12, i like to shoot for 16-26 inch plants at flip, but its strain dependant.

16-20 for sativas, and 22-26 for indicas.