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[Observer]

what about taste test Ob? you seem like the kinda guy that may get useful info from a small drop like a wine connoisseur...eventually you'd be able to tell ppm and ph with just a drop on your tongue ..lol...start now by the time you're my age you'd be a taste testing wonder.......its just salts....lol

I actually.....considered this idea a few nights ago, haha.

I got some Phenol red to match up, maybe I could see if there's a slight taste difference.

 

[Observer]

The Spx610 comes with a kit and case also. It has extra batteries and storage and calibration solution. The only problem with the one your talking about is you cannot replace the probe. But other than that I hear it's a solid pen. It should last you awhile.

Oh shit ok thanks man, yeah I'd probably want a replaceable probe.

I've had multiple of those cheap ass 5-10$ pens blue/orange/yellow never worked the best for me but some of that is more than likely my fault for
improper maintenance/handling & Storage

 

[Observer]

Everything just calibrated
View attachment 19870

I want one of those.


Top ppm bottom pH?

Nice

 

[Observer]

what about taste test Ob? you seem like the kinda guy that may get useful info from a small drop like a wine connoisseur...eventually you'd be able to tell ppm and ph with just a drop on your tongue ..lol...start now by the time you're my age you'd be a taste testing wonder.......its just salts....lol

So that link didn't work as intended. The pen I am talking about is the Blue one for 11.99. Second one down from the top.

Thank you may get a decent ph Apera one and then a cheap pH one and some strips to gerify accuracies

 

[Observer]

I've been at it a long time too, I checked every input and run off ph and ppm and kept track of it....after a while I started to understand how my nutes effected my water and soil....so now I have a feeling where things are at......

I should check more often but my guesses to where I'm at are pretty close when I do check........My ppm did get too high this grow and it cost me 1 plant.when I got up over 1400 I was thinking 1200 when I took the reading....ooops.....lol.....I dropped my feed a bit and alls good....

Yup, I had everything measure out and didn't have to check anymore but now a different brand of nutes and maybe slightly different water.

Throwing my pH off mainly, got some more Phenol red so I can get an idea

Waiting on settlement money from car wreck to get apartment and baby stuff things and then if there's enough left over I can get a nice ish pH pen kit

 

[tobh]

Waiting on settlement money from car wreck to get apartment and baby stuff things and then if there's enough left over I can get a nice ish pH pen kit

damn dude. just went through that myself. seven. fucking. years. of bullshit. settlement was barely enough to get the emergency fund back in healthy order and pay off the last of the medical debt i incurred because of that wreck. good luck, man! hope yours moves faster than mine did.

 

[Observer]

Fu

 

[Observer]

damn dude. just went through that myself. seven. fucking. years. of bullshit. settlement was barely enough to get the emergency fund back in healthy order and pay off the last of the medical debt i incurred because of that wreck. good luck, man! hope yours moves faster than mine did.

Holy hell 7 years fighting insurance?

Seems like a year for us but was around 5 months or so.

It's just been one thing after another, one step forward, two back.

That's life I suppose but it's been way to much back-2-back bs.


We finally got them to come up again some more, not entirely satisfied with the cucks but better than initial offer, needed to take the best we could as moving, financials and time etc.

Should get some checks next week or so.



Thanks man

 

[Observer]

Ok mixed up a gallon, epsom salt and 5-12-26.

No 15-0-0, pH down, hypo acid or h2o2 yet

the color is yellow/orange around 6.0, not a fan of not being precise.

Would like my pH around 5.4-5.8

And fuck this color shade shit lol, women see shades better than men.

 

[SSgrower]

No idea what my pH is, 100% Vermiculite a few coco. Just adding 1ml pH down and wait and see what plants show

Or e.c

This^ I add 1 pipette to 1 1/2 gal of nutrients stir again and "pour" hand watering here still. SSgrower

 

[ninjadip]

Anyone use any "apera instruments"

I buy cheap ph controllers then replace the probe with apera ones and they are close to dead on month after month. So reliable I only recalibrate them now at the end of a grow, and they are only off by a few hundredths.

I have three of these and very satisfied.

Double junction probe:

APERA INSTRUMENTS 201DJ-C Double-Junction pH Electrode, BNC Connector, 3 Ft Cable, PC Body https://a.co/d/6QmxeNH

 

[Observer]

I buy cheap ph controllers then replace the probe with apera ones and they are close to dead on month after month. So reliable I only recalibrate them now at the end of a grow, and they are only off by a few hundredths.

I have three of these and very satisfied.

Double junction probe:

APERA INSTRUMENTS 201DJ-C Double-Junction pH Electrode, BNC Connector, 3 Ft Cable, PC Body https://a.co/d/6QmxeNH

Do those connect to about any controller or

 

[Observer]

@Moe.Red cheaper to make my own controller like you got going on?

I could learn Arduino, I've been meaning to learn programming for years.

 

[tobh]

@Moe.Red cheaper to make my own controller like you got going on?

I could learn Arduino, I've been meaning to learn programming for years.

happy to help you get your feet under ya. was a software engineer for the better part of a decade. don't live in code day-to-day anymore but am now an appsec engineer and always end up finding myself in the depths of low-level malicious code.

 

[Observer]

happy to help you get your feet under ya. was a software engineer for the better part of a decade. don't live in code day-to-day anymore but am now an appsec engineer and always end up finding myself in the depths of low-level malicious code.

Sweet man, I was supposed to do this when I was around 16, 10 years ago.

Quantum mechanics makes more sense to me than a compute language that tells 1s and 0s what to do.

I don't get it lol.

Guess I need a good source to learn and practice and actually sit down and take the time to do it. I get started and it's just like

Like I just want to type in English.

"You'll do this and that"

Figured something like plants and needing microcontrollers etc, will give me the motivation to learn it.

There's a lot of fields that plants correlate/linked to like chemistry, and photosynthesis uses quantum mechanics, and the passion and motivation comes to learn about cultivation and everything it embodies is there.

 

[Observer]

And no shit, plants are damn similar to room temp super conductors

Unless my understanding and how I see things are completely wrong.

They have 95% efficiency at room temp, photons hit electrons and they find their way to the reaction center via quantum entanglement (?)

That's why I say similar.

 

[Observer]

And maybe I can get a WFH job through programming , help support my family while I'm watching daughter and she goes tonwork.

 

[tobh]

Sweet man, I was supposed to do this when I was around 16, 10 years ago.

Quantum mechanics makes more sense to me than a compute language that tells 1s and 0s what to do.

I don't get it lol.

Guess I need a good source to learn and practice and actually sit down and take the time to do it. I get started and it's just like

i'm the same way. reading tutorials and shit don't work for me. it's the attention to detail that's teh killer -- you want to know why but the why doesn't matter in programming. at least, not outside of academic computer science. every "learn to program" book takes that approach, and it doesn't work. breaking down a problem to the what is much more approachable.

for instance. i need this sensor communicate with a central collector that will aggregate teh data and make it consumable to me in a pretty graph. distill it down to i need a client to communicate with a server and send data asynchronously. the server needs to stay alive and receive connections. we'll use UDP protocol as the transport protocol as losing some data isn't going to swing our overall stats heavily.

so let's build a simple udp server and client.

kk that's done, let's move to the server side. the server receives data but doesn't give a shit about it because it has nowhere to dump it. tap postgresql. structured data like this is perfect for a relational database. stand up a database.

now you need an api to make sure teh data lands where it should so the processing can happen. this is a simple API, we're just dumping data from a sensor into a database but we need it organized.

api built. now let's leverage something like grafana to ingest that data and make our pretty graphs. leverage existing technology, you just align the tables and column names with what you want to see and bam. solution to a problem.

filling in the gaps with code and some careful thought becomes much easier when you eliminate the "i have this thing that does 0 and 1 and translating to hello_world() doesn't make sense."

 

[Observer]

I dropped out 10th grade, "teach my self" everything interesting to me

Space
Philosophy
Cultivation
Technology

 

[tobh]

And maybe I can get a WFH job through programming , help support my family while I'm watching daughter and she goes tonwork.

good luck with that. WFH is attainable, but i speak from experience -- watching kids and being a code monkey don't mix. hell, i get into some complex shit and literally the second i get into flow state, i have a child banging on my office door for snacks or help mediating a sibling battle. and my lady won't go to work because kush life.

 

[tobh]

I dropped out 10th grade, "teach my self" everything .

i dropped out the beginning of senior year and was in college by christmas. high school was bullshit.

 

[Observer]

good luck with that. WFH is attainable, but i speak from experience -- watching kids and being a code monkey don't mix. hell, i get into some complex shit and literally the second i get into flow state, i have a child banging on my office door for snacks or help mediating a sibling battle. and my lady won't go to work because kush life.

Experience speaks volumes.

Definitely agree.

I'm ADD enough as it is, and then I gotta stop to take care of 17mo

 

[Observer]

i dropped out the beginning of senior year and was in college by christmas. high school was bullshit.

Yeah I was definitely a young teenage degenerate(play games beat your meat and smoke weed lol, all I wanted to do was stay in my room and fuck the outside world) but I definitely obviously love to learn, Atleast shit that I care about.

Public school is fucking trash and teach an agenda it seems, Atleast they have these text books that say this and that is fact but actually it's based on theories.

like Egypt for example, we don't actually know how old they are(pyramids /sphinx afaik) yet those history books say they are this old, and do not present the other side of the arguments
And of course "they" don't want to go back and rewrite them.
Kinda pisses me off.




Tech
Space
Philosophy
Cultivation
History

 

[Observer]

i'm the same way. reading tutorials and shit don't work for me. it's the attention to detail that's teh killer -- you want to know why but the why doesn't matter in programming. at least, not outside of academic computer science. every "learn to program" book takes that approach, and it doesn't work. breaking down a problem to the what is much more approachable.

for instance. i need this sensor communicate with a central collector that will aggregate teh data and make it consumable to me in a pretty graph. distill it down to i need a client to communicate with a server and send data asynchronously. the server needs to stay alive and receive connections. we'll use UDP protocol as the transport protocol as losing some data isn't going to swing our overall stats heavily.

so let's build a simple udp server and client.

kk that's done, let's move to the server side. the server receives data but doesn't give a shit about it because it has nowhere to dump it. tap postgresql. structured data like this is perfect for a relational database. stand up a database.

now you need an api to make sure teh data lands where it should so the processing can happen. this is a simple API, we're just dumping data from a sensor into a database but we need it organized.

api built. now let's leverage something like grafana to ingest that data and make our pretty graphs. leverage existing technology, you just align the tables and column names with what you want to see and bam. solution to a problem.

filling in the gaps with code and some careful thought becomes much easier when you eliminate the "i have this thing that does 0 and 1 and translating to hello_world() doesn't make sense."

And I definitely need to know the why, I suppose it's apart of my learning process.

So maybe it's like a mental barrier, I will keep trying and spend more time with it when I do have time do shit

Shit always crazy when moving, as you just went through/are.

 

[tobh]

Yeah I was young teenage degenerate but I definitely obviously love to learn, Atleast shit that I care about.

Public school is fucking trash and teach an agenda it seems, Atleast they have these text books that say this and that is fact but actually it's based on theories.

like Egypt for example, we don't actually know how old they are(pyramids /sphinx afaik) yet those history books say they are this old, and do not present the other side of the arguments
And of course "they" don't want to go back and rewrite them.
Kinda pisses me off.




Tech
Space
Philosophy
Cultivation
History

history is written by the scribe.

text books are approved by a school board which is comprised of parents of the community those schools reside in.

this is why we're seeing schools teaching lessons from the bible now.

separation of church and state has dissolved, and the moment i hear my children are having christianity or biased opinions shoved down their throats as truth, i may end up on the news because of my overly aggressive and direct verbal assault on every teacher and "official" seat shilling that garbage.

facts are facts -- they're indisputable. stories and tales are different and the bible is just that -- a fucking story book.

 

[tobh]

And I definitely need to know the why, I suppose it's apart of my learning process.

So maybe it's like a mental barrier, I will keep trying and spend more time with it when I do have time do shit

Shit always crazy when moving, as you just went through/are.

early on with programming, forget teh why. you'll figure out the why later. you must work backwards, and that's what fucks up programming education. as you get into it, take whatever at face value, don't question it. the why will come through later, and you won't realize you understand why until you're doing something and it'll be like "oh yeah, i was hella fucked up that one time and that happened so i don't do that anymore."

 

[Observer]

history is written by the scribe.

text books are approved by a school board which is comprised of parents of the community those schools reside in.

this is why we're seeing schools teaching lessons from the bible now.

separation of church and state has dissolved, and the moment i hear my children are having christianity or biased opinions shoved down their throats as truth, i may end up on the news because of my overly aggressive and direct verbal assault on every teacher and "official" seat shilling that garbage.

facts are facts -- they're indisputable. stories and tales are different and the bible is just that -- a fucking story book.

Thanks for contextualizing that

Well read

 

[Observer]

Thanks @tobh

 

[Rootsruler]

good luck with that. WFH is attainable, but i speak from experience -- watching kids and being a code monkey don't mix. hell, i get into some complex shit and literally the second i get into flow state, i have a child banging on my office door for snacks or help mediating a sibling battle. and my lady won't go to work because kush life.

Nothing worse than debugging your code and you're getting close to finding the issue then......Daaaaaaddeee.........fuck

 

[smoke]

I want one of those.


Top ppm bottom pH?

Nice

Your missing the point of the picture. All these probes have just bean freshly calibrated are in the same water but are 1not reading the same. They are a expensive probe imo and i expected better.

The auto doser reads ph at 5.5 and is different than the others, which one should be used?

 

[Observer]

Your missing the point of the picture. All these probes have just bean freshly calibrated are in the same water but are 1not reading the same. They are a expensive probe imo and i expected better.

The auto doser reads ph at 5.5 and is different than the others, which one should be used?

Lmao, how did I miss that, sleep deprivation maybe.

Ok that's a problem for me, those are a little pricey for that performance.

The average one?

 

[Observer]

@smoke

The autodoser, it's the odd one "in"

And those 3 are obviously disagreeing with each other, lol.

 

[ninjadip]

Do those connect to about any controller or

As long as it has a BNC connector, which it seems they all use.

 

[Observer]

As long as it has a BNC connector, which it seems they all use.

gotcha, makes sense, thank ya.

 

[ninjadip]

gotcha, makes sense, thank ya.

I know I'm the odd one out who doesn't use blue lab, but I'm a student on a budget.

Ph controller and EC reader with mechanical adjustments for $80 is hard to beat, especially when it's easy to make reliable with a small upgrade.

 

[Observer]

I know I'm the odd one out who doesn't use blue lab, but I'm a student on a budget.

Ph controller and EC reader with mechanical adjustments for $80 is hard to beat, especially when it's easy to make reliable with a small upgrade.

sounds good to me, im a stay-at-home-dad rn lol

 

[SSgrower]

I dropped out 10th grade, "teach my self" everything interesting to me

Space
Philosophy
Cultivation
Technology

I got a GED in 6 months after an LSD graduation from but needing 2 credits for my diploma, Marine's jelped with that. I too need "Desire" to learn anything. I study Law, Medicine, and Agriculture. Cheers Observer, SSgrower

 

[Zen_seeker]

Yeah I was definitely a young teenage degenerate(play games beat your meat and smoke weed lol, all I wanted to do was stay in my room and fuck the outside world) but I definitely obviously love to learn, Atleast shit that I care about.

Public school is fucking trash and teach an agenda it seems, Atleast they have these text books that say this and that is fact but actually it's based on theories.

like Egypt for example, we don't actually know how old they are(pyramids /sphinx afaik) yet those history books say they are this old, and do not present the other side of the arguments
And of course "they" don't want to go back and rewrite them.
Kinda pisses me off.




Tech
Space
Philosophy
Cultivation
History

That WF? Episode explains the Egyptians and pyramids. Power plants. No one has ever found a mummy IN a pyramid.

 

[Zen_seeker]

Nothing worse than debugging your code and you're getting close to finding the issue then......Daaaaaaddeee.........fuck

Been a few years. Now I miss it…and don’t code anymore.

 

[Zen_seeker]

facts are facts -- they're indisputable. stories and tales are different and the bible is just that -- a fucking story book.

As I’ve learned over the years, so are most school books. Todays facts are tomorrows fiction as often as it goes the other way.

With LAR and other tech we know more than we ever did. But it’s not being shown openly to the public.

Same goes for all the space discoveries. Why do I have to search engines and YouTube to learn about new things and separate BS or crazy shit from fact?

At some point over the last 3-4 decades we switched gears. Stopped growing. Discouraged thinking outside the box and punished or discredited the ones that did/do.

Hmm…getting long…