Observers' Rockwool Play

[Observer]

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[Observer]

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8ml per cube out of a gallon solution of

("PK-N") (higher PK>N ratio) > ( logic being for root focus/growth) roots like the PK/micros

0.4ec/5.4pH

5.5ml 34% h2o2

2.5ml hypo acid



~14.93mL is approximate Max (WHC%) }

Of "these" "1inch" cubes.

Giving me a water content % around ~53.583%

 

[Observer]

RW

these 4 seeds are from my pollen chucking experiment/test

ill probably pick the best looking one or two, maybe add 2-4 more cups

2 cubes in each basket, seeds are down as of today around 2pm for those

still on stand by for the CLF 9oz RW run, figuring out the Fem/Seed/Clone source

 

[Observer]

Got it yesterday

Always skeptical touching the fuckin thing lol

 

[elusive]

You need something. Clone Xis kind of expensive. It works fine. They all kind of do. I use dip and grow. They all work
Those 1” are kind of a pain in the ass. Did you buy trays as well? I have used them. Hard to get enough water out of them as the start. You want the rock damp but not soaking wet. The wetter tge cube the longer it take to get clones.

When I did my clones, I just dunked them in water for a few hours then soil with nothing else. I had about 50% success rate with it. That said, I’m sure something like clonex or using aloe would’ve greatly increased success, but you don’t actually need anything.

Also that’s interesting about the moistness of the rockwool.

 

[Anthem275]

When I did my clones, I just dunked them in water for a few hours then soil with nothing else. I had about 50% success rate with it. That said, I’m sure something like clonex or using aloe would’ve greatly increased success, but you don’t actually need anything.

Also that’s interesting about the moistness of the rockwool.

With that method I get about 98 percent positive results.

 

[Observer]

Went ahead with the 8 regs of mine.


Ready to get started Learning this.

rockwool, on "slabs", the cheap AF version.

Micro-"CLF" 9oz Solo Cups with "1inch" rockwool cube(s) on top of 8 other 1inch rockwool cubes, the "slabs".

The Mini-Version.

Time to give a few mLs to the seeds/cubes, using the timer.

And see if the parts even work with how I have it.

Have these screwed in a little more to have a slow water rate, if that is how it works.

 

[Observer]

With that method I get about 98 percent positive results.

I have very inconsistent results with cloning.

Perhaps, Environment and WC% is my main culprit.

 

[Observer]

Went ahead with the 8 regs of mine.


Ready to get started Learning this.

rockwool, on "slabs", the cheap AF version.

Micro-"CLF" 9oz Solo Cups with "1inch" rockwool cube(s) on top of 8 other 1inch rockwool cubes, the "slabs".

The Mini-Version.

Time to give a few mLs to the seeds/cubes, using the timer.

And see if the parts even work with how I have it.

Have these screwed in a little more to have a slow water rate, if that is how it works.

Ok I just gotta adjust along the way and figure out to match/balance the timer/drip/water to the plants/ENV.

Work with it a little.

 

[Observer]

That's fuckin cool

Lmao

 

[Observer]

RW

 

[Observer]

Scaled down RW grow.

Cheap AF.

 

[Observer]

She looks good, she looks bad, she looks good, she looks bad, she looks good again.

Getting it figured out.

 

[Observer]

Lmao

@GrumpAzz

0.3e.c

Would like to install RO filter to control that 0.3ec, takes up most of the "starting" nutes E.C

So just running tap water and a little bit of kelp 5.3pH

I did not soak any cubes before hand, did not want to wait on dryback. If it's not warm/airflow enough.

 

[Observer]

@Dirtbag

Learning/figuring the wool out.

Scaled down rockwool on "slabs",cheapest way for me to do so ATM, figure I can put the cups in bigger cubes down the line If needed/ if I wanted. Betting the 9oz solos fit down about perfectly in a 4 cube or 6.

 

[Observer]

@Dirtbag

Learning/figuring the wool out.

Scaled down rockwool on "slabs",cheapest way for me to do so ATM, figure I can put the cups in bigger cubes down the line If needed/ if I wanted. Betting the 9oz solos fit down about perfectly in a 4 cube or 6.

They just need to shed their "helmets"

Keeping the tent around 79-85F and 65-80Rh for germination/rooting/veg phase.

Timer is watering every 2 hours, for 5 seconds, 10 seconds at lights on, 10 seconds lights off, on the auto fertigation 8 cups.

Learning/figuring out how to Adjust as I go and observe/learn what it wants/needs/ balancing the drybacks to the time/temperature and humidity/ENV.


Hand watering the other cubes/cups/clones, 1-5mLs at times.

 

[Dirtbag]

@Dirtbag

Learning/figuring the wool out.

Scaled down rockwool on "slabs",cheapest way for me to do so ATM, figure I can put the cups in bigger cubes down the line If needed/ if I wanted. Betting the 9oz solos fit down about perfectly in a 4 cube or 6.

Clear cups? Bro..

 

[Observer]

Clear cups? Bro..

yea....i know you're not supposed to lol

ez fix though

i can just wrap em with foil/put them in red ones down the line.

want to see the roots, and test fighting off algae.

 

[Dirtbag]

yea....i know you're not supposed to lol

ez fix though

i can just wrap em with foil/put them in red ones down the line.

want to see the roots, and test fighting off algae.

Yeah roots don't like the light. And algae. But mainly the fact that roots prefer to be kept in the dark.

 

[smoke]

yea....i know you're not supposed to lol

ez fix though

i can just wrap em with foil/put them in red ones down the line.

want to see the roots, and test fighting off algae.

Stack the clear cup in a regular cup

 

[Observer]

Yeah roots don't like the light. And algae. But mainly the fact that roots prefer to be kept in the dark.

i covered my 5x5 half gallon pots with foil and then roots started growing out on top.

https://budbuilders.org/threads/observers-flower-space.630/post-47987

was curious how much the roots will/can grow even being exposed to light, doesnt seem like much room at all to play with

 

[Observer]

Stack the clear cup in a regular cup

Dont think it'll grow out any roots in the light at all?

thought i could let it go a week or so then place em in the red solos, but then i have to redo the plant count to 6 or change the Run-Off Container.

 

[Observer]

cant get any "clones" in RW yet, and or im not being patient enough.

figuring it out.

 

[Observer]

progress

 

[Observer]

@Rootsruler

...neat

Clever I thought, considering I have no money for materiels or tools to Fabricate things my self


I want a 3D printer

@GoodShit97 hey man if you never get yours working I'll take it off you're hands and I'll try to play around with it

I'll pay ofc

 

[GoodShit97]

@GoodShit97 hey man if you never get yours working I'll take it off you're hands and I'll try to play around with it

I'll pay ofc

I havent figured out what im doing with it yet.
I gotta order the parts for it after christmas then my father in law is gonna come help me recalibrate the damn thing cause its all fucked up and i couldn't make the adjustments save.

 

[Rootsruler]

@Rootsruler

...neat

Clever I thought, considering I have no money for materiels or tools to Fabricate things my self


I want a 3D printer

@GoodShit97 hey man if you never get yours working I'll take it off you're hands and I'll try to play around with it

I'll pay ofc

Uh oh.....what did I do?

 

[Observer]

just taggin ya

Uh oh.....what did I do?

lol

 

[Observer]

...had to do the bucket again.

 

[Observer]

Update: I still aint CLONED SHIT!

seeds are growing though, none of the cuts im taking want to Root,or im fucking it up over & over

79-85f
65-75rh
5.5pH
0.1-0.3 E.C

overly saturated media?/rockwool cubes

 

[Rootsruler]

What's your process? Why aren't they rooting?

 

[Observer]

What's your process? Why aren't they rooting?

5-10ml 5.5pH/0.2 E.C Solution,
current cuts from flowering plants, id say 80-90% "health"
dip it in my clonex gel
add 5-10ml of solution to 1inch cube, insert.
ive tried saturated too.

then gets a dome for the first 24hours if it needs, then adjust to my 2x4 space, @ 78-84f 62-74RH

its not that they are wilting and drying out, they arent spitting new roots period.

ive tried so many cuts now from the flower tent.

Why aren't they rooting?

1# im not being patient enough,

2# WC/% is TOO HIGH,

3# the "cuts" are from "Stressed"/not the 100% healthiest moms, but that should not matter that much i thought, unless they are Really Unhealthy cuts....


i mean the environment isnt terrible?

78-84s 65-74 rh

when im not opening it


hmmm.....
idfk..

 

[Observer]

What's your process? Why aren't they rooting?

not 100% sure yet......can only be a few things.....im gonna get this RW media down though.

 

[GoodShit97]

current cuts from flowering plants, id say 80-90% "health"

Ime flowered cuts take 3-4 weeks to shoot roots because they have to refocus from flower production to root production.

I dont give my clones ANY kind of food until roots have grown.
Imo nutrients are for rooted plants/clones but i dont know a thing about hydro/rockwool, thats why i will always be a soil guy.

I take cuttings and put them in my standard plug cloner or i just chuck them in a solo cup of plain promix and have roots within 10-14 days that way.

 

[Pipecarver]

Ime flowered cuts take 3-4 weeks to shoot roots because they have to refocus from flower production to root production.

I dont give my clones ANY kind of food until roots have grown.
Imo nutrients are for rooted plants/clones but i dont know a thing about hydro/rockwool, thats why i will always be a soil guy.

I take cuttings and put them in my standard plug cloner or i just chuck them in a solo cup of plain promix and have roots within 10-14 days that way.

Mine take 2 weeks to grow roots then they seem to burst out, after 3 weeks in a solo cup they can be root wrapped. I've tried a variety of cloning methods and I'm back to the beginning again. Cut, clean up the bottom of the cutting, root gel in a premade hole and on the stem and stick it in the dirt / promix.... dome, light - light and I'm 99 -100%.

I know that won't work for you while using rock wool cubes but I've tried cubes as well and I couldn't get them to work either, I'd either let them dry out or they were too wet but it just frustrated me back to soil starts

 

[GoodShit97]

Cut, clean up the bottom of the cutting, root gel in a premade hole and on the stem and stick it in the dirt / promix.... dome, light - light and I'm 99 -100%.

Yeah the method you are using is basically idiotproof.
I had issues when i went to do a large run of clones in my cloner. I lost every single one the 30 i cut lol, had things too cold

 

[Observer]

Ime flowered cuts take 3-4 weeks to shoot roots because they have to refocus from flower production to root production.

Good point, thanks.

I dont give my clones ANY kind of food until roots have grown.
Imo nutrients are for rooted plants/clones but i dont know a thing about hydro/rockwool, thats why i will always be a soil guy.

I take cuttings and put them in my standard plug cloner or i just chuck them in a solo cup of plain promix and have roots within 10-14 days that way.

 

[Observer]

45~ seeds down in the 2x4

 

[GoodShit97]

Good point, thanks.

I had some issues when i did a run of clones recently.
It was too cold and the rh was 100% so things either rotted, molded, or got mushy spots. So i raised the temp like 10 degrees and opened the vents om my dome. I havent lost one since i made adjustments

 

[Observer]

0.3 E.C
5.6 pH
24-21-26 NpK