Kuwl...... MH FC 8000 EVO + 6 Plants

Pipecarver said:

Ya I've tried them twice now with hermies both times, I thought it was me the first time. I have a couple packs I'm leery of using still. Nice exotic names but I think that's the problem. Untested crosses just shipped out to make fast cash.

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Are you talking about the runtz seeds or the greenpoint seeds?
AI said the Laos seeds where bubba Cush lol so who knows

Kuwl said:

Are you talking about the runtz seeds or the greenpoint seeds?
AI said the Laos seeds where bubba Cush lol so who knows

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green point I've not had any luck with

Kuwl said:

Are you talking about the runtz seeds or the greenpoint seeds?
AI said the Laos seeds where bubba Cush lol so who knows

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Hey, I've been using Google Ai again and its not looking so good adding organic and synthetics together making problematic interactions and gunk from silt in the soil...I don't know why so far I've been good but Ai is funny some searches depending on how I word and where the cdomma's are I get different results. Look at this link it describes my plight.

Pipecarver said:

Hey, I've been using Google Ai again and its not looking so good adding organic and synthetics together making problematic interactions and gunk from silt in the soil...I don't know why so far I've been good but Ai is funny some searches depending on how I word and where the cdomma's are I get different results. Look at this link it describes my plight.

Google Search

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Interesting read,
almost sounds like General hydroponics wrote it ha ha J/K
But it makes sense the way it’s written, but it’s AI so I don’t know, but it makes me lean towards not adding that stuff or only adding a smaller much smaller amount if any.
After reading that I’m thinking of going straight General hydroponics.

I haven’t started my seeds yet.
Taking my time.

Kuwl said:

Interesting read,
almost sounds like General hydroponics wrote it ha ha J/K
But it makes sense the way it’s written, but it’s AI so I don’t know, but it makes me lean towards not adding that stuff or only adding a smaller much smaller amount if any.
After reading that I’m thinking of going straight General hydroponics.

I haven’t started my seeds yet.
Taking my time.

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Hey again, I'm persistent at getting the results I want I reworded my method and it seems to work much better now...lol...

vegging cannabis in ABS Greenworld VPW30 with 15% added worm castings,1tbs/gal wollsonite, 1/8 tsp/gal yucca powder, 1tbs/gal gypsum, 15%added perlite. Transplanting into autopots at 1 month old into ABS Greenworld VPW30 with added 30% perlite then switching to General hydroponics Micro, Grow, Bloom, cal/mag, Diamond Nectar, Koolbloom and hyclean to help with salts

Pipecarver said:

Hey again, I'm persistent at getting the results I want I reworded my method and it seems to work much better now...lol...

vegging cannabis in ABS Greenworld VPW30 with 15% added worm castings,1tbs/gal wollsonite, 1/8 tsp/gal yucca powder, 1tbs/gal gypsum, 15%added perlite. Transplanting into autopots at 1 month old into ABS Greenworld VPW30 with added 30% perlite then switching to General hydroponics Micro, Grow, Bloom, cal/mag, Diamond Nectar, Koolbloom and hyclean to help with salts

Google Search

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I was going to use worm castings and compost but now my head spinning because this changes it and I might be able to use the other stuff now, but I’m gonna have to search it for sunshine mix #4 and see what happens.

I see you made the question much more specific.
Maybe that’s it then.

Kuwl said:

I was going to use worm castings and compost but now my head spinning because this changes it and I might be able to use the other stuff now, but I’m gonna have to search it for sunshine mix #4 and see what happens.

I see you made the question much more specific.
Maybe that’s it then.

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Ya, it says to give as much details as you can for best results. I saw that before I mentioned transplanting it was a no go but then I had to add what media I'm in...and it what percentages I use. It helped me with Yucca Percentage I said 1 tbs/gal it says 1/8th tsp so that helps. It was talking about transplant shock but it assumed a coco mix in the Autopots. Yes sir the wording really matters and details get better results.

I was surprised by the info that I haven't had any issues with toxicity but I'll keep it in mind not to over do it and I won't add any of that organic stuff to my plants at transplant.

I soaked em for bout 20 hrs, got them to sink after a few but for Snow Daze Haze took a lil longer but finally sank.
After that I don't bother with paper towels I stick em in moist dirt (SSM #4) in a solo that was sitting in a 78 degree room.
MarsHydro TS1000 light set 18/6 with the cups off center to get the ambient light only.
Now I wait for them to pop.
Snow Daze Haze
Tangi Dream
Runtz
A-L-H-J (Afghan-Hawaiin-Laos-Jamaican)
White Truffles x 2
Been a week!!
Feral kitten got in our house and we had to let it back out.
Too feral to tame and don't want another one.
Was very cute patchy cat that I call a "cow kat".
Buddy hangs with this kitten and watches over it so I'm sure it'll be fine.

Last night the out back cam caught 2 racoons and a full size skunk feeding out of the kibble dish.
I'm not putting any out there at night no more. haha!

Well 3 popped pretty good too.
They about 1/4 - 1/2 inch above soil and now under the 25% light but off to the side a bit.
The others are still in the dark and not showing yet (Gramp's) WT, the other wt* is mine, Tangi Dream and Runtz.
I'm impatient and once they don't pop right away, I get a bad feeling.

Ordered the rest of my stuff today, from Amazon, so all set for this run now.
Was low on KB dry so ordered it along with KB Liquid + AC Ion side lights and a bottle of GH Rapid Start.
Pretty soon will be mixing up the soil for the gal pots.
Cold and rainy here for the next week, perfect timing to start.
Was not going to but now that I started, I'm happy about it.

Kittens will have to be fixed by next week as I think they are 3 months old at least.
They have to go in for a check up and shots anyway.
The vet will know how old they are for sure.
Last time we thought Panda and Shady were a couple of months old and found out they were almost a year old.
We love these taby twins, they are lap cats for sure.
Ghost is ok with them and so are the other 2. They get along great now. Smellin' each other butts without a hissin'. lol
Ghost in heat and howlin' all over the place especially in the Catio cage.
I try to pet her as she goes by, she's fast and I have to be faster and I am .
When she gets old she won't move as fast but neither will I haha.
Only time I can get near is when I have the food dish, she will glare at me but stay put and I dare not make a sudden move.
Ghost gives me patience that I do not have with growing weed yet.

Got my grow stuff today and wow the ion side lights are really nice.
I took some pic's of the unboxing.
Very good quality and well built. The light bars are heavy, maybe couple of lbs.
I see there is no controller that controlls the light intensity, I guess you buy that seperate.
When I plug it in it's 100%.
I checked one to see how bright and it is super bright unlike my other ones I used last grow.
Here's some pic's of it. I brought from Amazon for $89.
Very well packaged.



The mangnetic mounts (attaches to tent by putting mount on outside of tent fabric or to tent poles or screw in a wall)

Kuwl said:

Got my grow stuff today and wow the ion side lights are really nice.
I took some pic's of the unboxing.
Very good quality and well built. The light bars are heavy, maybe couple of lbs.
I see there is no controller that controlls the light intensity, I guess you buy that seperate.
When I plug it in it's 100%.
I checked one to see how bright and it is super bright unlike my other ones I used last grow.
Here's some pic's of it. I brought from Amazon for $89.
Very well packaged.
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The mangnetic mounts (attaches to tent by putting mount on outside of tent fabric or to tent poles or screw in a wall)
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Nice little bars there from aci..
Ive looked into them many times when they first came out...
Love aci products personally..
There customer service is legit top knotch imo..
One of the best ive came across..

With that said, i was just informing u that the ion beams come with a digital controller...
Its the small rectangular box in the bottom right side of ur picture #5 from ur post..

If u want a more advanced controller to run threw aci app u gotta buy that separately..

Dont post much cause im not growing currently but wanted to maybe help ya out on letting u no how to control the intensity of lights..
Nice score..

BigTerps said:

Nice little bars there from aci..
Ive looked into them many times when they first came out...
Love aci products personally..
There customer service is legit top knotch imo..
One of the best ive came across..

With that said, i was just informing u that the ion beams come with a digital controller...
Its the small rectangular box in the bottom right side of ur picture #5 from ur post..

If u want a more advanced controller to run threw aci app u gotta buy that separately..

Dont post much cause im not growing currently but wanted to maybe help ya out on letting u no how to control the intensity of lights..
Nice score..

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Thanks, I didn't unpack it yet, left in the bags, so I thought I didn't have any control over the light.
Now I gotta go check it out lol.

Kuwl said:

Thanks, I didn't unpack it yet, left in the bags, so I thought I didn't have any control over the light.
Now I gotta go check it out lol.

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Hey, I have them but I don't use the controller. I see no point they are not all that powerful @ 42 w and and I don't know when you'd use less than 100% power.This is my first run with them, they put out some good light but it fades fast after 10-12" away there's not much effect from them but the small buds close are harder than normal without the lights at least on this run.

Pipecarver said:

Hey, I have them but I don't use the controller. I see no point they are not all that powerful @ 42 w and and I don't know when you'd use less than 100% power.This is my first run with them, they put out some good light but it fades fast after 10-12" away there's not much effect from them but the small buds close are harder than normal without the lights at least on this run.

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I used SF Glow30 32w sidelights last grow and I believe they helped the lower buds cause they looked larger and harder than without the side lights
or it coulda been a coincidence. I had them about 6" or less, tight up on them. I think they help that's why I doubled down and bought the ion's.
Ya prob won't use the controller on it either.
Man, if I had a nickel for every trick I tried that had no effect on my plants, I'd be rich lol but what fun it is to experiment on these lovely plants.

Plants all up and running but for one Runtz that has a curly tail root,
with no staulk, but has leaves that are barely above ground.
I used some backup seeds to make sure.
So that's why the extra Runtz but no extra TD.
One of the Tangi seeds did not germ or is extra slow.
2 WT's, 1 SDH, 1AHLJ and 2 Runtz but one might not make it or is not strong enough, we'll see.
The 3 backup seeds were soaked in a glass of water overnight them put in damp paper towels
till the next day and all had legs. Either way worked for me but I seem to like
the paper towel method better than sticking in the dirt.
Both work, but seeing the tap root is some how more satifying to me.

Last grow was the first time using the new MH FC 8000 EVO, it's a strong light and that might be one reason my
lower buds were bigger. I believe the sidelights do help to an extent but not sure how much or is it worth
the price tag. I brought the ion's because of the low wattage @ 42w. The Vivosun lumaray side/under canapy
light was 100w and much larger, one piece and more expensive ($109) to buy and run.
I got my SF 4 peice sidelights (32w) I think I will use them both on one side of the grow.
Maybe that way I'll see the difference.

Took out the one short Runtz and found the tap root did not develope. stunted, corkscrewed and was a little hard. The other looks normal but behind a week. Other than that everythings hunky dory.

The twins follow me into the cellar and wander about when I go into the "room".
When they get bigger they gonna bust through, lol.

I'm using Google AI, more and more.
Lately, it's soil that I'm researching, mainly I'm changing nutes and the base pot mix.
I've never used SSM #4 but visually it's different with more perlite and looks much darker
than Pro Mix but similar to Mother Earth Groundswell. When I used MEG, I was making a lot of mistakes.
After a few searches I am thinking this one might be best for me.

Sunshine Mix #4: 6 gallons (60%)

Perlite: 2 gallons (20%)

Worm Castings: 2 gallons (20%)

Compost: 0.5 gallon (5%)

I like this mix and will be mixing it up today,
had to order another bag of worm castings, I had everything else.

This is my last grow with Sunshine Mix #4. I ran out finally. Store around here don’t carry it anymore. I had to get ProMix.

I never added any extra perlite. The rest I use just in different amounts. I’m finding it’s a bit tricky to get the nutes right for some strains but I like it better than liquid so far.

Looking forward to see how yours does.

Kuwl said:

Took out the one short Runtz and found the tap root did not develope. stunted, corkscrewed and was a little hard. The other looks normal but behind a week. Other than that everythings hunky dory.

The twins follow me into the cellar and wander about when I go into the "room".
When they get bigger they gonna bust through, lol.

I'm using Google AI, more and more.
Lately, it's soil that I'm researching, mainly I'm changing nutes and the base pot mix.
I've never used SSM #4 but visually it's different with more perlite and looks much darker
than Pro Mix but similar to Mother Earth Groundswell. When I used MEG, I was making a lot of mistakes.
After a few searches I am thinking this one might be best for me.

Sunshine Mix #4: 6 gallons (60%)

Perlite: 2 gallons (20%)

Worm Castings: 2 gallons (20%)

Compost: 0.5 gallon (5%)

I like this mix and will be mixing it up today,
had to order another bag of worm castings, I had everything else.

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The worm castings & compost only work in veg, our synthetic nutes kill off the microbs so says Google so my final pot soil with be just My VPW30 and perlite, no point wasting it if I'm just killing it. Once I'm out of solo cups my plants take off, I don't know how folks grow monsters in them cause mine start to stunt if I don't transplant out of them early, like 10 -14 days. I feel a sense of relief once I transplant to 1 gal pots. I have 2 that are 10 days older than the rest but now they have been up potted they should catch up fast

Pipecarver said:

The worm castings & compost only work in veg, our synthetic nutes kill off the microbs so says Google so my final pot soil with be just My VPW30 and perlite, no point wasting it if I'm just killing it. Once I'm out of solo cups my plants take off, I don't know how folks grow monsters in them cause mine start to stunt if I don't transplant out of them early, like 10 -14 days. I feel a sense of relief once I transplant to 1 gal pots. I have 2 that are 10 days older than the rest but now they have been up potted they should catch up fastView attachment 117943

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So in the final transfere to the AP's, use only perlite and SSM #4, in my case?
No other soil ammendments?
I guess the GH nutes will take care of all their needs once it's turned on.
Makes sense. I usually still do the full mix but now I see what you mean.

How old are your veg plants now?

Hope it's all good with your cat.
I had a prob with Shady awhile ago with a hairball and he hid and was lathargic
and I was so sick and worried about that cat being sick.
Not the same sickness for Q, I know, but hope it's just a cold or something like that.
I was really close to taking him in to the vet but he got better overnight and I was so relieved.
Funny how pets have "that" affect on you.


These twin tabby cats!

Kuwl said:

So in the final transfere to the AP's, use only perlite and SSM #4, in my case?
No other soil ammendments?
I guess the GH nutes will take care of all their needs once it's turned on.
Makes sense. I usually still do the full mix but now I see what you mean.

How old are your veg plants now?

Hope it's all good with your cat.
I had a prob with Shady awhile ago with a hairball and he hid and was lathargic
and I was so sick and worried about that cat being sick.
Not the same sickness for Q, I know, but hope it's just a cold or something like that.
I was really close to taking him in to the vet but he got better overnight and I was so relieved.
Funny how pets have "that" affect on you.


These twin tabby cats!

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Ya that's what the Ai says. I kinda knew that synthetics weren't good for Organics but eh. When I see it in black and white answering my question I thought well wtf why add more of my minerals and organics to soil that my nutes are going to kill or at least not co- habitat together well. The minerals I'm adding work well in veg because I don't feed much, Just Rapid Start for now and that's at only 1-2ml/gal. I'll get these in the AP's 2-3 weeks from now I'm thinking that's be a month for 4 of them and 5-6 weeks for 2 Strawberry Purps. I'm real late getting this batch started

Qnight is still not right, hes trying, he comes to me for morning rubs and he was outside this am. I called him in and he came a running but again hes in our bed and not out harassing the other 2 boys. Its a lot more peaceful but my boys sick and I need him better. I've brought him down here the last 3 nights and instead of up prowling hes sleeping on a bed I have made up. Its my soil mixing tub with lid, his black bed covered in a black faux leather cover along side my desk and chair.

When we were at the vets I noticed a sign saying If this sign is lit please quietly respect privacy....I almost lost it there.....If it had of been lit I'm not sure how I'd deal with it. I had my sick boy in his bag and the thought.....is more than my feeble addled mind can handle.

Pipecarver said:

Ya that's what the Ai says. I kinda knew that synthetics weren't good for Organics but eh. When I see it in black and white answering my question I thought well wtf why add more of my minerals and organics to soil that my nutes are going to kill or at least not co- habitat together well. The minerals I'm adding work well in veg because I don't feed much, Just Rapid Start for now and that's at only 1-2ml/gal. I'll get these in the AP's 2-3 weeks from now I'm thinking that's be a month for 4 of them and 5-6 weeks for 2 Strawberry Purps. I'm real late getting this batch started

Qnight is still not right, hes trying, he comes to me for morning rubs and he was outside this am. I called him in and he came a running but again hes in our bed and not out harassing the other 2 boys. Its a lot more peaceful but my boys sick and I need him better. I've brought him down here the last 3 nights and instead of up prowling hes sleeping on a bed I have made up. Its my soil mixing tub with lid, his black bed covered in a black faux leather cover along side my desk and chair.

When we were at the vets I noticed a sign saying If this sign is lit please quietly respect privacy....I almost lost it there.....If it had of been lit I'm not sure how I'd deal with it. I had my sick boy in his bag and the thought.....is more than my feeble addled mind can handle.

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My sprouts are only a week old and they had some very light green at the middle of the plant, I put 1 ml RS in a gal. + 1 ml Micro = 250ppm and watered them down.
They did not need watering as the soil was very damp.
They looked better today with more even green.
Man I will be happy when they are out of the cups.
I do a 2wk/solo's +2wk/Gpots+2 week in final AP pots but don't turn on the system.
The last 2 weeks in the AP pots sit in the pans to start them feeding from bottom up.

Your veg plants alway look great, big and leafy.