A new dawn.

[stonemason]

Yes it all makes sense. Like the lady, I don't want to ingest the Everclear, and find the hot coffee evaporates most of it. I have looked into reclaiming the alcohol, but for the small amount I need, its one machine less to buy and store. And if the Ethanol works it will quarter the cost. I currently evaporate on the house radiators.

Nice I bet those radiators work perfect.nice and slow

 

[Chemistry]

Nice I bet those radiators work perfect.nice and slow

Yes, works just fine, just got to remember you put them on there, or you end end up with a black dot in the middle of the jar.

 

[Chemistry]

Good morning tokers and growers, how are you all on this dark and very rainy morning, hope your all well. The results on the two alcohols are in, both tested by a group of fearless buddies over the past week. ( guinea pigs )

The Jars. Both jars were made up at the same time, and both spent a month in the fridge part of the fridge freezer, the part you keep your milk, that way when ever you open and close the door the jars get a shake, saves having to stir them, easy life or what.


First up is the Ethanol jar. Still using the Muslin cloth as a filter as I think its streets ahead of the coffee filters, the coffee filters seem to soak up the stuff we want to keep, where as the Muslin doesn't soak up as much of the alcohol when first pored into the filter, my thinking is that the stuff we want to keep is in that first pour as its been released from the bud, and is heavier than the alcohol, so is sat at the bottom of the jar rather than floating around suspended in the alcohol. And I've also had a better hit from the Muslin strained jars. I came to this conclusion after straining two identical jars, one strained through a coffee filter and the other through the Muslin.



One difference between the two jars, was the greenness of the Ethanol compared to the Everclear. You would think that the Ethanol being a higher octane, that it would be a darker brown liquid like the Everclear straight from the jar, but as you can see from the pics, it came out filtered a more green colour, this as it was evaporated down to the four dropper bottles I use to store and meter out my chosen dose, became the brown coloured liquid I'm accustomed too.



Next up, the Everclear jar. You can see the browner colour in the filter jar compared to the Ethanol based liquid.


I wasn't put off by the colour, as I drop my green dragon into a cup of hot coffee, which cooks every thing and evaporates a fair bit of the alcohol off, if not all. Feed back from the guinea pigs said there was no difference in hit, and that the Ethanol had a cleaner less harsh taste when added to a good quality coffee, which I agree with. From an evaporating point, the Ethanol evaporated twice as fast as the Everclear, which is a handy thing to know, don't know if it will help anyone, but if it speeds up the evaporating process, then its a good thing, Further experimentation has been asked for by the guinea pigs, with the two jar experiment being run with the Do Si Do I grew with the Pineapple just to see if there is any difference. I like folk that are keen. So I'll set up a couple of jars with the Do Si Do, jeeze I pamper my guinea pigs. I won't put it up on here as I think you have had enough of alcohol jars by now. I don't know if these posts will help anyone other than the guinea pigs getting battered for free, or myself, but if it helps just one person who is on the edge of having to give up our beloved cannabis due to lung problems, then it is worth posting, and its an easy method with little or no out lay if you have jars laying about, and if you race cars, then you most likely have gallons of Ethanol sat in your garage. So it looks like the Do Si Do is getting the dragon treatment next, and we'll see what the testers think of that. I'm hoping to get a grow going soon, havn't a clue when. Cleaned out the grow room, got the seeds chosen, just need the time to fire it up. And that's where the cannabis world of Chemistry is at the moment, so until next time, just keep tokin folks.

 

[Zen_seeker]

Good morning tokers and growers, how are you all on this dark and very rainy morning, hope your all well. The results on the two alcohols are in, both tested by a group of fearless buddies over the past week. ( guinea pigs )

The Jars. Both jars were made up at the same time, and both spent a month in the fridge part of the fridge freezer, the part you keep your milk, that way when ever you open and close the door the jars get a shake, saves having to stir them, easy life or what.
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First up is the Ethanol jar. Still using the Muslin cloth as a filter as I think its streets ahead of the coffee filters, the coffee filters seem to soak up the stuff we want to keep, where as the Muslin doesn't soak up as much of the alcohol when first pored into the filter, my thinking is that the stuff we want to keep is in that first pour as its been released from the bud, and is heavier than the alcohol, so is sat at the bottom of the jar rather than floating around suspended in the alcohol. And I've also had a better hit from the Muslin strained jars. I came to this conclusion after straining two identical jars, one strained through a coffee filter and the other through the Muslin.

View attachment 118319

One difference between the two jars, was the greenness of the Ethanol compared to the Everclear. You would think that the Ethanol being a higher octane, that it would be a darker brown liquid like the Everclear straight from the jar, but as you can see from the pics, it came out filtered a more green colour, this as it was evaporated down to the four dropper bottles I use to store and meter out my chosen dose, became the brown coloured liquid I'm accustomed too.

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Next up, the Everclear jar. You can see the browner colour in the filter jar compared to the Ethanol based liquid.
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I wasn't put off by the colour, as I drop my green dragon into a cup of hot coffee, which cooks every thing and evaporates a fair bit of the alcohol off, if not all. Feed back from the guinea pigs said there was no difference in hit, and that the Ethanol had a cleaner less harsh taste when added to a good quality coffee, which I agree with. From an evaporating point, the Ethanol evaporated twice as fast as the Everclear, which is a handy thing to know, don't know if it will help anyone, but if it speeds up the evaporating process, then its a good thing, Further experimentation has been asked for by the guinea pigs, with the two jar experiment being run with the Do Si Do I grew with the Pineapple just to see if there is any difference. I like folk that are keen. So I'll set up a couple of jars with the Do Si Do, jeeze I pamper my guinea pigs. I won't put it up on here as I think you have had enough of alcohol jars by now. I don't know if these posts will help anyone other than the guinea pigs getting battered for free, or myself, but if it helps just one person who is on the edge of having to give up our beloved cannabis due to lung problems, then it is worth posting, and its an easy method with little or no out lay if you have jars laying about, and if you race cars, then you most likely have gallons of Ethanol sat in your garage. So it looks like the Do Si Do is getting the dragon treatment next, and we'll see what the testers think of that. I'm hoping to get a grow going soon, havn't a clue when. Cleaned out the grow room, got the seeds chosen, just need the time to fire it up. And that's where the cannabis world of Chemistry is at the moment, so until next time, just keep tokin folks.

I follow along weekly. As I don’t have the fancy equipment some do pressing and dabs are out for me but new tumbler and your posts have offered new possibilities for me.

 

[Chemistry]

I follow along weekly. As I don’t have the fancy equipment some do pressing and dabs are out for me but new tumbler and your posts have offered new possibilities for me.

I built a keif tumbler from bits knocking around in my shed, used an old Mercades Benz windscreen motor to power it, I loved the hash I could produce from it, I even grew six old style indicas so I could make some really nice black hash. Thank you for taking the time to read my ramblings.

 

[Max]

No seeds, length of time it took to flower was a stoner mistake on my part, while cleaning my fan I knocked in four segments of my light timer right in the middle of twelve off, so this added a mass of time onto my flowering stage and confused the plants. Smells lovely, I think you'll enjoy it.

You will know nxt time when you see foxtailing and new growth happening.i hate those peg timers .love the look of the do si dos .just beautiful mate..some nice coneheads too Chem what you gonna run nxt…

 

[Chemistry]

You will know nxt time when you see foxtailing and new growth happening.i hate those peg timers .love the look of the do si dos .just beautiful mate..some nice coneheads too Chem what you gonna run nxt…

Don't know what to run next Max, I want to run a Chocolate Skunk by zero zero, but its a really old seed, and there is only one left, so will it pop, the other three I keep changing my mind. Aurora Indica I want to pop, so just got to make my mind about the other two and I'm off.

 

[Max]

I grew out aura indica on my very first grow and that got huuge..vegged it 8 weeks but.was a beautiful looking plant and great morphology and she wasn’t a light hugger . Bandits growing the chocolate skunk I think..

 

[Chemistry]

I grew out aura indica on my very first grow and that got huuge..vegged it 8 weeks but.was a beautiful looking plant and great morphology and she wasn’t a light hugger . Bandits growing the chocolate skunk I think..

The Aurora was the first plant I grew in a tent before I built the grow room, hoping this plant will be as good as that one. The choc skunk seed I have is over six years old, so may not pop, or my grow freaky, fingers crossed. Could do with out another light hugger.

 

[Chemistry]

Good morning tokers and growers, how are you all on this wet rainy morning, hope your all well. I didn't have a post for today, until I discovered a white pot, this is the white pot I kept all my home made hash in, and due to not being able to smoke it all before my lungs gave up, I had shelved it until I got cured, but as any one who follows my grow log knows, I didn't get to finish the job. Well, while having a tidy out I found the pot in amongst my hap hazard seed collection, Mmmm I thought as I popped the lid, and another experiment started to unfold. So what was inside the pot? Looked to be over a quarter of tumbled trykes ready to be molded into a nice hash, this was from the Amnesia Lemon I grew a while ago, which was a nice hit.



A quick rifle through the pot revealed a sixteenth of fine black I had produced, can't remember when or what it plant it came from, so if anyone with a better memory than mine can remember, feel free to chip in.



There's not enough black for me to do anything with, so its been given to a good buddy that's helped me out on a few jobs, enjoy bud. On the scales with out the black, not the best of pics, there was 9.1 grams of unsorted hash discounting the bit of black.



Back to the experiment. I decided to use a quarter of the unfinished hash to produce some green dragon for coffee use.


So what do drop it into? Everclear or Ehanol? I went for Ethanol due to I have a near litre of it, and only 200ml of Everclear, yes I know, very scientific approach.


Added the Ethanol, not as much colour as I thought.


So I gave it a shake, think I preferred the unshaken jar, good job it has a month in the fridge to sort its self out.


So there you are ,what will happen to the quarter, will it melt into the alcohol, we will have to see over the next month, should be done three days before Christmas day, nice. Hope to get some seeds planted today, or maybe not, and as you all know, planting seeds is the easy part, but having the time over the next four months to grow them out is the hard part. Right, I'm off, chores to get on with, I'll keep shaking, you keep baking, and I'll post a couple of pics of the jar next week, until then, just keep tokin folks.

 

[Chemistry]

Good morning tokers and growers, how are you all on this seriously dark rainy morning, hope your all well. Late writing this as I had to help out a buddy for a couple of hours this morning, so a little bit behind. Starting with the quarter of keif in the cold jar, its not a pretty sight, if it was a coffee some one had made for you, you would tip it into the nearest plant pot while nobody was looking, poor plant, perhaps that's why people that make crap or cheap coffee always have sick looking house plants, so if your house plants look ill, then treat your guests to better quality coffee. There is a silt in the bottom of the jar, so maybe dust from the shaking process or keif that's not broken down yet, time will tell.

The Jar straight from the fridge.


You can see the silt in the bottom of the jar.


Only one thing to do, and that's give it a shake, you can now see that coffee in the house plant look about it.


On to some thing else. Finally got some seeds sorted out, and these are the seeds I'm going to run for this next grow.
First up is the Aurora Indica from Nirvana, a nice all round smoke, good hit, nice taste if you toke it, an all time favourite of mine over the years, and if you've not ran it before, then give it a go.




Chocolate Skunk is next in the line up, first grew this in 2019, so a bit of old seed. First grew it along side Moshman when we were on the farm, he grew the Autoflower version of it, and I grew the photo.




Gorilla Glue is my next choice, another legend that needs no introduction. Think it was a freebee, or gifted by a buddy. I remember this strain when it was cutting only option, back in the days of Mr Tight, a major inspiration to a wave of new indoor growers, don't know if he's still growing, hope he's fit and still at it.




Sweet Valley Kush. This is another old seed of about the same age as the Choc Skunk, so may also bomb out.




So we are off, seeds planted, not all are of an age quality and may not pop, but it won't be the first time I had to add lib, and we know it won't be the last, because that's just how I grow. There are people a lot more dedicated than myself, but after the best part of 20 years posting online on various sites and forums, I now treat it as a bit of fun, done the technical, scientific, and a whole bunch of fads and theories in the past, still interested in new tech and forms of growing, but now I just grow to amuse my self using the plant it and hope method, and find it less of a stress and more enjoyable. That's where team Chemistry is at the minute, first gear, and on the move. So will the stuff in the jar melt away? Will any of these older seeds pop, or even the newer seeds, well, you'll just have to nip back next week and find out, until then, just keep tokin folks.

 

[Beachwalker]

Pretty sure chocolate skunk from that breeder was one of the first things I grew when I got back into it in 15, unfortunately I can't remember it, hope it pops!

 

[Chemistry]

Pretty sure chocolate skunk from that breeder was one of the first things I grew when I got back into it in 15, unfortunately I can't remember it, hope it pops!

It was very popular around then, zero zero had some good strains, I remember it being a nice toke, nice taste too, can't remember what it looked like flowered out, don't know if I've any pics, if I can find one I'll post it. Did you rate the plant?

 

[Chemistry]

Found this pic, not the best, think its 2019, as I only used the camera for grow pics to stop my phone getting sticky, so all the pics show a 2015 date stamp, may have been earlier.


If this last seed does as well.

 

[Beachwalker]

It was very popular around then, zero zero had some good strains, I remember it being a nice toke, nice taste too, can't remember what it looked like flowered out, don't know if I've any pics, if I can find one I'll post it. Did you rate the plant?

I don't remember it at all if I'm honest, when I came back after quitting in 97 I was looking for real Skunk #1 which I had been growing previously, so I bought a lot of Skunk #1 and Skunk variants from various breeders and I'm pretty sure that was one of them

 

[Chemistry]

Good morning tokers and growers, how are you all on this dull foggy December morning, hope your all well. Well, all the seeds have popped, even the Chocolate Skunk, which, as I said, I have no idea when I bought these seeds, they are old, so I'm impressed that it has popped, a very good start on this strain. The other seeds have also popped and are pushing towards the sun. So all are off to a good start. The cold jar with the quarter of kief in it is still the same colour with the same amount of sediment in the bottom. I've attacked it twice with the coffee frother to stop it sticking to the bottom of the jar, don't know if this is better than stirring it the old fashioned way with a spoon, but if the tech is there, then we may as well use it. I'm not a big fan of rock wool, as it takes an age to compost, and as a gardener I like things that can be returned to the soil and vanish into nutrients, to feed either my outdoor garden or the local wildlife. But I was given these by a buddy who had them kicking around his green house, so we are growing in rock cubes this run. I've found rockwool to be brilliant for cuttings, but no so good for seeds, as I've had seeds sprout and get tangled in the wool, to the detriment of the seedlings.

I like to start my seeds in a cloche, keeps them damp. As you can see in the pic, the seeds are growing at a different rate to each other, the Aurora and Gorilla are the newest seeds of the four, in age, the Gorilla is the newest, followed by the Aurora, then the Sweet Valley Kush, and lastly the Chocolate Skunk, so we may have a seed age experiment to follow, some thing different I suppose. Granted, some people will have state of the art seed storage rooms, so their seeds won't suffer the same fate as mine, but I don't, mine are stored in a black tub with a plastic bag round it, and that is as high tech as I go.

The cloche. I was asked by a buddy why I grow in a vat of clay pellets. This is purely for drainage and to hold the pots upright when the plants become tree's.


A cloche of poppers, you can see the difference in growth rate.


Aurora Indica.


Gorilla Glue. Not the clearest pic.


Chocolate Skunk.


Sweet Valley Kush.


The Cold Jar. Not a lot to look at, still looks the same as last week, hope its a better hitter than a looker. This is the settled liquid.


The seedlings have popped, and the cold jar is still doing its thing in the fridge, two more weeks and I'll assemble the buddies (guinea pigs) for another testing session, and we will see how it turns out, don't you just love having willing buddies. And that is what's happening in this patch of the world, for another update, and to find out which seedling is top dawg, you'll have to be here next Saturday to find out, until then, just keep tokin folks.

 

[Chemistry]

Good morning tokers and growers, how are you all on this cold but very sunny Saturday morning, hope your all well. The seedlings have gone on a growth spurt this week, so much so that they are have been planted into their permanent homes. The Chocolate Skunk has not grown any at all, don't think it will make it unless it starts to make some sort of leaf growth. The other three are doing really well and are on their way to becoming the tree's we all desire. The Cold Jar has not changed since last week visually, still looks like a jar of stale coffee, So I won't bore you with another pic of it. Next week will see the jar strained anyway, and that's its month in the fridge done, that went fast, looking forward to testing it, just in time for Christmas. Lets check out this weeks pics.

Aurora Indica.


Sweet Valley Kush, looking a bit narly, good reason to use new seed maybe.


Chocolate Skunk. Doesn't look to have changed since last week, and definitely not keeping up with the other seedlings, the outlook is grim for this little popper. Don't know why its struggling, as normally if they pop the rock.


Gorilla Glue.


Group Shot.


While I was giving the Cold Jar a shake, it struck me that the sediment in the bottom of the jar may not be trykes, and may be sediment from dust or powdered leaf, and might not dissolve even if left for another month. We will have a firckle round in the sievings next week and see, I don't expect sieved trykes to be pure trykes, as there must be dust molecules the same size as the trykes that will pass through the sieve, next week we will see, might even drag out the microscope and have a look at the debris if I have the time. Short and sweet this week. If you fancy a firckle round in the sievings of the latest cold jar of green dragon currently living in my fridge, then you'll have to pop back next week and have a look. Also, will the Chocolate Skunk bring its self to push out a leaf, who knows, I will endeavour to bring you the answers. until then, just keep tokin folks.