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It's been over a year and finally able to get back to growing. Life decided to throw a curve ball at us but in the end, I think we crushed it.

Back in July of 2024 got news that I needed to move. I had inherited a home from my father after his passing and was 50/50 owner with my sister. She forced a sale and my family and I ended up moving up to Sacramento. Long story short we have finally got things together. Ultimately this is going to be a grow diary, but I wanted to share some pictures of the move and the new and improved grow room.

We had moved out of our old house back in January and started living with the in-laws for around 4 months while we waited for our home to be completed. We moved in towards the end of May in a newly built track home and got to work.

Day we moved in the garage looked like this. The goal was to turn our tandem garage into a grow room. Something the wife and I had been talking about for a long time.
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First things first, had to get the floor finished.
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Next step was to seal off the tandem garage and make a wall to for our new grow room. I'm not a wood worker, dry wall guy or door framer so please be gentle lol. This was our first stab at this type of work.
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Once the wall was up we moved some stuff into the new grow spot. Previously it had been hiding in our in-laws garage. Their neighbor is a LEO, and while a chill dude, we didn't want any unnecessary attention. We kept as many moms as we could, but were ultimately left with just 5 moms. We ended up planting a few seeds as well since I've been sitting on a few hundred. Also installed a 100amp subpanel for the grow room. I installed one in the garage of my last grow area and it was amazing.
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Now that we had our ladies back in our domicile more work was done to the wall. Added a layer of insulation inside the wall as well as finishing it. I didn't take any pictures once we dry walled it, but it's just dry wall. Also hung the door in the frame. That sucked. A lot.
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With the wall complete we started by adding more insulation along the walls of the flowering area. It was mostly with the idea of adding another reflective surface but doubles as a way to cover the window and provide even more insulation for the grow room. Also had an HVAC team come out and install a mini split for the room. HVAC guys were awesome, and it was very interesting chatting with them.
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Next step was building the growing tables. While they aren't the most space efficient, they do raise the ladies off the floor and provide a way for us to move them making it so much easier to do maintenance.
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Next up was wiring for all the lights. I actually like wiring and all that jazz so this was fun for me. Ultimately it ended up looking pretty clean. Got the lights hung and provided some killer outlet locations.
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So this brings us to roughly a week ago. We had some clones that we didn't need, and while we weren't completely done with the room (still have fans, and other various things to install still) the girls were getting to big. Decided to give the room a test run with the extra ladies and see how it goes.
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Transplanted the girls into 3g pots and gave them a week to figure it out lol.

Next post will catch us all the way up.
 
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Now for the grow part of the grow lol.

We flipped them to flower last Friday, 9/12/25, and the ladies have been off to the races. We have 4 Dante's infernos, a single Grape Gas, 3 Donnie Burgers and 3 Glitter Bombs. Placed some trellis nets down and have been try to keep the height manageable. The Dante's and Donnie Burgers were bigger than what we wanted when we sent them to flower but eh...

Here are some pictures from Sunday. Will get some more tonight when the lights flip on.
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Did forget to PH the water once and well the girls let us know. :/

PPFD: 400-450
RH%: 70-75
Temp: 78-80 lights on and 74 lights off
VPD: 0.9 - 1.1
PPM: 820
 
It's been over a year and finally able to get back to growing. Life decided to throw a curve ball at us but in the end, I think we crushed it.

Back in July of 2024 got news that I needed to move. I had inherited a home from my father after his passing and was 50/50 owner with my sister. She forced a sale and my family and I ended up moving up to Sacramento. Long story short we have finally got things together. Ultimately this is going to be a grow diary, but I wanted to share some pictures of the move and the new and improved grow room.

We had moved out of our old house back in January and started living with the in-laws for around 4 months while we waited for our home to be completed. We moved in towards the end of May in a newly built track home and got to work.

Day we moved in the garage looked like this. The goal was to turn our tandem garage into a grow room. Something the wife and I had been talking about for a long time.
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First things first, had to get the floor finished.
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Next step was to seal off the tandem garage and make a wall to for our new grow room. I'm not a wood worker, dry wall guy or door framer so please be gentle lol. This was our first stab at this type of work.
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Once the wall was up we moved some stuff into the new grow spot. Previously it had been hiding in our in-laws garage. Their neighbor is a LEO, and while a chill dude, we didn't want any unnecessary attention. We kept as many moms as we could, but were ultimately left with just 5 moms. We ended up planting a few seeds as well since I've been sitting on a few hundred. Also installed a 100amp subpanel for the grow room. I installed one in the garage of my last grow area and it was amazing.
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Now that we had our ladies back in our domicile more work was done to the wall. Added a layer of insulation inside the wall as well as finishing it. I didn't take any pictures once we dry walled it, but it's just dry wall. Also hung the door in the frame. That sucked. A lot.
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With the wall complete we started by adding more insulation along the walls of the flowering area. It was mostly with the idea of adding another reflective surface but doubles as a way to cover the window and provide even more insulation for the grow room. Also had an HVAC team come out and install a mini split for the room. HVAC guys were awesome, and it was very interesting chatting with them.
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Next step was building the growing tables. While they aren't the most space efficient, they do raise the ladies off the floor and provide a way for us to move them making it so much easier to do maintenance.
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Next up was wiring for all the lights. I actually like wiring and all that jazz so this was fun for me. Ultimately it ended up looking pretty clean. Got the lights hung and provided some killer outlet locations.
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So this brings us to roughly a week ago. We had some clones that we didn't need, and while we weren't completely done with the room (still have fans, and other various things to install still) the girls were getting to big. Decided to give the room a test run with the extra ladies and see how it goes.
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Transplanted the girls into 3g pots and gave them a week to figure it out lol.

Next post will catch us all the way up.
Omfg ❤️

clean

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6F

Some pictures from tonight.

Put a trellis net up on the 3 Glitter Bombs and the lone Dante's on the table.

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Dante's are looking good. Stacking really well, hoping this trend continues for the next couple of weeks.

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Lone Grape Gas in the front surrounded by her Donnie Burger gals.
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Last up is the glitter bombs and the runt dante's.
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Temp: 79
RH%: 75
VPD: .89
PPFD: 550~
PPM: 800
 
8F

Upped the PPFD, dropped the temps and upped the VPD. Next steps are going to be adding some extra PK to the mix.

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Glitter Bombs and the one Dante's: The Dante's can really stretch but the Glitter bombs have been out pacing her and they were the smallest of the bunch.
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Donnie Burger's and the Grape Gas: The one that's looking a little droopy is a drinker. She's already chugging a good 2L+ a day. Under estimated how much she was drinking and she got a bit dry. Unfortunate. :/
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The Dante's: Been pushing these gals the hardest, averaging around 750PPFD for the last few days. They appeared to start budding at 6F, which seems very early, but we will see.
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Having so much control and consistency in the environment has been quite the learning. Being able to keep our target VPD range locked in 24/7 has really allowed us to push harder than we have been able.

Thursday we pushed the PPFD up quite a bit since the environment was locked in better. The girls have been thoroughly enjoying it. All of them are over 600PPFD on average.

Friday we dropped the temps a bit. We were pushing 80-82F and were curious, more than anything else, to see how they would respond if we dropped it to 76-78F. So far so good.

Combined with the increase in PPFD and a drop in temps we thought it would be smart to push the VPD. Target is now 1.0 - 1.2

Temp: 77
RH%: 70
VPD: 1.1
PPFD: 650+
PPM: 800
 
Hard to say for sure, but it looks like that Grape Gas might benefit from some epsom. Looking a little like a Magnesium Deficiency there.

Otherwise looking good man.

Question about that, is that based on the new growth or old growth? The old growth got beat up a little...

When I transplanted them I gave the girls a heavy watering, but did not PH the water for a couple of days. All of them were upset, the grape gas and one of the Dante's (one with the Glitter Bombs) took it the hardest. Water was clocking in at 7.6 PH. Adjusted the PH and haven't seen anything major. Tips are a little fried but been trying to figure that out for ever lol.

Made a new water last night and added 40ml of Purpinator. While not Cal/Mag, it does have some Mag/Sulfate in it. Run Jacks with A 3gr/gal and B 2gr/gal and no Mag/Sulfate use the purpinator as a lazy PK boost and mag supplement.
 
Question about that, is that based on the new growth or old growth? The old growth got beat up a little...
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When I transplanted them I gave the girls a heavy watering, but did not PH the water for a couple of days. All of them were upset, the grape gas and one of the Dante's (one with the Glitter Bombs) took it the hardest. Water was clocking in at 7.6 PH. Adjusted the PH and haven't seen anything major. Tips are a little fried but been trying to figure that out for ever lol.
I could see pH doing a number on them, so that makes sense too.

I'd keep an on on the new growth from her to see if the problem is persisting

I'm also not a soil guy so.... carry on 🤣
 
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Hmm, was looking at older pictures and there does seem to be some signs the yellow got worse. New growth looks solid, but if it's a Mg deficiency then the new growth would look good and old growth would show more of a deficiency. I was thinking about what could cause a Mg deficiency and realized we have been pushing them harder than we have in previous runs. I've seen people commenting that LED lights magnify Mg deficiencies and figured that might be it. We don't run the epsom in our Jack's sooo yeah, lol.

In any case they're going to be getting more Mg through the addition of purpinator. Curious to see how this plays out.
 
14F

Excellent bud growth for only 14 days in. Pushing the PPFD pretty hard now, most of the ladies are sitting at minimum 650 PPFD. PPMs are up slightly since we've started including 50ml of purpinator. Extra PK with a bit of Mg too. Also went from needed a humidifier to needing two dehumidifiers.
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Glitter Bombs and a Dante's: couple of branches that are really trying their best to touch the sun the Dante's and one of the Glitter bombs. Girls are sitting at around 700 PPFD. Some spots hitting 850-900 but for the most part 700+
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Donnie Burgers and the Grape Gas: Definitely a kamikaze in their midst as well. Once the stretchy ones are tucked this table can get a boost. It's sitting mostly around 650PPFD except that one branch getting like 1200. Once tucked will push them harder.
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Dante's: These girls are getting the gas. Pushing at least 750 PPFD and most spots sitting around 800-825. Gotta admit these bar lights are pretty killer. Props to Spider Farmer on this one. Really even distribution of light. IMG_9103.jpeg


Solid bud growth. Excited to see how these girls turn out.
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Temp: 77
RH%: 65
VPD: 1.1-1.2
PPFD: 650+
PPM: 850
 
23F

Since last update we've cleaned them up quite a bit more, upped the purpinator a bit and upped the PPFD. Temps and VPD have remained the same. Girls are getting a full 3L a day with about 10% run off.

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Glitter Bombs + Dante's: Glitter bombs are putting on quite a bit of resin. Buds are compact and dense compared to the dante's so far.
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Donny Burgers + Grape Gas: The Donny's stretched quite a bit more than the grape gas. The amount of vertical growth wasn't limited to the top branches. She just grows straight up in every way.
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Dante's Inferno: These girls are under a Spider Farmer 1000W bar light and I can't say more positive things about this light so far. First run so we will see in the long run, but for now amazing. These girls are going strong. One plant got a bit more out of control than the other two, but even so, the difference in PPFD between those tops and the others is around 100~. Excited to see how these girls turn out. They certainly seem to be starting some audacious looking buds. Hope they continue.
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We upped the PPFD on every table and most are sitting at around 800, while the Dante's is chilling comfortably at around 900+. Tips are lit on all plants. Might be pushing the purpinator a bit hard, not sure. Only using around 40% of max dose. It could also be due to the VPD being a tad high we think. In any case going to keep it here and see where we end up.

Temp: 78
RH%: 65
VPD: 1.1-1.2
PPFD: 800+
PPM: 850
 
28F On to week 4!

Everything has been looking great, only thing that's changed so far is dropping the temps a bit. Room before was sitting at 78~ with the lights on and 75 with lights off. We dropped it to 76~ with the lights on and 71 with the lights off.
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Glitter Bomb's and the Dante: Glitter Bomb's are starting to pack on some bulk as we start week 4. Calyx is starting to bulge out in spots. Table is sitting at around 900~PPFD.
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Donny Buggers and the Grape Gas: This table full of lanky girls. Grape Gas has a few towering colas that make getting the light even. Most of the table is sitting at 800~PPFD but some of those taller cola's are getting a full 1500. Hopefully not too much light stress there. The Donny's have always been lanky and this grow was nothing different. Putting on some solid bud growth. Golf ball looking cola's everywhere.
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Dante's Inferno: This table is going to be something. This is supposed to be a 70 day flower and we're sitting at day 28. Nugs are huge already and have just started packing on some bulk. Table is sitting at 950~PPFD in most spots with a couple kolas sitting at 1300~PPFD. Curious to see how those colas are going to do. Strains really supposed to be able to put out. Last time we ran it we got fucked by the heat and got some funky plants. No chance of that happening this time around.
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PPMs are up a tad due to the increase in Purpinator, sitting at 150ml or 5ml/gal~. Watering 3L a day and getting less and less run off. Girls are really starting to drink. Might have to figure out a way to give them a bit more water later on. 25gal of water gets us about 3 waterings lol. Keeping the VPD about the same as we have been, once we start week 5/6 we will drop it to 1.3-1.4~ to try to push it. We're banking on good air flow to keep us through this flower. Don't think we will drop RH bellow 50-55%.

Temp: 76
RH%: 65
VPD: 1.1
PPFD: 850+
PPM: 950
 
39F and we into the flop city time of the grow.
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Overall things are going well, think we pushed them too hard though. Brown pistils started showing up around week 5. Usually don't get those till the end of the run. In either case the girls are still looking great. A lot of time to pack on even more bulk.
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Dante's Inferno: These girls got hit the hardest by the brown pistil goings. But they are probably the largest and most developed out of all the tables. So maybe not? Either way they are huge, frosty and floppy.
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Glitter Bombs + Dante's: Dante's on this table didn't get hit by the brown pistils as much. Only thing different was less PPFD. That said, she's not as thick as the other table and not quite as frosty. The glitterbombs are turning into tight little bombs of frost. Man those girls can put on the frost show.

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Donny Burger + Grape Gas: Misfit table lol. Girls are pretty wild. Sticking them in the back light we did probably wasn't the best idea. They realistically need the most attention but because of their placement and our sheer laziness they don't get it. Got some of the claw going on those Donny's but they're packing on the weight nicely. Grape gas is just doing grape gas things.

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All in all, this was supposed to be a test run to see what we could do with more control over the environment and honestly, its been a success. Can see where we can make some fixes but ultimately happy with how things are going.

Temp: 75~
RH%: 60-65%~
VPD: 1.2-1.3~
PPFD: 950+
PPM: 1000
 
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46F
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We are balls deep in week 6 and getting close to the chop dates for some of these girls. Never found out what caused the pistils to turn brown early on, and never really recovered from it. The solo Dante's with the Glitter Bombs didn't get hit as hard as the other ones, but she is also less frost than the other ones. I'm leaning towards too much PPMs/PPFD. Either way, still think things are coming along well for a 'test run'.

Glitter Bombs/Dante's: Glitter Bombs haven't swelled too much but have become a bit more dense, and packed on the frost. Consistent in her bud size across the canopy. The sole Dante's is doing well, a bit of a victim of her own success. Got some floppy cola's, and fat nugs. She's got quite a bit of frost, but not as much as the GB or the other Dante's.
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Donny Burger's and Grape Gas: If there is one thing about this Grape Gas it's consistent. Nugs always appear the same size, dense and compacted with an overwhelming grape soda/fuel smell. This Donny is actually a different cut than we had run previously, and I'm not sure if it's really the #5 it was advertised as, but then again we got 3-4 more weeks. Cooked them a bit too. Otherwise big solid nugs.

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Dante's Inferno: Sheeeeeeesh.

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Overall this has been a great learning experience being the first grow in this new location and learning how to dial in the environment a bit better than previously. Not much has changed as far as the environment. Still running between 60-65% RH and temps are still around 76 with lights on and 72 with lights off. EC dropped a bit from 2 to 1.6. Think moving forward we won't push it as hard with the EC.

Temp: 75~
RH%: 60-65%~
VPD: 1.2-1.3~
PPFD: 900~
PPM: 800
 
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