First time with fungus gnats!

[2Bad]

Does hydrogen peroxide really work on the larvae ?

 

[Garbage_bear]

I dunno but this works 100% - https://www.amazon.com/General-Hydroponics-GH2133-Defguard-Fungicide/dp/B072LVMDWX

One or two treatments is all you need and you’ll never see those bastards again.

 

[Aqua Man]

No dont do that… get some BTI (mosquito bits) and some yellow stickies. Should be able to knock them down to next to nothing.

H2o2 is a terrible idea

 

[Aqua Man]

I dunno but this works 100% - https://www.amazon.com/General-Hydroponics-GH2133-Defguard-Fungicide/dp/B072LVMDWX

One or two treatments is all you need and you’ll never see those bastards again.

I dont think that will kill gnats… that bacteria is to prevent other bacterial and fungal infections. That specific brand is probably the best bang for the buck though. Very high counts and much more concentrated than hydrogaurd

 

[2Bad]

No dont do that… get some BTI (mosquito bits) and some yellow stickies. Should be able to knock them down to next to nothing.

H2o2 is a terrible idea

Do you mind explaining why it's a bad idea? I've seen it on google in multiple places that a diluted solution kills them.

 

[freezeland]

Do you mind explaining why it's a bad idea? I've seen it on google in multiple places that a diluted solution kills them.

I’m going to go out on a limb and say it would be detrimental to your soil’s bacterial colony. It’s primary purpose is to kill bacteria.

 

[Anthem275]

Do you mind explaining why it's a bad idea? I've seen it on google in multiple places that a diluted solution kills them.

H2O2 kills off everything both good and bad. It is also damaging to the root system of the plant.

 

[Aqua Man]

Do you mind explaining why it's a bad idea? I've seen it on google in multiple places that a diluted solution kills them.

If you dose high enough to even harm them you will kill every microorganism in your soil… in an organic grow that means no more nutrients…. Google can be idiotic you can find facts that the earth is flat on google to make my point

 

[Aqua Man]

Im gonna be blunt af to make a point… if anyone say to treat your soil with h2o2 they dont know wtf they are talking about and you should not take advice from them

 

[stonemason]

Peroxide will kill your microbes. Nematodes and sticky traps worked for me.i had them super bad .I also tried neem mill didn't work stunk bad. The bt nocked them back a little for me but didn't get rid of them completely, I think because I had them so bad.i used the the dunks not the bits so that could be where I went wrong.

 

[stonemason]

These things hamered them.

 

[GrowHobo]

Bti products work the best and cost the least. You can’t go wrong with them.

 

[Aqua Man]

Honestly bring me any fool who makes the claim H2o2 will cure your problem and ill make them look just that…. A fool.

IDK why this topic gets me so heated but its an absolute bunch if fucking bullshiit thats all over the web like cancer…. You have to understand what h2o2 is and how and what it reacts with. Do some reading on that and you will see it’s absolutely asinine for ppl to make the claim its an effective treatment.

Ok i need a beer and chill.

 

[Aqua Man]

Some reading for you bro with science not bro kind.

https://ipm.ucanr.edu/PMG/PESTNOTES/pn7448.html

 

[steamroller]

Mosquito bits FTW~!

Amazon.com

 

[freezeland]

Honestly bring me any fool who makes the claim H2o2 will cure your problem and ill make them look just that…. A fool.

IDK why this topic gets me so heated but its an absolute bunch if fucking bullshiit thats all over the web like cancer…. You have to understand what h2o2 is and how and what it reacts with. Do some reading on that and you will see it’s absolutely asinine for ppl to make the claim its an effective treatment.

Ok i need a beer and chill.

Someone say beetle juice, beetle juice, beetle juice?

 

[MDK]

Not trying to get ya heated @Aqua Man but I seen this posted by @SSHZ in the thread about russet mites.


1/4 cup Dr. Woods Peppermint
1/4 cup Dr. Woods Tea Tree
1 tablespoon hydrogen peroxide
1 cup rubbing alcohol, no higher than 70%
2 quarts warm water.

He said as long as it isn't in flower this is good

Not trying to start a battle, I just bought the Dr woods stuff...idk though if i should return it or what now thinking about it. Does this work with organic nutes/microbes and all that jazz or is it maybe better to use with soluble salt nutes?

 

[steamroller]

Not trying to get ya heated @Aqua Man but I seen this posted by @SSHZ in the thread about russet mites.


1/4 cup Dr. Woods Peppermint
1/4 cup Dr. Woods Tea Tree
1 tablespoon hydrogen peroxide
1 cup rubbing alcohol, no higher than 70%
2 quarts warm water.

He said as long as it isn't in flower this is good

Not trying to start a battle, I just bought the Dr woods stuff...idk though if i should return it or what now thinking about it. Does this work with organic nutes/microbes and all that jazz or is it maybe better to use with soluble salt nutes?

With the success I have seen against RM I would certainly give it a go.
SSHZ is solid IMO.
And we all need to look outside the box with RM.
They are Brutal~!

 

[Aqua Man]

Not trying to get ya heated @Aqua Man but I seen this posted by @SSHZ in the thread about russet mites.


1/4 cup Dr. Woods Peppermint
1/4 cup Dr. Woods Tea Tree
1 tablespoon hydrogen peroxide
1 cup rubbing alcohol, no higher than 70%
2 quarts warm water.

He said as long as it isn't in flower this is good

Not trying to start a battle, I just bought the Dr woods stuff...idk though if i should return it or what now thinking about it. Does this work with organic nutes/microbes and all that jazz or is it maybe better to use with soluble salt nutes?

Sounds reasonable… look at the dose of HP 1 table spoon in 2 quarts…. Its not whats doing the work there. And if you did just the HP alone at that dose it would do nothing and im 100% confident he would say the same thing.

Most online stuff with HP would be 1 tablespoon added to 3-4 tablespoons water…. Thats a huge difference

You need to look at the dose and a few other things… not just as simple as hydrogen peroxide

 

[Member Requested Deletion]

Honestly bring me any fool who makes the claim H2o2 will cure your problem and ill make them look just that…. A fool.

IDK why this topic gets me so heated but its an absolute bunch if fucking bullshiit thats all over the web like cancer…. You have to understand what h2o2 is and how and what it reacts with. Do some reading on that and you will see it’s absolutely asinine for ppl to make the claim its an effective treatment.

Ok i need a beer and chill.

Right on @Aqua Man Gets me heated too, So much Bullshit to go thru

 

[MDK]

Sounds reasonable… look at the dose of HP 1 table spoon in 2 quarts…. Its not whats doing the work there. And if you did just the HP alone at that dose it would do nothing and im 100% confident he would say the same thing.

Most online stuff with HP would be 1 tablespoon added to 3-4 tablespoons water…. Thats a huge difference

You need to look at the dose and a few other things… not just as simple as hydrogen peroxide

Right on I was just going to use it as prevention and lightly spray every couple weeks just to do something (currently doing nothing lol). I was more concerned with the isopropyl to be honest. My friend here in stl has been adding a pinch of peroxide to his cloner, seems to be working for him.....so far....but it's a very light dosage I think like 3 mL per gallon or something

I don't know exactly why he is doing it I think he said it keeps the water from getting funky but he is more noob than me so I don't just jump right in on his recommendations usually do some digging....I listen tho (to everyone and consider what they say), never know when a good tip will pop out

 

[Aqua Man]

I should

Right on I was just going to use it as prevention and lightly spray every couple weeks just to do something (currently doing nothing lol). I was more concerned with the isopropyl to be honest. My friend here in stl has been adding a pinch of peroxide to his cloner, seems to be working for him.....so far....but it's a very light dosage I think like 3 mL per gallon or something

yeah at 3% thats a reasonable dose… in hydro or a cloner we are not growing organic and actually using it to kill microorganisms. It dissipates extremely fast so its dosed every 2-3 days.

How it works in that case is you add and it knock the population down but dissipates in a few hours. As microbes start to rebuild right after that we dose again in 2-3 days and knock it back down.

Thats how hydrogen peroxide works in his case. It’s extremely short lived and reacts with living and dead organics.

You so not want to do this in soil and it would take a ton to kill them off but in all likelihood you will kill everything else off long before you kill the gnats then your left with gnats and no microbes

 

[MDK]

I should

yeah at 3% thats a reasonable dose… in hydro or a cloner we are not growing organic and actually using it to kill microorganisms. It dissipates extremely fast so its dosed every 2-3 days.

How it works in that case is you add and it knock the population down but dissipates in a few hours. As microbes start to rebuild right after that we dose again in 2-3 days and knock it back down.

Thats how hydrogen peroxide works in his case. It’s extremely short lived and reacts with living and dead organics.

You so not want to do this in soil and it would take a ton to kill them off but in all likelihood you will kill everything else off long before you kill the gnats then your left with gnats and no microbes

Right on makes sense. I just upgraded to a aero cloner today from just using some peat pellets and clone x so I need to get up on that knowledge a bit

 

[Aqua Man]

Right on makes sense. I just upgraded to a aero cloner today from just using some peat pellets and clone x so I need to get up on that knowledge a bit

Change the water every 2-3 days with tap and you can skip adding peroxide if you like… the chlorine/chloramine from tap will be sufficient if changing the water out that often

 

[freezeland]

Change the water every 2-3 days with tap and you can skip adding peroxide if you like… the chlorine/chloramine from tap will be sufficient if changing the water out that often

There is a hack out there to make your own clear rez on the web or YouTube. Then you can run the cloner a couple weeks if it’s a larger one that runs cooler and ph maintained.

 

[Aqua Man]

There is a hack out there to make your own clear rez on the web or YouTube. Then you can run the cloner a couple weeks if it’s a larger one that runs cooler and ph maintained.

Yeah lots of options out there for that. Is it an aerocloner? If so the temp regulation has a lot to do with the pump timer settings. There is a lot of misinformation out there on how long the intervals and on time should be.

You would be very surprised i think to know that 5-10 sec every 20 min should be more than plenty and that will keep your res temps pretty dam close to ambient or slightly cooler than ambient

 

[freezeland]

Yeah lots of options out there for that. Is it an aerocloner? If so the temp regulation has a lot to do with the pump timer settings. There is a lot of misinformation out there on how long the intervals and on time should be.

You would be very surprised i think to know that 5-10 sec every 20 min should be more than plenty and that will keep your res temps pretty dam close to ambient or slightly cooler than ambient

I run a ez cloner that has a 4 gal capacity when it’s filled. I should have added that clear Rez needs added every 5 days. I have never tried that hack mixture for it personally. I can afford clear Rez and it’s simpler for me to just buy Instead of mixing my own. I just mentioned it because it’s probably more effective than peroxide. I run my cloner 24/7. No intervals. I typically get 100% rooted in 10 - 14 days. Res temps stay 70 - 75.

 

[Aqua Man]

I run a ez cloner that has a 4 gal capacity when it’s filled. I should have added that clear Rez needs added every 5 days. I have never tried that hack mixture for it personally. I can afford clear Rez and it’s simpler for me to just buy Instead of mixing my own. I just mentioned it because it’s probably more effective than peroxide. I run my cloner 24/7. No intervals. I typically get 100% rooted in 10 - 14 days. Res temps stay 70 - 75.

Yeah those res temps are absolutely fine bro… sounds like you have a good process going there

 

[MDK]

Change the water every 2-3 days with tap and you can skip adding peroxide if you like… the chlorine/chloramine from tap will be sufficient if changing the water out that often

Ok cool, what you think about this...I run distilled water that 98% of the time has zero ppms....I've only caught it having some ppms (like 20 ppm) once or twice. So I'm not really trying to change that out every 2 or 3 days that'll get pretty costly/wasteful. My thought was the 0 ppms is gonna be a great starting point, but maintaining it (ideally I'd like to keep the same water in it for the whole cloning process so two ish weeks) will still be necessary....so I was thinking of just adding the peroxide from time to time. My buddy had the same RO water + peroxide here and there in his cloner over a month. Idk how clean it was by the end. He said it was clean but idk if he checked. Think with starting pure 0 ppms and just adding a little peroxide ever few days would be good? Can I check my ppms....like if they go from 0 to say 50 or 70 would that indicate bacterial growth (my mind says yeah)? Trying to figure a way to check the water...I guess that would be the way...to just test ppms and ph to make sure it's in range?

 

[Aqua Man]

Ok cool, what you think about this...I run distilled water that 98% of the time has zero ppms....I've only caught it having some ppms (like 20 ppm) once or twice. So I'm not really trying to change that out every 2 or 3 days that'll get pretty costly/wasteful. My thought was the 0 ppms is gonna be a great starting point, but maintaining it (ideally I'd like to keep the same water in it for the whole cloning process so two ish weeks) will still be necessary....so I was thinking of just adding the peroxide from time to time. My buddy had the same RO water + peroxide here and there in his cloner over a month. Idk how clean it was by the end. Think with starting pure 0 ppms and just adding a little peroxide ever few days would be good? Can I check my ppms....like if they go from 0 to say 50 or 70 would that indicate bacterial growth? Trying to figure a way to check the water...I guess that would be the way?

Yeah the RO will remove the chlorine and chloramine or at minimum almost all of it.

Dose every 3 days should be fine for as long as you have clones in there and likely more than a batch or 2.

You will want a small amount of nutrients like 100-150 ppm in that RO water for once the roots start.

Give them as little light intensity as possible just ambient room light you dont need a light for clones until they root. That is the key to super healthy clones.