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SSHZ does Captain RedBeard's "Biscotti Blonde" and Lit Farms "All Starz"..........
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Damn......if it wasn't for Shantibaba, I'd probably have chopped by now. He always said (as I've repeated 100X), "when you think the plants are ready, wait another week"...........this guy was breeding back in the beginning with Nevil in Amsterdam and knows his shit. And he's still selling seeds. Notice he still has the NL#5, among other interesting strains. I would grow any of these over Todd's (AG Seeds) in a second.
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European so you need to search the Euro pot threads......most are available. Shantibaba I believe is associated with Mr. Nice seed bank too, and there should be plenty of pic's from them, as they are a large bank that's been around a long time. I used to order things from there....but not sure they send to USA anymore. Try Overgrow, ICMag to start.......
Point is though, I can guarantee you are getting true old time 80's genetics, not the mish-mash others are selling.
Point is though, I can guarantee you are getting true old time 80's genetics, not the mish-mash others are selling.
Under the weather with a cold and cough but the chopping will go on- starting Saturday, I'll chop the All Starz. Then do the Biscotti on Monday, as I have my daughters birthday on Sunday.
A side note- can't help but think I have to do another Lit Farms strain this next grow- it deserves to be in the room, after 2 solid grows with their strains. This one actually looks a bit better then the Rainbow Marker last grow, but who knows how the high will be. Add in how tolerant they have been, as they breezed thru the pH issues I had- I own 8 or 9 of them so I'll have to decide shortly.
A side note- can't help but think I have to do another Lit Farms strain this next grow- it deserves to be in the room, after 2 solid grows with their strains. This one actually looks a bit better then the Rainbow Marker last grow, but who knows how the high will be. Add in how tolerant they have been, as they breezed thru the pH issues I had- I own 8 or 9 of them so I'll have to decide shortly.
And something to think about....
"Japanese physicist Dr. Kei Mori exposed plant life to two of the conditions of the original world ecology -before the Great Flood.
He grew tomato plants under a plastic dome which filtered the ultraviolet rays; and he increased the carbon-dioxide.
After two years, a cherry tomato plant was 16 feet tall, with 903 tomatoes on it. After six years, the same tomato plant was over 30 feet tall and had produced over 5,000 tomatoes."
"Japanese physicist Dr. Kei Mori exposed plant life to two of the conditions of the original world ecology -before the Great Flood.
He grew tomato plants under a plastic dome which filtered the ultraviolet rays; and he increased the carbon-dioxide.
After two years, a cherry tomato plant was 16 feet tall, with 903 tomatoes on it. After six years, the same tomato plant was over 30 feet tall and had produced over 5,000 tomatoes."
Cutting the All Starz tomorrow, day 65 in flowering. Breeder claims 8-9 weeks to finish, so I think I'm inline with everything. As I've previously stated, most everything Lit Farms does is bred to finish around 9 weeks or so. More than pleased with this one.
I'll check the trichomes on the Biscotti and decide if I want to cut that on Saturday or wait a bit. I've been using some UV-B daily in the room, and I really notice this packing on the resin at the end. Shame about the yellowing at the top of the canopy, my fault completely. Everything remain green below. Let's see how it smokes..........
I'm anxious to get everything done and finished and the new crop started before my hernia surgery cause I know it will be a long recovery with NO lifting for 4-6 weeks. I make my r.o. water upstairs and have to carry it to the basement, which is going to be a real hassle. I haven't figured out how or what I'm going to do yet.......
I'll check the trichomes on the Biscotti and decide if I want to cut that on Saturday or wait a bit. I've been using some UV-B daily in the room, and I really notice this packing on the resin at the end. Shame about the yellowing at the top of the canopy, my fault completely. Everything remain green below. Let's see how it smokes..........
I'm anxious to get everything done and finished and the new crop started before my hernia surgery cause I know it will be a long recovery with NO lifting for 4-6 weeks. I make my r.o. water upstairs and have to carry it to the basement, which is going to be a real hassle. I haven't figured out how or what I'm going to do yet.......
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I normally use Venerate, as a soil flush, which is extremely effective. But this crop I did not, for some reason. The yellow sticky traps were effective, as I really didn't notice the gnats flying around- just on the traps. Of course, I showed you the worst one in the room. lol I'll bomb the room when everything is removed, and clean the pot with hot water and soap before using them again, just in case. Deep in the winter, these little guys (and mites) are rarely an issue so the next grow will be cleaner.
Just finished chopping the 9 All Starz, and I saved the scissor hash for tonight during the Ohio St. game. But every plant was amazing, and below are a few pics of buds off of branches hanging.
Just finished chopping the 9 All Starz, and I saved the scissor hash for tonight during the Ohio St. game. But every plant was amazing, and below are a few pics of buds off of branches hanging.
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Yall get hammered with gnats huh? I get like 5 or 6 a grow lol
i actually think gnat larva comes with the promix.........i usually treat the it right away, before the seeds even sprout thru the soil. This time I did not and started seeing them about the 3rd week of veg. I put 1 yellow trap per pot, those kept it from getting out of control. So the trap I showed was about 10 weeks worth of gnats. That was the worst of the lot, some barely had any gnats attached at all.
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The pro mix i run comes preloaded with a biofungicide, i think that's half of why I don't have gnat issues.
Cutting since early this morning, All Starz is done and on 2nd plant of Biscotti. Disappointed it's so leafy, making this more of a chore. Looks great, smells great but a bitch to work with. Because these were so short, I did not do much of a defoliation- which I really regret. Doubtful I'll get all 10 done today.
"while a fungicide can indirectly help control gnats (particularly fungus gnats) by targeting the fungus they feed on, a standard fungicide alone will not directly kill adult gnats; the most effective method is to use a specific insecticide targeted towards the larvae stage of the gnat, often found in the soil where they feed on decaying organic matter."
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Your All Stars is fantastic!
I would have liked to see more pics of the Biscotti tho! Mine was not short, this could be because I scrogged? It also was not overly leafy, but I do defoliate like a wild child.
I really enjoy the buzz, hope you do too!
Again, I normally heavily defoliate every crop but didn't do it on the Biscotti since it was so short. If you have followed my grows over the years, you would have known that the Gavita led's generally keep everything quite short (and leafy) in the room. I'll definitely put up some Biscotti pic's today......andwhen I grow it again, I'll do a much better job with it since I'll know which way I want to go with it.
I should also mention these are extremely heavy yielding Biscotti plants........monster yields coming on these.
I'll need to trim these up better as they dry..... for right now, I'm just trying to get thru them. lol
I'll need to trim these up better as they dry..... for right now, I'm just trying to get thru them. lol
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Do you decrease light intensity at/near the end?
I've done a lot of experimenting with that over the years. These days I only do it when I have a plants or plants that are behind and I want to quicken things at the end. I think it slightly helps as it mimics the sun in the fall season. But if you do it too early, your yield could suffer.
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Mine arrived today also.
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do you ever use more than that at grows end? i'm asking because i have/had two spotters and am currently bombing/spraying/cleaning. i've used a pyrethrin bomb first in my attack.
Yes, when I have active mites in a grow, after the grow, i will spray the entire room down with Avid. I think it's the strongest stuff I've found to kill them. It's not good to spray on plants as it has a long life and you don't want to smoke it- but I mix it up and spray the floor and walls with it and it's quite effective.
So, clean pots with hot water and soap. I always use a new floor tarp each grow. Bomb the room, and the next day, I spray it all down with Avid. Avid is expensive, but on Ebay, you can get very small quantities for cheap and that's what I do. I have also used Floramite on occasion too. Mixing things up, will help in the long run so the mites don't get used to it.
I fought mites for years, now I rarely, if ever, see them. If I do, it will be in the summer, when the room runs hotter, Most come in by you carrying them in on your clothes or pets.
Mites during a grow is a whole different ballgame. I now use Venerate as a soil flush and Grandevo to spray the plants with. Keep humidity high, and temps low while removing any leaves showing signs of damage- those things alone will make a huge difference in the end.
So, clean pots with hot water and soap. I always use a new floor tarp each grow. Bomb the room, and the next day, I spray it all down with Avid. Avid is expensive, but on Ebay, you can get very small quantities for cheap and that's what I do. I have also used Floramite on occasion too. Mixing things up, will help in the long run so the mites don't get used to it.
I fought mites for years, now I rarely, if ever, see them. If I do, it will be in the summer, when the room runs hotter, Most come in by you carrying them in on your clothes or pets.
Mites during a grow is a whole different ballgame. I now use Venerate as a soil flush and Grandevo to spray the plants with. Keep humidity high, and temps low while removing any leaves showing signs of damage- those things alone will make a huge difference in the end.
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thanks man, i will for sure give the Avid a go... a google search showed me this place:
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$20 for 2oz.. says 2oz is good for fifty gallons of spray!!! wowzers!!!
i've spent more than that in bombs so far so i'll buy it!!
so far i've bombed with pyrethrin and the spayed with mineral oil dormant spray. i also bought a Etoxazole bomb and a Chlorfenapyr bomb, I haven't used them yet and i've never used either one but i was looking to swap it up like you say. and yeah i've already torn the floor pans out and removed all the containers from the house.
i kinda kept them at bay while growing but plants suffered and never completely got rid of them for over six months now. i believe i brought them in from a clone i purchased and never inspected or treated first.
right now i have no plants and want to nuke it the best i can.
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$20 for 2oz.. says 2oz is good for fifty gallons of spray!!! wowzers!!!
i've spent more than that in bombs so far so i'll buy it!!
so far i've bombed with pyrethrin and the spayed with mineral oil dormant spray. i also bought a Etoxazole bomb and a Chlorfenapyr bomb, I haven't used them yet and i've never used either one but i was looking to swap it up like you say. and yeah i've already torn the floor pans out and removed all the containers from the house.
i kinda kept them at bay while growing but plants suffered and never completely got rid of them for over six months now. i believe i brought them in from a clone i purchased and never inspected or treated first.
right now i have no plants and want to nuke it the best i can.
The key is identifying the exact type of mites you have.....if you can do that, I can tell you the best way forward. Some products only work for specific mites. Many, many times I've read people's comments that what they used was useless and did nothing. It's because they used something worthless to their problem. All mites are not created equal.
I actually moved my entire grow to another room in my basement when I just couldn't get a handle on them, and basically started fresh. It made all the difference in the world. Then a few years later, I wanted to move back in but my 2 Gavita's wouldn't fit in there. lol The rooms were shaped differently.
Theres also numerous products on the market that are identical or almost identical. I've found 3 citrus products that are all manufactured by different companies and are basically the same. Price differences would amaze you too.
Lastly, as I've said- I think Avid is the "last ditch" product. But it's not healthy and it stays in the plant for a long time.
"Avid is not a systemic - it is what they call "translaminar" which means that the spray soaks deep into the leaf tissue but does not circulate to leaves that are not sprayed. You should spray Avid on all leaves and stems, and the bottoms of leaves, too, if possible."
I have numerous friends that use it in veg, but not flowering, when necessary. And I won't smoke their stuff, as it's tests poorly and is unhealthy. But if you need to save the crop, and have no other choice- IMO it's the most effective thing, although I'm sure there are other products on the market used by farmers that are large food crop operators that are better. I ran an 875 acre organic farm for years and never used anything ( or had to) this serious or unhealthy.
I actually moved my entire grow to another room in my basement when I just couldn't get a handle on them, and basically started fresh. It made all the difference in the world. Then a few years later, I wanted to move back in but my 2 Gavita's wouldn't fit in there. lol The rooms were shaped differently.
Theres also numerous products on the market that are identical or almost identical. I've found 3 citrus products that are all manufactured by different companies and are basically the same. Price differences would amaze you too.
Lastly, as I've said- I think Avid is the "last ditch" product. But it's not healthy and it stays in the plant for a long time.
"Avid is not a systemic - it is what they call "translaminar" which means that the spray soaks deep into the leaf tissue but does not circulate to leaves that are not sprayed. You should spray Avid on all leaves and stems, and the bottoms of leaves, too, if possible."
I have numerous friends that use it in veg, but not flowering, when necessary. And I won't smoke their stuff, as it's tests poorly and is unhealthy. But if you need to save the crop, and have no other choice- IMO it's the most effective thing, although I'm sure there are other products on the market used by farmers that are large food crop operators that are better. I ran an 875 acre organic farm for years and never used anything ( or had to) this serious or unhealthy.
Stoney, check Grandevo..........I saw Rasta Jeff using this (Irie Seeds) so I purchased it and it worked very well. It's clay based, which is used as a transport medium and is safe to use up to the last day of flowering.
The main ingredient in Grandevo is a bacterium called Chromobacterium subtsugae strain PRAA4-1T. This is a microbial-based active ingredient that acts as a bioinsecticide, meaning it is derived from a living organism and is considered environmentally friendly.
Key points about Grandevo:
It needs to be constantly shaken as you apply it, to keep it well mixed. It often leaves a little grey film on the leaves too. But I assure you, it's perfectly safe for plants and buds- and it does not affect taste, bud quality or plant health.
These days, this is my go to when a mite problem shows up- and a thorough sprayping will basically end your mite problem. Of course, if you miss spots in the room and are not thorough enough, some mites may survive. But I've never had to apply twice. I like the fact it's natural and except for the room not looking as pretty, it's my #1 go-to. A few of my past grows, I've detailed my use of it with pictures, etc.
i'll add this too for additional info:
"When using Grandevo to kill mites, you can typically expect to see control within 7-10 days with repeated applications every 3 days until the mite population is managed; for preventative measures, spray on a 5-7 day schedule to prevent new infestations."
Again, I've never had to apply it twice.
The main ingredient in Grandevo is a bacterium called Chromobacterium subtsugae strain PRAA4-1T. This is a microbial-based active ingredient that acts as a bioinsecticide, meaning it is derived from a living organism and is considered environmentally friendly.
Key points about Grandevo:
- Active ingredient: Chromobacterium subtsugae strain PRAA4-1T and spent fermentation media
- Function: Used as an insecticide and miticide to control a variety of sucking and chewing insects
- Mechanism of action: When insects ingest the bacteria, it disrupts their digestive system, leading to mortality
It needs to be constantly shaken as you apply it, to keep it well mixed. It often leaves a little grey film on the leaves too. But I assure you, it's perfectly safe for plants and buds- and it does not affect taste, bud quality or plant health.
These days, this is my go to when a mite problem shows up- and a thorough sprayping will basically end your mite problem. Of course, if you miss spots in the room and are not thorough enough, some mites may survive. But I've never had to apply twice. I like the fact it's natural and except for the room not looking as pretty, it's my #1 go-to. A few of my past grows, I've detailed my use of it with pictures, etc.
i'll add this too for additional info:
"When using Grandevo to kill mites, you can typically expect to see control within 7-10 days with repeated applications every 3 days until the mite population is managed; for preventative measures, spray on a 5-7 day schedule to prevent new infestations."
Again, I've never had to apply it twice.
With that, I'd also purchase Venerate, another product Rasta Jeff uses. This I use as a soil flush, since mites often spend time in the soil. People often spray their plants, and don't do anything to the soil- and wonder why the mites keep coming back. I spray and flush at the same time.......It's my belief when you spray, a % of mites fall off into the soil. Spray first, then flush the pots well.
I've bought both items on Amazon in the past..........
I've bought both items on Amazon in the past..........
Just a quick update..........I still have 5 Biscotti's in the room, I'll chop them on Monday. I had my oldest daughter's birthday today and I was gone all day. Everything else is hanging in the basement, slowly drying (well, heat is running so maybe not so slowly).
I did sample the scissor hash of both strains on Saturday. Now, I've been sick the last 10 days with a cold and bronchitis, so I was not feeling good and actually felt like shit. I was totally unimpressed with the All Starz, while the Biscotti was quite good. But that's off a large pin heads worth of resin in a dirty bong. Truly not a fair review so I wouldn't put much into that. When things are dry, I'll do a real smoke test.
I did sample the scissor hash of both strains on Saturday. Now, I've been sick the last 10 days with a cold and bronchitis, so I was not feeling good and actually felt like shit. I was totally unimpressed with the All Starz, while the Biscotti was quite good. But that's off a large pin heads worth of resin in a dirty bong. Truly not a fair review so I wouldn't put much into that. When things are dry, I'll do a real smoke test.
