The Psyche Gardens

[Observer]

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[Observer]

Oo

 

[ninjadip]

Oo

Now we're fucking cooking!! Nice

 

[Observer]

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[Observer]

Growth has slowed I think mainly due to environmental factors, it's been under 75

 

[GoodShit97]

They look a little hungry too, but i know how photos can be lol

 

[Observer]

They look a little hungry too, but i know how photos can be lol

indeed, not the color i want them to be, a little too light green, want em darker.

got to be careful with how much more i can add because they are more "sensitive" in this environment

i added a little bit more NPK to this next 1 gallon

 

[Observer]

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Cold and low rh slowing growth mainly, i think.

Been under 75f and under 40rh here

Might put the ultrasonic humidifier back up

 

[Observer]

There we go.

 

[Observer]

I added this little hole too, maybe it helps a little with ventilation, maybe not.

 

[Zen_seeker]

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Cold and low rh slowing growth mainly, i think.

Been under 75f and under 40rh here

Might put the ultrasonic humidifier back up

We’ve been in that boat all winter. Soooo ready for spring.

 

[Observer]

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[Observer]

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Cannabis is considered a dicot*

 

[Observer]

Growth is slow

Don't like

Trying to fix

 

[Observer]

Variables fluctuating too much slowing growth I suppose, inconsistencies.


Or I just "suck"

 

[Observer]

The way the nozzles are facing, the direction and zone of the droplet size ranges, are now variables that play big roles, the on and off times....that also balance around environmental variables....heat, humidity, photon intensity.....airflow.....pathogens



More and more water adding to bigger droplet sizes, water hitting the lid of the tote, and combining and dropping on the roots same goes for the net cups....either too much or too little...

 

[Observer]

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[Observer]

Now they are a healthier color, after slight increase of PPM and moving the light up some clicks.

I might need to add another tiny pinch of Magnesium sulfate, based off that yellow central vein in the leafs.

 

[ninjadip]

keep sharing the journey and knowledge

 

[ninjadip]

The way the nozzles are facing, the direction and zone of the droplet size ranges, are now variables that play big roles, the on and off times....that also balance around environmental variables....heat, humidity, photon intensity.....airflow.....pathogens



More and more water adding to bigger droplet sizes, water hitting the lid of the tote, and combining and dropping on the roots same goes for the net cups....either too much or too little...

what is the on/off time now?

 

[Observer]

what is the on/off time now?

I'm staying around 3-4 seconds on, 6-10 minutes off , trying to account for environmental variables and changes, in correlation and balance to the water dripping off the roots.

as I think, by the time the next misting cycles, water should not still be dripping from the roots.

 

[Observer]

Now they are a healthier color.

I might need to add another tiny pinch of Magnesium sulfate, based off that yellow central vein in the leafs.

I will add another/ extra pinch of Magnesium sulfate to this next gallon, and see if that yellow vein improves.

 

[Observer]

New gallon plugged in

 

[Observer]

Gonna clean the nozzles again

And need to scrub the tote down again.

An ORP sensor would probably greatly help me with how much peroxide or calcium hypochlorous acid to use.

 

[Observer]

Not been able to get liquid orca yet.

 

[BlueCollarBob]

Now they are a healthier color.

I might need to add another tiny pinch of Magnesium sulfate, based off that yellow central vein in the leafs.

I enjoy following along as you work all this out. I don't have any experience to share, but my imagination has me "wondering" about a few things.

My imagination agrees with you on nozzle direction being important. Wonder what would happen if you were set up in a round vessel and aimed the nozzles to create a vortex like some of the hydro set ups?

A couple of questions on the pressure:

Is all of the pressure coming from the water pump pumping against resistance from the nozzle? Do you have a valve between the pump and nozzle to throttle back or open up while you're tweaking and looking for a sweet spot? Or, a way to regulate the pump?

Would it have a good/bad/nothing effect on the misting if you introduced air or oxygen into the line between the pump and nozzle?

Thanks for sharing all of the updates. Neat stuff, for sure.

 

[Observer]

I enjoy following along as you work all this out. I don't have any experience to share, but my imagination has me "wondering" about a few things.

My imagination agrees with you on nozzle direction being important. Wonder what would happen if you were set up in a round vessel and aimed the nozzles to create a vortex like some of the hydro set ups?

That's exactly what I started doing, slightly off center at an angle difference from the 2 nozzles, still thinking about adding 2 more nozzles, I'll need to when I add more plants anyways, I think.

A couple of questions on the pressure:

Is all of the pressure coming from the water pump pumping against resistance from the nozzle?

maybe that plays a role in the engineering? It's some sort of diaphragm pump, I've not researched how it mechanically works.

Do you have a valve between the pump and nozzle to throttle back or open up while you're tweaking and looking for a sweet spot? Or, a way to regulate the pump?

It's all in this little pump, no solenoids.
I'm using a digital programmable timer to adjust the misting cycles.

Would it have a good/bad/nothing effect on the misting if you introduced air or oxygen into the line between the pump and nozzle?

I would like to aerate my resevoir but currently not, but DO won't beat atmospherically available oxygen, unless injecting o2, making me think it's pointless besides stirring the nutrient solution, and don't think it'll matter too much if there's more DO in the solution because the roots are hanging in "air" , anyways.

Thanks for sharing all of the updates. Neat stuff, for sure.

Thanks man, I appreciate it. I dedicate a lot of time to it.

 

[Zen_seeker]

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Isn’t 8*F = -12*C?

That can’t be right?

 

[Zen_seeker]

I'm staying around 3-4 seconds on, 6-10 minutes off , trying to account for environmental variables and changes, in correlation and balance to the water dripping off the roots.

as I think, by the time the next misting cycles, water should not still be dripping from the roots.

Can you hang a sensor off a pot that will detect when the next spray should start?

 

[Observer]

Isn’t 8*F = -12*C?

That can’t be right?

82f/27c ~

 

[Zen_seeker]

82f/27c ~

Thought the broken 2 was an F. Duh

 

[Observer]

Fuck that 2nd video is vertical mb

 

[Observer]

Think I got them at better angles now

This might perform slightly better with creating a better average of smaller droplets hitting the roots and maybe help preventing overmist, and spraying the cups and underside of lid too much, which forms bigger droplets as the water molecules meet up lol.

 

[Observer]

Is all of the pressure coming from the water pump pumping against resistance from the nozzle?

Yes that and whatever mechanism is inside the pump and nozzles helpcreate the pressure, I think

24v pump think it's a "diaphragm" design, 70 psi

 

[Observer]

Now they are a healthier color, after slight increase of PPM and moving the light up some clicks.

I might need to add another tiny pinch of Magnesium sulfate, based off that yellow central vein in the leafs.

interveinal chlorosis.

This pattern is a classic symptom of magnesium (Mg) deficiency, which aligns with your earlier question about magnesium sulfate.

However, it's worth noting that interveinal chlorosis can also sometimes be a sign of deficiencies in other micronutrients like iron (Fe) or manganese (Mn).

 

[Observer]

Newer growth looks better, slightly.

increased PPMs and Mg

 

[BlueCollarBob]

It looks like all the effort and experimentation is paying off. Not a science-based observation, but the video showing adjustments you made to the nozzles just feels right. Neat stuff!

 

[Observer]

Some peppers

 

[Observer]

Around 100-250ppm (gotta calibrate my.e.c pen fk)

And 5.5-6.0 pH

Just base NPK and extra magnesium sulfate, calcium hypochlorous acid right now, calcium dichloride - 1 granual, it's strong stuff.

Once they get bigger or show a need, I can add some calcium nitrate

And I'd like to foliar the little ones with some kelp

 

[Observer]

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