Stoney's Luv Shack

[steamroller]

Most top at the 5th node.
You are there IMO.
Just pluck the center off one or two and you will see the difference.
I top all my plants, usually only once though.
Some top multiple times and then net the plant later.

Your plants look great man~!

 

[Bandit420]

man that thing is so freakin comfortable it's not funny, i finally got to use it today and it was the best my back ever felt after mowing!!!

now i just need vicki vallencourt to soup it up for me!!!!! haha



no man i never topped mainly because i don't know what i'm doing and long ago i tried all that fim and topping and that and it never seemed to make a difference. I've seen your technique a few times now and always wanted to try it but never have a plant at the right timing. so then i save your notes of it and say yeah i'll go back to that and look, well by time i remember to try it the forum shut down and i can't see it anymore. the last one i was banned and can't see the stuff i saved there either now. haha

you think i'm at a good time?, what should i cut? i thought it was like every other one but i'm not sure which one to start with... help me obi one!

bro that jerky was the best i ever made, i can't wait to try it again to see if was just a fluke or if that cure is the real deal. it will be days before i find out because i ain't waiting... in fact i think i'm gonna take a steak out right after i'm done writing this!! i gotta see what we have out in the deep freezer, i know there are some wings and few turkey breasts and i think a rack of baby backs, and i think a big hunk of top round london broil for jerky...

man i didn't know where to use gibbs, i knew i wanted to have him in a race but i really thought he would do good at the places nobody knew anything about.. i feel i missed the mark big time on that.. maybe i should have used tyler reddick for that.

i didn't see that part that was changed. i'll look for it though. i'm tellin ya man they all cheat!!! the problem is now there is too much money in it and nascar can afford to look over every car at every detail.

i'm not sure what i'm gonna do this weekend... i'm gonna be twitchin a little!!! hahaha

have an awesome weekend on vacation brother!!!!!!

I always called it Pruning For Growth because that's what it was called when it was taught to me but the internet renamed it Mainlining.
Being new to it, try it with one and see how it goes and if you're comfortable. It's not normal for most to attack a plant this early with some snips so you might have some hesitancy about it at first.
I prefer bonsai snips to do it over common scissors. Just the small tips have more precision and I also wear reading glasses to magnify where I'm cutting so it don't fuck it up.

Here's a rudimentary drawing of which cuts to make with the intact plant on the left and the cut plant on the right



It starts at the bottom single blade leaf and alternates cuts upward. If the single blade leaves are weak with no branching emerging, take both off and start the alternating cuts at the second node up.
When you take the top off you can take both sides or do an alternating cut at the top too. It's usually either or for me depending on the plant.

This is going to redirect the vascular system of your plants directing 100% of the energy into only the now 50% of the plant. After a day or two of shock and internal reorganizing, they take off like a bat outta hell in new growth from the remaining shoots.

Thru the rest of veg and into flower the plants will turn into bushes with a structure similar to two pitchforks crossed up. The goal is to pretty much make 4-5 main colas instead of just one.
Continue removing sucker growth from inside the canopy and lower regions. What you get in the end are skyscraper like colas, nice secondaries, quality below that, and next to no larf

Your trunks will look like antlers at the end and give you a clear picture of what those early cuts actually did to your plants

 

[Cool_Beans]

Good stuff Bandit

 

[Stoneyluv]

Most top at the 5th node.
You are there IMO.
Just pluck the center off one or two and you will see the difference.
I top all my plants, usually only once though.
Some top multiple times and then net the plant later.

Your plants look great man~!

i normally never do top unless i cram them in tight in veg and i don't get much side branching for a clone i would top them but other than that i never bothered.... i did this time though!! i pruned four of the six. i'm gonna wait a little before i trim the zangria, they could use anther node or two yet i think.

down the rabbit hole now!!!!!

I always called it Pruning For Growth because that's what it was called when it was taught to me but the internet renamed it Mainlining.
Being new to it, try it with one and see how it goes and if you're comfortable. It's not normal for most to attack a plant this early with some snips so you might have some hesitancy about it at first.
I prefer bonsai snips to do it over common scissors. Just the small tips have more precision and I also wear reading glasses to magnify where I'm cutting so it don't fuck it up.

Here's a rudimentary drawing of which cuts to make with the intact plant on the left and the cut plant on the right

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It starts at the bottom single blade leaf and alternates cuts upward. If the single blade leaves are weak with no branching emerging, take both off and start the alternating cuts at the second node up.
When you take the top off you can take both sides or do an alternating cut at the top too. It's usually either or for me depending on the plant.

This is going to redirect the vascular system of your plants directing 100% of the energy into only the now 50% of the plant. After a day or two of shock and internal reorganizing, they take off like a bat outta hell in new growth from the remaining shoots.

Thru the rest of veg and into flower the plants will turn into bushes with a structure similar to two pitchforks crossed up. The goal is to pretty much make 4-5 main colas instead of just one.
Continue removing sucker growth from inside the canopy and lower regions. What you get in the end are skyscraper like colas, nice secondaries, quality below that, and next to no larf

Your trunks will look like antlers at the end and give you a clear picture of what those early cuts actually did to your plants

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thanks brother!!! i might have seen you post that illustration before but it didn't really sink in till now. i think i messed one of them up but they'll live!



i upcanned all six watered them in with neptunes and trinity and put them under the 550's. they weren't overdue this time for the upcan but still ready for new homes.









i'll see how the zangria in the middle do over the next few day and prune them as well.

thanks again man, i love trying new things!!

 

[Bandit420]

i normally never do top unless i cram them in tight in veg and i don't get much side branching for a clone i would top them but other than that i never bothered.... i did this time though!! i pruned four of the six. i'm gonna wait a little before i trim the zangria, they could use anther node or two yet i think.

down the rabbit hole now!!!!!



thanks brother!!! i might have seen you post that illustration before but it didn't really sink in till now. i think i messed one of them up but they'll live!

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i upcanned all six watered them in with neptunes and trinity and put them under the 550's. they weren't overdue this time for the upcan but still ready for new homes.

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i'll see how the zangria in the middle do over the next few day and prune them as well.

thanks again man, i love trying new things!!

Man I sure hope it works for you and you like the results!
And don't think I don't see you flashing those killer airpot buttons!!! NICE!!!!

Hey speaking of trying new things, here's one I don't recommend



You've been to Japan though so IDK, maybe you have tried it. Swallow Nest Beverage. I tried it and now I feel weird and violated.
I was forced into the age old question I never thought I would have to answer, spit or swallow. I had to spit the swallow nest beverage. They should just call it spooge water but then I never woulda bought it.
So the swallow uses spit and mud to make a nest. Yeah... there's bird loogy and mud bits in there and you can really taste and feel it. The taste is no where near as bad as the texture though. Yeah, a drink with texture. Holy Fuck Balls.
They try to cover the flavor with copious amounts of sugar. Doesn't work. Or maybe it does but that texture was freaky weird and not letting me experience the flavor IDK. To sum it all up, gross.

But I wonder if it'd be good in a compost tea?

 

[Stoneyluv]

Man I sure hope it works for you and you like the results!
And don't think I don't see you flashing those killer airpot buttons!!! NICE!!!!

Hey speaking of trying new things, here's one I don't recommend

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You've been to Japan though so IDK, maybe you have tried it. Swallow Nest Beverage. I tried it and now I feel weird and violated.
I was forced into the age old question I never thought I would have to answer, spit or swallow. I had to spit the swallow nest beverage. They should just call it spooge water but then I never woulda bought it.
So the swallow uses spit and mud to make a nest. Yeah... there's bird loogy and mud bits in there and you can really taste and feel it. The taste is no where near as bad as the texture though. Yeah, a drink with texture. Holy Fuck Balls.
They try to cover the flavor with copious amounts of sugar. Doesn't work. Or maybe it does but that texture was freaky weird and not letting me experience the flavor IDK. To sum it all up, gross.

But I wonder if it'd be good in a compost tea?

i don't know if i should laugh or cry,,, so many things looks promising on the package... then that first taste and the feeling of disappointment because it's not what you thought it would be.... yup, been there way too many times!!!!!

but when it's gross on top of bad that just takes it to a whole new level... why they gotta do that, can't they put a warning...

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ran another batch of jerky tonight and that first batch was not a fluke... there is something about the cure that comes in the kit... stuff tastes un natural by itself so i'm not sure what it is but damn it makes some great jerky!!!!

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i dug a hole to bury uncle eddie in, that sounds wrong on a couple levels. haha i also picked up the few plumbing fittings and a valve that i needed to get everything hooked up. once i bury it in place i'll put the decal on.



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so it turns out the tether that came with my seahorse also fits the puffco perfect...



here's a double bubble milk shot under a black light...

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[Bandit420]

i don't know if i should laugh or cry,,, so many things looks promising on the package... then that first taste and the feeling of disappointment because it's not what you thought it would be.... yup, been there way too many times!!!!!

but when it's gross on top of bad that just takes it to a whole new level... why they gotta do that, can't they put a warning...

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ran another batch of jerky tonight and that first batch was not a fluke... there is something about the cure that comes in the kit... stuff tastes un natural by itself so i'm not sure what it is but damn it makes some great jerky!!!!

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i dug a hole to bury uncle eddie in, that sounds wrong on a couple levels. haha i also picked up the few plumbing fittings and a valve that i needed to get everything hooked up. once i bury it in place i'll put the decal on.

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so it turns out the tether that came with my seahorse also fits the puffco perfect...

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here's a double bubble milk shot under a black light...

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Man that is one crazy alien disco rig you built Dude!!!

Well after a lot of back and forth I opted for the Pulsar Dunk instead of a Seahorse man. Just the glass on the horse made me nervous but I'm really liking the dunk a lot. It can vape carts too and it came with a whip and glass adapter but I haven't used that part yet. It came with another glass piece I'm not even sure what it's for. I need to look at it but I think it's a freebie they included since it was outside the box.
I find I like the ceramic nozzle tips more than I do coil tips and I'm liking the button activation more than autodraw so I reach for it now more than the Boundless pens I have.
You inspired me though man so now I need to go thru my rigs and match one up to the dunk whip.

Love that sticker too man hahaha! Fucking hilarious!!

 

[Stoneyluv]

Man that is one crazy alien disco rig you built Dude!!!

Well after a lot of back and forth I opted for the Pulsar Dunk instead of a Seahorse man. Just the glass on the horse made me nervous but I'm really liking the dunk a lot. It can vape carts too and it came with a whip and glass adapter but I haven't used that part yet. It came with another glass piece I'm not even sure what it's for. I need to look at it but I think it's a freebie they included since it was outside the box.
I find I like the ceramic nozzle tips more than I do coil tips and I'm liking the button activation more than autodraw so I reach for it now more than the Boundless pens I have.
You inspired me though man so now I need to go thru my rigs and match one up to the dunk whip.

Love that sticker too man hahaha! Fucking hilarious!!

a buddy of mine likes pulsar a lot, he has a three or four of their electronics. thats awesome they sent you a free cap for your ROK though. imo, boundless ruined their portable pen with the terp pen. the cf710 is twenty times better and ya can't get em anymore! i never got the chance to try the xl because they discontinued that already now too. that was my selling point on lookah, i can remember them being around for a long time now. same with pulsar they were one of the first companies in digital smoke.. smok brand is also high quality.

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picked up $28 pack of oreoz with seven inside again!!!



my plants are in week five day five i think.. i kinda over watered them when i first upcanned them, i know i'm like the only fool that can over water an airpot... wtf!?!?!?! but i have an xtra fan on them and today i left the doors open to help dry em out a little but they're still pretty wrist bending heavy late today.



they seem to be recovering just fine from the prune, even the ones i messed up on!! hahaha





also got a pond plant in there i've been trying to nurse back to health...



almost ready to go back in the pond.... speaking of the pond i just got cousin eddie all buried and plumbed up.....

complete with decal....



and after a lightning fast paint job i have everything connected and working!!!



so as i'm here typing this i hear my printer make a funny filament sound... i forgot i was low on the spool and i walk over and see this much hanging out the end of the extruder... i was at 92% on the print too, so close to fuckin it up!!!! too close man!!!!!!



enjoy the rest of your weekend brother!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[MDK]

I always hit the wife with the "gotta tie one on before I mow the lawn" line then I go behind the shed and fire it up lol

That seat is a marvel.

 

[Stoneyluv]

I always hit the wife with the "gotta tie one on before I mow the lawn" line then I go behind the shed and fire it up lol

That seat is a marvel.

you know it, ya gotta get torn up to mow!!! my friends ask me why i don't get a zero turn and i tell em i don't wanna lose my one handed steering, how am i gonna smoke if i gotta keep both hands on the steering?!?!?! i got one of those suicide knobs on it as well so i can steer with just a couple fingers!!!

the cool thing it's got the hole between the legs for the five point harness so i use it as a padded stash spot for my smoke!!!! hehe

 

[Bandit420]

Nice score on the beans!!!
And that pump filter is just too funny man.
Ladies looking a little hungry man...You try telling them there's starving plants in China so they better eat? Fatten 'em up on some good ol liquid crab and lobster dude!!!

Lucky dog on that filament! My printer is still down as I have to change another hot end but got distracted then lazy and then distracted again. I'll get to it after Chicago I suppose.

Man, Nashville later today is gonna be interesting with that hot and slick track! And the #1 is on the pole! You know there's gonna be some chrome horns on his ass all day!

Say man, funny thing regarding meeting up with my sister and her family in Vegas.
I smoked out my nephew and his girl...Or really vaped out, and my sister let us know she pretty much hates weed as much as she ever has before. It's mostly due to what growers, especially foreign illegal cash croppers from Eastern Europe and Central/South America have done to northern California. They're destroying land and stealing water giving legal growers and people who want to keep Cali natural fits in the process. Plus she was never much into stoner life, maybe hit a doob here or there, but never smoked after high school.
But as we got to talking, even though she broke the family mold of not being a grower, not like she ain't into another illegal something...Fucking moonshine my man!!!
Yep, from what I gather my sister is the Hooch Mama of Humboldt hahahaha!!!! You can take the weed from the outlaw but you can never take the outlaw out of this family bloodline hahaha!! But yeah she has different flavors. I guess banana is very popular. Calls her still "The Stove" for code talk with friends and has a pretty good side hustle making the stuff. Mostly uses rye grain since she's in dairy farm country but also dabbles in corn and other mash.

 

[Stoneyluv]

Nice score on the beans!!!
And that pump filter is just too funny man.
Ladies looking a little hungry man...You try telling them there's starving plants in China so they better eat? Fatten 'em up on some good ol liquid crab and lobster dude!!!

Lucky dog on that filament! My printer is still down as I have to change another hot end but got distracted then lazy and then distracted again. I'll get to it after Chicago I suppose.

Man, Nashville later today is gonna be interesting with that hot and slick track! And the #1 is on the pole! You know there's gonna be some chrome horns on his ass all day!

Say man, funny thing regarding meeting up with my sister and her family in Vegas.
I smoked out my nephew and his girl...Or really vaped out, and my sister let us know she pretty much hates weed as much as she ever has before. It's mostly due to what growers, especially foreign illegal cash croppers from Eastern Europe and Central/South America have done to northern California. They're destroying land and stealing water giving legal growers and people who want to keep Cali natural fits in the process. Plus she was never much into stoner life, maybe hit a doob here or there, but never smoked after high school.
But as we got to talking, even though she broke the family mold of not being a grower, not like she ain't into another illegal something...Fucking moonshine my man!!!
Yep, from what I gather my sister is the Hooch Mama of Humboldt hahahaha!!!! You can take the weed from the outlaw but you can never take the outlaw out of this family bloodline hahaha!! But yeah she has different flavors. I guess banana is very popular. Calls her still "The Stove" for code talk with friends and has a pretty good side hustle making the stuff. Mostly uses rye grain since she's in dairy farm country but also dabbles in corn and other mash.

man they better lay on the chrome horn tonight!!!!!! especially on that number one car!!! I hope young gibbs takes him out!! hahaha i have the youngin in the pool this week... ugh!!! so i was just looking and i don't see any pre race stuff at all... is it on an nbc channel i'm not aware of?
it's alreight though i got NHRA on... i'm anxious to see how nbc does, i mean we already know kyle petty is a schmo and can't drive and loves to cry about it. and jr has gotten better over the years but it's a lot of southern draw for three hours!! wait, why am i talking to you about southern draw,,,, hahahahaha

this could be the year that they're better than fox.... ??? anything can happen!!! i hope the scanner is lined up a little closer. nothing worse than hearing the spotter say "lock it down" then 25 seconds later you see your dude in a wreck!!!!

and with larsons wreckers or checkers season he has going on this year i've heard the lock it down too many times!!!! we're not trying to hear any of that tonight!!!!!!

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I'm gonna feed my plants tonight man, i was waiting for them to lose a little water weight first because i over watered the soil when i mixed it up.

but tonight they're getting this line up right here....



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shiner huh?!?!! fuckin badass!!!!! I have been waiting so patiently to harvest my peaches because most of this tree is going to shine..





soon man soon!!!!!!!! I can't wait... i already bought all the sugar too!!! and i'm gonna try a low cook method using amylase enzyme trying to not boil and cook off some of those great aromas and flavors that you lose when cooking fruit. this will be the first time i'm trying this. my mash barrel is clean and ready to go so i'm just waiting on the peaches!!!!!!

i never made a banana shine before!!! if you guys ever get talking and she's willing to share her mash bill i'd love to give it a try!!! i'd never give away her recipe, it would die with me.

welp i burned up my hour of pre race talking on the phone and typing this out.... racing time!!!! wow NBC no national anthem, no fly over, no grand marshal... right to cars on the track!!! wow....

good luck 14 and 5 teams!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[steamroller]

Nice peaches~!
Crash #1? YES!!!

 

[Bandit420]

man they better lay on the chrome horn tonight!!!!!! especially on that number one car!!! I hope young gibbs takes him out!! hahaha i have the youngin in the pool this week... ugh!!! so i was just looking and i don't see any pre race stuff at all... is it on an nbc channel i'm not aware of?
it's alreight though i got NHRA on... i'm anxious to see how nbc does, i mean we already know kyle petty is a schmo and can't drive and loves to cry about it. and jr has gotten better over the years but it's a lot of southern draw for three hours!! wait, why am i talking to you about southern draw,,,, hahahahaha

this could be the year that they're better than fox.... ??? anything can happen!!! i hope the scanner is lined up a little closer. nothing worse than hearing the spotter say "lock it down" then 25 seconds later you see your dude in a wreck!!!!

and with larsons wreckers or checkers season he has going on this year i've heard the lock it down too many times!!!! we're not trying to hear any of that tonight!!!!!!

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I'm gonna feed my plants tonight man, i was waiting for them to lose a little water weight first because i over watered the soil when i mixed it up.

but tonight they're getting this line up right here....

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shiner huh?!?!! fuckin badass!!!!! I have been waiting so patiently to harvest my peaches because most of this tree is going to shine..

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soon man soon!!!!!!!! I can't wait... i already bought all the sugar too!!! and i'm gonna try a low cook method using amylase enzyme trying to not boil and cook off some of those great aromas and flavors that you lose when cooking fruit. this will be the first time i'm trying this. my mash barrel is clean and ready to go so i'm just waiting on the peaches!!!!!!

i never made a banana shine before!!! if you guys ever get talking and she's willing to share her mash bill i'd love to give it a try!!! i'd never give away her recipe, it would die with me.

welp i burned up my hour of pre race talking on the phone and typing this out.... racing time!!!! wow NBC no national anthem, no fly over, no grand marshal... right to cars on the track!!! wow....

good luck 14 and 5 teams!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Next time I talk with my sister I'll pick her for more info

Somebody fumbled the transition that's all I know. I looked on the guide and FS1 had soccer listed but maybe it was RaceDay? Last night on Race hub they acted like it aired so IDK WTH happened with prerace stuff but that stunk.
I bookmarked NASCAR on TV after that so I know where and what to DVR.
The race was pretty good though so it was hard to fuck it up after that. It also seemed like Nashville was in the way for NBC and they were overlooking it for Chicago.
Larson helped me in the pool. 14 is still in the gutter then IDK what that was with Suarez at the end.
But I got the 42 this week and he's rolling in the Wendy's ride!!! That reminds me I'll be clicking refresh all day tomorrow waiting for the weekend paint schemes to drop

Man those peaches look incredible!!! Lucky Dude!! Squirrels would never let that happen here. Save some for a cobbler!!!

 

[Stoneyluv]

Nice peaches~!
Crash #1? YES!!!

yeah that didn't end well.... ass stain going to the playoffs.

these peaches are calling my name man.. we've had some rain storms for past couple days now and i haven't had a chance to check them out.. as of friday night they were fairly solid yet with about 5% juicy ready to go. but i have everything else,, sugar, enzymes, yeast, yeast nutrient, my mash barrel is washed out and ready to go, i have at least a half gallon of vinegar to clean the still and i just got a new tank of propane for my still burner. i even have about a gallon of tralles from a double run of oatmeal rye i ran last time so i thought that flavor profile would bend nicely with the peaches!!

Next time I talk with my sister I'll pick her for more info

Somebody fumbled the transition that's all I know. I looked on the guide and FS1 had soccer listed but maybe it was RaceDay? Last night on Race hub they acted like it aired so IDK WTH happened with prerace stuff but that stunk.
I bookmarked NASCAR on TV after that so I know where and what to DVR.
The race was pretty good though so it was hard to fuck it up after that. It also seemed like Nashville was in the way for NBC and they were overlooking it for Chicago.
Larson helped me in the pool. 14 is still in the gutter then IDK what that was with Suarez at the end.
But I got the 42 this week and he's rolling in the Wendy's ride!!! That reminds me I'll be clicking refresh all day tomorrow waiting for the weekend paint schemes to drop

Man those peaches look incredible!!! Lucky Dude!! Squirrels would never let that happen here. Save some for a cobbler!!!

cool brother, i'm really curious to know if it's more than just bananas and sugar. although i have found many times simple makes the best shine. complex flavors work well with wine but don't really follow to much of those rules in distilling. not saying it can't be done it's just not ez.

all our squirrels disappeared a couple years ago and i couldn't be happier!! they used to have their way with my peaches every year. so this is the very first time i will get any bounty at all... bro i've been growing these trees for a long time now!!!! got had peaches in the past and then they would mold before you could eat any.... not this year.. no rodents, i have all the branches held up with bamboo so the deer can't reach them... all mine!!!!! i've been sneaking some off every chance i can get.. later this week i am going see how they look again.

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i wanted to get your help with something brother...
i'm going to switch things up a little this round of flowering, last round the lights grew the plants better and i noticed the five gallon buckets i normally use were coiled up a bit with roots so i want to go bigger in the soil dept. also since i have six plants growing this time and not my normal five plants my whole SIP bucket system won't really work at all so i'm going to pull those out and either use individual trays or use one big drip tray like you use to keep everything dry. i ordered some seven gallon grow bags for now. i just wanted to try something bigger... i wanted the ten gallon but my math says that the three across won't fit in my cabinet. the fabric ones are 13 inches diameter and the buckets i use are 10", do you think the small upsize will even make a difference at all? ..do you use ten gallon?

how do you water now days? by hand? i know you tried all different kinds of gravity/pumped/flooddrain kind, halo sprinkles, timers, volume controlled, pretty much every kind of auto and semi auto watering method there is you dabbled with a little over the years.

i don't know if i can go back to hand watering all through flowering after using SIP for so long. i have all kinds of controllers/valves/hoses and stuff laying around.... what kind of watering setup do you think i should use?

i don't mind hand feeding, i just want this for clean water. and i don't mind turning it on or filling it up and operating it or keeping an eye on it while it's working, in fact i would prefer to have a little control over it. i just don't want to be hunched over with a funnel and water jug in my hands waiting for the water to seep in the soil plant by plant over and over like i'm doing now!!!! hahaha

 

[Bandit420]

yeah that didn't end well.... ass stain going to the playoffs.

these peaches are calling my name man.. we've had some rain storms for past couple days now and i haven't had a chance to check them out.. as of friday night they were fairly solid yet with about 5% juicy ready to go. but i have everything else,, sugar, enzymes, yeast, yeast nutrient, my mash barrel is washed out and ready to go, i have at least a half gallon of vinegar to clean the still and i just got a new tank of propane for my still burner. i even have about a gallon of tralles from a double run of oatmeal rye i ran last time so i thought that flavor profile would bend nicely with the peaches!!



cool brother, i'm really curious to know if it's more than just bananas and sugar. although i have found many times simple makes the best shine. complex flavors work well with wine but don't really follow to much of those rules in distilling. not saying it can't be done it's just not ez.

all our squirrels disappeared a couple years ago and i couldn't be happier!! they used to have their way with my peaches every year. so this is the very first time i will get any bounty at all... bro i've been growing these trees for a long time now!!!! got had peaches in the past and then they would mold before you could eat any.... not this year.. no rodents, i have all the branches held up with bamboo so the deer can't reach them... all mine!!!!! i've been sneaking some off every chance i can get.. later this week i am going see how they look again.

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i wanted to get your help with something brother...
i'm going to switch things up a little this round of flowering, last round the lights grew the plants better and i noticed the five gallon buckets i normally use were coiled up a bit with roots so i want to go bigger in the soil dept. also since i have six plants growing this time and not my normal five plants my whole SIP bucket system won't really work at all so i'm going to pull those out and either use individual trays or use one big drip tray like you use to keep everything dry. i ordered some seven gallon grow bags for now. i just wanted to try something bigger... i wanted the ten gallon but my math says that the three across won't fit in my cabinet. the fabric ones are 13 inches diameter and the buckets i use are 10", do you think the small upsize will even make a difference at all? ..do you use ten gallon?

how do you water now days? by hand? i know you tried all different kinds of gravity/pumped/flooddrain kind, halo sprinkles, timers, volume controlled, pretty much every kind of auto and semi auto watering method there is you dabbled with a little over the years.

i don't know if i can go back to hand watering all through flowering after using SIP for so long. i have all kinds of controllers/valves/hoses and stuff laying around.... what kind of watering setup do you think i should use?

i don't mind hand feeding, i just want this for clean water. and i don't mind turning it on or filling it up and operating it or keeping an eye on it while it's working, in fact i would prefer to have a little control over it. i just don't want to be hunched over with a funnel and water jug in my hands waiting for the water to seep in the soil plant by plant over and over like i'm doing now!!!! hahaha

Perfect timing on this since I'm gonna send you some Raiders swag next week. I'm gonna add in a couple different sized hydro halos too. I'll get to those in a minute...

Dude...A ton went into the containers I use today. It wasn't by accident and it came after several years of watching roots.
IMO the most ideal container for flowering 3'-5' tall & wide ganja plants indoors is 14" wide by 12" deep. This will give you roughly around 6-7 gallons of soil.
One of the only containers around that fits the criteria is the blow molded C2800 nursery container used in commercial trade.



It's size is ideal but you can also see how it has ribs on the walls. Those help break direction and reduce coiling. The 14" width gives ample lateral travel space as well so it's damn near a perfect match with a 1gallon airpot plant upcanned into one of these containers.

I have a good supply and I'm also seeing some used pots on Etsy. ten/$30+ shipping. If you can't find them local we'll figure it out on getting some out to you but any good nursery or garden center or landscaping company selling trees and shrubs should have them and possibly for free.
They're also ez to clean with a simple rinse and will last years. To clean mine I just leave them out in the rain then rinse 'em off with the hose when the sun comes out.

I've been around my garden daily for a while now and haven't really needed to automate watering so yeah I've been hand watering with my trusty 1 gallon black bucket.
My plants are only in two rows of three plants each row and they're staggered so it's pretty ez for me to reach in there and get that back row watered and with the bucket I just dump it all in. The width of the container catches it all in a pool then it drains so no spilling or anything like that.

I don't see too much run off unless I water heavy with more than 2 gallon per plant but I'm usually watering once a day to once every other day strating around week 4 of flower and yeah I like the big tray over saucers.
The big tray is just nice because it catches everything from water to dead leaves but it is a huge hassle after the grow to drag out and pressure wash it. But it also has the lip to attach my trellis net poles so I'm pretty much committed to it now. I think about using saucers sometimes but the big tray seems to always win out even if it is a hassle to clean.

One idea for watering I like that would work for you is my IV style semi automatic waterer. This is basically a bucket elevated somehow above the plant containers. The higher the better then you get more flow with more gravity force.
At the bottom of the bucket is connected tubing and at the end of the tubing is a hydro halo.
So you put the bucket into position and set the halo on the plant you want watered. Next just fill the bucket and it will drain thru the tubing and out the halo to water the plant.
The halos are pretty much a fancy drip ring so it takes a few minutes for the bucket to fully drain

And with the halo you can go simple or very tricked out.
With the IV style it's just one halo and you move it from plant to plant.
But if you wanted to go nuts with it, you could put a halo on every plant, run irrigation lines, and use a central reservoir to water several plants at one time kind of like this set up in the pic.
And if you wanted to get even crazier with it...Add an electric pump, connect it to a smart outlet, and have Alexa water your garden for you while you sit back, toke one up, and giggle over how Alexa is watering your plants for you.
So yeah man I have plenty of halos to spare and some tubing I'll send out next week. I also have some elbow connectors and probably some Ts too but there's also designs on tinkercad to make our own plastic tubing connectors

 

[Rootsruler]

Nice watering rings. My DIY auto water is roughly what you mentioned in your post. I made watering rings out of the 1/4" drip line drip T's. They worked but I have a feeling using them during the duration of the grow is going to promote water columns in the soil. I've opted to use the watering dishes that FloraFlex has from their matrix system as I see that as a better option for complete media saturation.

 

[Bandit420]

Nice watering rings. My DIY auto water is roughly what you mentioned in your post. I made watering rings out of the 1/4" drip line drip T's. They worked but I have a feeling using them during the duration of the grow is going to promote water columns in the soil. I've opted to use the watering dishes that FloraFlex has from their matrix system as I see that as a better option for complete media saturation.

Yeah these are water only rings. Hard to find a use for them in other applications because the holes are so tiny. They clog ez so if using nutes they'd also need something like ClearRez added in to prevent salt build up and clogs.
My aquaponics rings are similar to what you describe but in 1/2" size and using Ts for the drippers. Fish poo gets a little on the mucky side and clog even the half inch if it's not flushed out regularly.

 

[Stoneyluv]

Perfect timing on this since I'm gonna send you some Raiders swag next week. I'm gonna add in a couple different sized hydro halos too. I'll get to those in a minute...

Dude...A ton went into the containers I use today. It wasn't by accident and it came after several years of watching roots.
IMO the most ideal container for flowering 3'-5' tall & wide ganja plants indoors is 14" wide by 12" deep. This will give you roughly around 6-7 gallons of soil.
One of the only containers around that fits the criteria is the blow molded C2800 nursery container used in commercial trade.

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It's size is ideal but you can also see how it has ribs on the walls. Those help break direction and reduce coiling. The 14" width gives ample lateral travel space as well so it's damn near a perfect match with a 1gallon airpot plant upcanned into one of these containers.

I have a good supply and I'm also seeing some used pots on Etsy. ten/$30+ shipping. If you can't find them local we'll figure it out on getting some out to you but any good nursery or garden center or landscaping company selling trees and shrubs should have them and possibly for free.
They're also ez to clean with a simple rinse and will last years. To clean mine I just leave them out in the rain then rinse 'em off with the hose when the sun comes out.

I've been around my garden daily for a while now and haven't really needed to automate watering so yeah I've been hand watering with my trusty 1 gallon black bucket.
My plants are only in two rows of three plants each row and they're staggered so it's pretty ez for me to reach in there and get that back row watered and with the bucket I just dump it all in. The width of the container catches it all in a pool then it drains so no spilling or anything like that.

I don't see too much run off unless I water heavy with more than 2 gallon per plant but I'm usually watering once a day to once every other day strating around week 4 of flower and yeah I like the big tray over saucers.
The big tray is just nice because it catches everything from water to dead leaves but it is a huge hassle after the grow to drag out and pressure wash it. But it also has the lip to attach my trellis net poles so I'm pretty much committed to it now. I think about using saucers sometimes but the big tray seems to always win out even if it is a hassle to clean.

One idea for watering I like that would work for you is my IV style semi automatic waterer. This is basically a bucket elevated somehow above the plant containers. The higher the better then you get more flow with more gravity force.
At the bottom of the bucket is connected tubing and at the end of the tubing is a hydro halo.
So you put the bucket into position and set the halo on the plant you want watered. Next just fill the bucket and it will drain thru the tubing and out the halo to water the plant.
The halos are pretty much a fancy drip ring so it takes a few minutes for the bucket to fully drain

And with the halo you can go simple or very tricked out.
With the IV style it's just one halo and you move it from plant to plant.
But if you wanted to go nuts with it, you could put a halo on every plant, run irrigation lines, and use a central reservoir to water several plants at one time kind of like this set up in the pic.
And if you wanted to get even crazier with it...Add an electric pump, connect it to a smart outlet, and have Alexa water your garden for you while you sit back, toke one up, and giggle over how Alexa is watering your plants for you.
So yeah man I have plenty of halos to spare and some tubing I'll send out next week. I also have some elbow connectors and probably some Ts too but there's also designs on tinkercad to make our own plastic tubing connectors

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man you are such a wealth of knowledge!!!! i checked today and i can get those containers at a place near my house for free... the guy is going to save me some and should have them in plenty of time.

and since i was already there i stocked up on lobster compost and bumper crop!!!



the halo rings sound like just what i need, i can connect them to my rain collector with a bluetooth valve i have so it automatically shuts off when i get distracted. i have all kinds of tubing and valves, and i went looking and found some rings i can print out... i'll give this one a try..



i think they will work great for the airpots with an IV set up. it might take a bit of tweaking to get it just right but at least i can figure it out in an upright position!!!! haha

if its that ez to water with the solid containers in flowering i may opt for hand watering we'll see... very doubtful if i make the whole setup though! hehe I'm going to have to use saucers underneath though after measuring my cabinet. plus i wouldn't want to drag a huge tray up the steps to clean it off... and it's only six trays so not that big of a deal.









thanks for the advice man!!!!! it will be time to flower before i know it!!

now i gotta go back to waging my tail about word of raiders swag.... ahhhhh yeah!!!!!!!!

 

[Stoneyluv]

Shake it shake it shake it, but don’t hurt yourself ..Jump to the front put that thing in drive... Like a big truck driver just swing it real wide... Let’s step to the back put that thing in reverse.. Turn it on around while you make it work... work work work..

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cleaned up my flower area and took out all my SIP buckets and plumbing, got it down to just the bare turntable.. i'm not going to use the turntable again this grow and i'm also not going to use cages, i'm gonna let em all hang out!!!

got more head room now...





so one of the reasons for the change is with my new lighting the roots overgrew the five gallon buckets i've always used. this was one of the better looking ones....



so a few changes this round... no turntable ( well maybe to help get them out at harvest time.. hehe) no cages ( gonna need new bud support), bigger containers throughout the entire grow, new different watering system, new soil, and i don't just mean a new kind, i'm actually using brand new never grown in before soil. i know you guys think i'm crazy but i always reuse all my soil. i just add all kinds of stuff when i mix it up.

i know this isn't the best there is but it's the best my money clip would do at the time...



i'll add bone meal and some minerals along with the bumper crop i just bought.

as for the watering i went all in on el bandito's idea of gravity drip rings so i printed six out ( a smarter dude would have made them six different colors) i printed out posts for them then glued em on. I also printed out some tube clamps so i can slow one down if needed, and it was. and for the rez i just used a plastic jug hung upside down with the top cut open for ez filling, jammed six tubes in the cap and all finished!








had to pinch them all off three clicks and lower the rez bucket a couple feet. so they all had water on the drip tray and it didn't come from the sides so i call this a huge success!!!!

and it turns out these aren't just for supporting seedlings anymore....



now i just need to wait for my plants to grow up big and strong!!!!

 

[Bandit420]

 

[Stoneyluv]

got just over 100 pounds from the one tree... score!!!



i mashed in 12 gallons of moonshine brandy and also pulped up five gallons of wine... gave a bucket to my neighbor, and a bucket to the church and the rest is for us. then it's a short little break till the next tree is ready!!! these were called resilience peach, the next up are mystic peach. the third kind i have is made by a school, maybe hartford? i'd have to look it up i can't remember at the time.

the mash is working off like a mutha!! i used the amylase enzyme and that worked really awesome, i'll never overcook fruit again to break down the carbs!!! i mushed up 20 pounds by hand, added some water, heated it to 160 to kill off bacteria then let it come back down to 152* and added the enzymes... held that temp for almost an hour till it was all simple sugar, i checked with the iodine test to be sure. then added 8 pounds of sugar. after the temp dropped below 90 i added a high power yeast from red star, this stuff lives to about 22-23% if fed properly!!! tomorrow i'll add a tablespoon of yeast nutrient and it should be good to run maybe the end of the weekend or early next week!!! i just have to clean the still and get that setup... but just peaches, sugar, water, and yeast... and let those peaches speak for themselves!!!

as for the wine i don't have nearly the amount of experience i have only made it a handful of times. so that i'll go by gravity measurements and rules rather than taste and smell like i do the shine... i never made a five gallon batch before but since i own a carboy and fermentation vessel big enough i figured why not?!?!?!

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just starting week seven....



it's time to get that pond plant out of there, it's fully recovered and taller than the ganja now!!!! hahaha

 

[Bandit420]

Looks like life is just peachy in more ways than one in your world Brother!

You know what else is quite peachy? Seeing the Hemp Smoker go windshield deep into a stack of tires giving them a #Metoo moment.



Dude, this was so awesome when it happened! There was a Super Hater fan of Kyle Busch next to us and my man, when KB plowed those tires she got so moist and it had nothing to do with the rain! She even threatened her boyfriend she was going to ditch him and go ask some dude wearing a Fuck Kyle Bush shirt to marry her. Good times

 

[Stoneyluv]

Looks like life is just peachy in more ways than one in your world Brother!

You know what else is quite peachy? Seeing the Hemp Smoker go windshield deep into a stack of tires giving them a #Metoo moment.

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Dude, this was so awesome when it happened! There was a Super Hater fan of Kyle Busch next to us and my man, when KB plowed those tires she got so moist and it had nothing to do with the rain! She even threatened her boyfriend she was going to ditch him and go ask some dude wearing a Fuck Kyle Bush shirt to marry her. Good times

what a great shot!!!! i can't believe she got back in it and finished up front. larson tried to spin out that pole smoker when he went by at the end, got the 8 loose and into the wall a little bit!!!! i was smiling!!!

man i can't wait to hear what your experience was like, I'll never complain about rain, and i'm sure it would have been better dry and full length but man from on tv it looked fuckin incredible!! the storms made their way here just after and just when the race got started NBC decided to air a special weather broadcast instead of the race for two hours. i caught some on a pirate website and watched some on my pc but i missed more than i saw. i had larson's radio on the whole time though.

but what i did see was very cool!!! the coolest thing nascar has done since the throwback weekend!!! it's a shame it had to end early because they were starting to get really fast by the end!!

the only thing that pissed me off was that traffic jam near the end where the 24 hit the tires and the 4 and the 7 i think got spun out across the track blocking it. that was a shit show and i know the 5 and the 14 got fucked in that deal! along with a bunch of other drivers!

so how was it from your side? where were you watching from? could you move around at all or were you stuck at one spot? how were the other festivities?

oh, and bears QB... worst grand marshall ever! he said he was standing in front of a mirror practicing... practicing for what?!?!?! the most boring monotone way to say those famous four words!!!

I hope you're having a great independence day brother!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Bandit420]

what a great shot!!!! i can't believe she got back in it and finished up front. larson tried to spin out that pole smoker when he went by at the end, got the 8 loose and into the wall a little bit!!!! i was smiling!!!

man i can't wait to hear what your experience was like, I'll never complain about rain, and i'm sure it would have been better dry and full length but man from on tv it looked fuckin incredible!! the storms made their way here just after and just when the race got started NBC decided to air a special weather broadcast instead of the race for two hours. i caught some on a pirate website and watched some on my pc but i missed more than i saw. i had larson's radio on the whole time though.

but what i did see was very cool!!! the coolest thing nascar has done since the throwback weekend!!! it's a shame it had to end early because they were starting to get really fast by the end!!

the only thing that pissed me off was that traffic jam near the end where the 24 hit the tires and the 4 and the 7 i think got spun out across the track blocking it. that was a shit show and i know the 5 and the 14 got fucked in that deal! along with a bunch of other drivers!

so how was it from your side? where were you watching from? could you move around at all or were you stuck at one spot? how were the other festivities?

oh, and bears QB... worst grand marshall ever! he said he was standing in front of a mirror practicing... practicing for what?!?!?! the most boring monotone way to say those famous four words!!!

I hope you're having a great independence day brother!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dude...just the whole dang thing was incredible!
So lets start from the beginning and what happened that made me realize I was at something special.
Friday was garage hours. The garage is a street in downtown Chicago and the stalls are tents. The next street over beyond a Jersey barrier is public road with commuters.
As the haulers are unloading, a wreck happens on that road across from the garage area. Car and SUV hit pretty hard and the SUV is left with a bumper hanging, disabling the SUV from driving on and it was blocking traffic. So what happens next?
Guys from Legacy Motors and Kaulig racing jump into action. They undo the wiring harness on the bumper, work the clips, then get that thing off and in the back so the SUV can carry on. And just to top it off, a little bearbond on the hood to hold it down. SUV was able to get back in the commute only a couple laps down when it coulda been DNF if not for those guys.

Saturday something happened to the city. Everybody within earshot caught the bug when they heard those cars. People on rooftops, hanging out windows of skyscrapers, climbing up on top of bus stops and train stations, doing anything to get a peek. From there, crowds swelled!!!

The Black Crowes..still got it!!! The only concert that did play but what a show!

Saturday night after the race was called...Drinks with guys from SHR's #10 and #00 cars pit crew teams at the hotel bar after dinner at a English pub a few blocks away. We were lit up, they were buzzing, and I was like Hey SHR is here, let me buy Y'all a round and wish you luck! I think I embarrassed them a little because they were pretty incognito but I know those logos on their hats and polos from across the room haha!
The craziest thing about this race is how fans and crews were mixed in together both at hotels and at the track. There were even fans on spotter platforms!

Sunday was damn near a washout. It looked very bad. Plans to go to Portillios for a prerace Chicago dog were canceled as we holed up in the room while it poured, listening and watching for updates. Around 1pm, ordered deep dish pizza delivered to the room and waited.
Around 4pm it was looking grim. 5pm and they did the national anthem and prerace ceremonies. So with that we ponchoed up and walked the 1/2 miles or so to the track in pouring rain.
When we settled in our seats, the rain stopped and the clouds opened up. Drivers got called back to their cars and it was on! Justin Fields stunk up the call and got booed but we're going racing!!!
Around lap 33 the cars just came to life! More speed, more passing, more risks and some real good hard racing.

We were on Michigan Ave on turn 11 right past the chicane.

The chica in the Bubba Wallace hat who video bombed this was the KB super hater. She was a #23 fan, her beau a #22 fan, but she was a KB super hater more than anything. Her rants about him were drunken melodies that had us rolling!

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It had some chaos at times. The track ate some drivers alive. It was a very demanding course and showed no mercy. Gragson really had it out for tire barriers. Larson found crazy speed until the pile up. Reddick was fast but reckless. Truex was nails then got eaten alive by the track. Bubba drove with a pissy attitude and I wondered if he thought he'd be given this race and others would lay down for him.
Briscoe found speed with the slicks and moved to top 10 before the pile up. That Mahindra Pony looked good and it was great to hear he wanted to start on time and in the rain! Ballsy fucker. My man has moxy for days!!!

But in the end, it was the Kiwi's day and very well deserved. The F1 guy, Button, was out of place but that Aussie supercar guy was legit and it showed. He even drives a Camaro on his regular circuit.
He and the 31 raced hard and fair at the end but the 91 had better tires and a better driver. It wasn't close. #9 was sniffing but falling back fast. Even if it went the full 100 that guy was pulling away and might've embarrassed the field. So respect to SVG and Project 91. I'm sold and already ordered the raced version diecast of the winner.

Sunday night back at the hotel bar again...Drinks with guys from the #21 car pit crew. Young!!! Thought I might get popped for serving alcohol to minors with those guys. They had a hard day but they're grinders and will be fine.

As for the fan experience it was ok at best. Expensive drinks and food...Six packs of Michelob on sale for $72 kinda pricing. $24 no booze margaritas. You get the picture. Needed lighting for walkways after the race and more/wider pedestrian bridges to prevent bottleneck. I made my thoughts known in the post race survey.

And then the crowd. Holy fuck balls dude! NASCAR gained a shit ton of fans this weekend from all over the country and world. Fans from all 50 states and 15 different countries were there. I haven't heard that many different languages in one place since going on the Statue of Liberty tour.
And then the city itself turned out and went bonkers! I heard there were rumblings the public and city didn't really want the race since it was the ex-mayors baby. Well that all changed by qualifying on Saturday.
It was cool to be a part of sports history like that. First ever street race. First time in 60 years a driver wins a cup race in his debut. Unforgettable and special. It was very different and not like we should be doing street and road racing every other week but for a one off event with points and a playoff spot on the line is great for the sport and expanding the fan base.
One of the coolest scenes I saw was outside the track where the public could get a quick glimpse of cars as they sped by. There was a group of little kids who would line up at the start of the short stretch. As the cars go screaming by, the kids run along with them going nuts. Then the cars disappear and the kids go back to the start to do it again the next pass. You never know man..in that group of kids might be a future cup winner now! That's how infectious racing was to people this weekend.

 

[Stoneyluv]

Dude...just the whole dang thing was incredible!
So lets start from the beginning and what happened that made me realize I was at something special.
Friday was garage hours. The garage is a street in downtown Chicago and the stalls are tents. The next street over beyond a Jersey barrier is public road with commuters.
As the haulers are unloading, a wreck happens on that road across from the garage area. Car and SUV hit pretty hard and the SUV is left with a bumper hanging, disabling the SUV from driving on and it was blocking traffic. So what happens next?
Guys from Legacy Motors and Kaulig racing jump into action. They undo the wiring harness on the bumper, work the clips, then get that thing off and in the back so the SUV can carry on. And just to top it off, a little bearbond on the hood to hold it down. SUV was able to get back in the commute only a couple laps down when it coulda been DNF if not for those guys.

Saturday something happened to the city. Everybody within earshot caught the bug when they heard those cars. People on rooftops, hanging out windows of skyscrapers, climbing up on top of bus stops and train stations, doing anything to get a peek. From there, crowds swelled!!!

The Black Crowes..still got it!!! The only concert that did play but what a show!

Saturday night after the race was called...Drinks with guys from SHR's #10 and #00 cars pit crew teams at the hotel bar after dinner at a English pub a few blocks away. We were lit up, they were buzzing, and I was like Hey SHR is here, let me buy Y'all a round and wish you luck! I think I embarrassed them a little because they were pretty incognito but I know those logos on their hats and polos from across the room haha!
The craziest thing about this race is how fans and crews were mixed in together both at hotels and at the track. There were even fans on spotter platforms!

Sunday was damn near a washout. It looked very bad. Plans to go to Portillios for a prerace Chicago dog were canceled as we holed up in the room while it poured, listening and watching for updates. Around 1pm, ordered deep dish pizza delivered to the room and waited.
Around 4pm it was looking grim. 5pm and they did the national anthem and prerace ceremonies. So with that we ponchoed up and walked the 1/2 miles or so to the track in pouring rain.
When we settled in our seats, the rain stopped and the clouds opened up. Drivers got called back to their cars and it was on! Justin Fields stunk up the call and got booed but we're going racing!!!
Around lap 33 the cars just came to life! More speed, more passing, more risks and some real good hard racing.

We were on Michigan Ave on turn 11 right past the chicane.

The chica in the Bubba Wallace hat who video bombed this was the KB super hater. She was a #23 fan, her beau a #22 fan, but she was a KB super hater more than anything. Her rants about him were drunken melodies that had us rolling!

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It had some chaos at times. The track ate some drivers alive. It was a very demanding course and showed no mercy. Gragson really had it out for tire barriers. Larson found crazy speed until the pile up. Reddick was fast but reckless. Truex was nails then got eaten alive by the track. Bubba drove with a pissy attitude and I wondered if he thought he'd be given this race and others would lay down for him.
Briscoe found speed with the slicks and moved to top 10 before the pile up. That Mahindra Pony looked good and it was great to hear he wanted to start on time and in the rain! Ballsy fucker. My man has moxy for days!!!

But in the end, it was the Kiwi's day and very well deserved. The F1 guy, Button, was out of place but that Aussie supercar guy was legit and it showed. He even drives a Camaro on his regular circuit.
He and the 31 raced hard and fair at the end but the 91 had better tires and a better driver. It wasn't close. #9 was sniffing but falling back fast. Even if it went the full 100 that guy was pulling away and might've embarrassed the field. So respect to SVG and Project 91. I'm sold and already ordered the raced version diecast of the winner.

Sunday night back at the hotel bar again...Drinks with guys from the #21 car pit crew. Young!!! Thought I might get popped for serving alcohol to minors with those guys. They had a hard day but they're grinders and will be fine.

As for the fan experience it was ok at best. Expensive drinks and food...Six packs of Michelob on sale for $72 kinda pricing. $24 no booze margaritas. You get the picture. Needed lighting for walkways after the race and more/wider pedestrian bridges to prevent bottleneck. I made my thoughts known in the post race survey.

And then the crowd. Holy fuck balls dude! NASCAR gained a shit ton of fans this weekend from all over the country and world. Fans from all 50 states and 15 different countries were there. I haven't heard that many different languages in one place since going on the Statue of Liberty tour.
And then the city itself turned out and went bonkers! I heard there were rumblings the public and city didn't really want the race since it was the ex-mayors baby. Well that all changed by qualifying on Saturday.
It was cool to be a part of sports history like that. First ever street race. First time in 60 years a driver wins a cup race in his debut. Unforgettable and special. It was very different and not like we should be doing street and road racing every other week but for a one off event with points and a playoff spot on the line is great for the sport and expanding the fan base.
One of the coolest scenes I saw was outside the track where the public could get a quick glimpse of cars as they sped by. There was a group of little kids who would line up at the start of the short stretch. As the cars go screaming by, the kids run along with them going nuts. Then the cars disappear and the kids go back to the start to do it again the next pass. You never know man..in that group of kids might be a future cup winner now! That's how infectious racing was to people this weekend.

man that sounds like so much fun even if some of it was washed out. that was so cool of the crews to help out the suv, i've heard of other stories about nascar guys help out stranded motorists. could you imagine the mechanic's face when the suv rolled in and they had to remove that panel of super tape!!!!! haha

that cool that you actually had seats, i saw a lot of people standing!! the people next to the spotters was way cool!!! your seats looked good too, good view had a screen to watch. how about the mufflers. were they even a factor? i know i could hear a difference in the radios, i'd hear more drivetrain noise than engine noise like normal.

and man buying the crews beers is uber cool!!! that's funny about the 21 guys... should have carded them!!! hahaha i imagine jumping over a wall is a young man game!!

glad to hear the crowes were good, so i take it the other groups didn't play at all? nobody even opened for them?

and for sure SVG earned that win... that dude was passing guys at ridiculous rates, and super clean at that!! he raced guys cleaner than they raced him thats for sure!!

that was so awesome when they had the old vintage looking street lights in globes with the cars going right next to them... and the skyscrapers in the views, so unique!! almost appeared as a video game at first.

yeah so i paid the $5 whatever to rewatch it... killed me to pay that stupid $5, and i gotta watch commercials too!! i'll keep it for at least the month and get to see pre race stuff anyway.

man i bet truex will never visit chicago ever again!!! gragson had a tough day as well, even though he looked good in his bacon suit!!!! hehe

glad to hear it was even better than on tv, sucks that your other festivities got washed out! something tells me you'll make that up some day...

so i gotta know one other thing bro... so it's sunday around 2-3pm you're in the hotel room, tell us brother Bandit who has better pizza... chicago or NY??

 

[Bandit420]

man that sounds like so much fun even if some of it was washed out. that was so cool of the crews to help out the suv, i've heard of other stories about nascar guys help out stranded motorists. could you imagine the mechanic's face when the suv rolled in and they had to remove that panel of super tape!!!!! haha

that cool that you actually had seats, i saw a lot of people standing!! the people next to the spotters was way cool!!! your seats looked good too, good view had a screen to watch. how about the mufflers. were they even a factor? i know i could hear a difference in the radios, i'd hear more drivetrain noise than engine noise like normal.

and man buying the crews beers is uber cool!!! that's funny about the 21 guys... should have carded them!!! hahaha i imagine jumping over a wall is a young man game!!

glad to hear the crowes were good, so i take it the other groups didn't play at all? nobody even opened for them?

and for sure SVG earned that win... that dude was passing guys at ridiculous rates, and super clean at that!! he raced guys cleaner than they raced him thats for sure!!

that was so awesome when they had the old vintage looking street lights in globes with the cars going right next to them... and the skyscrapers in the views, so unique!! almost appeared as a video game at first.

yeah so i paid the $5 whatever to rewatch it... killed me to pay that stupid $5, and i gotta watch commercials too!! i'll keep it for at least the month and get to see pre race stuff anyway.

man i bet truex will never visit chicago ever again!!! gragson had a tough day as well, even though he looked good in his bacon suit!!!! hehe

glad to hear it was even better than on tv, sucks that your other festivities got washed out! something tells me you'll make that up some day...

so i gotta know one other thing bro... so it's sunday around 2-3pm you're in the hotel room, tell us brother Bandit who has better pizza... chicago or NY??

General admission seating at Chicago was non existent brother so that's why you saw people up against the fence like that 10-20 people deep.
GA at COTA is a steal because you can get a great spot on the grass at Turn 1 for only $40 but up in the seat is $90 for pretty much the same view. Not a good deal at Chicago at all and in fact they expected some GA admission people to watch the race on the main jumbotron at the concert stage so yeah we bought seats so we could at least see the cars.
If I do it again I may not even buy tix to get inside but opt for a nearby restaurant rooftop where some of the best views to be had were at.

The mufflers totally reduced the noise. Xfinity cars were way louder than cup this time.
The scene was epic though. Yeah those lights, the buildings made for the weirdest infield ever, and just racing on the streets was wild! Bridges, manhole covers, train tracks, water. Only thing missing on the track was a runaway baby carriage!

Ahh the great pizza debate!
Let's look at the tape!

NYC's Little Italy, The Margarita



Chicago ciabatta bread crust mushroom & 4 cheese pie by Labriola



Chicago Deep Dish by Giordano's. Small pepperoni, sausage, mushroom and anchovies and a medium Super Veggie





There really is no wrong answer here
Cold and rainy day? Give me that deep dish!
Warm and doing a lot of walking? Give me that NYC!
Sit down at a restaurant for dinner and drinks? Give me that ciabatta bread crust pie!

Best crust- Chicago Ciabatta
Best flavor ensemble- Chicago Deep Dish
Best authentic pie that says old world Italy in each bite- NYC
Best sauce- Chicago
Best cheese- NYC

We have enough Detroit transplants here that's let me try enough Detroit style to know it's good but Chicago and NYC are top dogs. But I do want to try New Haven style which is pretty much Napoli. There's lots of wannabes here so I cant comment on what I've had so far because I don't consider it authentic.

But I will throw this baddboy in the mix because IMO it's up there with the best of 'em. It's an old school Austin original and I'd have to say the official pie of Austin no matter what anybody says regarding new and trendy spots all the hipsters and yuppies think are good around here...

Conan's thick crust "Savage" pie.
Conan's is a dive pizza joint that's been around since the 80s so it's not all trendy and hip like what's common and in demand here but the ol boy back there manning the oven does not fuck around when it comes to making one of the best pies I've ever had

 

[Stoneyluv]

well there ya have it folks... looks like chicago wins out narrowly three to two!!!

personally i'm not much of a thick crust or pan pizza fan, all looks like pizza hut to me!! i prefer a new jersey style thin crust, light on the dough and sauce and cheese all the way up to the edge. if i want a three inch thick dry crust i'll order bread sticks!

no matter how many different types my family has had we always prefer the homemade ones right here at the shack!!! i make what i call an extras pizza... extra cheese, extra sauce, extra toppings.. you get the idea... thing weighs eight pounds when i'm done!! hahaha

that ciabatta crust sounds good though.. i know i really like that bread on sandwiches a lot. especially when it's still warm from the oven!!!

i'm curious Bandit, what made you tip to chicago side on the sauce?

this is the part where i'm a bit blind, i've never had true chicago style sauce. I like mine on the bolder side. i don't like sweet sauce at all, if it has sugar in it ruins it all for me. i'll eat candy or fruit if i'm in the mood for sweet not pizza, and for the love of god don't put fruit on the pizza!!!

but i like a black pepper forward gravy or red sauce as some call it, it needs to be a little chunky in onions and peppers and tomatoes but not too big sized, i don't wanna chew a big piece of tomato. but i don't want it all pureed down to soup.

gotta be heavy on garlic as well, and a fair amount of oregano.

man am i hungry for pizza now!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Anthem275]

well there ya have it folks... looks like chicago wins out narrowly three to two!!!

personally i'm not much of a thick crust or pan pizza fan, all looks like pizza hut to me!! i prefer a new jersey style thin crust, light on the dough and sauce and cheese all the way up to the edge. if i want a three inch thick dry crust i'll order bread sticks!

no matter how many different types my family has had we always prefer the homemade ones right here at the shack!!! i make what i call an extras pizza... extra cheese, extra sauce, extra toppings.. you get the idea... thing weighs eight pounds when i'm done!! hahaha

that ciabatta crust sounds good though.. i know i really like that bread on sandwiches a lot. especially when it's still warm from the oven!!!

i'm curious Bandit, what made you tip to chicago side on the sauce?

this is the part where i'm a bit blind, i've never had true chicago style sauce. I like mine on the bolder side. i don't like sweet sauce at all, if it has sugar in it ruins it all for me. i'll eat candy or fruit if i'm in the mood for sweet not pizza, and for the love of god don't put fruit on the pizza!!!

but i like a black pepper forward gravy or red sauce as some call it, it needs to be a little chunky in onions and peppers and tomatoes but not too big sized, i don't wanna chew a big piece of tomato. but i don't want it all pureed down to soup.

gotta be heavy on garlic as well, and a fair amount of oregano.

man am i hungry for pizza now!!!!!!!!!!!

Another Larson guy good for you Stoney!
I saw a TV documentary on this guy and the author stated this guy had the best Pizza in the world.

Pizzeria Bianc​

In Pheonix AZ

 

[Stoneyluv]

Another Larson guy good for you Stoney!
I saw a TV documentary on this guy and the author stated this guy had the best Pizza in the world.

Pizzeria Bianc​

In Pheonix AZ

wood fire places win out every time with me. we have few around here and they're definitely my favorite shops!!!

years ago i bought all the stuff to make my own pizza oven with the exercise ball and shrink wrap covered in cement... well i used the cement years ago on a few posts and the plastic wrap i'm still using and will probably have enough for a pizza oven if the time comes, and the exercise ball is still in the box!!! haha one day maybe but probably not. it's not building it, it's the using it. you gotta build the fire hours before cooking the pizza... nah i got dial on my oven that takes minutes!!! hahaha

hell yeah man, go 5 go~~~