ViparSpectra KS3000 - 5x5 Solo Cup run #2

[Observer]

@tobh

Some good info, maybe you already know, if not.

 

[Observer]

Just bushing out crazy

 

[Observer]

did 2.0 EC VEG mix according to -
4g 9-17-28
2.9g 15-0-0 +tap EC
1000ppm+ Tap.


6ml hypo acid
2.5ml pool shock (hypo acid)




last few nights were 1.5 EC~ +tap
3g 9-17-28
2.3g 15-0-0

https://customhydronutrients.com/assets/images/downloads/JR-CropTech-Veg-Application-Chartxlsx-Veg-1.pdf

 

[smoke]

Just bushing out crazy

And looking really good , thats quite the root "ball"

 

[Observer]

And looking really good , thats quite the root "ball"

thank you sir. trying to get the Solution Just right.

and Water Content/drybacks

 

[SSgrower]

Observer is going to be "Scary" when he gets the S.O.P. working how he wants it. Watch out! Cheers SSgrower

 

[Observer]

Observer is going to be "Scary" when he gets the S.O.P. working how he wants it. Watch out! Cheers SSgrower

Betta watch out

 

[Observer]

Mimosa Mint seemingly doing Well.

 

[Observer]

@GrumpAzz

Shocked I tell ya

Thanks man

 

[Observer]

Flower batch

@GrumpAzz

 

[GrumpAzz]

Flower batch

@GrumpAzz

That seems a little high to me. I'm not up to snuff on watering in soil but my EC never got over 1.5 on my last run. Is 2.2 what your aiming for?

 

[Observer]

Not a bad little fan or the price.

 

[Observer]

That seems a little high to me. I'm not up to snuff on watering in soil but my EC never got over 1.5 on my last run. Is 2.2 what your aiming for?

Not soil, vermiculite and or coco/perlite mix.
Or 100% perlite.

Probably switching to rockwool soon

Some run 4.0 EC start to finish.

Was wanting to try a higher ec I was doing a 1.5~ec before, so trying 2.0-2.2 now

And trying 2.5ec veg from 1.5ec

Watering events are every few hours.

Next thing to finally put together is a rez/auto water system/drip perhaps

 

[Observer]

That seems a little high to me. I'm not up to snuff on watering in soil but my EC never got over 1.5 on my last run. Is 2.2 what your aiming for?

Everything I've been doing is just fucking around pretty much.

just trying to learn everything I can as fast as possible, what you can't and can do, why and why not, what works and doesn't, learning salts and hydro,high-freq-fert, different growth techniques and methods and playing with my "recipe" plan to do a "real grow" in some rockwool as soon as these fuckers are done flowering

What parameters do what, learning how to read the plant etc

Only dove back in when I got stable and had an apartment last two years, now im ready for the wool.

And or another DWC run.

I do like playing with the water.

 

[GrumpAzz]

Well your plants look healthy. No signs of burn that I can see.

Keep it up, bro

 

[Observer]

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Well your plants look healthy. No signs of burn that I can see.

Keep it up, bro

Thanks man trying to get them healthier all the way around and get that proper Green shade, definitely already looking way better.

Leafs get these odd green pattern when pH fluctuates too much, new growth is looking way better after stripping the older not as healthy leafs.

The E.C I'm not completely sure yet, I'll probably go for 2.0 tonight and see, and they don't get all those PPMs at once so I think thats a big role in there too, but also they only take what they need supposedly, I don't know how it all works/balances together completely just yet, and then the watering frequency plays a role too.

Besides being sure you don't get too much of a dry back causing E.C spikes leading to toxicities as the water dries back leaving more salts behind.

Some commercial grows run 3.0 clone to harvest some 4.0, 2.5

Increasing the E.C is also part of crop-steering/ vegetative/generative steering.

Using osmotic pressure to stress the plants, increase the salt amount making it harder to uptake water, depending on the media.

Having all this food available but can't take it so easily does a thing to em and they GROW.

Osmotic pressure for rockwool/ somewhat coco.

In soil you can give less water to induce those responses through drought stress, works differently in rockwool.

Matrix potential or something, I'm just starting to understand it more/read about it more and play with it.

 

[Observer]

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Thanks man trying to get them healthier all the way around and get that proper Green shade, definitely already looking way better.

Leafs get these odd green pattern when pH fluctuates too much, new growth is looking way better after stripping the older not as healthy leafs.

The E.C I'm not completely sure yet, I'll probably go for 2.0 tonight and see, and they don't get all those PPMs at once so I think thats a big role in there too, but also they only take what they need supposedly, I don't know how it all works/balances together completely just yet, and then the watering frequency plays a role too.

Besides being sure you don't get too much of a dry back causing E.C spikes leading to toxicities as the water dries back leaving more salts behind.

Some commercial grows run 3.0 clone to harvest some 4.0, 2.5

Increasing the E.C is also part of crop-steering/ vegetative/generative steering.

Using osmotic pressure to stress the plants, increase the salt amount making it harder to uptake water, depending on the media.

Having all this food available but can't take it so easily does a thing to em and they GROW.

Osmotic pressure for rockwool/ somewhat coco.

In soil you can give less water to induce those responses through drought stress, works differently in rockwool.

Matrix potential or something, I'm just starting to understand it more/read about it more and play with it.

the matric potential of a media - basically the surface tension of the water, how "hard" its sticking to the media particles
the plant has to overcome this force to pull it up from the media

Matric suction varies with the inherent soil condition in the site.

The osmotic suction is the pressure due to the dissolved solutes (i.e. salt) in the soil pore water. Osmotic suction influences the movement of water from a lower solute concentration region to a higher solute concentration region.

36:40

 

[Observer]

the matric potential of a media - basically the surface tension of the water, how "hard" its sticking to the media particles
the plant has to overcome this force to pull it up from the media

Matric suction varies with the inherent soil condition in the site.

The osmotic suction is the pressure due to the dissolved solutes (i.e. salt) in the soil pore water. Osmotic suction influences the movement of water from a lower solute concentration region to a higher solute concentration region.

36:40

and it varies A LOT from soil, to coco to rockwool and others and other variables.

 

[Observer]

Hehe

Awesome.

.2 E.C from tap another little bit from .5 Epsom that isn't needed but I just want to see, or "boost" for now for mG

Was aiming for 2.0 but didn't care to alter it to get exact

4.0g 9-17-28
3.0g 15-0-0
.5g magnesium sulfate
6ml 34%
3ml hypo acid pool shock

Veg solution is hint of green, bloom solution is clear.
-JRCROPTECH



DO sensor at some point to see if doing this increases DO, if any.

Stirs up alot of the surface area of the water and
atmo together.

Added little more tap 1.1gallon perhaps

 

[Observer]

Hehe

Awesome.

.2 E.C from tap another little bit from .5 Epsom that isn't needed but I just want to see, or "boost" for now for mG

Was aiming for 2.0 but didn't care to alter it to get exact

4.0g 9-17-28
3.0g 15-0-0
.5g magnesium sulfate
6ml 34%
3ml hypo acid pool shock

Veg solution is hint of green, bloom solution is clear.
-JRCROPTECH



DO sensor at some point to see if doing this increases DO, if any.

Stirs up alot of the surface area of the water and
atmo together.

Added little more tap 1.1gallon perhaps

Very cheap salts/nutrients and seemingly very effective

I only started using these when I got the pH pen.

 

[Observer]

Some flowers

 

[Observer]

Time to change out this water, just been sitting in it overnight

Not supposed to do this but whatever it's working for now and not much longer.

Last place shafted this grow hard just ready to get it over.

Some plants looking frosty though.

Should make for a nice little personal smoke till the next round with more than likely rockwool.

 

[Observer]

Getting a little frosty

From the seeds I bred

 

[Observer]

Mendo Kush, smells nice.

 

[Observer]

Maybe if I check the run off e.c/ppm and see how much it drops, subtract that amount from the normal starting solution and that's the new solution.

Maybe they'll get it more precise on what it's using and not and more accurate nutrient usage and less waste in DTW high-freq-fert.

 

[Observer]

Maybe if I check the run off e.c/ppm and see how much it drops, subtract that amount from the normal starting solution and that's the new solution.

Maybe they'll get it more precise on what it's using and not and more accurate nutrient usage and less waste in DTW high-freq-fert.

Would possibly equate to too low of E.C

 

[Observer]

Resources

JR Croptech Flower Nutrient Application Chart

jrcroptech.com

Some good PDFs here

Last one explains basics of how to crop steering simply

Quick reads

 

[Observer]

Amazon.com

got these coming Thursday

14$ for 200 1inch cubes, idea is ill root in these and then can place on bigger cubes that can then go on top of RW-Slabs

 

[Observer]

Not sure about the "quality" of these "rockwool" cubes but should work for starters/clones/seeds Atleast.

Of course that's expected though when paying only 14$ for 200ct 1x1x1 cubes from China lol

 

[Observer]

Getting fatter

Some are actually looking not too bad.