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Bandit420 said:
Nah I just don't have kids and all my shit like home and car is paid off except for yearly property taxes.
It was $89 flat for me, no xtra fees, free shipping, and it shipped from Utah so no taxes either.
Xhale is a startup offering it for $60 off it's MSRP right now. Even at $150 it's less than other slicers like Klip
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KTEL, it slices, it dices!
 
Update on XHale Grinders.

Still waiting to receive the product. Website indicates a two week waiting period before shipping.

I reached out to Josh, the co founder. I specifically asked about materials used and, if applicable, any coatings used.

His answer included the following, Food Grade SS blades. No coating on any surface that comes in contact with cannibas.

I thanked him for his reply and repeated his answer, to confirm he knows I read it, and then asked him to finish answering the questions regarding materials and coatings, that he ignored or dodged. And no, I didn't call him out. All my communications are respectful and professional.

I did not get a response.

Can't wait to receive the product. Although I am not worried about the money, the actions or inaction of the company concerns me. Had I known this was their business practices, I would have saved my money.

I have ZERO tolerance for shady companies and right now, XHale is shady as fuck, in my book. I know, I own this. I am the one who jumped right into the kiddy pool and drank the kool aid. But again, the money is irrelevant. It's the company and shady lack of communication.

I will say this, when Josh didn't respond to my second email, I waited a few days, as one does, and responded back saying the following...

"Have not heard back. I'm wishing you good vibes in hope all is good. Please respond when you are able."

Just a heads up. I am hoping I am just paranoid.
 
I just ordered the one I linked.
budwakker.com

Bud Wakker Herb Grinder - Coarse or Fine. Every Time.

Fully control your experience and perfect each grind with Bud Wakker. Effortless, fast and clog-free. Monitor consistency through a clear cover. Easy to clean. Durable and comes with a lifetime guarantee. This is the last grinder you'll ever need.
budwakker.com
They were on sale so have 2 coming for $55.
Will let everyone know if it works or not.
I like the idea of chopping with sharp blades.
 
Tremojem said:
Update on XHale Grinders.

Still waiting to receive the product. Website indicates a two week waiting period before shipping.

I reached out to Josh, the co founder. I specifically asked about materials used and, if applicable, any coatings used.

His answer included the following, Food Grade SS blades. No coating on any surface that comes in contact with cannibas.

I thanked him for his reply and repeated his answer, to confirm he knows I read it, and then asked him to finish answering the questions regarding materials and coatings, that he ignored or dodged. And no, I didn't call him out. All my communications are respectful and professional.

I did not get a response.

Can't wait to receive the product. Although I am not worried about the money, the actions or inaction of the company concerns me. Had I known this was their business practices, I would have saved my money.

I have ZERO tolerance for shady companies and right now, XHale is shady as fuck, in my book. I know, I own this. I am the one who jumped right into the kiddy pool and drank the kool aid. But again, the money is irrelevant. It's the company and shady lack of communication.

I will say this, when Josh didn't respond to my second email, I waited a few days, as one does, and responded back saying the following...

"Have not heard back. I'm wishing you good vibes in hope all is good. Please respond when you are able."

Just a heads up. I am hoping I am just paranoid.
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Pretty much the same here and it's the same thing I've dealt with buying something from a start-up in the past. I saw the lead time on orders and still ordered since I'm in no hurry for it.
Xhale is just a one man operation and even though he gives a physical address, it's still actually just a PO box.
My guess is he's making them when they get ordered in a machine shop or garage. Maybe he has a few demo units to take to cannabis cups and festivals but it does have wonky start-up biz tendencies I've seen in this industry many times before.
After six weeks from order I'll inquire and if I don't hear back in 24 hours, paypal claim.
I used paypal just in case I'd need an ez way to get my money back
 
I mean, really...come on. The website is littered with accolades from the likes of HT.

How bad could it be?

Here's me hoping and wishing.

Like you Bandit, I too, am in no hurry and can wait. Money isn't the issue either. We are just supporting the industry and are the quick ones to jump in. Hell, I paid premium dollars for a grinder from Grinders For Life, a Brilliant Cut Grinder, and with much regret.

Anyways, I bought into the hype cuz I needed some relief for my old tired hands and they claimed there was zero restrictions when grinding. I mean, I am not stupid, but all the videos made the SAME claim, and it appeared to work on the videos as there was no restrictions and after initial breakup of the bud, the fuckers were spinning the top with bud inside, with one finger. I was dooped.

I reached out to get replacement for what I thought was a defect. No no no my friend, it's used and you are past the point of no return. How the fuck are you supposed to know if it sucks, if you don't try it? I should have lied and claimed I tested it on basil, as it was no problem for them to make false claims.

Total garbage. Money wasted. The $25 Amazon grinder toasted the Brilliant Cut. Embarrassing, actually, for Grinders For Life.

So goes the lessons learned, or in this case...not learned. I just did it again with Xhale, by jumping in. Oh well, it is a little fucked, but whatever. That's what people like Bandit and I are good for. Checking shit out and letting you all know how it went. Hope I didn't insult you Bandit, by including you on my rant. My apologies if so.
 
Tremojem said:
I mean, really...come on. The website is littered with accolades from the likes of HT.

How bad could it be?

Here's me hoping and wishing.

Like you Bandit, I too, am in no hurry and can wait. Money isn't the issue either. We are just supporting the industry and are the quick ones to jump in. Hell, I paid premium dollars for a grinder from Grinders For Life, a Brilliant Cut Grinder, and with much regret.

Anyways, I bought into the hype cuz I needed some relief for my old tired hands and they claimed there was zero restrictions when grinding. I mean, I am not stupid, but all the videos made the SAME claim, and it appeared to work on the videos as there was no restrictions and after initial breakup of the bud, the fuckers were spinning the top with bud inside, with one finger. I was dooped.

I reached out to get replacement for what I thought was a defect. No no no my friend, it's used and you are past the point of no return. How the fuck are you supposed to know if it sucks, if you don't try it? I should have lied and claimed I tested it on basil, as it was no problem for them to make false claims.

Total garbage. Money wasted. The $25 Amazon grinder toasted the Brilliant Cut. Embarrassing, actually, for Grinders For Life.

So goes the lessons learned, or in this case...not learned. I just did it again with Xhale, by jumping in. Oh well, it is a little fucked, but whatever. That's what people like Bandit and I are good for. Checking shit out and letting you all know how it went. Hope I didn't insult you Bandit, by including you on my rant. My apologies if so.
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Naw man I'm not insulted. I've been one to jump in without looking many times before. I enjoy it really. ;fafo
There's so many products I've been in on the ground floor.
Airpots was one of the best. Got in with them back in 2010.
I have a bong made of carbon fiber from and airplane manufacturer who decided to start making bongs but eventually fizzled out. He doesn't make bongs anymore and went back to making airplane parts but today, I have a carbon fiber bong I can drop off a 7 story building and not break it. 😋

Another, Purpl Pro THC testing has had it's ups and downs I'm not sure many could take it before bailing out. I stuck with them and it eventually paid off. Now that device I bought for only $900 as a startup in 2016 is selling for $1600 and a pillar in the industry. Same thing with CLW lights, getting in early and cheap then watched the company explode in popularity.

And there's been failures along the way. Many of them but none that have broke the bank, just products that under-delivered.
The business model Xhale is using is one I've seen lots of times before. It's 50/50 success/failure at this point
 
Tremojem said:
Update on XHale Grinders.

Still waiting to receive the product. Website indicates a two week waiting period before shipping.

I reached out to Josh, the co founder. I specifically asked about materials used and, if applicable, any coatings used.

His answer included the following, Food Grade SS blades. No coating on any surface that comes in contact with cannibas.

I thanked him for his reply and repeated his answer, to confirm he knows I read it, and then asked him to finish answering the questions regarding materials and coatings, that he ignored or dodged. And no, I didn't call him out. All my communications are respectful and professional.

I did not get a response.

Can't wait to receive the product. Although I am not worried about the money, the actions or inaction of the company concerns me. Had I known this was their business practices, I would have saved my money.

I have ZERO tolerance for shady companies and right now, XHale is shady as fuck, in my book. I know, I own this. I am the one who jumped right into the kiddy pool and drank the kool aid. But again, the money is irrelevant. It's the company and shady lack of communication.

I will say this, when Josh didn't respond to my second email, I waited a few days, as one does, and responded back saying the following...

"Have not heard back. I'm wishing you good vibes in hope all is good. Please respond when you are able."

Just a heads up. I am hoping I am just paranoid.
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Reading what concerns you about grinders along with other replies here and what my own needs for one in regards to testing potency demands, I've decided to take on this project of developing a new grinder or slicer.
I'm pretty much using meat grinder tech similar to the new "slicers" like Xhale and Klip. I'm not interested in a crusher style grind. I need the weed to homogenized for testing, not mauled and mutilated with resin left behind in the grinder. Pretty much trying to get a touchless effect.
Still in R&D stages now but here's where it's going with the first rough prototype....

Not too happy with this blade that came with my kit so will be using a different one when it gets here Thursday. The new style will look like a Chinese throwing star and be slightly more dangerous.
All blue plastic is food grade 3d printer filament and all steel is food grade as well but more on precautions in a bit....

IMG_1546[1].jpeg

I consider kief collection in a grinder to be a useless and futile feature.
I'd rather have a grinder that doesn't keep anything so I've made the bottom collection bowl shaped and will later either adapt a stainless steel or food grade silicone bowl insert so no trich is left behind

IMG_1551[1].jpeg


Meat grinder plates. Lots of options to use in regards to how fine or chunky you want the grind and they can easily be removed along with the blade for cleaning in an iso soak

IMG_1547[1].jpeg

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The top and Spinner for the blade are still just a drawing on my PC but will come to life at some point today. Still working on perfecting the center part with spokes so it's on it's third print and each print for that part is a little over 7 hours.

The top that will have contact with the herb will have a silicone liner between it and the herb.
Eventually as it develops, the only plastic herb will come in contact with will be the spokes and side wall which are both food grade. Every other contact point will be either food grade silicone or food grade stainless steel. I would consider the toxicity contamination to be less than that of using a sandwich baggie for carrying some weed around.
 
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steamroller said:
Bud Wakker arrived today and is sooo nice for a bubble gum type tool.
Easy pull and quick to chop up buds.
Easy to see what is going on and how chopped up your bud is.
Brand new it gets a great rating.
I'll check in after a few miles.
It looks easy to clean so?

https://www.bing.com/videos/rivervi...61EE855A8C79003F63126&&mmscn=stvo&FORM=VRDGAR
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It looks like I’d break it. I’m careful with my stuff but I try to buy long lasting tools. I hope it’s up to your testing. 🍀
 
Tremojem said:
I mean, really...come on. The website is littered with accolades from the likes of HT.

How bad could it be?

Here's me hoping and wishing.

Like you Bandit, I too, am in no hurry and can wait. Money isn't the issue either. We are just supporting the industry and are the quick ones to jump in. Hell, I paid premium dollars for a grinder from Grinders For Life, a Brilliant Cut Grinder, and with much regret.

Anyways, I bought into the hype cuz I needed some relief for my old tired hands and they claimed there was zero restrictions when grinding. I mean, I am not stupid, but all the videos made the SAME claim, and it appeared to work on the videos as there was no restrictions and after initial breakup of the bud, the fuckers were spinning the top with bud inside, with one finger. I was dooped.

I reached out to get replacement for what I thought was a defect. No no no my friend, it's used and you are past the point of no return. How the fuck are you supposed to know if it sucks, if you don't try it? I should have lied and claimed I tested it on basil, as it was no problem for them to make false claims.

Total garbage. Money wasted. The $25 Amazon grinder toasted the Brilliant Cut. Embarrassing, actually, for Grinders For Life.

So goes the lessons learned, or in this case...not learned. I just did it again with Xhale, by jumping in. Oh well, it is a little fucked, but whatever. That's what people like Bandit and I are good for. Checking shit out and letting you all know how it went. Hope I didn't insult you Bandit, by including you on my rant. My apologies if so.
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It’s been about seven days since you last posted on this… you get it yet or has it even been shipped?
 
Bandit420 said:
Reading what concerns you about grinders along with other replies here and what my own needs for one in regards to testing potency demands, I've decided to take on this project of developing a new grinder or slicer.
I'm pretty much using meat grinder tech similar to the new "slicers" like Xhale and Klip. I'm not interested in a crusher style grind. I need the weed to homogenized for testing, not mauled and mutilated with resin left behind in the grinder. Pretty much trying to get a touchless effect.
Still in R&D stages now but here's where it's going with the first rough prototype....

Not too happy with this blade that came with my kit so will be using a different one when it gets here Thursday. The new style will look like a Chinese throwing star and be slightly more dangerous.
All blue plastic is food grade 3d printer filament and all steel is food grade as well but more on precautions in a bit....

View attachment 105779

I consider kief collection in a grinder to be a useless and futile feature.
I'd rather have a grinder that doesn't keep anything so I've made the bottom collection bowl shaped and will later either adapt a stainless steel or food grade silicone bowl insert so no trich is left behind

View attachment 105782


Meat grinder plates. Lots of options to use in regards to how fine or chunky you want the grind and they can easily be removed along with the blade for cleaning in an iso soak

View attachment 105780

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The top and Spinner for the blade are still just a drawing on my PC but will come to life at some point today. Still working on perfecting the center part with spokes so it's on it's third print and each print for that part is a little over 7 hours.

The top that will have contact with the herb will have a silicone liner between it and the herb.
Eventually as it develops, the only plastic herb will come in contact with will be the spokes and side wall which are both food grade. Every other contact point will be either food grade silicone or food grade stainless steel. I would consider the toxicity contamination to be less than that of using a sandwich baggie for carrying some weed around.
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Cool. Looking forward to the end result.

Until 2008 all I used was surgical scissors in a pill bottle. Put in the weed and chop until happy.

On a vacation with buddies in Amsterdam we all bought metal grinders. They opted for the kief catcher but I don’t see the point of saving what I can smoke now so got a regular one.

After I started growing I found I needed a bigger grinder. Seems anything I could find came with the keif catcher. A little disappointed as I rarely remember to empty it…but when I do it’s usually got enough to make hash. Still I’d rather smoke it with the weed fresh.

I tried using an old coffee grinder before I started growing. It was okay but I didn’t like it. It’s also more work to clean.

I like smoking out of a pipe. Pipe tobacco is longer, more stringy than chopped or chunky. A normal grinder leaves too many small particles that end up in your mouth or in the stem over time. I’m wondering if your design would make the weed more string like?

I’ve been on the fence about buying a new grinder that chops as it a lot more $$$. So watching this thread and now your design before making any new purchases.
 
Zen_seeker said:
Cool. Looking forward to the end result.

Until 2008 all I used was surgical scissors in a pill bottle. Put in the weed and chop until happy.

On a vacation with buddies in Amsterdam we all bought metal grinders. They opted for the kief catcher but I don’t see the point of saving what I can smoke now so got a regular one.

After I started growing I found I needed a bigger grinder. Seems anything I could find came with the keif catcher. A little disappointed as I rarely remember to empty it…but when I do it’s usually got enough to make hash. Still I’d rather smoke it with the weed fresh.

I tried using an old coffee grinder before I started growing. It was okay but I didn’t like it. It’s also more work to clean.

I like smoking out of a pipe. Pipe tobacco is longer, more stringy than chopped or chunky. A normal grinder leaves too many small particles that end up in your mouth or in the stem over time. I’m wondering if your design would make the weed more string like?

I’ve been on the fence about buying a new grinder that chops as it a lot more $$$. So watching this thread and now your design before making any new purchases.
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Thanks man.
When it's made by stoners for stoners, it will always hit a little different.;gr

I'm in the same category as Tre waiting to hear from Xhale so in the meantime, I'll figure it out. It's a fun pet project really.

What I've learned over the past week in regards to parts is that some of these grinder people should be ashamed of the prices they're asking.
Something like Klip or Xhale is very unique but lets be real here...There's about $15-$35 worth of material/parts in there and much of it is already made for another industry such as butchers and meat grinding. When I see a $180 grinder, all I really see is something that cost at most $40 to make. Double it up for retail profit and it should be $80 on the shelf in the USA.

I'll have STL files soon as well as recommended meat grinder parts kits so it will be print, assemble, play for you guys north of the border.
The prints are basic for the most part except for the center section which requires build support.
Each piece should be on the highest quality settings your slicer program has. It will add print time but the end quality is worth it.

If people will want to buy one of these grinders made to order I don't think it will be more than $35+shipping. Plate kit and better blade is the biggest expense and together they're only $25 for each grinder. If I search more I may be able to get that even lower but maybe only have one plate and one blade.


My pal running the hydroshop grows tobacco and it's a totally different animal. It's a large leaf kinda like rhubarb or something and is best processed thru a machine that looks like a paper shredder but is fed manually and has a hand crank to roll the leaves thru it.
Tobacco is a really cool plant to grow too. Pops a cool trumpet looking flower cluster and makes a great ornamental plant if it likes your climate. Kinda tropical looking.
 
I'm onto something but will definitely need the different blade for it to work how I think it should.
I'll also need to change up the spinner handle. The leaf is cool but uncomfortable.
With this blade and weed with about 12-15% moisture activity it didn't fare too well. Dispo dry AF weed it would probably do fine but it needs a different style blade for sure before I tweak anything other than the handle for now...

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without the press cover

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My idea is to take 7 nugs and sort of get them in a head lock while the blade below shaves them down

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The top is two pieces being the top and press then the spinner on top with a shaft that goes thru the whole body and locks into the blade

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I like the press feature.
The Bud Wakker uses gravity so can need to be bounced around sometimes.
 
Tremojem said:
Nice work there...
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I got a reply from Xhale today...July 22 is the ship date.
I was a bit harsh in my inquiry and told him to give my money back since the product does not exist and I was filing a claim w/ paypal.
Got a same day reply and a ship date lol.

Still working on my 3D printed option. Still searching for the perfect blade
 
Yea, I too, am three weeks in, and no update or reply from my email query.

So I contacted my CC company and filed a claim. My account was credited in hours.

I received a personal email from Josh within hours of my refund. He claimed delays and said he issued a full refund as if it was voluntary on his end. He asked if I would like to be on a waiting list.

I have not replied, as he ghosted me at first, so now let's see how he likes it.

I actually feel bad. I wanted the product.

Good luck on your blade hunt.
 
that really sucks.. i'm all for a small timer making a new product and trying to bust their way in but ghosting your customers is no way to get started. i bet both of you guys would be totally understanding if he would have sent you a message.. i mean lets face it modern business men are glued to their cell phones, it only takes less than a minute to send a message. there is no excuse not to.

i get messages for my business every day just about and it takes me on an average of just 5-7 seconds to write back. no excuse for ghosting!
 
Stoneyluv said:
that really sucks.. i'm all for a small timer making a new product and trying to bust their way in but ghosting your customers is no way to get started. i bet both of you guys would be totally understanding if he would have sent you a message.. i mean lets face it modern business men are glued to their cell phones, it only takes less than a minute to send a message. there is no excuse not to.

i get messages for my business every day just about and it takes me on an average of just 5-7 seconds to write back. no excuse for ghosting!
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There's a culture within a generation or two where ghosting is a "hack" in life. They're very wrong.
Ghosting is a huge issue with my wife's employees who cycle thru the entry level positions. About 5 jobs a year and can only fill 3 reliably. The other two are a revolving door of no shows and ghosting.
Ghosting during the interviews is a major issue and now they're pretty cut throat about it with zero tolerance.
In my business, it always means you either didn't do your job or your bullshitting. There's no in between because #1 people are always looking at their phone and other than an emergency should be able to at least send a text.
We're well past any coddling it's happened so much and often. There is no warning and a second chance. It's you didn't call, you're fired. Business, same thing. Get one chance to do their part and if not, sick buyer protection on them. You have to actually threaten firing or sicking a lawyer on them for a response.
The honor of being a square dealer and straight shooter is lost on many.
 
i'm right with them man, i don't put up with it either. i've been ghosted in both biz and personal and i won't stand for either anymore. maybe in my younger days i had more patience for it but not today.. if it's biz ghosting i'll never buy from again and will tell everybody i know. if it's personal and somebody wants to take their love from me then i don't want it back!

this happened with me with cream city vapes, i feel like such a chump and i will never let that happen to me again. i wish i would have been more pro active and wasn't and by time i tried to go legal it was too late. never again is all i can say! those fuckers stole $385 of mine a few years ago.
 
Coming back to say one of the best grinders I have ever used~!
budwakker.com

Bud Wakker Herb Grinder - Coarse or Fine. Every Time.

Fully control your experience and perfect each grind with Bud Wakker. Effortless, fast and clog-free. Monitor consistency through a clear cover. Easy to clean. Durable and comes with a lifetime guarantee. This is the last grinder you'll ever need.
budwakker.com
Super easy to use and clean but I have not cleaned it yet.
Nicely built. If it gets jammed you just stuffed it too much.
Real quick and easy learning curve with it.
Highly recommended.
Love having chopped herb rather than ground.;hop
 
steamroller said:
Coming back to say one of the best grinders I have ever used~!
budwakker.com

Bud Wakker Herb Grinder - Coarse or Fine. Every Time.

Fully control your experience and perfect each grind with Bud Wakker. Effortless, fast and clog-free. Monitor consistency through a clear cover. Easy to clean. Durable and comes with a lifetime guarantee. This is the last grinder you'll ever need.
budwakker.com
Super easy to use and clean but I have not cleaned it yet.
Nicely built. If it gets jammed you just stuffed it too much.
Real quick and easy learning curve with it.
Highly recommended.
Love having chopped herb rather than ground.;hop
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Honestly it’s the plastic yoyo look that throws me off. Gives me the impression it’s cheap and easy to break. We have a few freebie plastic grinders we tried once or twice and never used again.

It’ll be interesting to see how it holds up over steady use. 🤔
 
steamroller said:
Coming back to say one of the best grinders I have ever used~!
budwakker.com

Bud Wakker Herb Grinder - Coarse or Fine. Every Time.

Fully control your experience and perfect each grind with Bud Wakker. Effortless, fast and clog-free. Monitor consistency through a clear cover. Easy to clean. Durable and comes with a lifetime guarantee. This is the last grinder you'll ever need.
budwakker.com
Super easy to use and clean but I have not cleaned it yet.
Nicely built. If it gets jammed you just stuffed it too much.
Real quick and easy learning curve with it.
Highly recommended.
Love having chopped herb rather than ground.;hop
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can you grind enough in one spin to fill a joint? or do ya have to grind a few times to get enough?
 
steamroller said:
I grind up to 3 joints at once depending on the buds hardness.
Sometimes I grind twice for 3+.
It takes like 15 seconds.
1 joint easy peasy.
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alright, might make for some nice gifts! i'm thinking on it.. cheaper by the dozen kind off thing.

is it your go to grinder right now?
 
Yea my old spinner was really a PIA so this is it. It reall is easier than any other grinder I have used.
I bought two and now there is a sale buy 4 get 1 free.
I can send you my extra to try out and if you like just pass it to Bandit after you get yours for his testing.
 
steamroller said:
Yea my old spinner was really a PIA so this is it. It reall is easier than any other grinder I have used.
I bought two and now there is a sale buy 4 get 1 free.
I can send you my extra to try out and if you like just pass it to Bandit after you get yours for his testing.
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just bought five for $80 ... $16 each makes a great gift or prize!!
 
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