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SpectrumFarms

SpectrumFarms

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Hey guys, now that work projects aren’t overwhelming let’s see if I can do a weekly update this round. Trying my hand at a no-veg run in 18oz solo cups.

Medium of choice is coco with some perlite

Nutrients: Lotus cal-mag, grow, bloom and boost and for the seedling stage Botanicare Liquid Karma

Lights: SF1000 & SF G4500

Genetics: Elev8 Gelato #33, Atlas Fog Dog, Rasta Jeff’s Frequency Shift, Khalifa Kush bagseed? Jar seed what are we calling them these days? And one of our resident advisors @Bandit420 Haunted Banana.

Day 2 above medium. Rh 78% temp 77.5 the lights just came on and they are looking leggy so I pulled the light a bit closer and gave them a very light .2 EC feeding of liquid karma. They are under 18/6 until day 21. Right now they are sitting under the SF1000 in a 2x2 easier to keep the humidity high in small space. They will be moved to a 2x4 under a G4500 once they they handle a 60 rh.
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Day 8 above medium.

Still have some leggy ladies, all the legging ones are sativas so I’m assuming that’s part of the issue. Plan to pot up to a slightly deeper pots for them for support. IMG_7430.jpeg

RH: 65%
Temp: 77
EC: 1.3
PAR: 155
 
steamroller said:
As long as I have room I never loose runts.
I have had some crazy herb from the mutants.
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I’m in the school of thought waste not want not. Im excited to see how this one turns out, it was fire from the dispo and worth keeping for the medical benefits I get from it. Planning on reversing the larger gal and making some Khalifa Kush S1🤞

@Bandit420 the fourth picture down with the picture of the six plants, those are all Haunted Banana. These are vigorous plants my guy! Just to give you some feedback I germinated 12 seeds and had 100% germ rate. I just narrowed it down to these 6 based on how fast they sprouted taproots at around 48 hours and these had an inch long root. They are all very close in width and height with very uniform structure. I tried using the VG and failed the first go, I’m positive it was temperature related. I plan on trying it again this weekend.
 
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SpectrumFarms said:
I’m in the school of thought waste not want not. Im excited to see how this one turns out, it was fire from the dispo and worth keeping for the medical benefits I get from it. Planning on reversing the larger gal and making some Khalifa Kush S1🤞

@Bandit420 the fourth picture down with the picture of the six plants, those are all Haunted Banana. These are vigorous plants my guy! Just to give you some feedback I germinated 12 seeds and had 100% germ rate. I just narrowed it down to these 6 based on how fast they sprouted taproots at around 48 hours and these had an inch long root. They are all very close in width and height with very uniform structure. I tried using the VG and failed the first go, I’m positive it was temperature related. I plan on trying it again this weekend.
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Good to hear Buddy!
I think from you, Zen, and what I grew it's safe to say HB has no desire to be a small plant at all so any indica traits are tamped down making her a full on hybrid with some sativa lean. I think the Ghost Train Haze is strong in her.
I flipped mine at right around the next one or two nodes yours are at and it finished at around 5' tall. She stretched but nothing that couldn't be managed
 
SpectrumFarms said:
This is what I’ve been doing the past few runs. Mine usually end up at 1.6 during veg and 1.8 -1.9 during flower. I’ll definitely keep an eye out for over feeding though.
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Measure the run off E.C.

if you're input E.C is 1.3, and the output E.C/run off e.c is 1.0, they are more or Unless only uptaking 0.3 e.c.

This can also cause osmotic pressure stress, too many ions and it becomes more difficult to uptake.

So, 1.0 is wasted out the bottom.

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Max said:
That’s a pretty high ec for seedling.mine don’t get that for the entire grow.at that age im at 180ppm 500 scale.
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They probably aren't uptaking all of it.
 
Observer said:
They probably aren't uptaking all of it.
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I guess I need to revisit some info I’ve read over the years. Hell the plants get .3 EC on day 2 above coco. Not going above 1.3 the whole run too, I had a plant eat itself feeding at 1.2 because it wasn’t enough. Guess I’m just confused at the moment.
 
SpectrumFarms said:
I guess I need to revisit some info I’ve read over the years. Hell the plants get .3 EC on day 2 above coco. Not going above 1.3 the whole run too, I had a plant eat itself feeding at 1.2 because it wasn’t enough. Guess I’m just confused at the moment.
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i mean they could be, checking the run off/output E.C will u give u a rough idea on how much they are though.
 
Observer said:
i mean they could be, checking the run off/output E.C will u give u a rough idea on how much they are though.
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I spent my lunch researching this…there is so much conflicting information on the EC in coco. I’ve been butt chugging these plants I’ve only top fed twice. Tonight I think I’ll top feed and measure the outflow and report back my findings! To be honest I never check my outflow unless I’m seeing signs of stress. If I’m wasting nutes I’d rather not with how expensive things are today.
 
SpectrumFarms said:
I spent my lunch researching this…there is so much conflicting information on the EC in coco.
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Yea easier to just start low

start low and work up from there depending on plant observations, plants needs.

0.1 E.C to 3.0, won't really need to go higher unless cropsteering and osmotic pressure stressing the plants.
SpectrumFarms said:
I’ve been butt chugging these plants I’ve only top fed twice. Tonight I think I’ll top feed and measure the outflow and report back my findings! To be honest I never check my outflow unless I’m seeing signs of stress. If I’m wasting nutes I’d rather not with how expensive things are today.
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Observer said:
Yea easier to just start low

start low and work up from there depending on plant observations, plants needs.

0.1 E.C to 3.0, won't really need to go higher unless cropsteering and osmotic pressure stressing the plants.
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Checking the input<output is what is needed.

If you're output E.C is not within 0.3 E.C~ or so, nutes are being wasted/nutrient ratio is off for the plants/genes needs, and possibly stressing the plants with too much Ions.

Half the shit you'll read depending on source might be incorrect if they are not even suggesting checking output E.C atleast...

and I think this is also why I did not need to water till run off the last run because my E.C was dialed.
 
Observer said:
Checking the input<output is what is needed.

If you're output E.C is not within 0.3 E.C~ or so, nutes are being wasted/nutrient ratio is off for the plants/genes needs, and possibly stressing the plants with too much Ions.

Half the shit you'll read depending on source might be incorrect if they are not even suggesting checking output E.C atleast...

and I think this is also why I did not need to water till run off the last run because my E.C was dialed.
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Today is the first day I’ll have time to pull them out and I’m going to measure all the outflow and see what’s happening. I appreciate you guys bringing it to my attention. I’m still green and if the plants look ok I don’t investigate. I do keep a notebook and take notes every-time I’m in the tents. I’ll add this to the checklist!
 
It’s day 20 and I’m flipping these ladies and dudes to flower. I moved four plants to the veg tent, a KK and Frequency Shift that are going to a growmate. I’m also attempting to self a gelato and another one of the KKs. I was able to measure the outflow EC on each of these cultivars last night and tonight. This is what I gathered, my inflow EC has been 1.3 outflows are below.
Gelato 1.5
KK 1.6
HB 1.5
Freq Shit 1.4
Fog Dog 1.6
Everything is slightly above my inflow. Is that a problem? The plants seem healthy and happy. 🤷
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Plants have made it to day 7 of 12/12. All looking pretty healthy, now just waiting for the plants to show me their parts. The Rasta Jeff plants are monsters. Thinking I’m going to pot them up to one gallons.IMG_7551.jpeg
 
SpectrumFarms said:
It’s day 20 and I’m flipping these ladies and dudes to flower. I moved four plants to the veg tent, a KK and Frequency Shift that are going to a growmate. I’m also attempting to self a gelato and another one of the KKs. I was able to measure the outflow EC on each of these cultivars last night and tonight. This is what I gathered, my inflow EC has been 1.3 outflows are below.
Gelato 1.5
KK 1.6
HB 1.5
Freq Shit 1.4
Fog Dog 1.6
Everything is slightly above my inflow. Is that a problem? The plants seem healthy and happy. 🤷
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I am pretty sure that the EC should be slightly above or slightly below the input. But I am still learning. I would interested to here what @Aqua Man has to say on this subject.
 
Doobie said:
I am pretty sure that the EC should be slightly above or slightly below the input. But I am still learning. I would interested to here what @Aqua Man has to say on this subject.
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I actually lowered the feedings to 1.0 the out flow has been 1.1 - 1.2. I’m happy that they are happy with two less tablespoons of bloom.
 
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