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Good morning tokers and growers, how are you all on this sunny, but chilly morning, hope your all well. :) As some of you folk know, its now a struggle to have a toke for me these days, so if I'm going to remain a stoner, then I'll have to change my path. Edibles are the way forward, that way I can carry on growing and getting high, but I'll have to modify my intake methods to suit my no smoke stance. I've decided to take the Green Dragon route, as this is as easy as it gets, I already have a stack of cannabis to get going, and I can scam all the bits I need from Santa for Christmas, making it a cheap start up for a change. The Everclear is here, so I can start by drowning some weed in jam jars and experiment a little.
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I like the Green Dragon approach, as I can use it on its own, or drop it into some thing else, the spice of life and all that. 🙂 I had a good swallow of the Everclear, and I have to say, it is fiery stuff, just like the poitin made in Ireland that we consumed as kids, which is a potato whisky, very different taste to the corn moonshine that everclear is, I can see why they use everclear to sterilise things in laboratories, because if you were a bug, you wouldn't stand a chance. 😁 I've started out with 9 grams of weed to 200ml of everclear, but this seems a lot of alcohol for that amount of weed, so I can see that being reduced in the future. The weed and alcohol are placed into a pound honey jar, this seems a good amount of space to shake the weed around in. (y) Been advised by my buddy and now mentor for this project, that the jars need a good shake twice a day for a week, no great hardship. 🙂 So the weed was scaled up to the required amount. 👍
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Five jars were filled, four were marked up with week 1 to week 4, this is how long they will be left until they are tested. One jar, which is just a tester to see if there is any difference between them all, and whether a couple of days or weeks makes any difference at all, because everyone you speak to has a different idea, and the net is awash with info, some fairly conflicting. So we'll see what how it goes. 🙂
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The weed that was used in this project was some good weed I grew a while ago called The Church. Nice weed, but made me cough, so it was kicked to the side for other strains that didn't.👍
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I was going to skip the weed prep part, but maybe this topic might help anther member walking the same path, so here's what I did. First off you have to bake the weed in the oven, I'll skip the science as you can look it up if you feel the need. I have a gas oven, so I warmed it up to gas mark one and a half, this is 250f or 121c for other types of ovens. 👍 The baking times will vary depending on your weed, mine was good and dry already, so ten minutes sorted mine just fine. 👌

Before baking, you can see its green.
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After baking, you can see its golden. 👌
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Golden is the aim of the game, then I just jar it up, mark the lids with the date, and that's it, let it get on with it, giving the jars a shake a couple of times a day. 👍
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I've made up four jars, which I aim to test one a week, then see which I think is the best for the length of time its in the jar. And that is where I am at the minute, later on today I'll be sticking my finger in the tester jar, purely for scientific reasons. 😁 I'll update you as the other four jars mature, and hopefully I'll have a propper result. So there you are, now you know what I'm up to. There was some other boring stuff I could have added, like washing the jars, but I've spared you that. 😁 So all that's left is to wish you all well for the coming week, until the next update, just keep toking folks. 👍
 
Good luck, I’m interested in what your tests show to be the optimum time to soak the bud.

I was under the impression that alcohol was very quick but I’ve never seen anything definite.
 
Good luck, I’m interested in what your tests show to be the optimum time to soak the bud.

I was under the impression that alcohol was very quick but I’ve never seen anything definite.

Yes, definite was what I was aiming at, stay tuned, and we'll see where it leads us. 👍
 
Good morning tokers and growers, how are you all on this sunny, but chilly morning, hope your all well. :) As some of you folk know, its now a struggle to have a toke for me these days, so if I'm going to remain a stoner, then I'll have to change my path. Edibles are the way forward, that way I can carry on growing and getting high, but I'll have to modify my intake methods to suit my no smoke stance. I've decided to take the Green Dragon route, as this is as easy as it gets, I already have a stack of cannabis to get going, and I can scam all the bits I need from Santa for Christmas, making it a cheap start up for a change. The Everclear is here, so I can start by drowning some weed in jam jars and experiment a little.
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I like the Green Dragon approach, as I can use it on its own, or drop it into some thing else, the spice of life and all that. 🙂 I had a good swallow of the Everclear, and I have to say, it is fiery stuff, just like the poitin made in Ireland that we consumed as kids, which is a potato whisky, very different taste to the corn moonshine that everclear is, I can see why they use everclear to sterilise things in laboratories, because if you were a bug, you wouldn't stand a chance. 😁 I've started out with 9 grams of weed to 200ml of everclear, but this seems a lot of alcohol for that amount of weed, so I can see that being reduced in the future. The weed and alcohol are placed into a pound honey jar, this seems a good amount of space to shake the weed around in. (y) Been advised by my buddy and now mentor for this project, that the jars need a good shake twice a day for a week, no great hardship. 🙂 So the weed was scaled up to the required amount. 👍
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Five jars were filled, four were marked up with week 1 to week 4, this is how long they will be left until they are tested. One jar, which is just a tester to see if there is any difference between them all, and whether a couple of days or weeks makes any difference at all, because everyone you speak to has a different idea, and the net is awash with info, some fairly conflicting. So we'll see what how it goes. 🙂
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The weed that was used in this project was some good weed I grew a while ago called The Church. Nice weed, but made me cough, so it was kicked to the side for other strains that didn't.👍
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I was going to skip the weed prep part, but maybe this topic might help anther member walking the same path, so here's what I did. First off you have to bake the weed in the oven, I'll skip the science as you can look it up if you feel the need. I have a gas oven, so I warmed it up to gas mark one and a half, this is 250f or 121c for other types of ovens. 👍 The baking times will vary depending on your weed, mine was good and dry already, so ten minutes sorted mine just fine. 👌

Before baking, you can see its green.
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After baking, you can see its golden. 👌
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Golden is the aim of the game, then I just jar it up, mark the lids with the date, and that's it, let it get on with it, giving the jars a shake a couple of times a day. 👍
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I've made up four jars, which I aim to test one a week, then see which I think is the best for the length of time its in the jar. And that is where I am at the minute, later on today I'll be sticking my finger in the tester jar, purely for scientific reasons. 😁 I'll update you as the other four jars mature, and hopefully I'll have a propper result. So there you are, now you know what I'm up to. There was some other boring stuff I could have added, like washing the jars, but I've spared you that. 😁 So all that's left is to wish you all well for the coming week, until the next update, just keep toking folks. 👍
Very nice, I tried this a few years back, I still have the Green Dragon, not sure what to do with it now. I soaked mine and put it in the freezer for a 2 weeks, shaking every day or
It taste like shit...lol that's as far as its gone.

It took me a 1200 km round trip and 20 joints with my son 1 hot summer day day to get. the Everclear. Long trip started early got home late
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Very nice, I tried this a few years back, I still have the Green Dragon, not sure what to do with it now. I soaked mine and put it in the freezer for a 2 weeks, shaking every day or
It taste like shit...lol that's as far as its gone.

It took me a 1200 km round trip and 20 joints with my son 1 hot summer day day to get. the Everclear. Long trip started early got home late
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That is a long way to travel, and yes it does taste like shit. 😁 Currently I'm going to put it in a dropper bottle when they arrive and see how it goes. add some to food and drink a few drops at a time, or just take it by mouth, firstly to try to remain conscious after eating or drinking the stuff, as I seem to have a habit of nodding off. 😁
 
Sweet.
Good morning tokers and growers, how are you all on this sunny, but chilly morning, hope your all well. :) As some of you folk know, its now a struggle to have a toke for me these days, so if I'm going to remain a stoner, then I'll have to change my path. Edibles are the way forward, that way I can carry on growing and getting high, but I'll have to modify my intake methods to suit my no smoke stance. I've decided to take the Green Dragon route, as this is as easy as it gets, I already have a stack of cannabis to get going, and I can scam all the bits I need from Santa for Christmas, making it a cheap start up for a change. The Everclear is here, so I can start by drowning some weed in jam jars and experiment a little.
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I like the Green Dragon approach, as I can use it on its own, or drop it into some thing else, the spice of life and all that. 🙂 I had a good swallow of the Everclear, and I have to say, it is fiery stuff, just like the poitin made in Ireland that we consumed as kids, which is a potato whisky, very different taste to the corn moonshine that everclear is, I can see why they use everclear to sterilise things in laboratories, because if you were a bug, you wouldn't stand a chance. 😁 I've started out with 9 grams of weed to 200ml of everclear, but this seems a lot of alcohol for that amount of weed, so I can see that being reduced in the future. The weed and alcohol are placed into a pound honey jar, this seems a good amount of space to shake the weed around in. (y) Been advised by my buddy and now mentor for this project, that the jars need a good shake twice a day for a week, no great hardship. 🙂 So the weed was scaled up to the required amount. 👍
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Five jars were filled, four were marked up with week 1 to week 4, this is how long they will be left until they are tested. One jar, which is just a tester to see if there is any difference between them all, and whether a couple of days or weeks makes any difference at all, because everyone you speak to has a different idea, and the net is awash with info, some fairly conflicting. So we'll see what how it goes. 🙂
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The weed that was used in this project was some good weed I grew a while ago called The Church. Nice weed, but made me cough, so it was kicked to the side for other strains that didn't.👍
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I was going to skip the weed prep part, but maybe this topic might help anther member walking the same path, so here's what I did. First off you have to bake the weed in the oven, I'll skip the science as you can look it up if you feel the need. I have a gas oven, so I warmed it up to gas mark one and a half, this is 250f or 121c for other types of ovens. 👍 The baking times will vary depending on your weed, mine was good and dry already, so ten minutes sorted mine just fine. 👌

Before baking, you can see its green.
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After baking, you can see its golden. 👌
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Golden is the aim of the game, then I just jar it up, mark the lids with the date, and that's it, let it get on with it, giving the jars a shake a couple of times a day. 👍
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I've made up four jars, which I aim to test one a week, then see which I think is the best for the length of time its in the jar. And that is where I am at the minute, later on today I'll be sticking my finger in the tester jar, purely for scientific reasons. 😁 I'll update you as the other four jars mature, and hopefully I'll have a propper result. So there you are, now you know what I'm up to. There was some other boring stuff I could have added, like washing the jars, but I've spared you that. 😁 So all that's left is to wish you all well for the coming week, until the next update, just keep toking folks. 👍


Seems like something I could do with cheap materiel costs

I'll be following along, I might wanna try this
 
That is a long way to travel, and yes it does taste like shit. 😁 Currently I'm going to put it in a dropper bottle when they arrive and see how it goes. add some to food and drink a few drops at a time, or just take it by mouth, firstly to try to remain conscious after eating or drinking the stuff, as I seem to have a habit of nodding off. 😁
Yeah you don’t wanna b going on long excursions lol,or even going someplace local and the shit starts hitting ya and you start changing.
 
So @SweetLeafGrow showed the distiller he used. I got one.
Not sure if they are still available but you could use a water one and add water to it for safety.
After you reclaim the alcohol you will be left with just the 'oil' which can be installed into a gel cap and you swallow it with no taste and then pass out~!
Any distiller with temp setting would work. The alcohol cooks off before the water safely.
Here is an article written on how to safely and effectively use water also.
 
So @SweetLeafGrow showed the distiller he used. I got one.
Not sure if they are still available but you could use a water one and add water to it for safety.
After you reclaim the alcohol you will be left with just the 'oil' which can be installed into a gel cap and you swallow it with no taste and then pass out~!
Any distiller with temp setting would work. The alcohol cooks off before the water safely.
Here is an article written on how to safely and effectively use water also.
Just a word on that Vevor table top distillation machine ... If you're going to buy one, get the extended warranty. I Purchased my first one 2 years ago. I purchased my second one in February 2024. Neither one is still working correctly. It's a prime example of substandard electrical components. I get an "E1"error on both units. They shut down while heating the water to boil and then need to cool off to be restarted again. I'm 2 for 2 with this issue.

I will recommend making your RSO into distillate using a distiller, that part works very well. However, I can't recommend Vevor for your distillation unit. Instead, I purchased this:


and a hotplate to heat the unit.
 
Good luck, I’m interested in what your tests show to be the optimum time to soak the bud.

I was under the impression that alcohol was very quick but I’ve never seen anything definite.
How long you soak in alcohol depends on several factors ...

A) what kind of alcohol you use.
B) Solvent temperature.

Isopropyl will dissolve more chlorophyl so that should be a quick wash. You also need to be sure all the alcohol is purged because Isopropyl is toxic. Everclear is a safer medium for sure. Chilled down, it's not going to extract near as much chloryphyl
 
Just a word on that Vevor table top distillation machine ... If you're going to buy one, get the extended warranty. I Purchased my first one 2 years ago. I purchased my second one in February 2024. Neither one is still working correctly. It's a prime example of substandard electrical components. I get an "E1"error on both units. They shut down while heating the water to boil and then need to cool off to be restarted again. I'm 2 for 2 with this issue.

I will recommend making your RSO into distillate using a distiller, that part works very well. However, I can't recommend Vevor for your distillation unit. Instead, I purchased this:


and a hotplate to heat the unit.
Before the distiller I used a rice cooker [ outside ].
No recovery of solvent but that was all for ISO.
Rice cookers are cheap @ $20 or so.
 
Good morning tokers and growers, how are you all on this cold rainy Winter Solstice morning, hope your all well. (y) This week see's us testing the week one jar.
Week 1 jar 4.
An update on last weeks tester jars consisting of 9g of weed and 200ml of Everclear, jar number four, left for seven days, shaken twice a day. The open jar was left in a warm room, and one of the spare grow room fans was placed next to it on low, this was to evaporate the required amount of alcohol from the jar and leave more of the stuff we're interested in. 😁 I was busy, and forgot about the jar, and by the time I had remembered, the alcohol had dropped down to 45ml. 🫣 This it turned out was a fine thing, as I now had the jar liquid able to fit in exactly four dropper bottles of 10ml each, result. 🙂 Now what to do with it now I have it? The obvious answer was to test it, so I did, I used a pipet to drop four drops under my tongue, and I have to say I had a hit equal to a couple of pulls on a joint, not a bad start, the temptation was to have another four, but I managed to stick to the plan, the plan being to find out, how good a hit, and how long it would last. This is the information I was after, thing is, its ok being unconscious at home when you have the time, and its bliss when you can, but not when your out to dinner with your best friends, or at the traffic lights when the cops pull up. 👮‍♂️ What I need is controllability, the ability to be stoned and a little more compos mentis than the shortbread or brownie method. 🤣 I think this fits the bill, as it seems to be, or could be drop specific, bit like nipping your joint after a couple of pulls, or only smoking half. So I now have a bit of a guide line of manufacture to work with. Some strains will be stronger than others, so that will have to be factored in, and tested, and who wouldn't volunteer for the testing job if it was on offer. 🙂 All in all, things have worked out well for week one. Looking forward to week two. 🙂

This is the Green Dragon after its filtered from jar 4.
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From jar 4 I made 4 dropper bottles. 👍
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The liquid turned out clearer than I thought it would. 👍
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On the stirring side of things, I don't think a quick shake is good enough. 🤔
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There are still a lot of trykes still attached to the buds. So I've invested in a coffee frother to beat more trykes off. 🥊
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Since the first tests, I've settled on a good quick method of ingestion, squirt a dropper or two into a cup of coffee, this hides the taste really well, not that its that bad, but it stops the alcohol burning your mouth, and evaporates most of the alcohol. 👌 The next test will be from the jar marked number three, from this jar I'll evaporate the alcohol down to three dropper bottles, thus making it more potent than this weeks four droppers. So I'll keep stirring the jars for another week, and we'll see what happens then. I'm off for a coffee, so until next week, just keep tokin folks. 👍
 
Good morning tokers and growers, how are you all on this cold rainy Winter Solstice morning, hope your all well. (y) This week see's us testing the week one jar.
Week 1 jar 4.
An update on last weeks tester jars consisting of 9g of weed and 200ml of Everclear, jar number four, left for seven days, shaken twice a day. The open jar was left in a warm room, and one of the spare grow room fans was placed next to it on low, this was to evaporate the required amount of alcohol from the jar and leave more of the stuff we're interested in. 😁 I was busy, and forgot about the jar, and by the time I had remembered, the alcohol had dropped down to 45ml. 🫣 This it turned out was a fine thing, as I now had the jar liquid able to fit in exactly four dropper bottles of 10ml each, result. 🙂 Now what to do with it now I have it? The obvious answer was to test it, so I did, I used a pipet to drop four drops under my tongue, and I have to say I had a hit equal to a couple of pulls on a joint, not a bad start, the temptation was to have another four, but I managed to stick to the plan, the plan being to find out, how good a hit, and how long it would last. This is the information I was after, thing is, its ok being unconscious at home when you have the time, and its bliss when you can, but not when your out to dinner with your best friends, or at the traffic lights when the cops pull up. 👮‍♂️ What I need is controllability, the ability to be stoned and a little more compos mentis than the shortbread or brownie method. 🤣 I think this fits the bill, as it seems to be, or could be drop specific, bit like nipping your joint after a couple of pulls, or only smoking half. So I now have a bit of a guide line of manufacture to work with. Some strains will be stronger than others, so that will have to be factored in, and tested, and who wouldn't volunteer for the testing job if it was on offer. 🙂 All in all, things have worked out well for week one. Looking forward to week two. 🙂

This is the Green Dragon after its filtered from jar 4.
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From jar 4 I made 4 dropper bottles. 👍
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The liquid turned out clearer than I thought it would. 👍
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On the stirring side of things, I don't think a quick shake is good enough. 🤔
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There are still a lot of trykes still attached to the buds. So I've invested in a coffee frother to beat more trykes off. 🥊
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Since the first tests, I've settled on a good quick method of ingestion, squirt a dropper or two into a cup of coffee, this hides the taste really well, not that its that bad, but it stops the alcohol burning your mouth, and evaporates most of the alcohol. 👌 The next test will be from the jar marked number three, from this jar I'll evaporate the alcohol down to three dropper bottles, thus making it more potent than this weeks four droppers. So I'll keep stirring the jars for another week, and we'll see what happens then. I'm off for a coffee, so until next week, just keep tokin folks. 👍
The extra step to remove the alcohol using a distillation machine might not be right for you since you're looking at having highly configurable dosing. About that same amount of green dragon will evaporate out to about 5 ml or so of RSO (roughly 5 grams of Rick Simpson Oil). From there, a small amount about the size of a grain of rice is all you need. Unfortunately, the more concentrated the mix, the harder it is to control the dosing. If you're ok with the taste of the alcohol, then I would say your experiment has been a success.
 
Good morning tokers and growers, how are you all on this cold foggy morning, hope your all well. :) This week see's us filtering the second jar, jar 3. The colour on this second jar is a lot darker than last weeks jar 4, which is to be expected, as this jar has a weeks more shaking than the first one. I'm thinking that the green has no real bearing on the end product other than the taste, I had a mouth full of some dry spun trykes from the spinner just to see what's what, and they didn't really taste of any thing much at all, good hit, but not a lot of taste. 😁 These first jars I've gone with what the majority have done, and put the jars in a cool dark place rather than the coldness of the fridge or freezer. Next batch I'm going all out cold front just to see if more trykes are knocked off than in the cool dark environment, and just to see if there is less greenness produced in the finished liquid, not that I think the green is bad for you in any way, its just that I like a good chunk of meat with my eaten greenery to balance it up. 😁 What I ended up with this time is 3 dropper bottles from jar 3, I was going to go down to 2 droppers next time, but, the amount of oil in the 2 dropper bottles means its a hard thing to keep that amount of oil mobile in the small amount of alcohol, as it will be a third of the total bottle, this will make it hard to stop the oil settling in the bottom, and will be a problem to get it moving again to use, not a problem if you can smoke the oil, but for my needs I need it mobile. 😉 So as MIGranpa stated about ending up with no alcohol and just oil is bang on. 👍 From my small foray into Green Dragon, I'd say that 3 dropper bottles using the given quantities of cannabis and alcohol is as good liquid wise as it can get, the only other way to achieve a better bang for your efforts would be to increase the quality and potency of your cannabis. 😁

Not may pics this week. This is jar 3, as you can see, this is greener than jar 4 from last week.
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In this pic you can see the trykes seem to be less numerous, so is it the coffee frother, or the fact its been stirred for an extra week? Or is it wish full thinking. 🤣
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Well, there you have it, this experiment has nearly ran its course. Two more jars to go, so I'll keep mixing, and we'll see how they go, hopefully I'll harvest more of the trykes, as this method seems quite wasteful if half the trykes are left on and binned, unless I sprinkle them on a nice BBQ'd steak. 🤣 Potency of jar 3 seems better than jar 4, so will jar 2 be even better? I don't know, but I will find out this coming week when I test it. :) So until then, just keep tokin folks. (y)
 
Good morning tokers and growers, how are you all on this cold white frosty morning, hope your all well. :) Here we are on week three of the green dragon project, and jar 2 week three has been reduced to four dropper bottles, nice. :) The colour on this jar is no greener than the other two, even though its been mixed/stirred for a week more than the other two of the previous two weeks, and the potency has levelled out, so will jar 1 week four remain the same, guess we'll see when we open the last one next week.:) This weeks jar 2 is as potent as week 4 and 3 is, so apart from the colour becoming stronger on jars 4 and 3, which seems to have reached its peak, then jar 3 is the same, which is no bad thing, as they were both very enjoyable I have to say. 😁 Still a strange experience not smoking a pipe or a joint, but as the Mrs has stated, there's less mess to hoover up in the morning. 🤣 Buddies are now asking for a coffee now when they visit, so the method of intake can't be that bad can it. 🤣 Even made a couple of them go quiet, so it must work quite well. 🤣 I now have enough dropper bottles full to last me a good while, or until I can get some plants going. A buddy said he will have some good cuttings soon, so hoping to grab four for my own use, don't know what strain/strains until they arrive, I've not grown cuttings for a long while, will make a change from seeds. 🙂

This is the colour of jar 2, you can just see through it.
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Under the loupe you can see there are still some trykes still attached to the buds, which is not detrimental to the end product, but I would like to nab them all. 😁 What's left is smaller than last weeks, so maybe the buds just need some extra abuse with the coffee frother to achieve perfection, I'll give it my best shot this week. 😁
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So that's where we are, one more jar to abuse, that should give me enough green dragon to experiment with, and an ingredient to make some thing else to eat, nom nom. 🙂 Hope you all have a prosperous New Year budders, and I'll get you another update next week when the last jar will be ready to test, until then, just keep tokin folks.👍
 
Very nice~!:cool:
Just spitballing but maybe the alcohol has reached saturation.
Have you thought about taking the used material and installing it into a new/ fresh jar of alcohol?

Enjoy~!
 
Very nice~!:cool:
Just spitballing but maybe the alcohol has reached saturation.
Have you thought about taking the used material and installing it into a new/ fresh jar of alcohol?

Enjoy~!

I thought that about the alcohol reaching its peak chemically. This weeks jar seems to have less trykes on the bud than its predecessors, but it would be nice to harvest all of them if possible, as it seems a bit of a wasteful process. 👍 I was told it takes four weeks for the alcohol to break down the trykes completely, so in another week, we'll find out. 🙂
 
Back in the 80's before this was all popular, I did this but heated the alcohol.
I actually used to put it through a coffee maker until it dripped clear~!
Always outdoors and never had a flair up but not sure I have retained that level of courage/stupidity.
Interested if it just needs more time.
Many soak for minutes only [ QWISO ].
 
Back in the 80's before this was all popular, I did this but heated the alcohol.
I actually used to put it through a coffee maker until it dripped clear~!
Always outdoors and never had a flair up but not sure I have retained that level of courage/stupidity.
Interested if it just needs more time.
Many soak for minutes only [ QWISO ].

In my youth I too would have danced in fire, but not any more. 😁 I remember in the 80's there was a lot of oil around, I was never a fan, my preference back then was any good black, or squishy red seal at a push. 👍
 
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