Feminized, multi-strain mess of a grow

[MysticEpipedon]

I added some beneficial nematodes to the soil to knock the fungus gnats back, and also to disrupt any thrips life cycles that were not disrupted by my spraying during veg. Not that I see any signs of them anymore.

So I reduced the light intensity from 75% to 35% so the little worms wouldn't die from the light while I was applying them. This morning I brought the light intensity back up.

To my surprise, when I opened the tent this morning, most of the plants were praying!! I always considered praying a plant's first reaction to too much light. Now low light with nematodes can also do it.

Anyway, i raised the intensity back to 75%. If these gals pray for low light and high light, I'm thinking they're following a false religion.

 

[Anthem275]

I added some beneficial nematodes to the soil to knock the fungus gnats back, and also to disrupt any thrips life cycles that were not disrupted by my spraying during veg. Not that I see any signs of them anymore.

So I reduced the light intensity from 75% to 35% so the little worms wouldn't die from the light while I was applying them. This morning I brought the light intensity back up.

To my surprise, when I opened the tent this morning, most of the plants were praying!! I always considered praying a plant's first reaction to too much light. Now low light with nematodes can also do it.

Anyway, i raised the intensity back to 75%. If these gals pray for low light and high light, I'm thinking they're following a false religion.

You might want to look at how thrips breed. No soil involved is my understanding.

 

[MysticEpipedon]

You might want to look at how thrips breed. No soil involved is my understanding.

They do spend part of their lives in soil.

 

[Anthem275]

They do spend part of their lives in soil.
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I did not know that. Thank you for pointing it out. I had them once, I used a soil product for like 4 weeks trying to kill them off. Negative not working. Used Dow Conserve. One application and gone. Dow conserve is Spinosad. About 23 times as much as captain jacks dead big. And not really toxic.

 

[MysticEpipedon]

I did not know that. Thank you for pointing it out. I had them once, I used a soil product for like 4 weeks trying to kill them off. Negative not working. Used Dow Conserve. One application and gone. Dow conserve is Spinosad. About 23 times as much as captain jacks dead big. And not really toxic.

Nematodes are not the answer to an infestation. They work too slowly. I sprayed during veg to get rid of them.

The main driver in getting nematodes for this grow was to control gnats. From my experience, it takes about 2 weeks to seriously slash the gnat population after adding nematodes. But just in case there was a stray thrip...

 

[MysticEpipedon]

BTW - the praying leaves have stopped, except for the plant in the center of the tent. How odd.

I'm going to have to mess with my plants in the future to see if I can figure out the causes of the praying action.

 

[Rootsruler]

I did not know that. Thank you for pointing it out. I had them once, I used a soil product for like 4 weeks trying to kill them off. Negative not working. Used Dow Conserve. One application and gone. Dow conserve is Spinosad. About 23 times as much as captain jacks dead big. And not really toxic.

I usually do a soil drench with Azamax if I get gnats.

Maybe I'm doing something wrong but I never seem to get gnats. The last couple grows had more of my hair then gnats stuck to the sticky traps. If you look at some of the photos in my recent grow journal you'll notice there are no gnat traps hanging. So far no gnats.

 

[MysticEpipedon]

I usually do a soil drench with Azamax if I get gnats.

Maybe I'm doing something wrong but I never seem to get gnats. The last couple grows had more of my hair then gnats stuck to the sticky traps. If you look at some of the photos in my recent grow journal you'll notice there are no gnat traps hanging. So far no gnats.

You're in soil? If so, wherever you get your soil or soil components, they store it properly. You also water properly.

Gnat eggs and larvae are often in a product you bring into the house. Over watering soil with gnats in it can cause a population explosion.

 

[MysticEpipedon]

The Character Zero with wide leaves is rather frosty for week 3.5.

The scent is somewhat fruity, but there are other scents in there, as well, that I can't identify.

It's a generally fruity situation, overall:

Oracle Octane is also quite frosty. She smells very sweet and fruity.
Captain Future has a minty + fruit scent. I assume she must have some GS Cookies in her family tree.
The Wombat, which should have some diesel scents, is now surprisingly fruity.
The Rhombus -- both are fruity.
Lemon Jeffery -- as the name suggests, these two girls smell like Jeffery.

 

[MysticEpipedon]

Just so I can compare week to week, this is the group in week 4. I'm guessing stretch is at an end. They're quite well behaved.

As I recall from growing the M/F version of Lemon Jeffery, it wasn't until about week 8 that they started flopping all over the place.

One of the Character Zeros is frosty as can be for a 4 weeker. The other doesn't look very frosty, but it seems the trichs are very small. I accidentally brushed a sugar leaf and suddenly a stanky armpit odor hit my nose, and it wasn't me. I may be in love with that girl now.

She's an N-demanding plant, and may be heading for a too early fade.

 

[MysticEpipedon]

Without this grow diary, I'd say my plants haven't grown and matured since they were seedlings. I can see that I'm wrong.
Week 5 group pic:

It's quite a variety. Some are starting to fade, others have no intention of ever fading.

It's a coming out party, a cotillion as it were, for the ladies. Though they're not actually coming out. Pollen doners will be murdered.
Here are the two Character Zeros. The one that ISN'T fading got a lower nutrient soil mix.


The first one looks better. In my grows, that means the second one will be better.

This is Captain Future. Looks downright average.

Here is the ever-praying Oracle Octane:

Most plants would be thrilled with the enviable center position in the tent. But no, this one prays for less light. Too bad. She's shortest, so she gets the center. That's the rule. I didn't make it, I just live by it.

The Lemon Jeffery sisters are both fading. They're still 3 or so weeks away from their flopping mess stage. They smell great. Not enough limonene in my last grow.


Have I mentioned, lately, that limonene is the greatest terp known to humankind?

Here are the Rhombus sisters. Whenever I rub a sugar leaf, they remind me that they will be sedating my ass for months after harvest.



And finally, The wombat. For a while I had convinced myself that this was a sour diesel cross. I was recently reminded it's a NYCD cross. Now I'm less excited about it. On the bright side, she looks average as hell.


If the breeders' reported flowering times are correct, I'm halfway there. What's that? You doubt the breeder-reported flowering times? I'll be going well into February? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING?

Me too.

 

[Rootsruler]

Without this grow diary, I'd say my plants haven't grown and matured since they were seedlings. I can see that I'm wrong.
Week 5 group pic:
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It's quite a variety. Some are starting to fade, others have no intention of ever fading.

It's a coming out party, a cotillion as it were, for the ladies. Though they're not actually coming out. Pollen doners will be murdered.
Here are the two Character Zeros. The one that ISN'T fading got a lower nutrient soil mix.
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The first one looks better. In my grows, that means the second one will be better.

This is Captain Future. Looks downright average.
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Here is the ever-praying Oracle Octane:
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Most plants would be thrilled with the enviable center position in the tent. But no, this one prays for less light. Too bad. She's shortest, so she gets the center. That's the rule. I didn't make it, I just live by it.

The Lemon Jeffery sisters are both fading. They're still 3 or so weeks away from their flopping mess stage. They smell great. Not enough limonene in my last grow.
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Have I mentioned, lately, that limonene is the greatest terp known to humankind?

Here are the Rhombus sisters. Whenever I rub a sugar leaf, they remind me that they will be sedating my ass for months after harvest.
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And finally, The wombat. For a while I had convinced myself that this was a sour diesel cross. I was recently reminded it's a NYCD cross. Now I'm less excited about it. On the bright side, she looks average as hell.
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If the breeders' reported flowering times are correct, I'm halfway there. What's that? You doubt the breeder-reported flowering times? I'll be going well into February? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING?

Me too.

Wow...just Wow!

 

[steamroller]

Fantastically average~!

 

[GoodShit97]

Have I mentioned, lately, that limonene is the greatest terp known to humankind?

Limonene and myrcene are my favorite terpenes.
Limonene first, myrcene second.
Plants all look good, as usual

 

[MysticEpipedon]

Latest news from Flying Critter Journal:

Alien-Like Beings Wiping Out Gnat Population
The local gnat population in a popular Michigan grow tent plummeted in recent weeks, when freakish "hell worms" made their appearance.

"Young, indolent larvae ingest these hell worms while lazing around, eating fungus or whatever the hell young gnats eat. They nourish themselves on the poor, unsuspecting larvae, then explode out of the host in a wriggling mass, thirsting for more larval flesh," explained an adult gnat who was available for an interview, because he was caught in a yellow sticky trap. "It's these lazy punk kids. My generation would never..." he explained, as some sticky stuff finally covered her mandibles, shutting her up forever.

"The older generation doesn't understand," complained a young larval slug, dressed in a Carhart hoody. "They didn't have to deal with, uh-oh, no, not... ACHH! GLURK! SPLORK!" as a colony of nematodes burst from his once-stylish carcass.

"They might have us on the run for this grow, but we'll be back with the next supply of infested soil, you can count on it!" promised Mayor Gnatty McNattington. "Who will get their asses stuck on the trichs in the tent's finest buds, if not for us?"

 

[stonemason]

Nematodes for the win!!!! Great writing.

 

[MysticEpipedon]

End of week 6. The tent smells like it's full of overripe fruit, with a background hint of funk.

The fade is on, for some of them. One Character Zero turned from a fruity scent to absolute stink-foot armpit stench, with a hint of fruit in the background. In other words, heaven.

The plant is like photo film. It's turning color from light exposure. The covering leaf leaves a negative image on the leaf below it.

 

[steamroller]

End of week 6. The tent smells like it's full of overripe fruit, with a background hint of funk.
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The fade is on, for some of them. One Character Zero turned from a fruity scent to absolute stink-foot armpit stench, with a hint of fruit in the background. In other words, heaven.

The plant is like photo film. It's turning color from light exposure. The covering leaf leaves a negative image on the leaf below it.
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My last grow I noted that leaves directly under [ shaded] by another leave had different color like what you are seeing~!
Wild for sure. Kind let me know what was happening with the fade was meant to be and not some shortcoming of mine.
Tent looks great~!

 

[MysticEpipedon]

My last grow I noted that leaves directly under [ shaded] by another leave had different color like what you are seeing~!
Wild for sure. Kind let me know what was happening with the fade was meant to be and not some shortcoming of mine.
Tent looks great~!

This one and her sister are the only ones doing this. Seems to be in the genes.

 

[SSgrower]

Nematodes for the win!!!! Great writing.

I want what he's smokin,Lol. Writing is a skill set for english majors. I enjoy it, but the actual writing holds me back. I could dictate and then transcribe, carry on,SS

 

[MysticEpipedon]

Happy New Year, from the prettiest girl in the current grow.

 

[MysticEpipedon]

Seven weeks have passed since the flip. It's looking like I either needed to veg a little longer or needed to add a couple more plants. Space is not as tight as I typically have it.


There are a couple of photogenic girls in the group. First the "fast" Rhombus:

This girl will probably be done in 9 weeks. I've grown this strain twice and I seem to be getting the same two phenos -- a fast pheno, with small, golf ball buds and a slow pheno, who develops more of a cola. Both do the job for me. This is the fast one. She's fruity with some background garlic-stank. The other, who isn't quite as photogenic, is more garlic-stank.

This is the same bud as the "happy new year" post, above. It is Character Zero - the wide-leaf pheno.

Armpit/fuel/stinkfoot stank is her calling card. I think she'll go another 4 weeks, maybe 3. Her coloration seems to be completely from exposure to the LEDs. The temperature in the tent never dropped below about 75 F during this grow.

The rest of the plants have the nerve to just be green with some fading yellow leaves. Oh well. They all smell great. Lemon, fruits, stinky feet and garlic. Tis the season.

 

[MysticEpipedon]

I've come to two conclusions about this grow:

1. I didn't veg long enough or didn't have enough plants in the tent to fill it.
2. I'm still getting some P lockout from too much Ca, which also may be locking out other nutes.

Time to bite the bullet and get a RO filter.

Here's the gang.


Some extreme P deficiency symptoms:


One girl is showing amber already, at 8 weeks. She'll get the ax next week. No one else is as close.

 

[MysticEpipedon]

I've been somewhat discouraged with this grow since realizing lockout got me again -- though this time later in flower than in the past. Time to spring for an RO filter. Regardless, the plants seem like they're going to be deadly.

One Lemon Jeffrey came down last night at 9.5 weeks. She had about 10% amber on calyx trichs, but she still had a few white stigmas, which kept me from chopping her until last night. Then I thought about the shitty dispensary weed I'd been smoking, and decided this girl had to die.

This is her main bud. Fan leaves have totally faded.

In spite of P lockout (and maybe other nutrients) she has nice buds pretty deep into the plant. I think this is from the bar-style light rather than the genetics. Light penetration seems to be better than any light I've had before.



I can't identify any other terps than limonene, but there might be some orange in the background.

All in all, an easy grow. Too bad about the lockout. I'll have to start another crop right after this one, or smoke dispensary weed this summer.

 

[GoodShit97]

All in all, an easy grow. Too bad about the lockout. I'll have to start another crop right after this one, or smoke dispensary weed this summer.

I vote for start another grow!
You always pump out amazing looking buds man, that Lemon Jeffery looks so damn good. I can not wait to get mine in the mail

 

[MysticEpipedon]

I vote for start another grow!
You always pump out amazing looking buds man, that Lemon Jeffery looks so damn good. I can not wait to get mine in the mail

I love high limonene strains. The problem with this one and the regular version, Lemon Sunrise, is the temptation to wake-and-bake is extreme. Doing a hit is like having two cups of coffee.

 

[GoodShit97]

I love high limonene strains. The problem with this one and the regular version, Lemon Sunrise, is the temptation to wake-and-bake is extreme. Doing a hit is like having two cups of coffee.

High limonene strains
This sounds right up my alley.
You recommended that i get some Irie stuff back at the other place, still havent gotten to buying some yet, but thanks to SSHZ Ill get to try some Lemon Jeffery fems and im super stoked about it.

 

[MysticEpipedon]

They've got an inventory clearance going on now, at the direct sales site:

Irie Direct | Irie Direct

iriedirect.com

Yesterday, I ordered 4 packs of seeds, thinking $30/pack was a great price (normally about $80). Now they're down to $25/pack.

The site with strain descriptions is here: https://iriegenetics.com/

For some reason, the payment method they use does not allow strain descriptions on the direct sales site.

 

[MysticEpipedon]

Another two down. One was the other Rhombus. This is The Wombat. In spite of P lockout, and whatever other lockout, she doesn't look like she yielded too badly. Obviously a compact, bushy plant.

She's fruity with some fuel scent in the background.

Many years ago, I grew a pack of NYC diesel bred by Sannie's right-hand man (Knutsel?). I was deeply unimpressed. Hopefully this cross is more impressive (NYCD x Afterglow).


For you deficiency symptom sleuths, I mistook the yellowing for a lack of N, so I got hooking before the tips started dying back from the P deficiency. This was an overabundance of Ca, so there could be other elements locked out, as well. I'll try her out next week.

This was the other Rhombus girl. I'll be sleeping well for a couple of months.



If you look at the Irie Genetics site, the pic they have for The Rhombus is mine from the last time I grew the strain. The colors are mostly from the P deficiency.