a little history.. last week on monday the 15th i set the doser to monitor only and not control. I check the ph every night at 1am, when it is high or low it is only .1 change so within acceptable limit from what i understand.
so on monday the 15th, i reduced the ppm from 460 to 350. the 17th.18th, and 19th the ph rose each day, and each day i manually added 1ml of down to bring it to 5.8. on the 20th the ph never moved. all this time the ppms stayed in the 350-360 spot. on sunday the 21st the ph went down for the very first time, ppms were still 360. i wasn't worried, instead of manually adding ph up i just set the doser to control and let it add the ph up slowly. i felt on top of the world at this point.. they were growing and had drank about 1.5 gallons since the 15th. felt like i knew what i was doing.
so this is where i added Rapid Start.. ( i forgot this ) did i fuck it all up by adding rapid start? after adding the rapid start the ph went down .2 but the ppms didn't change. i again just left the doser fix it and went to bed.
on monday the ppms were up to 380 flashing 390, plants were all burnt.. i even wrote wtf?? on the day!! haha the ph was 5.9 once again, i lowered it.
tonight at 9 pm the ppms were up to 390 flashing 400. and the ph was again 5.9. so i took out eight gallons and added water. the ppms are now at 300 the doser is turned off and i also turned off the top off
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i use these charts like bibles because i have nothing else to go by. but to be honest they never work for me... the top one you posted Grump gave me and Smoke gave me the other one.
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i sure hope so because thats what i've been doing all this time.
yes sir, 100% i'm sure of it. i never did stop it, just been able to work around and deal with it. at some point last grow they got so big ad so much root mass they just managed the water themselves and i just paid attention to the ppms and adjusted that way. seemed to work well so i tried to do the same thing here but these aren't reacting the same way. i bet if these were seedlings they wouldn't make it but these are big enough that they'll survive once i get the solution low enough.
yes sir, amplified but seems to be the same issue. but just when i say noooo my ph never climbs, for the past week it climbed. i can't win, makes a liar of me every time!!!
this is how i mix them i believe.. i use my white mixing barrel, fill it with plain water. add calmag-stir-add trio.. i then add this to my rez. i don't add mr fulvic or bennies till the next day or two to three days after. once i see that the trio strength i added is working that when i add the extras. if i add them in the beginning i just end up pumping them out in the yard anyway so i wait till i know i'm rolling with this strength.
it's why i waited an entre week this time to add the rapid start. and now i had to pump eight gallons out already!!
i rarely over correct. i try to mix my nutes when i have a bunch of stuff to do with the soil plants so i can bounce back and forth and gve the mixing time. sometimes it takes me an hour to correct the ph i add it so slow.
i swear i have all good habits!!! don't even dip my pens in the rez ever!!!!
i understand man, i don't want to add the up like that at that kind of volume. but if i don't use it my ph will be so low it would kill the plants so i need to add it. well really the doser needs to add it... and thats really another problem here right.. i mean i "should" have the alarms and safety settings turned on so this very thing can't happen. but when an alrm goes off it stops doseing and just monitors...
you mean the measurements? it can be tough sometimes just like Grump said. plus GH doesn't offer an amount low enough in ppm. when i use the very lowest ratio they list i get 560ppms.. so what i do is say that i only want to mix it for ten gallons instead of 25 and add that. this is okay that i do it that way right?
yes that makes perfect sense and we're on the same page with that. not only is it concentrating it but there is no way it is concentrating at the same even ratio i started out at.
this is where i weary of just watering down solution that has been rising for a week because i'm just watering down the wrong ratio.
you're right though it is tough measuring with beakers and syringes.. the math will say 48 my eye says maybe 46, maybe 49... and when i'm trying to measure out such a weak solution every ml matter i assume...
sounds like it could be a problem, not sure that it's thee problem but thee problem could be compounded problems that don't seem like much to me but really are.
but how do i fix this? how do i measure better? you think i could document weight and measure it that way?
so how does one know their KH? asking for a friend...
i can sure as hell print some out if nothing else!!!!!! i need some sort of defense, i was thinking of putting yoda in there!!!
thats what i feel like!!! hahahaha
i mean zoom in y'all... the left plant has three bladed leaves and everything.... how did i manage to screw that one up!!!!! they both started with five!!! left one is back to five again now though..
^^could this maybe be a clue as to what i'm doing wrong?
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also, another question for all you guys:
what caused red stem tops and red leaf veins? i have this when my problem is at it's peak.
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and.. my roots didn't look the best tonight, first time i looked in while... the smell good and fresh but have a yellow tinge to them. maybe i should add some enzymes... they can't hurt the situation i assume.
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i'm listening...
so here's an issue.. i believe i have real idea just how much cal mag i even have anymore.. after diluting so many times i'm also diluting the calimagic and adding some back with my hard well water.
yeah those roots don't look the best right now huh??
so help me out, i don't really know where to start...
this is what i have...
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honestly, i understand this more than that...
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i have no clue as to where to even start anymore. i tried low, they hate it! i tried high, they hate it!!! i'm in the middle, now they hate that!!
help me figure out what to mix and i'll dump it all out and try something new right away! anything is better than what i'm doing at this point and i'm willing to try!
yeah i get it... it's been a process of elimination for loooooooong time now.. i still have doubts in my design. i always doubt something that my hands were on when something doesn't work. it's always the best place to start.
could the wrong recirculation rate cause this kind of ciaos? my guess would be no but i figured i'd ask...
not using a buffer at all this time... after i thought i poisoned them i thought well why add it to start with if it's not working and just adding more anyway so i skipped the buffer this batch... i think this is why i started seeing the ph rise trend... maybe?
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