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Smoke Alarm in the Tent

I sandwiched one between one of the rails on the top. Fire prevention is more critical than a lot of home growers want to admit. Properly rated fire extinguishers within safe range, and alarms are worthwhile investments.

There's these self contained extinguisher units that are super slick I want to get all some point. They're expensive as hell though.
 
tobh said:
I sandwiched one between one of the rails on the top. Fire prevention is more critical than a lot of home growers want to admit. Properly rated fire extinguishers within safe range, and alarms are worthwhile investments.

There's these self contained extinguisher units that are super slick I want to get all some point. They're expensive as hell though.
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I need to pick up a portable extinguisher to put in the lung room. Good Call!!!

Are those the ones that go off automatically like a sprinkler system? I have a unit similar that I want to put on my Nova project in the engine bay and driver cabin in case I get the bright idea I know how to drive and I put it in the wall.

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Racecraft Safecraft SFI 5 lbs Fire Suppression System [800300-SFI] - $551.00 LT has a very compact discharge head which gives it a smaller overall size. Another feature not found on even more expensive racing extinguishers is the "swivel" head design. The activation portion of the discharge head...
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Rootsruler said:
I need to pick up a portable extinguisher to put in the lung room. Good Call!!!

Are those the ones that go off automatically like a sprinkler system? I have a unit similar that I want to put on my Nova project in the engine bay and driver cabin in case I get the bright idea I know how to drive and I put it in the wall.

Safecraft SFI 5 lbs Fire Suppression System [800300-SFI] - $0.00 : Racecraft, Camaro Mustang Chassis Suspension K-Member Control Arm Drop Spindles Fabrication

Racecraft Safecraft SFI 5 lbs Fire Suppression System [800300-SFI] - $551.00 LT has a very compact discharge head which gives it a smaller overall size. Another feature not found on even more expensive racing extinguishers is the "swivel" head design. The activation portion of the discharge head...
www.racecraft.com www.racecraft.com
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Kinda but not quite. The ones I'm thinking of are typically used in server rooms and other electronic control rooms. Basically a tank with a heat sensitive valve iirc. You'll see em in some commercial grow warehouses, big red balloon looking things.
 
The biggest thing is making sure whatever the retardant is, is rated for electrical. Something for grease or organics won't be safe, and likely will make the problem worse.
 
I use a 2KG Flame Defender watching over my sparky. One thing in my room I hope never has to be used.
Rated ABC and sells for >$75. 12KG is around $120.

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I use portable battery/plug-in models. Nothing inside, just where power bars are and ceiling.

Used to have small fire extinguishers for computer office and Jeep but got stolen over the years. Need to find a good rechargeable one. Didn’t fire stations use to recharge some extinguishers?
 
Garbage_bear said:
Yeah I had been running a Mars Hydro light for a long time until I recently heard they catch fire. haven't used it since. And I put an alarm in the tent.
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I had 2 Mars lights burn up, left black soot all over my tent ceiling.
Now that im not angry about it anymore, i realize it can happen to ANY light no matter the manufacturer.
I have an alarm in my 3x3 inside the hanging pocket, and 3 fire extinguishers in the cabinet right next to the tents.
Im in the process of getting a suppression system, im just so poor im using what i have for now because what i have, is better than nothing at all.
 
GoodShit97 said:
I had 2 Mars lights burn up, left black soot all over my tent ceiling.
Now that im not angry about it anymore, i realize it can happen to ANY light no matter the manufacturer.
I have an alarm in my 3x3 inside the hanging pocket, and 3 fire extinguishers in the cabinet right next to the tents.
Im in the process of getting a suppression system, im just so poor im using what i have for now because what i have, is better than nothing at all.
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You have baking soda, kitty/bunny litter, diaper liners and a few other nonwater options in a pinch until you get something better.
 
Zen_seeker said:
You have baking soda, kitty/bunny litter, diaper liners and a few other nonwater options in a pinch until you get something better.
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I have 3 ABC fire extinguishers in my room with the tents, 2 in my kitchen, and then 1 in bathroom, laundry room, and my kids room.
I get new ones every year from the Christian camp up the road, the supervisor loves my kids so he gives me 8 every year.
 
GoodShit97 said:
I have 3 ABC fire extinguishers in my room with the tents, 2 in my kitchen, and then 1 in bathroom, laundry room, and my kids room.
I get new ones every year from the Christian camp up the road, the supervisor loves my kids so he gives me 8 every year.
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i stock up annually as well. after living through a house fire, one becomes acutely aware of just how tragically life can change due to fire. better to have and not need than need and not have.
 
tobh said:
i stock up annually as well. after living through a house fire, one becomes acutely aware of just how tragically life can change due to fire. better to have and not need than need and not have.
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Damn man thats crazy.
End of last year i had issue after issue.
I had 2 mars lights catch fire, a dab pen in my smoke cabinet blew up in my face and started a softball size chemical fire, then the idiots that lived here before me had a 4500 watt water heater running on a 3200 watt circuit with under rated wire so the top controller in the water heater blew up and caught fire.
Thankfully i was home for all these incidents or i wouldnt have a house anymore.
 
GoodShit97 said:
Damn man thats crazy.
End of last year i had issue after issue.
I had 2 mars lights catch fire, a dab pen in my smoke cabinet blew up in my face and started a softball size chemical fire, then the idiots that lived here before me had a 4500 watt water heater running on a 3200 watt circuit with under rated wire so the top controller in the water heater blew up and caught fire.
Thankfully i was home for all these incidents or i wouldnt have a house anymore.
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holy shit man. maybe you should go live off grid away from anything electrical lol
 
GoodShit97 said:
Damn man thats crazy.
End of last year i had issue after issue.
I had 2 mars lights catch fire, a dab pen in my smoke cabinet blew up in my face and started a softball size chemical fire, then the idiots that lived here before me had a 4500 watt water heater running on a 3200 watt circuit with under rated wire so the top controller in the water heater blew up and caught fire.
Thankfully i was home for all these incidents or i wouldnt have a house anymore.
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Holy shit dude! You need a halon system and firehouse next door. Glad nothing you couldn’t handle.

Great...now I’m paranoid...🔥👀
 
GoodShit97 said:
Sounds quiet and peaceful lol.
Its what my wife and i have talked about doing when the kids grow up and move out. Ive got a minimum of 14 years before that happens 😩😅
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Ya, 14 more years. 🤣

That was our plan...youngest is going on 23. Says he’s entrenched. Other has been to more of Canada than I have. Bought a house in Quebec this year.

So 50/50 odds. 🤣
 
Zen_seeker said:
Ya, 14 more years. 🤣

That was our plan...youngest is going on 23. Says he’s entrenched. Other has been to more of Canada than I have. Bought a house in Quebec this year.

So 50/50 odds. 🤣
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I was out on my own at 17, but i had shitbag drunks for parents so i pretty much raised myself once i was old enough.
 
tobh said:
I sandwiched one between one of the rails on the top. Fire prevention is more critical than a lot of home growers want to admit. Properly rated fire extinguishers within safe range, and alarms are worthwhile investments.

There's these self contained extinguisher units that are super slick I want to get all some point. They're expensive as hell though.
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What about these fire balls.once it gets to a certain degrees BOOM. I opened the grow room door one morning and had smoke coming out of the back of a fan and was alight.the fan would sweep 90 deg then stop and flame would stop then the fan would start up again and small flame inside the unit would appear..that really worried me.I’ve been a slack ass since and had forgotten about it till now.those balls are about 40-60 dollars depending where you purchase them from..

oh shit ..forgot the pic47F2B04E-B53F-4FDD-9808-CE4573B87C5B.jpeg
 
GoodShit97 said:
Damn man thats crazy.
End of last year i had issue after issue.
I had 2 mars lights catch fire, a dab pen in my smoke cabinet blew up in my face and started a softball size chemical fire, then the idiots that lived here before me had a 4500 watt water heater running on a 3200 watt circuit with under rated wire so the top controller in the water heater blew up and caught fire.
Thankfully i was home for all these incidents or i wouldnt have a house anymore.
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man not sure if you bought it or not but you'd think that would be under inspection of the house. good thing you were home when all this happened.
 
GoodShit97 said:
I had 2 Mars lights burn up, left black soot all over my tent ceiling.
Now that im not angry about it anymore, i realize it can happen to ANY light no matter the manufacturer.
I have an alarm in my 3x3 inside the hanging pocket, and 3 fire extinguishers in the cabinet right next to the tents.
Im in the process of getting a suppression system, im just so poor im using what i have for now because what i have, is better than nothing at all.
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I am sure it can happen to any light but Mars has a reputation of them burning up lol.
 
Neueregel said:
I've thought of this as well as a IP camera. i think they are good ideas.
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really, i think as a community we should do more to raise awareness around safety protocols in this hobby. commercial cats have extensive fire suppression systems simply because they're required by modern building codes.

we should follow their lead, though, because if one loses a domicile to a fire caused specifically because of a grow, it's likely renters or homeowners insurance won't pay out unless the individual can prove they took all necessary precautions (not overloading circuits, alerting and suppression systems being present, proper separation of water and electrical line routing, etc).
 
Neueregel said:
man not sure if you bought it or not but you'd think that would be under inspection of the house. good thing you were home when all this happened.
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Ha, what Inspection..

Its a 1984 single wide trailer.... it passed code in 84 therefore its grandfathered in and doesnt need to be up to code.... A LOT was not safe here when i moved in... Surprised its still standing.

I mean, here is the bottom of a stud around my back door....20230530_144223.jpg
Doesnt even attach to the frame of the trailer🤣
You wanna know how many more are probably just like it? I dont! Lol.
 
GoodShit97 said:
Ha, what Inspection..

Its a 1984 single wide trailer.... it passed code in 84 therefore its grandfathered in and doesnt need to be up to code.... A LOT was not safe here when i moved in... Surprised its still standing.

I mean, here is the bottom of a stud around my back door....View attachment 4969
Doesnt even attach to the frame of the trailer🤣
You wanna know how many more are probably just like it? I dont! Lol.
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wow that's crazy.
 
tobh said:
really, i think as a community we should do more to raise awareness around safety protocols in this hobby. commercial cats have extensive fire suppression systems simply because they're required by modern building codes.

we should follow their lead, though, because if one loses a domicile to a fire caused specifically because of a grow, it's likely renters or homeowners insurance won't pay out unless the individual can prove they took all necessary precautions (not overloading circuits, alerting and suppression systems being present, proper separation of water and electrical line routing, etc).
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Somewhere that all got lost.
I learned a lot about indoor growing from how to grow books in the 90's/2000s and chapter one was always security and safety so when I moved from outside to indoors the first thing to do was run the sparky separate from household currents and not use outlets in the room for anything major like lighting.
Sure it can be expensive but dual 25amp GFCI circuits is worth it and safe and it's ez to build it to code even if you don't get a permit for it.
Next was fire suppression. Seen enough shit like fans, dehueys, air pumps, and power strips scorch and burn up. Luckily no actual fire but plenty of times I've seen a fried plug on an outlet. Power transformer in a dehuey cord melted down and had evidence of fire burn but extinguished itself and was a melted down blob after the fact. I'll never plug in one of those things again and was lucky it didn't set off the fire extinguisher.

One feature I always look for especially in fans is a fused plug. It's ez to see because the plug will be blue. Cheap Chinese made fans are known to burn out at the plug or motor. That simple fuse can save the day from fire just like does for Xmas lights.

Usually the first questions from a newbie is what light to buy and how much yield can I expect. I think we're well past that first question being how can I have an uber safe grow space before I pop my first seed. I don't think it's even considered much if at all really these days. And you can preach safety but more often than not it's ignored. Too much * that'll never happen to me * mentality in heads these days, now tell me how much yield I can expect 😣
 
tobh said:
I sandwiched one between one of the rails on the top. Fire prevention is more critical than a lot of home growers want to admit. Properly rated fire extinguishers within safe range, and alarms are worthwhile investments.

There's these self contained extinguisher units that are super slick I want to get all some point. They're expensive as hell though.
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The extinguisher ball things?
 
tobh said:
i stock up annually as well. after living through a house fire, one becomes acutely aware of just how tragically life can change due to fire. better to have and not need than need and not have.
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House fire in 2012 lost everything - insurance was cool though, parents got fat checks left and right to buy shit.

Whole experience is surreal.
 
Observer said:
House fire in 2012 lost everything - insurance was cool though, parents got fat checks left and right to buy shit.

Whole experience is surreal.
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mine was may of 2015. lost everything. bad day in memory. hella smarter, now though. or hardened. dunno which. trust i won't suffer that level of loss again, though.
 
Bandit420 said:
Somewhere that all got lost.
I learned a lot about indoor growing from how to grow books in the 90's/2000s and chapter one was always security and safety so when I moved from outside to indoors the first thing to do was run the sparky separate from household currents and not use outlets in the room for anything major like lighting.
Sure it can be expensive but dual 25amp GFCI circuits is worth it and safe and it's ez to build it to code even if you don't get a permit for it.
Next was fire suppression. Seen enough shit like fans, dehueys, air pumps, and power strips scorch and burn up. Luckily no actual fire but plenty of times I've seen a fried plug on an outlet. Power transformer in a dehuey cord melted down and had evidence of fire burn but extinguished itself and was a melted down blob after the fact. I'll never plug in one of those things again and was lucky it didn't set off the fire extinguisher.

One feature I always look for especially in fans is a fused plug. It's ez to see because the plug will be blue. Cheap Chinese made fans are known to burn out at the plug or motor. That simple fuse can save the day from fire just like does for Xmas lights.

Usually the first questions from a newbie is what light to buy and how much yield can I expect. I think we're well past that first question being how can I have an uber safe grow space before I pop my first seed. I don't think it's even considered much if at all really these days. And you can preach safety but more often than not it's ignored. Too much * that'll never happen to me * mentality in heads these days, now tell me how much yield I can expect 😣
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So you ran a separate power line outside of stock home wiring? What breaker amperage did you use in the main box? Double 30? Did you run liquitight conduit outside the house then into your GFCI or did you actually run wire through the wall?
 
Rootsruler said:
So you ran a separate power line outside of stock home wiring? What breaker amperage did you use in the main box? Double 30? Did you run liquitight conduit outside the house then into your GFCI or did you actually run wire through the wall?
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It started with an upgraded breaker panel on the back of my home so I could install outdoor outlets and power up a sauna. My home is a mid century build with outdated utility drop so I had to upgrade that to year 2000 specs and hired and electrician to do that. Afterward he advised me on building the outdoor and grow room outlets but I did the work.

But yeah on the back breaker panel, two single pole 20amp GFCI breakers and I ran the wire inside gray PVC conduit.

The conduit is water sealed and buried about 8" deep along side the foundation and wraps around the back of my home to the side where the grow room is located. I think it was around 50' of wire to get from the breaker box to the grow room.
From there, yep drilled a hole thru the house, ran the conduit inside and on the wall mounted a 4 outlet GFCI outdoor grade box so it has GFCI protection both at the breaker and outlets.
These outlets power up my lights, environment control and fans, and air conditioner. One circuit handles lights and the other AC & inline fans.
The only things I have plugged into wall outlets in the room is a couple fans, air pump, UV water purifier & pump, and supplement lights which all together is about 250 watts total.
I don't tax my interior home breakers at all with all the heavy load stuff on it's own circuit separate from everything else.
I built this sparky in 2005 and back then for everything was around $350-$400. And most of that was just because I needed a lot of wire to make the long run but the closer a grow room is to the breaker panel on the back of a house the less it will cost. Breakers were around $75 each and the outdoor grade outlet box was around $25. PVC pipe, elbows, and glue was maybe $30 at the most
 
Mad Max said:
What about these fire balls.once it gets to a certain degrees BOOM. I opened the grow room door one morning and had smoke coming out of the back of a fan and was alight.the fan would sweep 90 deg then stop and flame would stop then the fan would start up again and small flame inside the unit would appear..that really worried me.I’ve been a slack ass since and had forgotten about it till now.those balls are about 40-60 dollars depending where you purchase them from..

oh shit ..forgot the picView attachment 4954
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Wait.. what do you mean by "back of a fan and was a light" i've been paranoid about my oscillating fan lately
 
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