Supa Freak, Fryday, and First Lady

[ninjadip]

Yes it is some dark smelly shit but it works, fkin expensive but at 1 ml/gal it lasts a long time.

Yes I'm on the same bottle of mr fulvic for over a year. I usually use 1/2 ml/g. I use this with kelp as a replacement for floralicious.

 

[Pipecarver]

I got you, yeah you have to use the trio as one unit, but outside of that anything goes in my book, of course with proper research and understanding.

If it mixes well without causing cloudy, silty, smelly water then I suppose but I don't know why you'd take a chance using other products if your main nute supplier has what you need. Maybe for example Advanced has a bloom booster/hardener I wouldn't want to add it to my GH nutes during a critical time through flower without having mixed them together in the past without issues.

I was using a non GH salts control product Hyclean 1/ml per gal.....not good, it is what was causing chelating of my nutes. Just a simple clean product from another company fked up my batches. I ain't doing that again

 

[ninjadip]

If it mixes well without causing cloudy, silty, smelly water then I suppose but I don't know why you'd take a chance using other products if your main nute supplier has what you need. Maybe for example Advanced has a bloom booster/hardener I wouldn't want to add it to my GH nutes during a critical time through flower without having mixed them together in the past without issues.

I was using a non GH salts control product Hyclean 1/ml per gal.....not good, it is what was causing chelating of my nutes. Just a simple clean product from another company fked up my batches. I ain't doing that again

I understand, for me I've never seen any precipitation, ever, outside of forgetting to lower ph after silica before calmag. To each their own of course. The reason i don't use all their products is because i believe others are better like the data i posted on silica. I know GH has spent a lot of research on the trio, decades ago, before anything else they've made, it's tried and true, while their supplements have changed recipes more than once over the years. If that makes sense.

Never ever have smelly water, i never have any adverse effects from mixing it up. Only ever seen chelating when mixing out of order or not checking ph before calmag. Never used hyclean, or any cleaning products outside of cleaning prep for the next run.

To each their own, but just want to say that it's not bad to mix products across the board in a blanket statement. At least in my experience.

 

[Pipecarver]

I understand, for me I've never seen any precipitation, ever, outside of forgetting to lower ph after silica before calmag. To each their own of course. The reason i don't use all their products is because i believe others are better like the data i posted on silica. I know GH has spent a lot of research on the trio, decades ago, before anything else they've made, it's tried and true, while their supplements have changed recipes more than once over the years. If that makes sense.

Never ever have smelly water, i never have any adverse effects from mixing it up. Only ever seen chelating when mixing out of order or not checking ph before calmag. Never used hyclean, or any cleaning products outside of cleaning prep for the next run.

To each their own, but just want to say that it's not bad to mix products across the board in a blanket statement. At least in my experience.

Its for me something I was taught by my Guru 30 odd years ago and confirmed in the shit I've read and seen online since. I don't have any scientific knowledge to back that up but I've mixed and matched a few times over the years without good results so I'm pretty well stuck in..... my...belief... heavy on the my part...lol.

Some growers just use the basic 3 N P K powdered minerals and skip the additives altogether for pennies on the dollar I wish I had that knowledge. I add Zinc,copper,Sulfur,manganese, boron and a bunch of other supposedly good shit...lol to apparently make them bigger badder and better...so says the labels

 

[Skinnypuppy80]

Salutations beautiful ppl!! Ugh, been a grow w way too many mistakes made lol That being said, Im super pleased w the grow as I got no hermies and I chop TMRW!! WOOHOO!! Here's the Fryday which dominates the tent.


The nicer bud of the 2 freaks


After this I'll have to wait to start the next round till I buy a house. The wait is gonna suck but I think I'll enjoy it soo much more! Will probably only b a month or 2 so not terribly long. When that pops off, I'm gonna try to get into a perpetual situation. I will also have a little bit of new equipment to unbox and use. Took advantage of the sale and bought the aci Ai controller and the probes. Saved about $80 so that was nice. Till then, I'll have to scratch the itch following other grows on this site.

 

[Skinnypuppy80]

I did end up w some major foxtailing. I think I heard that it negatively affects the potency, as well as that it's just cosmetic. I'm leaning more towards that it's not good. Is the problem too close to the light or someother stress? They appear on sites way lower than the colas, just not as pronounced. Another question, do I keep the buds as is or cut of the tails and toss em? Thanks in advance for suggestions

 

[Driver77]

I did end up w some major foxtailing. I think I heard that it negatively affects the potency, as well as that it's just cosmetic. I'm leaning more towards that it's not good. Is the problem too close to the light or someother stress? They appear on sites way lower than the colas, just not as pronounced. Another question, do I keep the buds as is or cut of the tails and toss em? Thanks in advance for suggestions
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Nice job! Fox tailing doesn't hurt potency...it's just cosmetic. It can be caused by several things including too much light, genetics, heat, and nutrients etc. It'll smoke just fine...enjoy!

 

[Eskas]

I did end up w some major foxtailing. I think I heard that it negatively affects the potency, as well as that it's just cosmetic. I'm leaning more towards that it's not good. Is the problem too close to the light or someother stress? They appear on sites way lower than the colas, just not as pronounced. Another question, do I keep the buds as is or cut of the tails and toss em? Thanks in advance for suggestions
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It looks absolutely amazing, great work!

 

[steamroller]

Fox tailing can be caused by genetics or stress.
In the case of genetics, it is expressed on the whole plant generally [ as you have described with lower buds also showing signs].
It is when stressors cause fox tailing that the fox tail may be less potent than the other 'mature' buds.
The reason being the trichomes are not fully developed due to their late appearance.

This article seems to cover much of what I just said.

What Are Foxtails on Weed and What Causes Them?

Decode cannabis foxtailing. Learn to distinguish desirable genetic growth from damaging stress signals and manage your crop effectively.

biologyinsights.com

Your plants look really good~!

Do you lower/decrease your lights power through flowering?
To me not doing that would be one of the main reasons for fox tailing when not genetic.
I have never had fox tailing although I seem to have had many other issues even just recently.
Possibly turning down the lights and letting the fox tailed plant go longer will help with the trichomes.

 

[Driver77]

Fox tailing can be caused by genetics or stress.
In the case of genetics, it is expressed on the whole plant generally [ as you have described with lower buds also showing signs].
It is when stressors cause fox tailing that the fox tail may be less potent than the other 'mature' buds.
The reason being the trichomes are not fully developed due to their late appearance.

This article seems to cover much of what I just said.

What Are Foxtails on Weed and What Causes Them?

Decode cannabis foxtailing. Learn to distinguish desirable genetic growth from damaging stress signals and manage your crop effectively.

biologyinsights.com

Your plants look really good~!

Do you lower/decrease your lights power through flowering?
To me not doing that would be one of the main reasons for fox tailing when not genetic.
I have never had fox tailing although I seem to have had many other issues even just recently.
Possibly turning down the lights and letting the fox tailed plant go longer will help with the trichomes.

Interesting...I never thought about them being less mature. I'd still smoke it!

 

[Zen_seeker]

Fox tailing can be caused by genetics or stress.
In the case of genetics, it is expressed on the whole plant generally [ as you have described with lower buds also showing signs].
It is when stressors cause fox tailing that the fox tail may be less potent than the other 'mature' buds.
The reason being the trichomes are not fully developed due to their late appearance.

This article seems to cover much of what I just said.

What Are Foxtails on Weed and What Causes Them?

Decode cannabis foxtailing. Learn to distinguish desirable genetic growth from damaging stress signals and manage your crop effectively.

biologyinsights.com

Your plants look really good~!

Do you lower/decrease your lights power through flowering?
To me not doing that would be one of the main reasons for fox tailing when not genetic.
I have never had fox tailing although I seem to have had many other issues even just recently.
Possibly turning down the lights and letting the fox tailed plant go longer will help with the trichomes.

Cool. I’ve only had them from light stress up top.

I’m trying something new this time by adding an extra hour of light at flip, another later after stretch, and by week 5-6 I’ll start to remove the added hours.

 

[steamroller]

Cool. I’ve only had them from light stress up top.

I’m trying something new this time by adding an extra hour of light at flip, another later after stretch, and by week 5-6 I’ll start to remove the added hours.

I was going to suggest that you decrease your lights power instead of raising it while your plants are stretching.
I know many want full power at the beginning of flower but IMO balance is the key.

 

[Zen_seeker]

I was going to suggest that you decrease your lights power instead of raising it while your plants are stretching.
I know many want full power at the beginning of flower but IMO balance is the key.

Already did to help with burning before flip. Watching the tops seeing how long I can leave the light before burning starts. Hoping I can ride out stretch before raising the last few inches to finish the grow.

How do you raise lower branches without burning the tops or LST in flower? Tricky in the 1x3. Better control in the 3x3’s. IIRC I was around 35000 LUX at flip, then turned it down a bit more when I stopped raising the light.

I don’t think I’ve had a light above 70% the last two years. They are at 50% now.