The Psyche Gardens

[Observer]

Just trying to grow some roots here lol.

 

[Observer]

Partly how I clean it.

I use pool shock to refill this clear rez bottle.

Giga-cheap.

 

[Observer]

 

[Observer]

Those VGs make this shit so much easier too Thanks y'all

 

[Observer]

 

[Zen_seeker]

I remember the name but I’ve seen so many of your grows they run together at times. I know where to look for reference and do a search.

I only mentioned the brown as I wasn’t sure if the lighting was responsible. I also figured if it was an issue you’d have a reason for it. Which you do, your still looking into it.

Love the little money saving tips. Chemistry was cool but an asshat teacher turned me off. Never thought it would come in so handy in retirement. I imagine a lot of good chefs are too.

 

[Observer]

Should I go ahead and flip?

I meant, would u guys like to see me just go ahead and flip or wait a little more

 

[Observer]

I remember the name but I’ve seen so many of your grows they run together at times. I know where to look for reference and do a search.

I only mentioned the brown as I wasn’t sure if the lighting was responsible. I also figured if it was an issue you’d have a reason for it. Which you do, your still looking into it.

good point, I never saw this "browning" in clear cups on my kratky training, but again, gotta account for all possible variables that could cause that, could be "bad" bacteria causing that, my nutrient Solution is pretty clear, nothing dark or staining it. I did use kelp at the start for a few gallons, but that was so many gallons ago/low dosage, I don't think it's that.

I do think that browning is from a "negative" affect, but plants look mostly happy for now so carrying on just trying to keep sterile and scrubbed down, careful with my hypo acid dosage.

Love the little money saving tips. Chemistry was cool but an asshat teacher turned me off. Never thought it would come in so handy in retirement. I imagine a lot of good chefs are too.

I've fell more in love with chemistry since growing, that's basically what it is.

Biological chemical reactions, the plant is a biological synthesizing reactor.

I think I've started to also notice or observe that the browning roots, if they are not happy, they start to 'harden' off"

I might of stopped or killed plenty of roots from trying to balance it out 4mins off to 14 minutes off, causing dry zones for instance.


A lot to consider and think about.

 

[BlueCollarBob]

I meant, would u guys like to see me just go ahead and flip or wait a little more

No matter when you decide to flip, it will be interesting stuff for me. Do you have anything you still want to work on before flipping? Or, are you at a point where you want to finish this one up so you can apply what you've learned, so far, to the next grow?

 

[Observer]

No matter when you decide to flip, it will be interesting stuff for me.

Do you have anything you still want to work on before flipping?

A bigger, more fuzzy/aero like root system.

Or, are you at a point where you want to finish this one up so you can apply what you've learned, so far, to the next grow?

but i also figure once I switch, its demands will change, and growth rate would increase based off its needs, and ill be able to observe more data in a shorter amount of time.

I'm not getting the results I should or want, maybe I need a higher pressure pump, smaller droplet size ultimately, besides accounting for the canopy environment variables.

Maybe my timings are not optimized or my nutrient ratio, maybe im using too much or too less water.

It seems it basically has to be about perfect, "growing roots" are more finicky than just "growing a canopy"

Figuring it out.

 

[Observer]

I've "bottomed' the longest root too again BTW @Zen_seeker


To try and encourage more lateral branching?rooting? Lol.

 

[Observer]

2s/4m~ -on/off
16~HRS
100-200~PPFD/4-16 DLI

0.2E.C/150-300PPM of 10-14-26+sum tap+calcium hypochlorous acid+extra mag sulfate & pinch of potassium sulfate.

5.4-6.0 pH
70-86F/35-75% RH

Take the last picture with a grain of salt, not very accurate, just mobile light sensor and some arbitrary app, "tentbuddy".

But good enough for a "range" I think.

 

[Observer]

2s/4m~ -on/off
16~HRS
100-200~PPFD/4-16 DLI

0.2E.C/150-300PPM of 10-14-26+sum tap+calcium hypochlorous acid+extra mag sulfate & pinch of potassium sulfate.

5.4-6.0 pH
70-86F/35-75% RH

Take the last picture with a grain of salt, not very accurate, just mobile light sensor and some arbitrary app, "tentbuddy".

But good enough for a "range" I think.

As of this post I already changed to 2s/3m lol

The 2s doesn't kick on for a real 2 seconds due to the pump and electrical timing(?)

 

[Zen_seeker]

I meant, would u guys like to see me just go ahead and flip or wait a little more

Up to you. Either would be interesting.

 

[Zen_seeker]

I've "bottomed' the longest root too again BTW @Zen_seeker


To try and encourage more lateral branching?rooting? Lol.

When my red coffee can has a lower water line some of the best/bushiest lateral roots occur in the air space between the waters surface and the bottom of the neoprene plant plug/puck.

Now this is always clones not seedlings so no tap root but might still be relevant.

They remain white and this is in standing tap water I dump and replace every week or so. Things aren’t air tight and it’s usually low light and high humidity.

 

[Observer]

 

[BlueCollarBob]

A bigger, more fuzzy/aero like root system.


but i also figure once I switch, its demands will change, and growth rate would increase based off its needs, and ill be able to observe more data in a shorter amount of time.

I'm not getting the results I should or want, maybe I need a higher pressure pump, smaller droplet size ultimately, besides accounting for the canopy environment variables.

Maybe my timings are not optimized or my nutrient ratio, maybe im using too much or too less water.

It seems it basically has to be about perfect, "growing roots" are more finicky than just "growing a canopy"

Figuring it out.

I doubt I've come across anything new to you, but I checked out a few videos of different misting/fogging set ups. Out of the gate, I think I like your approach with the water pump better than the air syphon systems. I just keep imagining the noise from the air compressor starting up when the air pressure drops off. It does look loke you can achieve some super fine fog with those systems, though.

I came across a video of a guy testing a handful of different nozzles. I like how he used a laser light to help visualize how long the mist/fog hangs around for each nozzle. I think the pump he used has similar specs to yours:

 

[Observer]

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[Observer]

When my red coffee can has a lower water line some of the best/bushiest lateral roots occur in the air space between the waters surface and the bottom of the neoprene plant plug/puck.

A "perfect or, ideal" "aero" "zone" for "aeroroots" to grow? , lol.

Now this is always clones not seedlings so no tap root but might still be relevant.

They remain white and this is in standing tap water I dump and replace every week or so. Things aren’t air tight and it’s usually low light and high humidity.

Having a better photon barrier is on my mind too, will do in the 2.0 setup

 

[Observer]

Looking pretty healthy imo, growth rate could of been better though.

 

[Observer]

I doubt I've come across anything new to you, but I checked out a few videos of different misting/fogging set ups. Out of the gate, I think I like your approach with the water pump better than the air syphon systems. I just keep imagining the noise from the air compressor starting up when the air pressure drops off. It does look loke you can achieve some super fine fog with those systems, though.

I came across a video of a guy testing a handful of different nozzles. I like how he used a laser light to help visualize how long the mist/fog hangs around for each nozzle. I think the pump he used has similar specs to yours:

Sweet

Thanks for posting this I'll reply more on this when I get more time

 

[Zen_seeker]

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Tops look healthy and happy.

 

[Zen_seeker]

A "perfect or, ideal" "aero" "zone" for "aeroroots" to grow? , lol.

Since the humidity is so high and there is an inch or two of space I was wondering if that is a factor?

Just a thought while I vape along.

Having a better photon barrier is on my mind too, will do in the 2.0 setup

Cool.

 

[Observer]

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[Driver77]

Is there a time limit on how long you keep them in the system or is it more a size thing? or can a plant be grown to harvest in it??

 

[Observer]

Is there a time limit on how long you keep them in the system or is it more a size thing?

As long as there's room for the roots.

or can a plant be grown to harvest in it??

Definitely, gonna flip these soon, hopefully they aren't males lol.

 

[Observer]

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[doublej]

.looks like it's working, pretty cool!!