ViparSpectra KS3000 - 5x5 Solo Cup run #2

[Observer]

easiest and most effective way would be you hang the plant in mist, lol.

and the roots dangle.

this is what i plan on doing.

 

[Observer]

""The DO level of a gallon of tap water aerated with an airstone will depend on a number of factors, including the temperature of the water, the size of the airstone, and the amount of time that the water is aerated.

However, in general, you can expect the DO level to increase by 1-2 mg/L for every hour of aeration.


For example, if you start with a gallon of tap water with a DO level of 6 mg/L, and you aerate it with an airstone for 1 hour, you can expect the DO level to increase to 8 mg/L.""

@Rootsruler so if this is right, over 24 hours of aerating a solution from 6mg it would increase to 30mg

ill verify once i get a DO probe lol

 

[Observer]

easiest and most effective way would be you hang the plant in mist, lol.

and the roots dangle.

then youre limited to atmo oxygen

then you need an o2 concentrator, something that produces o2, or a pressurized tank filled with o2.

 

[Observer]

some stuff is being repeated, my bad

just wanna make sure no one misses anything but i suppose its all right there lol

 

[Observer]

this is what i plan on doing.

im just trying to figure the best/easiest way to suspend the plants.

could maybe choke em out in a clothes line like figuration lol

but i was also thinking about a lattice structure.

 

[Rootsruler]

@Rootsruler so if this is right, over 24 hours of aerating a solution from 6mg it would increase to 30mg

ill verify once i get a DO probe lol

Is there a threshold where too much O makes it toxic to the plant?

 

[Rootsruler]

im just trying to figure the best/easiest way to suspend the plants.

could maybe choke em out in a clothes line like figuration lol

but i was also thinking about a lattice structure.

What you're describing is aero/fog ponics..........

 

[Observer]

What you're describing is aero/fog ponics..........

fogponics would be the delivery method for the nutrients and water, open to atmo oxygen

basically yea lol

but also elevated o2 levels "fogponics"'

aeroponics is high pressure - specific nano size droplets to attach to the root hairs/system properly.

 

[Observer]

Is there a threshold where too much O makes it toxic to the plant?

well i think moe got to atleast 90mg/l of DO if im not mistaken, and if not higher.

id suspect to a point obviously but whether that point is even achievable or realistic or needed, idk.

im looking into it

 

[Rootsruler]

well i think moe got to atleast 90mg/l of DO if im not mistaken, and if not higher.

id suspect to a point obviously but whether that point is even achievable or realistic or needed, idk.

im looking into it

Awesome! I would venture to guess that even with a large airstone and surface agitation it would be difficult to get it as high as Moe in an ambient setting so nothing to worry about on that front.

 

[Observer]

Awesome! I would venture to guess that even with a large airstone and surface agitation it would be difficult to get it as high as Moe in an ambient setting so nothing to worry about on that front.

oh yea, no lol

that was with an o2 concentrator in his fogponic rig/chamber

 

[Zen_seeker]

"Aeration: This is the most effective way to increase the DO level in water. It can be done by pouring the water back and forth between two containers, using an aerator, or by creating waterfalls or other areas of turbulence."

- Google Bard

I do this every feed. Also “shoot” nutes into water with syringe to make air jet bubbles into mix. No idea if it helps but I’ve always done it.

 

[Observer]

I do this every feed. Also “shoot” nutes into water with syringe to make air jet bubbles into mix. No idea if it helps but I’ve always done it.

The response I keep trying to give isnt as open-shut

 

[Observer]

Awesome! I would venture to guess that even with a large airstone and surface agitation it would be difficult to get it as high as Moe in an ambient setting so nothing to worry about on that front.

Found something else

Increase DO in a Bioreactor with Hydrogen Peroxide

Increase DO in a Bioreactor with Hydrogen Peroxide Hydrogen peroxide can be used to increase the dissolved oxygen (DO) concentration in an aerobic bioreactor, often referred to as “DO Supplementation.” Using hydrogen peroxide is typically not a first choice because chemically increasing DO is...

www.thewastewaterblog.com

 

[Zen_seeker]

The response I keep trying to give isnt as open-shut

I’m aware. But one does what one can with what one has.

I wondered if adding h202 to sitting water before or after adding nutes would help, damage, or do nothing before adding to soil.

For all I know the act of pouring onto the medium is enough to allow any added o2 to gas off. Or adding h2o2 to nutes has undesired effects I haven’t considered yet.

I’ve wondered about this since GNick noted he added h2o2 to water he pops seeds in.

 

[Observer]

I’m aware. But one does what one can with what one has.

I wondered if adding h202 to sitting water before or after adding nutes would help, damage, or do nothing before adding to soil.

For all I know the act of pouring onto the medium is enough to allow any added o2 to gas off. Or adding h2o2 to nutes has undesired effects I haven’t considered yet.

I’ve wondered about this since GNick noted he added h2o2 to water he pops seeds in.

that im not sure id have to research more


my brain isnt working right now ill have to come back

 

[Observer]

The response I keep trying to give isnt as open-shut

that will definite

I do this every feed. Also “shoot” nutes into water with syringe to make air jet bubbles into mix. No idea if it helps but I’ve always done it.

that will definitely increase DO

is it worth it? over the whole system, big picture.


if it can be sustained maybe

idk

had trouble getting that out

 

[Observer]

.needed more light.

Thx ViperSpidar.

Lol

Let's see


If I wasn't so tired I'd put all my available lights in here just to see how bright

Maybe tomorrow, fuck around and find out

Teehee



Well if that one crooked ass fan.

 

[Observer]

Man something is wrong with this new bag of 5-12-26 Im trying out, or my pH is off or so

 

[Observer]

Those peppers getting fatter every night

 

[SSgrower]

yea seems to work easily in a sammy bag just not too many in one

This "cornbread mafia" type sent his in rockwool cubes, wetted and wrapped in paper towel moist when I opened it after a trip down the Mississippi snail mail! In a baggie too. Bags hold moisture. SS

 

[Zen_seeker]

.needed more light.

Thx ViperSpidar.

Lol

Let's see


If I wasn't so tired I'd put all my available lights in here just to see how bright

Maybe tomorrow, fuck around and find out

Teehee



Well if that one crooked ass fan.

Just took in about 6 more tomatoes, 4 string beans, and two peppers. Nice to see they do well in the tent.

What have you found to be the best veggies for indoor winter grows?

 

[Observer]

Just took in about 6 more tomatoes, 4 string beans, and two peppers. Nice to see they do well in the tent.

What have you found to be the best veggies for indoor winter grows?

I've yet to grow many veggies but peppers seem to do decent

I was growing some cucumbers but they like to lay down lol

Definitely lettuce and basils are ez.

any microgreen should be simple indoors probably.

I plan on growing more veggies soon but I wanted an outdoor space for it

 

[Rootsruler]

Do you run airstones?

 

[Observer]

Do you run airstones?

I have not tried yet with any other media besides water.

may be a good idea to wrap pantyhose or something similar to attempt to filter the air going into the airstones to prevent any type of contamination

 

[Observer]

Do you run airstones?

got a little air pump going right now on a seed i just started in a collar floating in water

 

[Observer]

Perk

 

[Zen_seeker]

I've yet to grow many veggies but peppers seem to do decent

I was growing some cucumbers but they like to lay down lol

Definitely lettuce and basils are ez.

any microgreen should be simple indoors probably.

I plan on growing more veggies soon but I wanted an outdoor space for it

I’ve started most veggies in the side zones before moving outside.

I can confirm lettuce and tomatoes but both grew strange compared to outdoor. Cucumbers might trellis okay. Another grower had them on the side of his shed or fence as well as flat surface. I suck with names.

I was hoping to do a few indoor this winter on side zones. With mushrooms in one as well. Need to test first. Worried about screwing up mushrooms.

 

[Zen_seeker]

got a little air pump going right now on a seed i just started in a collar floating in water

You try a little h2o2 in water for seed? I added it for my last seedling. Popped in a day or two as normal so idk if it helps but GNick says he does it so I try it now and then.

 

[Observer]

You try a little h2o2 in water for seed? I added it for my last seedling. Popped in a day or two as normal so idk if it helps but GNick says he does it so I try it now and then.

Oh yeah
I put 3-5ml of h2o2 in all my gallon solutions


Think I had a dream about using more, lmao.

 

[Observer]

Filled right back in a day or two later.

 

[SSgrower]

Checkin in on ya bro, I use h2o2 in a cocktail glass 3% peroxide is fine, two caps is all I usually use for that size container. Cheers bro! SS

 

[Observer]

Checkin in on ya bro, I use h2o2 in a cocktail glass 3% peroxide is fine, two caps is all I usually use for that size container. Cheers bro! SS

Forgot to mention I was use 34% solution at 3-5ml per gallon every watering.

I may take one plant and try 6, 7 or 8 mLs.

 

[Observer]

Yeah I can't take pictures for shit.

5.8g off a compact solo, this Data tells me I could possibly do even better and more compact, and this was certainly no test or controlled experiment.


420*7 is totally do-able,albeit, dialed THEE fuck in.


The next thing to see/figure is the shortest, most dense theoretically possible plant.


I think from a plant that is 12inches, you could Atleast get 6grams off of it, if not more depending on genetics and methodology.

 

[Observer]

Root density will be a key variable too perhaps


I believe a more-dense-root-mass is achievable In 100% Vermiculite compared to 100% Coir, so I'll probably be using Vermiculite instead for that 420 grow.

I will also need blue leaning spectrum.
How heavy-leaning "blue spec" I should use to maximize that short-node-spacing and benefit from "full spec", not sure.

Maybe not needed, but the Blue would definitely help keep them compact as possible.

Will absolutely want a automatic watering system in place, I could handwater the 420 solos but I need consistency and multiple waterings throughout the light cycle.

And the time it'll take to manually do it right, is the time I don't really have with a baby running around.


There's some more things but not going to talk about them yet


Combining all of these variables and "tricks", a 420 solo cup run in a 5x5 space , around 7g harvest each plant should be a theoretically possible scenario.

And I plan to pull it off just like I did the first 210 run but better.

 

[Observer]

Also found a place, been throwing shit away and starting to pack up

Should be able to move in the next day or two or so

 

[Observer]

Yes I'm going to cure in this lol.


Crispy on the outside but seems there's moisture on the inside so it should be fine

 

[Zen_seeker]

Also found a place, been throwing shit away and starting to pack up

Should be able to move in the next day or two or so

Cool

Glad that’s coming together. Moving sucks but a new place is usually a nice change. And you get to plan out your space to crap ratio.

How’s the shrooms coming? Might have missed any new posts due to data/lag.

Hope the move goes smoothly. Best of luck on your new home.

 

[Observer]

Cool

Glad that’s coming together. Moving sucks but a new place is usually a nice change. And you get to plan out your space to crap ratio.

How’s the shrooms coming? Might have missed any new posts due to data/lag.

Hope the move goes smoothly. Best of luck on your new home.

Thanks appreciate it

Think I kept the one that was doing good too long, and it's food started to run out.

I did a grain transfer but it finally got contaminated, through it out this morning.

I have a minitote going though that looks like it's colonizing correctly, but I feel/think it may run out
of food.

May get some fruit this time but I don't feel very strong I will, as first time actually attempting the fruiting process now and yeah, idk.



Once I get moved and settled I'll definitely start pasteurization attempts again and get back on it
Making some grain spawn.

 

[Observer]

Those peppers, bigger every night

Debate on perk to be had on the other thread