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Stoney grows Honey Fried Bananas in RDWC SCROG

Stoneyluv said:
yes these are the ones i have... been trying to get a photo but haven't been able to.

i've tried a few of the popular methods: poisons, predators, soap. everything has kept them at bay but not been able to stop them from coming back.
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Your only chance is to break the cycle. Females over winter way up north. These fucks are dedicated to staying put if you keep feeding them new plants.

Most cures do not cover the whole growth cycle. Like you mentioned ozone does not kill eggs. You may need to overlap treatments like predatory mites right after the ozone to clean up the eggs that got missed.
 
moe.red said:
Your only chance is to break the cycle. Females over winter way up north. These fucks are dedicated to staying put if you keep feeding them new plants.

Most cures do not cover the whole growth cycle. Like you mentioned ozone does not kill eggs. You may need to overlap treatments like predatory mites right after the ozone to clean up the eggs that got missed.
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i get what you're saying man, i just need to stay on top of it and keep swapping it up. i just have to work harder and do a better job. i need to find a way to "cap off" the top of the clay. i would love to be able to turn the plants upside down. ever done that with clay?

just long enough to dip or spray... i could do a better job being more thorough and dipping would help maybe.
 
Dude I feel for you. I’m an all or nothing kinda guy. I’d want zero bugs anywhere so grow number 2 is not a concern.

I’m not doing the work so don’t listen to me, but I’d be yanking plants and the cabinet and sterilize everything with uv or oxy and bleach and whatever you got. Then wait 2 weeks and do it again. Then go buy the lumber and sterilize one more time before b
Rebuilding the cabinet.
 
Stoneyluv said:
i get what you're saying man, i just need to stay on top of it and keep swapping it up. i just have to work harder and do a better job. i need to find a way to "cap off" the top of the clay. i would love to be able to turn the plants upside down. ever done that with clay?

just long enough to dip or spray... i could do a better job being more thorough and dipping would help maybe.
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I don’t see why not. Just 3D print a disk with a slot in it big enough to pass the stalk and hold it over the clay while you flip it.
 
Stoneyluv said:
yes these are the ones i have... been trying to get a photo but haven't been able to.

i've tried a few of the popular methods: poisons, predators, soap. everything has kept them at bay but not been able to stop them from coming back.
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Bleach and or venigar barrier?
 
Or better yet use foam board rather than plywood when you rebuild. Bugs don’t like that stuff near as much as wood.

1 inch insulation 4x8 sheet is cheap. So is the thinner stuff I just used behind the tile I put in the bathroom. Called go board I think.
 
moe.red said:
Dude I feel for you. I’m an all or nothing kinda guy. I’d want zero bugs anywhere so grow number 2 is not a concern.

I’m not doing the work so don’t listen to me, but I’d be yanking plants and the cabinet and sterilize everything with uv or oxy and bleach and whatever you got. Then wait 2 weeks and do it again. Then go buy the lumber and sterilize one more time before b
Rebuilding the cabinet.
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i'm not against this and thought i did it right the first time. i did not wait the two weeks like you say, i just pyrethrin bombed then home defense then bleached two days later.. waited one more day and then might have fucked up reintroduced a possible infected plant.

if this is where i went wrong then i accept it and can fix it. but if it's not and it's something more serious then how would i know?

if i wait the two weeks how could i find out if it's clear? i'm not against it at all.
 
Stoneyluv said:
i'm not against this and thought i did it right the first time. i did not wait the two weeks like you say, i just pyrethrin bombed then home defense then bleached two days later.. waited one more day and then might have fucked up reintroduced a possible infected plant.

if this is where i went wrong then i accept it and can fix it. but if it's not and it's something more serious then how would i know?

if i wait the two weeks how could i find out if it's clear? i'm not against it at all.
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Takes up to 19 days for eggs to hatch iirc. Time is necessary to break the cycle because the eggs are the bastards that screw with you.

Pretty sure you want to kill everything you can but for sure get all the adults so no more eggs get laid. Then wait for the eggs you missed to hatch and repeat. Eventually you will kill everything that hatches before it can reproduce.

As far as knowing if you are clear? I don’t know how. You could have an egg on your jacket sleeve you reintroduce. I went thru this with something similar and was able to eradicate but still kept my butt cheeks clenched for several grows after.

I also used a steam cleaner during the cleanup phase. Pretty much everything I had I hit it with. It worked.
 
moe.red said:
Takes up to 19 days for eggs to hatch iirc. Time is necessary to break the cycle because the eggs are the bastards that screw with you.

Pretty sure you want to kill everything you can but for sure get all the adults so no more eggs get laid. Then wait for the eggs you missed to hatch and repeat. Eventually you will kill everything that hatches before it can reproduce.

As far as knowing if you are clear? I don’t know how. You could have an egg on your jacket sleeve you reintroduce. I went thru this with something similar and was able to eradicate but still kept my butt cheeks clenched for several grows after.

I also used a steam cleaner during the cleanup phase. Pretty much everything I had I hit it with. It worked.
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you're right Moe, i need to quit fooling myself and wasting my time. i only have a few more weeks till the other cabinet is harvested and need to do a total and full clean with no plants and no limits. this is the worst i've ever had them so i need to treat it as such.

it sucks now but i'll get over it.
 
I just sacrificed 4 @ 4 foot tall Tropicana Cherry clones.
I don't negotiate with terrorist.
The battle is not over. " I am well aware".
It is a life cycle with pest and generational cycles in some cases.
 
steamroller said:
I just sacrificed 4 @ 4 foot tall Tropicana Cherry clones.
I don't negotiate with terrorist.
The battle is not over. " I am well aware".
It is a life cycle with pest and generational cycles in some cases.
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Specially with those two spotted bitches!
 
CannaGranny said:
Specially with those two spotted bitches!
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I won't fight mites that is for sure.
I don't want to fight anything.
I got good at breeding fish through strict protocol and passion.
If you don't do what the best do you won't achieve what best do. Not going to say some don't get lucky and lucky is king next to cash.
There really are no short cuts. We are seeing this in "breeding" and in remedies for issues IMO.
Just conveniences for those without enough time to do it right.

I will not say that those who recover from issues did not win, but today everyone gets a trophy for playing.
Life and growing should be a marathon and not a sprint.
I will Kill all my plants like all my fish surely died, the question and ultimate goal is what came from them.
Did I leave more than you took kind of thing.
 
message clearly heard loud and clear.... i understand!

sorry to rasta Jeff... sorry to gifter 420 for the seeds, sorry to the ganja gods, sorry to any of you that spent time reading this.

thanks everyone for keeping me steered in the right direction and making the right decisions!!!!

moe.red said:
I’m pretty anal about my growspace too. I haven’t brought in a plant from outside since my mishap.

Dhl is at the front door delivering my o2 pooper.

;roc;tyvm;tree2;xmassmile
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you're the man Moe!!!!! thanks so much Santa Red!!!!!
 
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so i have officially identified the mites as two spotters... could be worse i guess. i removed the plants and bombed the room last night, i haven't opened it up yet. i'm gonna hit the plywood and studs with steam, the floor liner is coming out and will be replaced, another bomb or two, maybe a no pest strip, and i have dormant oil to saturate all wood with. i need to wait till i harvest the black room before i spray the oil, i wanna spray both cabinets at once, then maybe bomb them both at once again too.

here's what i got..

https://imgur.com/a/Q8UuiQC

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steamroller said:
Man I feel your pain.
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i know ya do... there will be gratification and pride though once we clean.

this will give me some time to modify my net cup situation and try some coco/perlite.. i want roots like Moe:

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it's confirmed though 100% i have mites in both cabinets... i found them on two plants last night. i'll probably do a shorter harvest, not crazy early but at least a few days earlier than i would. i plan to bomb the entire basement and give em everything i got!
 
moe.red said:
EC probes need to be temp compensated.

I’ll show you what I mean when I head back down.
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I never looked into why?

Besides temperature, which is just a term for "energy' in "scientific terms"

Cold, less energy, the nutrients are more dense, or more contracted together In a solution? As more energy, the ions would be more separate, or further apart?

so the PPM would read higher or lower than it actually is?

This is what Gemini says ~

EC probes need to be temperature compensated because the conductivity of a solution is significantly influenced by temperature. Here's why:


  • Temperature's Effect on Ion Mobility:
    • As temperature increases, the kinetic energy of ions in a solution also increases.

    • This increased kinetic energy leads to faster movement of ions.
    • Faster ion movement results in higher conductivity, even if the concentration of ions remains the same.
 
Observer said:
I never looked into why?

Besides temperature, which is just a term for "energy' in "scientific terms"

Cold, less energy, the nutrients are more dense, or more contracted together In a solution? As more energy, the ions would be more separate, or further apart?

so the PPM would read higher or lower than it actually is?

This is what Gemini says ~

EC probes need to be temperature compensated because the conductivity of a solution is significantly influenced by temperature. Here's why:


  • Temperature's Effect on Ion Mobility:
    • As temperature increases, the kinetic energy of ions in a solution also increases.

    • This increased kinetic energy leads to faster movement of ions.
    • Faster ion movement results in higher conductivity, even if the concentration of ions remains the same.
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after reading about it a bit i decided i do want a temp sensor on it. i checked into it and the sensor is only $12 for temp so i added it to the parts list. Moe is helping me out and i'll have a live monitor for DO/O2, EC, pH, and temp of my rez. gonna be sweet!!!!!!!
 
Hey …there’s my dancing banana that escaped my line up..the smiley doing a wheelies gone walkabouts aswell. 1734761966416.gif
 
Stoneyluv said:
after reading about it a bit i decided i do want a temp sensor on it. i checked into it and the sensor is only $12 for temp so i added it to the parts list. Moe is helping me out and i'll have a live monitor for DO/O2, EC, pH, and temp of my rez. gonna be sweet!!!!!!!
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This thread is a good read! Sorry to hear about the mites though 😕 What kind of live monitor were u looking at? I'd love to go that way as well,
 
Skinnypuppy80 said:
This thread is a good read! Sorry to hear about the mites though 😕 What kind of live monitor were u looking at? I'd love to go that way as well,
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thanks man, i've started some cleaning and hope to rid my place of all pests to start the new year. just waiting on my soil crop to finish up and i'll clean it all at once. i'll keep this thread going for the next round!!

i'm going to go with DF robot..

ph probe: https://www.dfrobot.com/product-1782.html
EC orobe: https://www.dfrobot.com/product-1123.html
temp probe : https://www.dfrobot.com/product-1354.html
brains: https://www.dfrobot.com/product-610.html

you'll also need some sort if display and from what i understand this can be as basic or as fancy as you depending on what you want and how much you spend. i'd like to have a different display for each sensor but i haven't sorted that out yet. i was planning on getting something from amazon or ebay for the displays. Moe is helping me out with this so i don't pick the wrong ones. once i order everything i'll gladly share the links!

they provide all the coding and it's free from their site. i don't have any experience with an UNO yet but it seems pretty straight forward.
the UNO has 6 analog inputs so room for expansion of three more.

this is the code for the ph: https://github.com/DFRobot/DFRobot_PH

and they offer code and tutorials for the whole thing. i was so impressed with all the detail that i didn't even gather all the files and stuff yet. seemed so easy to get from them just following links. i have a tiny bit experience with chinese esp32's so i assume this will be very similar with loading codes. i also didn't look into adding wifi to it for broadcasting local web pages to your personal devices versus using lcd displays but i bet it could be done.

as for enclosures and mounting i was planning on winging all that. Moe Red is helping with most of it and hope to have some multiple displays to show each sensor value. i haven't placed my order yet though. all the stuff i want comes in just under the free shipping amount and i want to shop i bit before i pay $25 in shipping but honestly pretty soon i'm just gonna say fck it and order what i need and pay the shipping.

you gotta check out the badass stuff Moe uses.. https://atlas-scientific.com/
it's legit if you want to monitor and control everything all in one place. he can see every value including history charts right on one screen. it's next level kind of stuff!!!!
 

coming back for another shot, same thread all new title!!!!!! all new bugs... J/K. i think i got em all. I bombed and sprayed with various miticides and mechanically scrubbed and cleaned and treated for prevention and feel it's the cleanest it's been in over a decade so i feel it's time to try and prove my work. time to start new plants.

most everything is the same only smaller net cups, now using 4" and filled with coco/perlite at about 70/30 ratio versus me using 6" with hydroton the first two starts.

the cultivar is Gassy Cream Cake from Captain Redbeard seeds. the seedlings are young, less than four days since dry seed. but there girls are tough, nice long tap roots and threw their helmets to the side quickly screaming they wanna grow!!! so here we go!!!! ;hd

Week 1 Day 1

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have a great weekend everybody!!!!
;pass
 
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Stoneyluv said:
I am attempting my second hydro grow and this time i will be growing a feminized photo period cultivar named Candylicious by Erie Genetics

i will be using my 25 gallon DIY RDWC two site system with five gallon plant sites. the system itself performed well on it's maiden voyage and i only made two small changes for this round. first change is i added an aquarium heater to the rez because with winter coming my water temps are already around 66° so i installed that today and the second change i made was i added some weather stripping on the lip of the buckets. i had a small issue where they dripped a little if not centered correctly so i gave this a try, i smeared some permatex on the seam too... initial test was a success so i will just keep an eye on the stripping adhesive, if that holds i should be in good shape.

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Water being used is Rain water less than 10ppm

Air Pump is a ALITA little guy.

Nutrients are FloraNova series and Agsil16H as a buffer along with plant revolution Orca and King Crab>
starting solution levels are:
70 ppm of K buffer
  • 70 ppm of cal/mag
  • 100 ppm of Nova grow
=240 total ppm @ 5.5 ph


Light is a CLW solarsystem 550 gen2 with programmable spectrum.

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this will be a SCROG style grow and will be a first for me so i will be seeking guidance on that from our very own @CannaGranny !!!

things are just getting started now and showing signs of life!!!!

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so with that it's time to get this journal started! :D
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Sticker i need
 
Stoneyluv said:

coming back for another shot, same thread all new title!!!!!! all new bugs... J/K. i think i got em all. I bombed and sprayed with various miticides and mechanically scrubbed and cleaned and treated for prevention and feel it's the cleanest it's been in over a decade so i feel it's time to try and prove my work. time to start new plants.

most everything is the same only smaller net cups, now using 4" and filled with coco/perlite at about 70/30 ratio versus me using 6" with hydroton the first two starts.

the cultivar is Gassy Cream Cake from Captain Redbeard seeds. the seedlings are young, less than four days since dry seed. but there girls are tough, nice long tap roots and threw their helmets to the side quickly screaming they wanna grow!!! so here we go!!!! ;hd

Week 1 Day 1

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have a great weekend everybody!!!!
;pass
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Coco and perlite? I've heard other ppl using that instead of hydroton. lmk how u like it vs hydroton pretty please 🙏
 
doublej said:
Sticker i need
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he sent me a magnet on my first order too!!! hehe

CannaGranny said:

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Granny is your discount code still valid? or was that a limited time thing?

Skinnypuppy80 said:
Coco and perlite? I've heard other ppl using that instead of hydroton. lmk how u like it vs hydroton pretty please 🙏
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yes sir, giving the coco and perlite a try. i rinsed the coco extremely good first and made sure it was pre moistened before going into the system. i had it in there without a plant for over a week just to make sure my waterfall didn't erode any of it inside the netcup, but so far so good!! i didn't pack it in very tight either.

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my goal with this is that the tap root finds some extra resistance travelling down through the coco and encourages it to side branch the roots. this is gonna be a scrog so i'm trying to force the roots to grow the way i want the top to.

I'm hoping to achieve roots like Moe Red did here in this photo bump>>>
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I got a long way till i'm at that point but i gotta at least try!!!

today they're both up and growing... i'm going to top off the extra space with some more coco mix for some stem support.

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and just to have a hydro versus soil race, i also have some same seedlings in my soil cabinet and using the same spectrum of lighting.... side by side!!!

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Stoneyluv said:
he sent me a magnet on my first order too!!! hehe



Granny is your discount code still valid? or was that a limited time thing?



yes sir, giving the coco and perlite a try. i rinsed the coco extremely good first and made sure it was pre moistened before going into the system. i had it in there without a plant for over a week just to make sure my waterfall didn't erode any of it inside the netcup, but so far so good!! i didn't pack it in very tight either.

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my goal with this is that the tap root finds some extra resistance travelling down through the coco and encourages it to side branch the roots. this is gonna be a scrog so i'm trying to force the roots to grow the way i want the top to.

I'm hoping to achieve roots like Moe Red did here in this photo bump>>>
1730801693998-jpeg.78240


I got a long way till i'm at that point but i gotta at least try!!!

today they're both up and growing... i'm going to top off the extra space with some more coco mix for some stem support.

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and just to have a hydro versus soil race, i also have some same seedlings in my soil cabinet and using the same spectrum of lighting.... side by side!!!

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Hey Stoney!
I just hit Redbeards for a code to save some money. I should have that on Monday. They are in the middle of changing servers and not sure what all has transferred over. If you do make an order using the coupon code he provides, in the comment section just type CannaGranny. We get credit for that for the forum and it provides free seeds for the forum’s monthly contests etc.
What ya got in mind?
 
CannaGranny said:
Hey Stoney!
I just hit Redbeards for a code to save some money. I should have that on Monday. They are in the middle of changing servers and not sure what all has transferred over. If you do make an order using the coupon code he provides, in the comment section just type CannaGranny. We get credit for that for the forum and it provides free seeds for the forum’s monthly contests etc.
What ya got in mind?
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three of everything!! hehehe

.

not set on every one of these yet but got my eye on:

Cement Shoes & Creek Walker, just because of you.
Mr. Sour Pantz
Blueberry Kool-Aid
Silly Billy Pear
Sour patch dubs
 
Stoneyluv said:
three of everything!! hehehe

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not set on every one of these yet but got my eye on:

Cement Shoes & Creek Walker, just because of you.
Mr. Sour Pantz
Blueberry Kool-Aid
Silly Billy Pear
Sour patch dubs
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Captainsfamily for 15% off. It’s working now. Remember to write CannaGranny in the comments.
CreekWalker is great! I love the Cement Shoes, but would chose The Shine Or Biscotti Blond over that. Also hearing that the Gassy Cream Cake is fire.
I’ve got the Silly Billy Pear going this round.
 
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