Kuwl...... MH FC 8000 EVO + 6 Plants

[Pipecarver]

Those numbers are per gallon i presume?

yes ml/gal

 

[Kuwl]

I seen some stuff about Athena in the AutoPots newsletter today
https://ctrk.klclick1.com/l/01JX091KFG1GRNSYWK7Y5BWCK7_6
He is doing a run using Athena.
Part 1 he explains a lot and I see I brought the wrong Athena product.
Eh, it worked pretty good anyway.
I like the soil mix he is using and the super chunky perlite too. I am going with mostly soil next time.
Each bag is $77 WOW

He put a good amount of perlite in the bottom instead of the clay balls I used this time.
Either way I go it’s going to be an expensive start up.
I have used and really like Mother Earth Groundswell with great results.
I think it’s about $35 a bag (1.5 cu ft).

Sunset Sunrise works.
Sunrise starts at 8am but Sunset starts at 750 I got it mixed up lol and missed it every time I was looking for it.
I finally noticed it when looking at the PAR value in the app.
Readjusted my deep reds and side lights and everything‘s good now.

I also adjusted the feed levels down to about 900 ppm and the light will go down to 85% tomorrow. I’m knocking it down 5% a week from now on..

 

[OLDCRO]

I seen some stuff about Athena in the AutoPots newsletter today
https://ctrk.klclick1.com/l/01JX091KFG1GRNSYWK7Y5BWCK7_6
He is doing a run using Athena.
Part 1 he explains a lot and I see I brought the wrong Athena product.
Eh, it worked pretty good anyway.
I like the soil mix he is using and the super chunky perlite too. I am going with mostly soil next time.
Each bag is $77 WOW
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He put a good amount of perlite in the bottom instead of the clay balls I used this time.
Either way I go it’s going to be an expensive start up.
I have used and really like Mother Earth Groundswell with great results.
I think it’s about $35 a bag (1.5 cu ft).

Sunset Sunrise works.
Sunrise starts at 8am but Sunset starts at 750 I got it mixed up lol and missed it every time I was looking for it.
I finally noticed it when looking at the PAR value in the app.
Readjusted my deep reds and side lights and everything‘s good now.

I also adjusted the feed levels down to about 900 ppm and the light will go down to 85% tomorrow. I’m knocking it down 5% a week from now on..

I bought a bag of this same stuff for 35.00 canadian

 

[Pipecarver]

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I bought a bag of this same stuff for 35.00 canadian

Yes those are what I get in the compressed cubes. 3.2 cu/ft bales in Sunshine Mix, Promix or ABSGreenworld VPW30 $35-$40

 

[Kuwl]

Seems Canada has the best soil to buy .....not here tho.
Bunch of farmers, I guess.
Took me forever to get the Pro Mix but they finally got it in.
But none of the premium soils I crave lol.

Heat and humi rising in the grow room.
I got it down to 87 n 52% almost night time so the temp will drop soon,

I got a good guess to who's who!
I marked them accordingly and pretty sure I'm right.
As long as the smoke is good who cares? haha me!
Truffles is the shorty in the front right side.
Next to her in the other attached small pot is a Blue Dream.
The 2 in the back are LSD I could tell by the palm tree look on one, the other is similar.
Middly left is the other BD and on the other side, right middle, is Blue God.
Blue God has some big buds and a nice cola going for it.
Truffles has these smallish white buds, the plant is on the small side too.
5 Weeks tomorrow

Pic's

White Truffles

Blue God

 

[Zen_seeker]

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I bought a bag of this same stuff for 35.00 canadian

This is what I use. Down to maybe 1/4 bale. Stores gone now and no one else carries it. (Home Depot had some last year in the outdoor section but they wouldn’t sell it.)

 

[Kuwl]

Week 6 is here! Cruising along.

Moved the big shed to the corner of our property.
Was hard, had to remove the flooring to move it.
Tractor was of no use. I had to move it by shear force.
Took me a almost a week, with a pause cause of rain and another wk for me to recover.
Got some grass growing already, where it use to be.
Got it done tho.

Also moved out my lazy Daughter's stuff out of the GH.
She was mad as hell and The next day, her and boyfriend, moved it to her place, with wagons, a few blocks away,
It's crazy no one in this family drives or owns a car but us, well we used to have a car.
So now trying to sprout some seeds in the GH with lil luck so far.
The cucumber seeds all sprouted and some of the chives also sprouted.
Have to use seeds, no way to get plants from HD or Walmart.

Plants are doing well.
A lil burn from my vigorus feed in previous weeks (1300ppm).
Down to 800 PPM and holding now.
I did add some Flower Fuel to both tanks and will continue that one more week.
1/4 tsp. per gal.

Light is 80% and will stay there till next week (7) then down another 5% to 75%
I'll turn off Deep Reds @ wk 8 prob.
10" above the highest and 65k lux reading at tree top lvl. Leaf temp is @ 77%
Not much tri's right now but did notice the sidelights are helping the buds nearest to get lots of sugar.
I wish I set up the side's a little sooner and had another set too.

My electric bill with this masive 800w light is less than my old 480w light.
$175 vs $250

I set humidifier @ 50% it rarely gets it down lower than that anyway.
I raise and lower intake/exhaust fans depending on the room temp/hummi
Cannot understand why the CO2 raises suddenly then goes down.
Intake air comes from a pipe leading to the alley. But not many cars use it.
Then goes back down after 20/30 mins or less.

Plant Pics

 

[doublej]

Week 6 is here! Cruising along.

Moved the big shed to the corner of our property.
Was hard, had to remove the flooring to move it.
Tractor was of no use. I had to move it by shear force.
Took me a almost a week, with a pause cause of rain and another wk for me to recover.
Got some grass growing already, where it use to be.
Got it done tho.
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Also moved out my lazy Daughter's stuff out of the GH.
She was mad as hell and The next day, her and boyfriend, moved it to her place, with wagons, a few blocks away,
It's crazy no one in this family drives or owns a car but us, well we used to have a car.
So now trying to sprout some seeds in the GH with lil luck so far.
The cucumber seeds all sprouted and some of the chives also sprouted.
Have to use seeds, no way to get plants from HD or Walmart.

Plants are doing well.
A lil burn from my vigorus feed in previous weeks (1300ppm).
Down to 800 PPM and holding now.
I did add some Flower Fuel to both tanks and will continue that one more week.
1/4 tsp. per gal.

Light is 80% and will stay there till next week (7) then down another 5% to 75%
I'll turn off Deep Reds @ wk 8 prob.
10" above the highest and 65k lux reading at tree top lvl. Leaf temp is @ 77%
Not much tri's right now but did notice the sidelights are helping the buds nearest to get lots of sugar.
I wish I set up the side's a little sooner and had another set too.
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My electric bill with this masive 800w light is less than my old 480w light.
$175 vs $250

I set humidifier @ 50% it rarely gets it down lower than that anyway.
I raise and lower intake/exhaust fans depending on the room temp/hummi
Cannot understand why the CO2 raises suddenly then goes down.
Intake air comes from a pipe leading to the alley. But not many cars use it.
View attachment 105422Then goes back down after 20/30 mins or less.View attachment 105423

Plant Pics

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Still the #4 mix?

 

[Kuwl]

Still the #4 mix?

Nope maybe next grow if I can get it.
$56 from Amazon
Using Pro Mix, Coco Coir, Perlite 3-2-1 mix for this one.

 

[Pipecarver]

Week 6 is here! Cruising along.

Moved the big shed to the corner of our property.
Was hard, had to remove the flooring to move it.
Tractor was of no use. I had to move it by shear force.
Took me a almost a week, with a pause cause of rain and another wk for me to recover.
Got some grass growing already, where it use to be.
Got it done tho.
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Also moved out my lazy Daughter's stuff out of the GH.
She was mad as hell and The next day, her and boyfriend, moved it to her place, with wagons, a few blocks away,
It's crazy no one in this family drives or owns a car but us, well we used to have a car.
So now trying to sprout some seeds in the GH with lil luck so far.
The cucumber seeds all sprouted and some of the chives also sprouted.
Have to use seeds, no way to get plants from HD or Walmart.

Plants are doing well.
A lil burn from my vigorus feed in previous weeks (1300ppm).
Down to 800 PPM and holding now.
I did add some Flower Fuel to both tanks and will continue that one more week.
1/4 tsp. per gal.

Light is 80% and will stay there till next week (7) then down another 5% to 75%
I'll turn off Deep Reds @ wk 8 prob.
10" above the highest and 65k lux reading at tree top lvl. Leaf temp is @ 77%
Not much tri's right now but did notice the sidelights are helping the buds nearest to get lots of sugar.
I wish I set up the side's a little sooner and had another set too.
View attachment 105424
My electric bill with this masive 800w light is less than my old 480w light.
$175 vs $250

I set humidifier @ 50% it rarely gets it down lower than that anyway.
I raise and lower intake/exhaust fans depending on the room temp/hummi
Cannot understand why the CO2 raises suddenly then goes down.
Intake air comes from a pipe leading to the alley. But not many cars use it.
View attachment 105422Then goes back down after 20/30 mins or less.View attachment 105423

Plant Pics

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Hey, Nice crop, That should last you a while eh. It looks like your lattice work is doing the job. All standing upright and looking great. Your yard is huge now...more work to mow it too, You'll need a ride on, then mowing the yard is fun and you'd have wheels to get to Home Depot with a small trailer

 

[Kuwl]

Hey, Nice crop, That should last you a while eh. It looks like your lattice work is doing the job. All standing upright and looking great. Your yard is huge now...more work to mow it too, You'll need a ride on, then mowing the yard is fun and you'd have wheels to get to Home Depot with a small trailer

I hope but now I got the itch and can't wait till the next one.
I'll prob hold back as long as I can, to let the summer heat roll by
and start veggin' in Aug., maybe.

Yep, brought it ($400) before I owned the land, in anticipation of getting it.
I'm like a boy scout horder, almost always prepared.

 

[Pipecarver]

I hope but now I got the itch and can't wait till the next one.
I'll prob hold back as long as I can, to let the summer heat roll by
and start veggin' in Aug., maybe.

Yep, brought it ($400) before I owned the land, in anticipation of getting it.
I'm like a boy scout horder, almost always prepared.
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And you said you had no wheels....They're a pain in the ass to remove the mower deck and then get them back on ....but...it makes them easier to hop curbs with in traffic once they are removed....Cops would only give an old guy riding to Home Depot a warning anyways. Take advantage of our senior years plead senility and that you've lost it, they might give you an escort, lights and all...Hat on sideways and keep calling them dear.

 

[Zen_seeker]

Cops would only give an old guy riding to Home Depot a warning anyways. Take advantage of our senior years plead senility and that you've lost it, they might give you an escort, lights and all...Hat on sideways and keep calling them dear.

Someone’s been playing the game.

I don’t look like a senior yet…but I’ve played the game once or twice.

 

[Kuwl]

Gardening in the Green House
Finaly! Plants are growing nicely.
A lil behind schedule cause of all the bins in there but now I got it all to myself.
Got tomato's (3 kinds, cherry, roma and beersteak ), cucumbers, chives, onions, Hot peppers ( habanaro I think) and bell pepprers.
Not sure the peppers are sprouting yet but I have more seeds if they don't.
Might try to start them seeds in the 'grow room' instead of the GH.
Plants at Walmart were about $5 ea. went there today to stock up on goodies and stuff.
Did not buy any plants tho, too expensive for me.
I'll just try my luck at seeds.
Here's a look at them so far.
These 2 pic's are from when they were just sprouting, maybe 3 days old.
The cuuks are going wild! They always do here. I just transfered them into gal pots.
The others are barely above ground but just transfered to solo cups.
I'm using Miracle Grow and the rest of my Pro Mix for soil.

These pics are 2 days later.

Weed plants doing well too!
I swear the White trufles are getting a grow spurt.
Some of it is above the trellis now, not sure they were before but they are gaining bulk which is a relief to me.
Won't use small pots again. I will have to order 2 more 3.9's.
The beast in the bg is Blue God, I will have to order more of them seeds but already have some others for my next grow. darn!

 

[Kuwl]

Week 7
Battling high temps and high humidity here.
Temp in the room was up in the high 80's RH was @59 at one point.
Now at 86 and 54 got 3 fans going, intake is at 0, exhaust at 3 for now.
This weeks going into the 90's and above the weather bug says.
I might have to run a duct from the cellar window that goes to a crawl space
into my grow room to get some cooler air in there.
In which I would have to fabricate some cardboard to seal the open window and cut a hole for
the duct then, and here's the hard part, somehow make a hole into my room for the duct to fit in.
Complicated.
Anyway I put in the rez tank a gallon n a half jugs of frozen water to keep the tank water temp down.
Which in turn feeds the pots some nice cool water. idk maybe it helps.
I'm letter the tanks drain down before changing the nute mix.
So maybe 2 or 3 more days, then out goes Core and Cal/Mag and in comes Fade.
To me it looks like 3 more weeks to go.
Deep Reds are staying on for another week at least.
Light is going down from 75% to 70% any time now.
I am likeing how the plants look so far. I'm hoping for more frost tho.
White Truffles has the most sugar on them but no big cola's there.
The plant is smallish with nice buds but not on the heavy side.
I did notice a bit of a boost in bud size the last few days so there's hope.
The others need help lol. I do give them a 1/4 tsp of Flower Fuel ( Very similar to Kool Bloom )
but no burst of tri's yet.
Pic's (I'm just throwing these out there, I forgot who's who in the pic's haha)

 

[Driver77]

How do you like those SF lights on the sides? I'm still playing with some under canopy lighting...just need to find some I like instead of what I've been using. I like the covered diodes so plants can be right up against them without burning.

 

[Kuwl]

How do you like those SF lights on the sides? I'm still playing with some under canopy lighting...just need to find some I like instead of what I've been using. I like the covered diodes so plants can be right up against them without burning.

They are great but should have started them sooner in the grow.
They did good the last grow with bigger buds on the lower branches.
I was thinking of buying another set when I came across this light from MarsHydro,
Adlite 100 I think it’s called. $129
Really nice light. It can hang also.
I’ll be using it next run.

 

[Pipecarver]

They are great but should have started them sooner in the grow.
They did good the last grow with bigger buds on the lower branches.
I was thinking of buying another set when I came across this light from MarsHydro,
Adlite 100 I think it’s called. $129
Really nice light. It can hang also.
I’ll be using it next run.
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Wow, that's quite the light for undergrowth, does it come with the tripods? I'm looking at these, They will be my next light purchase. I'd have bought them already but I just ordered a trail cam and my monthly grow budget is blown on the cam + a few other gadgets.

Although, last night it was 34c here I took my wife out for diner at a local pub. After ordering I gave her $20 to play one of the 2 slot machine's they have. 10 min later she walks back with a $300 ticket, Yea ha diner paid for and a couple hundred extra. Still....that's hers now I can't buy lights with it....Next month for sure and its coming fast.

 

[Kuwl]

Wow, that's quite the light for undergrowth, does it come with the tripods? I'm looking at these, They will be my next light purchase. I'd have bought them already but I just ordered a trail cam and my monthly grow budget is blown on the cam + a few other gadgets.

Although, last night it was 34c here I took my wife out for diner at a local pub. After ordering I gave her $20 to play one of the 2 slot machine's they have. 10 min later she walks back with a $300 ticket, Yea ha diner paid for and a couple hundred extra. Still....that's hers now I can't buy lights with it....Next month for sure and its coming fast.


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Yeah, it comes with the tripods and also hangers if you want to hang them.

Nice win on a slot machine dang I miss going to the casino. Haven’t had the extra cash lately, but we’ll be going soon enough after we got settlement.

I like my current side light a lot, from spider farmer, but for six plants, I would need an extra set and instead I’m getting the adlite 100

Mars Hydro ADlite 100 Under Canopy 100W LED Grow Light

Discover the ADlite 100, a 100W under-canopy LED grow light designed to enhance light penetration and boost plant growth. Ideal for indoor gardening, horticulture, and vertical farming. Energy-efficient, durable, and perfect for every growing stage.

www.mars-hydro.com

Today is first cool day in awhile.
Only getting up to 80° today.

Blue God is showing signs of ripening.
I think only a week away.
Can Pic from the opposite side of the room

Blue god front n center

 

[Kuwl]

Yeah, it comes with the tripods and also hangers if you want to hang them.

Nice win on a slot machine dang I miss going to the casino. Haven’t had the extra cash lately, but we’ll be going soon enough after we got settlement.

I like my current side light a lot, from spider farmer, but for six plants, I would need an extra set and instead I’m getting the adlite 100

Mars Hydro ADlite 100 Under Canopy 100W LED Grow Light

Discover the ADlite 100, a 100W under-canopy LED grow light designed to enhance light penetration and boost plant growth. Ideal for indoor gardening, horticulture, and vertical farming. Energy-efficient, durable, and perfect for every growing stage.

www.mars-hydro.com

Today is first cool day in awhile.
Only getting up to 80° today.

Blue God is showing signs of ripening.
I think only a week away.
Can Pic from the opposite side of the room
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Blue god front n center

The pic looked good on my phone lol I think it was the size that screwed it up. Knarly

 

[Pipecarver]

The pic looked good on my phone lol I think it was the size that screwed it up. Knarly

We got lucky again yesterday, went to the casino after a Costco run and with her extra $200 we won big, cashed an $1100 ticket and I won $200 more so it was a Keg steak and Lobster diner us last night...lol...luck runs in bunches it seems....so does bad luck and I've had enough of that.

 

[OLDCRO]

We got lucky again yesterday, went to the casino after a Costco run and with her extra $200 we won big, cashed an $1100 ticket and I won $200 more so it was a Keg steak and Lobster diner us last night...lol...luck runs in bunches it seems....so does bad luck and I've had enough of that.

Ordered a set of the Ion beam 16 side lights yesterday purolater showed this morning going to use next flower start with the AI controller. Going to let controller have complete control of flowering phase, see what happens.

 

[Pipecarver]

I was going to order from Indoor farmer but they only have the 11" in stock I want the 16". I'll most likely order today from AC Infinity, now that I'm up some cash. I don't use this comp for any purchases. Its an isolated old computer with no personal info on......I hope...I spent days on this think trying to rid it of old files and its now just for pics from my grows and these online forums n sht

 

[OLDCRO]

I was going to order from Indoor farmer but they only have the 11" in stock I want the 16". I'll most likely order today from AC Infinity, now that I'm up some cash. I don't use this comp for any purchases. Its an isolated old computer with no personal info on......I hope...I spent days on this think trying to rid it of old files and its now just for pics from my grows and these online forums n sht

I ordered from indoor farmer yesterday they have stock

 

[Pipecarver]

I ordered from indoor farmer yesterday they have stock

Really? I'll look now I switched comps. AC has them at $123...But now that I've looked shipping might be a nightmare fkit Indoorfarmer it is.

Ordered...$183 ish

 

[OLDCRO]

Really? I'll look now I switched comps. AC has them at $123...But now that I've looked shipping might be a nightmare fkit Indoorfarmer it is.

Ordering from acinfinity comes from US 100 plus shipping charge and you have to pay Canadian taxes on delivery on top !!!!

 

[Pipecarver]

Ordering from acinfinity comes from US 100 plus shipping charge and you have to pay Canadian taxes on delivery on top !!!!

I looked at their policy and it wasn't specific about what the actual charges were other than its out of their control and I'm subject to all additional charges. AND their return policy was limited...nope Indoorfarmer makes another sale

 

[Kuwl]

Wow, that's quite the light for undergrowth, does it come with the tripods? I'm looking at these, They will be my next light purchase. I'd have bought them already but I just ordered a trail cam and my monthly grow budget is blown on the cam + a few other gadgets.

Although, last night it was 34c here I took my wife out for diner at a local pub. After ordering I gave her $20 to play one of the 2 slot machine's they have. 10 min later she walks back with a $300 ticket, Yea ha diner paid for and a couple hundred extra. Still....that's hers now I can't buy lights with it....Next month for sure and its coming fast.


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I dunno, I looked at the one's I have from SF then looked at the MH under canopy light then this one from AC, now I'm confused lol.
I was going to get another set like the ones I have (SF Glo 30 32w / $50) but seen the new MH under canopy one's (ADlite 100w / $130 ) now you pointed out these
AC Ionbeam s16 42w / $90 and I get free shipping. I do like the size 16" and less than half the wattage of the MH ADlite. Hard to say what LED's are used in the other lights as they don't say.
Are these AC lights plug and play with no other special controllers needed?

 

[Pipecarver]

I dunno, I looked at the one's I have from SF then looked at the MH under canopy light then this one from AC, now I'm confused lol.
I was going to get another set like the ones I have (SF Glo 30 32w / $50) but seen the new MH under canopy one's (ADlite 100w / $130 ) now you pointed out these
AC Ionbeam s16 42w / $90 and I get free shipping. I do like the size 16" and less than half the wattage of the MH ADlite. Hard to say what LED's are used in the other lights as they don't say.
Are these AC lights plug and play with no other special controllers needed?

I looked at them on AC infinities web site and they have the option of controller type. I don't want one and I could buy one for $99 Usa without a controller on them. No option up here. I'll never use one anyways. They're low watt so full power all the time should be fine. I'll only use in flower anyways in my 5x5.

I dropped some watts going from my Spiderfarmer SE3000 - 3x300=900w the 2 FC4000 are just 640 W add my blues I'm around 725 w green 45w and now the side lights should get me back up where I was around 900w again with a different distribution of wattage. I'm noticing the smaller foot print now that my plants are full I'm missing about a foot as some of my plants are hanging out of coverage I'll have to rope in.

 

[Bandit420]

I dunno, I looked at the one's I have from SF then looked at the MH under canopy light then this one from AC, now I'm confused lol.
I was going to get another set like the ones I have (SF Glo 30 32w / $50) but seen the new MH under canopy one's (ADlite 100w / $130 ) now you pointed out these
AC Ionbeam s16 42w / $90 and I get free shipping. I do like the size 16" and less than half the wattage of the MH ADlite. Hard to say what LED's are used in the other lights as they don't say.
Are these AC lights plug and play with no other special controllers needed?

I have several sets of ACI Ionbeams..The 16" full spectrum bars and 11" UV bars.

Each set will come with a little controller that will plug into the driver. The controller works as a timer and dimmer.
The light system can also plug into any of the ACI controllers that control environment along with light scheduling.

They can also be ran as "dumb" lights. They will be at max power and use an external timer like most older grow lights.

Given their output, dumb is the best option IMO. I run mine off an old analog timer. The controllers just make things confusing and over engineered.
These lights for the most part are like seedling lights, old 2' T5HO or 50 watt CFL type of output and performance, so there's no real need to ever dim them down.