Stoney grows Honey Fried Bananas in RDWC SCROG

[GrumpAzz]

@GrumpAzz , when you add balance to RO water does the ppm rise a little? i'm just wondering if maybe what i was seeing was the mystery nutes in my water being participated out.

Yessir. I'd have to find some notes but, off the top of my head, 250-300 ml adds about 50-80ppm to 50 gallons of RO.

It's not a hell of a lot and I'd say what you got there is pretty much in line with what I get out of it. I just use a bit more to get up into the 9s.

 

[Stoneyluv]

Yessir. I'd have to find some notes but, off the top of my head, 250-300 ml adds about 50-80ppm to 50 gallons of RO.

It's not a hell of a lot and I'd say what you got there is pretty much in line with what I get out of it. I just use a bit more to get up into the 9s.

thanks man, good to know you see the same thing. not sure if this is the balance but i also noticed the solution looked a little cloudy at first, a day later and it was clear.

still looking okay today.. ph and ppm are the same, no change. we're having another heat wave late in summer here and my water temps are up slightly again but it won't last long. and i also have some better insulation coming tomorrow so i'll put that on and should help a little. i can see some new root growth on each one so they haven't quit on me...





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Oh.. and i changed the title of the tread... again.. hahaha

 

[GrumpAzz]

not sure if this is the balance but i also noticed the solution looked a little cloudy at first, a day later and it was clear.

I can't say for sure, but I've seen it cloud up slightly as I added it. Almost a milky color that dissipates quickly. That doesn't happen ever time, though, so I don't know what to say about it. I've assumed that's the silica before it dilutes down. Haven't had it last though.

Did it happen as you mixed or did it show up over a small amount of time?

 

[Zen_seeker]

i can remember rolling barrels of water through the woods one year... last time i did that!!! haha

i bet if you moved the crates right next to the barrel it would get even easier!!! hahaha

I moved them from beside the rain barrel because they weren’t getting as much sun. Too many tall bushes and a tree. Everything is a trade off.

 

[SSHZ]

Some very surprising sour notes on these, which was nice..........."tangy". Only about 1/2 the plants though.

 

[Stoneyluv]

I can't say for sure, but I've seen it cloud up slightly as I added it. Almost a milky color that dissipates quickly. That doesn't happen ever time, though, so I don't know what to say about it. I've assumed that's the silica before it dilutes down. Haven't had it last though.

Did it happen as you mixed or did it show up over a small amount of time?

i didn't notice it all at first but once i put the micros in they're dark and i noticed it. the next day it was totally clear and still is. not sure how long it stayed like that but i noticed it was there.

could have something to do with me not using RO..

I moved them from beside the rain barrel because they weren’t getting as much sun. Too many tall bushes and a tree. Everything is a trade off.

yea i kinda figured you would have already if you could.. i thought just as i hit post.. and besides who keeps their rain barrel in the sun!!!!

its raining here right now. this is the break in temps we need. forecast looks perfect from here on out!!!

Some very surprising sour notes on these, which was nice..........."tangy". Only about 1/2 the plants though.

sweet! i wouldn't mind some buds to be sour!!!! mix em in the same doob for a sweet n sour melody!!!! i'm behind on your thread a few days and will catch up tonight!!

i wish these two HFB would have looked like the third one i have in soil. i'd still have them in soil if all three would have looked like this one...



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my water temps have been spiking through the roof again!!! this damn heat, i've never had i summer like this in over twenty years. i'm just not prepared for it. i think i have a handle on it for now though. the past three of four days were around 76° though!!

so i put some new insulation on the buckets and pipes... no more pink panther, still got the pink panther ring tone on my phone though hahaha (just happens to be coincidence!!)



i also forgo to mention a couple days ago i added 25ml of rapid start... i saw roots forming so i figured they would benefit from it...



the brown roots are all thats left of the original soil roots i pulled through the net cup to start. the rapid start lowered my ph a little then i overshot the raise so now i'm at 5.9. i just left it there for now.

i can really see full advantage of starting from clones even more now. not just for uniformity but wow established plants really take off quick!!

 

[BlueCollarBob]

Wow! Those roots really came on quick. It's fun watching you develop your hydro style. Super neat job on that insulation wrap. Sweet!

 

[Zen_seeker]

i didn't notice it all at first but once i put the micros in they're dark and i noticed it. the next day it was totally clear and still is. not sure how long it stayed like that but i noticed it was there.

could have something to do with me not using RO..



yea i kinda figured you would have already if you could.. i thought just as i hit post.. and besides who keeps their rain barrel in the sun!!!!

its raining here right now. this is the break in temps we need. forecast looks perfect from here on out!!!



sweet! i wouldn't mind some buds to be sour!!!! mix em in the same doob for a sweet n sour melody!!!! i'm behind on your thread a few days and will catch up tonight!!

i wish these two HFB would have looked like the third one i have in soil. i'd still have them in soil if all three would have looked like this one...

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my water temps have been spiking through the roof again!!! this damn heat, i've never had i summer like this in over twenty years. i'm just not prepared for it. i think i have a handle on it for now though. the past three of four days were around 76° though!!

so i put some new insulation on the buckets and pipes... no more pink panther, still got the pink panther ring tone on my phone though hahaha (just happens to be coincidence!!)

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i also forgo to mention a couple days ago i added 25ml of rapid start... i saw roots forming so i figured they would benefit from it...

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the brown roots are all thats left of the original soil roots i pulled through the net cup to start. the rapid start lowered my ph a little then i overshot the raise so now i'm at 5.9. i just left it there for now.

i can really see full advantage of starting from clones even more now. not just for uniformity but wow established plants really take off quick!!

Problems, I don’t see no stinking problems!

Looking soooo much better.

 

[GrumpAzz]

Wow! Those roots really came on quick. It's fun watching you develop your hydro style. Super neat job on that insulation wrap. Sweet!

I agree, Bob. He's gone through the ringer trying to get it all worked out and it looks like he's coming out on top.

Good Job Stoney! Beauts for roots and the wrap job is

 

[Stoneyluv]

Wow! Those roots really came on quick. It's fun watching you develop your hydro style. Super neat job on that insulation wrap. Sweet!

Thanks man, things are still growing okay, they have a little ugly from the transplant but the newest growth seems to look good so onwards and upwards!!!!!

temps are still a degree or two higher than what i want but with cooler nights now i should be fine but i will need a chiller by next june.

Problems, I don’t see no stinking problems!

Looking soooo much better.

we like no problems!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i get to move forward with normal typical growing problems and that i welcome.

thought of you tonight man, went grocery shopping and got some canadian cherries!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hehe

I agree, Bob. He's gone through the ringer trying to get it all worked out and it looks like he's coming out on top.

Good Job Stoney! Beauts for roots and the wrap job is

i'm really liking the roots man, i now am just seeing the power of rdwc, it's a day and night difference in growth compared to what i was seeing before. man i swear i can almost hear the roots growing right now!!! hahahaha

so a couple days in and the ph was diving deep again. i checked my air bubbles and no way it could be them so i looked into the solution more and found a reddit post from somebody that seemed to have the same results i was with it and she said listed part of a chart that said if the EC was over 1.4 then lower it. but if it was under 1.0ec then raise it.. this was the first time i ever heard this advice and she explained her details and it sounded very similar to mine so i checked and saw my ec was only 0.4. so two days ago i raised it to 1.1 and the h has been solid again. i think these established plants were eating way more than i anticipated and ate most of the good stuff the first few days then started to lighten up and look funny.

they seem to be liking the increased nutes... the roots just won't quit.. the right plant has better looking roots though. i topped both plants whe i first put them in. two days ago i topped those tops at the second node as per Granny law. so they must be growing because both of those branches are new and onto the third and fourth node already. well till i cut them off anyway! hehe

i also defoled some of the bigger thicker leaves in way, it opened up the side branching a lot better so i'm glad i did that. i'm kinda shocked that they grew this much in just a week, i thought they'd be shaking it off for at least that long. i haven't been watching the water level too closely right now with putting in ice packs every eight hours it looks fuller than what it is. maybe only a day or two of ice packs and i should be good to go. with no ice i'm sitting at 72F so not as bad as it was last week. maybe the heat helped the bennies and got the roots growing so well.

some pics.. no leaf curl!!






Thanks for lookin in everybody!!!