Kief tumbler

[Dirtbag]

The best hash I think I've ever smoked was brown Moroccan soap bar hash when I was living in England in the late 90's. Fuck that stuff was good. Exotic as hell, and the most distinctly hash tasting hash to ever have hashed. That stuff only got smoked in joints with tobacco. My English buddies were addicted to smoking pot and hash because they mixed it with tobacco lol. Didn't smoke cigarettes, but would smoke 2 or 3 a night mixed with hash or whatever.

 

[MDK]

The best hash I think I've ever smoked was brown Moroccan soap bar hash when I was living in England in the late 90's. Fuck that stuff was good. Exotic as hell, and the most distinctly hash tasting hash to ever have hashed. That stuff only got smoked in joints with tobacco. My English buddies were addicted to smoking pot and hash because they mixed it with tobacco lol. Didn't smoke cigarettes, but would smoke 2 or 3 a night mixed with hash or whatever.

Best hash hash as in old school hash I ever got oddly enough came about 2003 at a "dead show"....we just hit shakedown street since parking was free...didn't even go to the show we were broke and needed some smoke and new we'd find something there....2 grams for 60...but a 1 hit would rip like 20 times and have 2 or 3 people sleeping lol

Best concentrate tho, I'm gonna have to confess it's either gonna be "diamonds" or live resin. Had some diamonds once of a strain called scooby snacks that was just too fire I kept a whole ounce. Live resin I had some Sundae driver from "oil refinery co" I think outta California or Colorado....anyway just the tastiest shit ever super potent too, 96.9% thc I think it was or 98.1...one or the other

 

[Dirtbag]

Best hash hash as in old school hash I ever got oddly enough came about 2003 at a "dead show"....we just hit shakedown street since parking was free...didn't even go to the show we were broke and needed some smoke and new we'd find something there....2 grams for 60...but a 1 hit would rip like 20 times and have 2 or 3 people sleeping lol

Best concentrate tho, I'm gonna have to confess it's either gonna be "diamonds" or live resin. Had some diamonds once of a strain called scooby snacks that was just too fire I kept a whole ounce. Live resin I had some Sundae driver from "oil refinery co" I think outta California or Colorado....anyway just the tastiest shit ever super potent too, 96.9% thc I think it was or 98.1...one or the other

Yeah its very cool to me to experience the difference between old and modern extracts. The age old methods of cannabis use like black hash, made the same way for God knows how long are just a different, almost sacred thing for me. And quite honestly, difficult to create and very unscientific. More of an ancient art form. Modern extracts like live resin and diamonds are on another level completely, and like you say, arguably a much "better" product. But just doesn't have the same experience.

 

[MDK]

Yeah its very cool to me to experience the difference between old and modern extracts. The age old methods of cannabis use like black hash, made the same way for God knows how long are just a different, almost sacred thing for me. And quite honestly, difficult to create and very unscientific. More of an ancient art form. Modern extracts like live resin and diamonds are on another level completely, and like you say, arguably a much "better" product. But just doesn't have the same experience.

All my best batches of hash, and it's been years...but all the best batches I made were accidents lol

 

[Moshmen]

Awesome video you hashheads will enjoy.
This is how traditional black hash is made.

I’m doing small batches with heat and drop of water - definitely an art ! Getting better - I think curing process is important here to get that smooth smoke ? Seems mine smokes better after 3/4 months in the dark- different flower makes different hash for sure , lookin for that right combo, may take a minute but I’m determined to master the old school afghan method

 

[steamroller]

So how do we go about tumbling?
I see most freeze their material.
If you are tumbling buds do you grind them up first.
I have seen buds tumbled whole.
I am sure there are many ways to do this so I want here as many ways as possible and the differences.
Tracking now says tumbler and press will arrive today?

 

[Moshmen]

So how do we go about tumbling?
I see most freeze their material.
If you are tumbling buds do you grind them up first.
I have seen buds tumbled whole.
I am sure there are many ways to do this so I want here as many ways as possible and the differences.
Tracking now says tumbler and press will arrive today?

I over dry first, dryer the better ,imo. then freeze , nugs all about the size of quarter then into tumbler/sifter

 

[steamroller]

It was mostly bandit

Tumbler arrived while wife was out~!
It's all on you now if she sees the press~!
Going to play with it this week coming up.
It is out in the shop since the weed will be chilled also. Convenient storage/ hiding spot~!
I always preferred to screen out in the cold. Probably 30f in the shop now.
Now I can turn it on and get warm and check in as time goes by.

What do you do to your stuff before tumbling if anything?

 

[Moshmen]

Tumbler arrived while wife was out~!
It's all on you now if she sees the press~!
Going to play with it this week coming up.
It is out in the shop since the weed will be chilled also. Convenient storage/ hiding spot~!
I always preferred to screen out in the cold. Probably 30f in the shop now.
Now I can turn it on and get warm and check in as time goes by.

What do you do to your stuff before tumbling if anything?

I don’t tumble yet but screen real quick then just crush up nugs , not pulverize like a grinder , I think bandit puts quarters like money round quarters in the tumbler to do this as it tumbles ? Sounds like A excellent idea to me

 

[Bandit420]

Tumbler arrived while wife was out~!
It's all on you now if she sees the press~!
Going to play with it this week coming up.
It is out in the shop since the weed will be chilled also. Convenient storage/ hiding spot~!
I always preferred to screen out in the cold. Probably 30f in the shop now.
Now I can turn it on and get warm and check in as time goes by.

What do you do to your stuff before tumbling if anything?

I don’t tumble yet but screen real quick then just crush up nugs , not pulverize like a grinder , I think bandit puts quarters like money round quarters in the tumbler to do this as it tumbles ? Sounds like A excellent idea to me

Nah I don't add anything like quarters but I've seen that and I've seen marbles added but I don't do that.

I agree go very dry and colder the better.
The most I really do is remove stems especially on larf and trash runs and that's mostly so they don't tear into the screen or get jammed between the screen and barrel rods.

When I do nug runs I leave them whole and do a short run of maybe 15 minutes and no longer than 30. All I'm trying to do there is take that top layer of trichs off the nugs without turning them into moonrocks. The more they tumble the more they start to look like moonrocks removing layers of flower. Kinda like sanding layers of paint off something.
Sometimes it will look like dispensary flower which gives you a little insight to some of the shady shit commercial grows do before you get to buy that weed but that's for another thread.
After the first tumble I examine the nugs and remove any exposed stems before tumbling again or loading in bags to make rosin.
Short times and slow speed will yield the best results but also give you the least yield. The longer they tumble and especially being so dry the more veg matter will be able to pass thru the sieve

 

[smoke]

As cold as you can get everything. We use the sunroom in winter.

My tumbler is supposed to do 500 grams at a time. I have always done 300 gms at a time. I add the 8 quarters to the load. Looking now to use solid nylon balls this go. Quarters are hard to find back from the spent material.

300 gms in zip lock frose. Crack open the baggie a bit, crunch by hand to break up nugs and dump in tumbler

Aged flower is what i use. (Last years crop) could age the kif too im thinking. But what Frenchy says above maybe press it and let it age in the brick and consume the plant material???

Different tumble times fo 300 gms sample 40 min tumble return 126 gm etc


I think pressing in my press 80 gms at a time thinner is better and time to cure

 

[smoke]

I look at a 15 % return is a good number for squishing and hash. Here's 2 tumbles of 300 gms return is 15%. I then do qwiso and am surprised



Here's what mine looks like going into the tumbler

 

[Dirtbag]

@smoke do you clean the kief at all using static or anything? Or just press what comes out of the tumbler?

A neat method I saw in a video from I think Morocco, was they keep the screened kief really cold, and then in from of a window they slowly pour it out of a bowl onto the floor, the trichomes are heavier and fall straight down while the stems and plant matter blow a foot or so away. Also saw a technique using nitrile gloves that seems fairly simple.

 

[Dirtbag]

I love watching these videos of hash production from traditional regions, I think this is Afghanistan. Amazing to see the sheer volume of plant material they work with, but also the different steps they take to get the resin clean. The final cleaning step here they use 2 large steel blades swept through the kief repeatedly to collect pure trichomes.

 

[steamroller]

I have seen the glove thing but don't remember the details of which glove is right.
Dust in the wind is a strange but familiar tune. Make sense also.
Man, I have a hard time accepting tossing any of it.
With no game I think it comes down to spin speed and micron. It will be freezing for me where it all happens so bonus.
Like growing and curing [ which I also think merits discussion] I think a slower approach may work better.

I love watching these videos of hash production from traditional regions, I think this is Afghanistan. Amazing to see the sheer volume of plant material they work with, but also the different steps they take to get the resin clean. The final cleaning step here they use 2 large steel blades swept through the kief repeatedly to collect pure trichomes.

I remember seeing that video the first time ~!
Blew my mind.

 

[Moshmen]

As cold as you can get everything. We use the sunroom in winter.

My tumbler is supposed to do 500 grams at a time. I have always done 300 gms at a time. I add the 8 quarters to the load. Looking now to use solid nylon balls this go. Quarters are hard to find back from the spent material.

300 gms in zip lock frose. Crack open the baggie a bit, crunch by hand to break up nugs and dump in tumbler

Aged flower is what i use. (Last years crop) could age the kif too im thinking. But what Frenchy says above maybe press it and let it age in the brick and consume the plant material???

Different tumble times fo 300 gms sample 40 min tumble return 126 gm etc
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I think pressing in my press 80 gms at a time thinner is better and time to cure

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I knew one u dudes added quarters ! Lmao

 

[Moshmen]

I love watching these videos of hash production from traditional regions, I think this is Afghanistan. Amazing to see the sheer volume of plant material they work with, but also the different steps they take to get the resin clean. The final cleaning step here they use 2 large steel blades swept through the kief repeatedly to collect pure trichomes.

I know right these guys produce amazing product with no technology! The original concentrate

 

[smoke]

@smoke do you clean the kief at all using static or anything? Or just press what comes out of the tumbler?

A neat method I saw in a video from I think Morocco, was they keep the screened kief really cold, and then in from of a window they slowly pour it out of a bowl onto the floor, the trichomes are heavier and fall straight down while the stems and plant matter blow a foot or so away. Also saw a technique using nitrile gloves that seems fairly simple.

I don't clean any further, it's all personal or to give away. Im the type that only gets stoned once a day but smoke all day

 

[Dirtbag]

I have seen the glove thing but don't remember the details of which glove is right.
Dust in the wind is a strange but familiar tune. Make sense also.
Man, I have a hard time accepting tossing any of it.
With no game I think it comes down to spin speed and micron. It will be freezing for me where it all happens so bonus.
Like growing and curing [ which I also think merits discussion] I think a slower approach may work better.

Un-powdered Nitrile gloves are the ones you'd want for static cleaning.
And yeah I hear you about tossing anything, but you wouldn't really have to waste it, you could iso wash anything left after the static cleaning, along with the plant matter.

 

[Moshmen]

Un-powdered Nitrile gloves are the ones you'd want for static cleaning.
And yeah I hear you about tossing anything, but you wouldn't really have to waste it, you could iso wash anything left after the static cleaning, along with the plant matter.

Exactly what we have here only I use everclear - I waste nothing

 

[HoodaThunkit]

I do believe NS is onto something with the octagon shaped drum but yeah they done went loco on that price!
I'd bet with my 3D printer I could build the parts needed to go octagon.

I'm kinda digging this one if I had to buy again though

Amazon.com

Also try using "pollen" instead if kief in google searches and it will yield more results. And in a strange twist, mine was made in Taiwan and outside the box they labeled it seed separator I guess for legal and customs.
But yeah, I'd rather have something come from Taiwan than fucking France. A tumbler made in France would probably surrender way too much in yield

I think a reasonably easy modification to the drum could increase the number of times the material rolls per revolution of the drum.

Install some 3/4" x 2" poplar staves inside the drum, long axis parallel. The staves will act as paddles (think front loading washer), turning the material once per paddle.

Maybe?

 

[steamroller]

I think a reasonably easy modification to the drum could increase the number of times the material rolls per revolution of the drum.

Install some 3/4" x 2" poplar staves inside the drum, long axis parallel. The staves will act as paddles (think front loading washer), turning the material once per paddle.

Maybe?

I like the way you think~!
Nice first post.
Thanks~!

 

[smoke]

I think a reasonably easy modification to the drum could increase the number of times the material rolls per revolution of the drum.

Install some 3/4" x 2" poplar staves inside the drum, long axis parallel. The staves will act as paddles (think front loading washer), turning the material once per paddle.

Maybe?

I think that if the was more than one paddle the material be falling onto the paddle rather than the screen. Maybe

 

[HoodaThunkit]

I think that if the was more than one paddle the material be falling onto the paddle rather than the screen. Maybe

Yeah, I didn't pay much attention to the diameter of the drum. Narrower staves, perhaps? Like 1.23"?

 

[steamroller]

My drum has 4 tension rods going through it.
IMO they should disrupt a constant roll and create a small bounce?

Press arrived so whenever I get time I am all ready to go.
Got some experimenting to do~!

 

[Stoneyluv]

My drum has 4 tension rods going through it.
IMO they should disrupt a constant roll and create a small bounce?

Press arrived so whenever I get time I am all ready to go.
Got some experimenting to do~!

i was going to say something about this before and your post reminded me, i agree totally on having fins or flippers inside. i wish i would have made longer ones in mine..



i think it's important for the material to be lifted inside the drum and dropped onto the screen versus just rolling around like you say. i also feel it should be an odd number of flippers so the material never falls onto another flipper and always hits bare screen.

when i get the speed just right i can see and hear the material getting dropped and bouncing off the bottom of the drum.

 

[steamroller]

What about placing a mold like this in the heated rosin press?
Pressure and heat....

 

[steamroller]

Played a little this morning.
Practicing with old stuff from last year.

Very easy to gather the dust by simply lifting unit off bottom plate.
Super solid construction. The top that holds the barrel is one-piece solid aluminum.
License plate shows this is not a huge unit.
I like it~!

 

[smoke]

Practicing with old stuff from last year.

The old stuff is what I want to use. The flower im wanting to tumble was harvested oct 2022. Waiting on colder weather

 

[smoke]

Here's one of the first bricks i pressed (only happened once) i think that bubble occurred because of moisture in the kif

 

[steamroller]

The old stuff is what I want to use. The flower im wanting to tumble was harvested oct 2022. Waiting on colder weather

While we may get to 50 today and tomorrow it is all downhill after that.
My shop is about 35f since it is closed up 99.9% of the time.
I am going to process all my older bud eventually.
None of it appealed to me from the start. Just being picky and being able to be picky I know I won't smoke it in flower forum.

 

[smoke]

While we may get to 50 today and tomorrow it is all downhill after that.
My shop is about 35f since it is closed up 99.9% of the time.
I am going to process all my older bud eventually.
None of it appealed to me from the start. Just being picky and being able to be picky I know I won't smoke it in flower forum.

Weather here suits me just fine. Suppose to be 55 on Tuesday last year the high was 0 and low -17

 

[LJFarming]

You guys seem to be doing well. Im definitely not saying my way is best but an industrial Chinese Flour sifter for a bakery is what I have always used.

I buy a block of dry ice for less than $20 and load it in the top chamber then frozen trim in the second fine mesh chamber and shake until the sifter isn’t producing. It probably only takes 60ish % off the trim potentially because of my impatience but then all the trim gets submerged in 99.9% ISO to make tincture for myself and older friends.

Sidasu Automatic Powder Sifter Machine 12 Mesh 80 Mesh Automatic Sieve Shaker Vibrating Machine 110V Stainless Steel Sieve Shaker Machine with 2 Screens, Sieve Shaker Machine for Flour Powders https://a.co/d/2WnvDHR

I will post a video next month after I chop if and trim everything if anyone is interested.

Peace

 

[LJFarming]

Is kief worth more than it's equivalent weight in flower?

Definitely not in Comifornia!!

 

[smoke]

Definitely not in Comifornia!!

When i was researching i rember vibrating was a more efficient way to remove the heads as apposed to tumbling. Ive never tried it with dry ice

 

[smoke]

How to make dry sift

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[smoke]

I don't coat the aluminum with grape seed oil and i don't cool it in ice, i just let it sit and cool.

 

[Rootsruler]

Dat's a lotta keef!!

 

[smoke]

Dat's a lotta keef!!

4 lbs tumbled for 15 minutes 300 gms

 

[stonemason]

4 lbs tumbled for 15 minutes 300 gms