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Barney's Mimosa x Orange Punch........

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I actually saved my boxes to the Gavita's, thinking I would sell them after 2 years and move on to something newer (and better).......... but it looks like you'll have to pry them from my dead, cold hands.......lol

You can also try www.used420grow.com or www.aaronequipment.com for used stuff................
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I saved mine in case it sh@t itself 😆.different light but.its very close to the Gavita in diode count..it’s a better light 🤪.
 
It’s quite expensive here bout 1800…in Europe it’s about 840 eu..Englands bout the same..

it’s the lumatek Zeus pro 2.7 umol/j ppfd 1620 umol/s .5 yr warranty.rated at 60.000 hrs Life span.
lumled and osram diodes…I can’t fault it.Id like to see some veterans run this light to see what there maximum potential is.i haven’t ran any real heavy yielding strains yet or making the most out of my room.I think they are under rated.
photontek is the sister company in the US.
I’ve seen people mention in threads the Gavita is outdated..if that’s the case I’d like to see your yield with an new up to date Gavita would b.im like well if it ain’t Broken why fix it.(build new ones)
 
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I would have to think the Gavita is outdated at this point, being 3 years past when it was first produced......... but again, how much more can I possibly produce in my space? 10% or 15%, I just don’t see how it could be much more than that. 100 oz a crop is what I can use every crop, more than that just sits here for an extended period of time. At this point, it’s about sturdiness and reliability for me as much as light production.
 
So, i looked up the newer Gavita, the Gavita Pro RS 2400e LED for about $1225 each at most places. Availability appears to be limited at this time, but still, I see it everywhere i looked. No doubt the specs are better than what i have currently and it's foldable too. Maybe I'll consider after my next big hit at the casino or sportsbook.

Still, how much more yield can i squeeze out of my room? I also think Gavita played with the light spectrum a bit too, and i'll have to research if it improves on the resin content and quality. That could be a game changer if so.........
 
I also see it needs a newer controller than what i already own......but it has a new neat feature. i never did hook up the controller anyway, but.........

  • Spray feature dims lights to help protect against crop burn during spray applications
 
Looked at the sites you recommended but didn't see any Gavitas. I'll keep tabs and see if one shows up. Lots of HPS hoods.......
 
I looked and didn't see any either...........check Ebay, I remember seeing some there in the past. Where do you live, maybe I'll sell you mine (kidding).

Regarding the new Gavita's- I also see they use 800 watts vs. 645 watts with what I have...........but that extra 155 watts surely makes a difference in performance, but I don't want/need more heat in there either.

I did a rough calculation and figured I've used them about 16,000 hours in the 3 years I've had them. I would guess they would surely last at least 24,000 if not more anyway- I think thats the number I was quoted by Gavita customer service.
 
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I looked and didn't see any either...........check Ebay, I remember seeing some there in the past. Where do you live, maybe I'll sell you mine (kidding).

Regarding the new Gavita's- I also see they use 800 watts vs. 645 watts with what I have...........but that extra 155 watts surely makes a difference in performance, but I don't want/need more heat in there either.

I did a rough calculation and figured I've used them about 16,000 hours in the 3 years I've had them. I would guess they would surely last at least 24,000 if not more anyway- I think thats the number I was quoted by Gavita customer service.
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Will do. Thanks for the guidance.

While I have the luxury of a climate controlled lung room, more heat in the tent is not welcome especially with the dehu pumping hot air into the lung room as I'm in my final weeks. I've been targeting 30w sq/ft as my lighting goal. I have a 5 x 5 so 25 sq/ft = 750w but I think the added heat is just going to make it that much harder to keep the tent within range without turning the house into a deep freeze so the Gavita wattage, while not quite hitting my target, should give me plenty of PPFD over the entire canopy.

I have two 275w COB's but they just don't get the coverage I want as I like doing wall to wall scrogs so bar style lighting is where I want to go with it hence the desire for a Gavita or Medic Grow. They're certainly up to the task of producing the PPFD but the drop off is too much for me to get full coverage at an acceptable light level for the plants that aren't directly under the boards.
 
I've also been thinking more about these Solarsystems UV-B's i have hanging above the led's........

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And have been reading the company's recommendations on how to utilize them. They are made for a 4 x 4 room which is perfect, and are meant to be hung 3 ft. above the canopy for maximum coverage. Here's what they have to say-

1. Use last 2-3 weeks of flowering
2. 2-6 hours a day
3. Best to use in the middle of the flowering period
4. Place 3 feet above the canopy

I have used these fixtures on and off over the last 1-2 years, but normally only the last week and for 1/2 hour a day when I remember. This time I plan on making a more serious effort.
 
The Runtz x Layer Cake was my last strain i did............it turned out well. Starts with a sativa rush, end with a mellow indica buzz. Smell and taste were incredible.

I grow in Promix.......I have 3 years of Gavita grows on RIU and the Farm if you search for them.
 
i banned from there farm just for coming in here . Il look up or riu. .

just wanted to know your tips.
do you use and microbes?
You veg 4-5 weeks i see.
Ph 6.3
ive jus gone to soil for first time after five years in coco
 
No microbes but myco's (fungus) in the Promix.

Yes, 4-5 weeks veg depending on the strain and height (or expected height).

pH always 6.3, but anywhere between 6.2-6.4 SHOULD be fine. I've done tons of work on this, 6.3 works best for me.

Most of my grows at RIU are under HPS. This was my last documented LED grow there:

TonyGreen's Tortured Beans "Bubble Head" meets the Gavita LED's............

Breeders description: Description Bubblehead (Headbanger x Gorilla Bubble Bx5) 10 Feminized seed Flowering time: 10-11 weeks One of Karma’s finest and most popular creations, Headbanger (Karma Sour Diesel clone x Biker Kush) is one of the best Sativa dominate flowers on the planet. She features...
www.rollitup.org
 
An interesting study how UV-B can control/kill off spider mites and eggs......

link.springer.com

Biological impact of ultraviolet-B radiation on spider mites and its application in integrated pest management - Applied Entomology and Zoology

Many plant-dwelling mites reside on lower leaf surfaces. The biological impact of solar ultraviolet-B (UV-B) radiation on spider mites has been demonstrated over the last decade. Due to the serious problem of acaricide resistance in spider mites, the development of alternative control methods...
link.springer.com link.springer.com
 
I've been giving the room about 10 minutes of UV-B a day, just starting to get them used to it a bit. Consider outdoor plants, that get a small blast of UV-B daily from the sun daily from veg- it's makes them "hardier" with tougher leaves. Here's my tentative daily schedule for UV-

Week 6 10 minutes rising to 20 minutes by the end of the first week
Week 7 20 minutes rising to 30 minutes daily
Week 8 1 hour daily
Week 9 2 hours daily until harvest (days 60-65 depending)

Sativa's have an easier time with UV-B, as they get bigger doses near the equator and grow used to it. Indica's, although often grown in mountains around the world, have to be watched for any negative effects. If so, I'll have to cut back or slow down a bit.
 
Ah.is that the tacoeing I’m seeing from the uv..I don’t think I’ve seen you grow bigger buds than these since you was under hps..are these leaning more to sativa or those plants looking like they are fox tailing right at the top..they are sure stacking like crazy .these might take longer to dry.soo much bud around the main stem…I’m a little jelly 😆
 
Not much tacoing at this point, but i've eased off the cal/mag a bit most of the way so you maybe seeing that.

These are 65/35 indica over sativa but numerous reports have the high leaning to the sativa side. Don't know what to expect at this point. i just know a lot of people keep it in their garden after growing it which means a lot to me.

i don't really see any affects from the uv-b yet, but that will come near the end when it's on more........
 
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The uvb just stresses them to produce more trichomes sshz?
 
Yes, resin production is a defense mechanism. The resin helps block the UV rays from damaging the leaves. Most agree there will be more resin if uv-b or a is used, although some feel the quality of the resin is reduced. Plants also use resin to fight off insects too.

Day 45 today, here's both sides before lights out. Between 15 and 18 days left i'm guessing.

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i'm seeing some people take this strain to 10 weeks on Growdiaries, so i may have underestimated the flowering period.............it's somewhat doubtful it will be done in 13-16 days (60-63 total). Or maybe some will be finished
and other not.
 
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Yes, resin production is a defense mechanism. The resin helps block the UV rays from damaging the leaves. Most agree there will be more resin if uv-b or a is used, although some feel the quality of the resin is reduced. Plants also use resin to fight off insects too.

Day 45 today, here's both sides before lights out. Between 15 and 18 days left i'm guessing.

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Fuck 😍😍😍
 
i'm still not sure exactly how far i have to go......but there's some serious weight in here. These are dense and hard, which should also make an impact on the final weight of the room. 100 oz room easily..........

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How’s the humidity going.i bet the dehueys collecting heaps.

they are soo big cause your peeing on them 😂
 
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I’m running it at 60-65%, but last 2 weeks I’ll put it at 40-45% and try to suck out every oz of moisture I can. Dryness helps produce resin, another item resin does- it helps plants maintain moisture in dry conditions. So the dryer it is, the more resin is produced.

Only problem is, I’ll have to water more as it dries the pots quicker.
 
Oh yeah, 7 weeks done flowering today. Between 2-3 left, I don’t see it going any longer than that. I’m starting to see some browning up of buds, just the very beginning though.
 
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I’m running it at 60-65%, but last 2 weeks I’ll put it at 40-45% and try to suck out every oz of moisture I can. Dryness helps produce resin, another item resin does- it helps plants maintain moisture in dry conditions. So the dryer it is, the more resin is produced.

Only problem is, I’ll have to water more as it dries the pots quicker.
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That’s nice to know..I’d b scared shitless with that high a rh.one thing ,no one has seen the middle of your room with dehuey and the fan in action.I wouldn’t mind a vid 😁
 
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Hoping to see the room starting browning up more............most of the pistols have receded back into the bud. 13 days til 9 weeks finished, gonna be close. i'm going to start the uv-b a 1/2 hour a day now, and be up to 1 hour by the weekend.

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Such a sick strain man. You really did what I hoped to do with mine with it. I found it to have straigh notes of Champagne when rub the trichs. Was my favorite strain to grow. Cheers to hopin you finish off flawlessly
 
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Thanks Coco, can i ask how long you let yours flower for?
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The 1st time from bean I believe was 9-10 weeks but the clone of it I accidentally sent into reveg and it took damn near 13 weeks and was crap because was super low THC all cause of me. Was my worst grow but but my fave strain
 
Clones normally takes less flowering time anyway, as they take on the mothers age along with their own ........the older the plant, the quicker it flowers. When I used to grow from clones, it would take 7-10 days off the normal flowering time. I'm seeing people take these between 60-70 days, and everywhere in between. My plan is to take them to 63 days, then quick dry a small bud in the food dehydrator and 4-5 hours later, I'll get a decent smoking assessment along with a view of the resin coloring. A week here or there doesn't matter, I want these to be top notch. Going from 63 to 70 days would probably also give me 10% more weight.
 
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